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Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18926 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 09:41 am: |
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Redclaw777: Brother, before start of this match, every Bookmaker, Critic, Former Players, Experts and Tennis fans alike predicted only one outcome - A Djokovic Win. Even the staunchest of Nishi supporters expected him to only give a good fight. There was a reason to this. Irrespective of how Nishi played, people knew that Djokovic at his very best is simply unstoppable. In my humble opinion, Only a man whose name ended with Federer could possibly stop the best of Djokovic. He is that good.
This is quite common kadaa annai, recently Zim beaten Australia in one day, who would have thought that?? Its obvious for every one to except favorite to win it in sports |
   
Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18925 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 09:39 am: |
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Vejo:Rafa was lucky in Madrid masters that Nishikori resigned...Toni even said that it was Nishikori's match & not Rafa's..
Actually Rafa was lucky in this year Australian Open to beat Nishi...That was an awesome match and Rafa just scraped through...Fair to say Nishi choked on key points then, he was up in almost every set and couldnt close out |
   
Jalsa
Megastar Username: Jalsa
Post Number: 25823 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 47.20.5.96
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 09:19 am: |
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Redclaw777:However, oflate, he is not being at his best and added to that his mental lapses in big matches are what are costing him more GS. I was watching his matches and the way he played upto Semis and the Semis itself were different. Nishi was the better player on the day and he won. That was it.
That's exactly it!!! I've told this in the other two threads, it's sad to see Novak have these lapses even after winning 7 slams!!! That's really unacceptable! Not just that, in the whole match, there were only couple of his trademark shots. Clearly something is wrong with him! Nishi was making superb shots, which previously novak used to make, and made Novak always on the defensive. Novak was trying to ride it out with defense and wear out his opponent. He can't win matches like that. He doesn't need to change his game drastically like serve and volley (from his coach becker), he just needs to be on the offensive with his ol' shots. Semis ki ravadamey goppa Novak asalu. He came to semis because murray was being murray (as you said). Novak had no answer to murray's range of shots! |
   
Redclaw777
Comedian Username: Redclaw777
Post Number: 1671 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.205.37.57
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 08:34 am: |
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Vejo:
Brother, before start of this match, every Bookmaker, Critic, Former Players, Experts and Tennis fans alike predicted only one outcome - A Djokovic Win. Even the staunchest of Nishi supporters expected him to only give a good fight. There was a reason to this. Irrespective of how Nishi played, people knew that Djokovic at his very best is simply unstoppable. In my humble opinion, Only a man whose name ended with Federer could possibly stop the best of Djokovic. He is that good. However, oflate, he is not being at his best and added to that his mental lapses in big matches are what are costing him more GS. I was watching his matches and the way he played upto Semis and the Semis itself were different. Nishi was the better player on the day and he won. That was it. Just to reiterate what I've been saying, below is the prediction from Bleacher Report on the Men's Final: "This is something I never thought I'd say, but here it goes: I'm picking Marin Cilic to win the U.S. Open this year over Kei Nishikori. Nishikori has had a phenomenal tournament and will put up a fight, but it's hard to look past the fact that he dealt with an incredibly off Novak Djokovic in the semis. Cilic, meanwhile, didn't need much help at all from Roger Federer. Cilic's form in the semifinal was reminiscent of another surprise U.S. Open winner—Juan Martin del Potro back in 2009. With the booming forehand, powerful serve and surprisingly great court coverage and movement for a tall guy, the 6'6" Cilic is a nearly impossible guy to handle when he's playing his best. So I'm picking Cilic in four sets." |
   
Redclaw777
Comedian Username: Redclaw777
Post Number: 1670 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.205.37.57
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 08:23 am: |
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Kadapafan:Annai I dont think this is the case, even during yesterdays match this match was discussed by commentators and they said during that run Joker lost only 2 matches with full health
Bro...Excerpts from Official ATP World Tour Website on the 2011 Basel match: "The Serb was hampered by a shoulder injury that he received treatment for during the match. He is hopeful that he will be able to play in Paris next week, after contesting his first tournament since defeating Rafael Nadal in the US Open final." Excerpts from BBC Sport: "The world number one, who was nursing a shoulder injury, lost 2-6 7-6 (7-4) 6-0 to the world number 32. The top seed received treatment for his shoulder problem early in the match and needed another injury timeout at the start of the final set. After the match he admitted his shoulder had been troubling him all week, but said he still expected to play in the Paris Masters, starting on Monday." Not that this takes away anything from Nishi, but Djoko was having problems of his own. |
   
Vejo
Junior Artist Username: Vejo
Post Number: 257 Registered: 10-2013 Posted From: 67.234.86.124
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 08:10 am: |
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highly biased analysis..you might not have intended to do it but your fanism towards djoko was shown instead of analysis.. athletes always have patterns & whne these patterns become succesful they move to the top...be it Fed or Rafa or Nole.. Fed has certain patterns and Rafa broke them..so he used to win against Fed...but Fed never did anything to change significantly... Rafa used to win against Nole a lot in the beginning but NOle changed his patterns succesfully and all of a sudden in 2011 we all felt Rafa was playing below par..when infact Rafa was playing tennis of his life...Nole changed patterns adn Rafa who is used to his succesful patterns didnt have an answer until he took time off and changed his patterns (dow the line backhand ni use cheyatam, etc.) the same goes here...Nole was playing his best tennis...remember he is world No.1 & he is ambitious...he is always confident of himself & aggressive stroke maker....there is no way he lets his confidence drop....unless Nishikori identified patterns and put him ina position where Nole doesnot have any answers and thats what precisely Nishikori did... Rafa was lucky in Madrid masters that Nishikori resigned...Toni even said that it was Nishikori's match & not Rafa's.. Credit should be givent o Nishikori..simply put he outplayed Nole.. this is common in sports...we have to see how Nole responds in the future matches.. |
   
Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18924 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 05:16 am: |
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Filmbuff:Though i want Nishikori to win, this is for Cilic to lose. Cilic in straight sets. His play in the semis was truly remarkable.
Dont agree, Nishi had beaten all kinds of players to come to this stage...Strong Server in Raonic, Aggressive shot maker and solid back hander in Waw and best returner in Joker... Cilic is serving well, but he is not a Raonic... On other hand Cilic had beaten Birdie who was way far from any of his best, Fed who has come from a 5 setter and was not looking in his best at all.. If not for fitness Nishi should do it easily... With every opponent Nishi was seen as an underdog, bet it Raonic, or Waw or Joker and he surprised every one, I am sure he would in Finals as well.. Fed vachinaa kottevaadu but Fed would have given strong fight with his experience, crowd backing etc.., Cilic should be eaten for breakfast by Nishi |
   
Filmbuff
Side Hero Username: Filmbuff
Post Number: 5281 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.212.127.110
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 05:09 am: |
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Though i want Nishikori to win, this is for Cilic to lose. Cilic in straight sets. His play in the semis was truly remarkable. |
   
Filmbuff
Side Hero Username: Filmbuff
Post Number: 5280 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 117.212.127.110
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 05:08 am: |
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Redclaw777:
Good write up bro...Cilic is the kind of player Federer would have had for breakfast in his prime. But Cilic is the kind of player who is tough to get a grip off - players like Safin, Del Potro who once in a decade, belt the ball like it is going out of fashion. Federer did not have an iota of chance yesterday. In fact midway through the first set i realised that this was a different breed of animal that Fed was dealing with. Even in his presser Fed was all praise for Cilic. Djoker - i expected so much from him from the hard courts after the Wimby glory but he has belied all hopes. With Nadal out of action in the second half, Murray being Murray, Federer being 33 etc, this was the best chance to add to his GS kitty. But his passive play let him down, you have to throw the dice once in a while, go for the ropes, change tactics...there was nothing of that from Djoker yesterday. Atleast Fed was trying - one can't fault that. He was chip and charging, tried rallying, standing a lot behind the baseline etc. but Cilic was in a different planet. I do wish that this is not a false dawn and we see the next gen of players bursting out of the woodworks. They are not worried about the aura of the Big 3 anymore which is half the battle won and all of these guys are playing a good aggressive game unlike the defensive guns of Djoker and Nadal. |
   
Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18923 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 04:46 am: |
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Seemabidda:Finals prediction pettandi both Men and women.. alagey number of sets..
Nishi in 4 sets Woz in 3 sets (3 sets guarantee anukuntunna irrespective of who wins) Doubles Brian brothers would lose ani prediction |
   
Seemabidda
Comedian Username: Seemabidda
Post Number: 1559 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 124.184.128.245
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 04:44 am: |
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Kadapafan:
Finals prediction pettandi both Men and women.. alagey number of sets.. |
   
Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18922 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 04:32 am: |
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Redclaw777:The reason why I am saying that Djoko played bad is the passive play he had, waiting for Nishi to make mistakes instead of playing offensive. All the commentators unanimously agreed that he was not playing at the level of previous matches except for the 2nd set. I basically think he has lost his temperament for big matches. Nishi played excellent no doubt, but both of them werent on the same level today.
This is expecting too much of a player to be and play same in every match... I think match was decided in 3rd sets 3rd game when Nishi held the serve by playing a 11 mins or so marathon game, generally those kind of games define confidence of players... Joker gave 100% in first 3 sets but Nishi was better, 4th set first game lo he looked disinterested for some reason... |
   
Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18921 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 04:30 am: |
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Redclaw777:In 2011, the reason Joker lost that match from middle up was he had an injury and hence kinda gave up.
Annai I dont think this is the case, even during yesterdays match this match was discussed by commentators and they said during that run Joker lost only 2 matches with full health - one is this and other is with Fed, and rest are due to injuries and in World tour finals in some irrelevant matches... |
   
Redclaw777
Comedian Username: Redclaw777
Post Number: 1669 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.55.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 02:51 am: |
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Kadapafan:
In 2011, the reason Joker lost that match from middle up was he had an injury and hence kinda gave up. The reason why I am saying that Djoko played bad is the passive play he had, waiting for Nishi to make mistakes instead of playing offensive. All the commentators unanimously agreed that he was not playing at the level of previous matches except for the 2nd set. I basically think he has lost his temperament for big matches. Nishi played excellent no doubt, but both of them werent on the same level today. |
   
Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18917 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 02:25 am: |
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I didnt see any chance for Fed yesterday even before the match, Cilic is playing well, and Fed struggled to beat Monfils... |
   
Kadapafan
Hero Username: Kadapafan
Post Number: 18916 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 90.226.210.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 02:23 am: |
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I dont understand this at all...when ever Joker or Fed or Rafa loses people say that they have played pathetic...Not sure if you have watched the match yesterday Nishikori played some stunning shots...Havent seen Cilic match but I dont blame Joker for the loss, as a player you cant play better than opponent all the times... And even when Joker was at his best in 2011 when he was in a stunning run, it was Nishikori who has beaten him in Basel, and with a bagel in last set 6-0 Nishi has all the talent and now with Chang I think he is building temperment and other things which is helping him win... But definitely Joker didnt played pathetic tennis for sure.. |
   
Redclaw777
Comedian Username: Redclaw777
Post Number: 1668 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.206.55.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 02:11 am: |
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First things first! All Djoko and Smooth Babu fans...Randi! Ye Nuyyo Goyyo chooskoni dookudhaam! The US Open was there for the taking and both these Multiple GS champs botched it up! Poor play from Djoko and ordinary play from Fed have given an opportunity of a lifetime to 2 youngsters...As usual, I dont watch Djoko's games but only follow the scores later and watch highlights. So, early morning I was in for a rude shock. Nishikori vs Djokovic: Djokovic played near spotless tennis for almost 2 weeks and out of nowhere plays pathetic tennis on the big day. Sounds familiar? Well, not to his fans! But first abt Kei Nishikori...Exactly 2 days back I predicted we were seeing the making of a future GS champ and said u first heard it here....but little did I know that the Pocket Rocket from Japan wud have the legs for another 4 setter after 2 marathons and that too he wud do it against my fav Djoko in this Semis. His talent was never in doubt, especially after I saw him run Rafa Nadal liked a ragged doll for a set and a half before he withdrew due to injury in a Masters tournament early in the year. Everyone who watched the match knew who won tht day. This guy is creaming screamers of shots off both the wings and his retrieval skills are second to none. He has a potent serve and takes the ball early hence hitting the ball much faster for his size. At this point, Nishikori hardly has any weakness. He is a mini Djoko. He knew he had to go on all out attack to avoid lengthy baseline raliies and 5 setters against Nole and he did that superbly. Unfazed by his great opponent and occasion, he beat Novak at his very own game. Djokovic simply played sad tennis. When Djokovic plays well, no one touches him (remember 2011?). He is the perfect tennis player and li'l Nishi for all his talent wudnt have touched him. But as is with Djoko in the past 2 years, he simply isnt rising upto the occasion in Big matches. Except for the fact that he won a Wimbledon in between, he has simply become a 'Choker' instead of Djoker! One become a great player wen they play Big on the biggest stages...that is how Sampras, Federer and Nadal did it. That is how one builds an aura around them. Not by letting the world know you are capable of screwing it up in your head in Big matches. My guy needs a Psychiatrist! : ( Cilic vs Federer: What do you do when a Big Serving guy plays lights out Tennis on a Big day? You just stand back and admire. Marin Cilic is playing the Tennis of his life. Serving great, blasting power bombs off both wings and showing nerves of steel against the greatest. Berdych can watch this guy and hang himself. This is how a Big guy should play. The most scary part is Cilic is making it look so unbelievably effortless that no one bothered abt him till his match against Fed. And then, he blasts the great man out of the court....jst like that. Even Fed who knew and was motivated tht US Open was his to lose after Novak's exit, simply cudnt do anything. For all of Fed's skills, I believe he was shown his age today by the big hitting guy who didnt put a foot wrong. Fed didnt play badly but he didnt play special either to disrupt Cilic's power game. One more opportunity passes by and potentially this was his greatest. Future : The Big 4 are no longer invincible any more. First of all, none of them are playing at their very best and More & more young guns are believing that they can take them down on the grandest stages. While they shall still win Grandslams, we are now gonna witness a lot more new GS champs. So, its gonna be even more difficult for Fed to add to his tally and pull away, Nadal's chase of 17 looks even more doubtful and Novak's quest to reach 10 GS and complete his closet with French looks much more complicated. Murray doesnt even know where he belongs at present. US '14 Champ Prediction: As much as I want Nishikori to win, for all his talent, I dont think he shall be able to get those legs running in the final. His fitness might beat him down after so many marathons. Cilic is playing monstrous Tennis and shall not give many break chances for Nishi which means this might go all the way which is bad news for Kei. Marin Cilic in 4. P.S. Not that ppl didn't know what happened, jst wanted to vent out my frustration on these upsets... |
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