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Wellsfargo
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Mrhyderabad:

If it is just one app then you should consider publishing it on Citrix XenApp or VMware and thin app combo... so that you don't have to provide entire VM to users. You can just publish and stream individual app to users.




Interesting idea. Naakenduko ee idea raledu. Probably I can do this.
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Bushu:

Interesting. Your email ID?




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If it is just one app then you should consider publishing it on Citrix XenApp or VMware and thin app combo... so that you don't have to provide entire VM to users. You can just publish and stream individual app to users.

1/3rd cost compared to providing dedicated VM.

I only read OP. Pls ignore if I got the requirement wrong.
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Wellsfargo:




Interesting. Your email ID?
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@wellsfargo.

when I was working with an MNC as a system admin, our client (one england based airways) was mainly focused on converting their entire server farm to virtual (windows, esx). out of some thirteen hundred servers, we made migration preparations for five hundred servers. later I left that job and I heard that mnc lost the contract.

so virtualization is big and imperative. you can plan accordingly !
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Wellsfargo:


super annai!! mee laanti vallani rare ga choostha vuntam!!
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Rajin:

Sharepoint ki vundaa? Vunte cheppind push cheyyichu if anyone lokking for custom wf
maa inbuilt wF worst
So max third party or custom built using .net Use chestham




Pettocchu sharepoint ki, there is no technical hurdle. aa MS gaadu sharepoint lo web services default gaa open cheyyadu. Even IT vallaki kooda cheppadu ela open cheyyalo. so companies usually go and depend upon their inbuilt work flow or go for expensive sharepoint experts..

Alfresco(a proper open source counter part of sharepoint) ki proper gaa integrate ayyindi maa system. Maa health care customer deggara ide undi
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Wellsfargo:

avunaa.. support vallaki, IT vallaki sukham gaa untadannai VM aithe.. servers VMs pedithe.. software upgrade etc aithe almost 0 downtime tho cheyyocchu...




I am a backend systems guy...so may be naa area lo vadatha vundaka povachu! may be meeru cheppe areas lo baaga vadatha vundochu but I have no idea!!

only security kosam annattu citrix windows VM vadevallam wal-mart lo.....but from there we used to connect to our other servers.....mostly offshre ki VM desktops set chesthunnaru most of teh companies....


suppose databases ithe nenu choodaledu.....inka apps like sharepoint kooda choodaledu....
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Saint:

coming to prod servers/unix machines/DBs/applications/ etc, I never came across any VM




avunaa.. support vallaki, IT vallaki sukham gaa untadannai VM aithe.. servers VMs pedithe.. software upgrade etc aithe almost 0 downtime tho cheyyocchu...
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Wellsfargo:



Sharepoint ki vundaa? Vunte cheppind push cheyyichu if anyone lokking for custom wf
maa inbuilt wF worst
So max third party or custom built using .net Use chestham
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Wellsfargo:

Marketing and packaging meeda work chestunnam currently.. choodali ekkadiki pothado..




do u have good contacts in HR community? otherwise how r u planning to take ur product to companies?
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product emiti anedhi chepthe tappa decide cheyyalemu..!

desktop based application aa?

I worked in many companies! only in one company, I used Virtual machine as my desktop! taht too its prebuilt image.


coming to prod servers/unix machines/DBs/applications/ etc, I never came across any VM
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Bushu:

what is the product, if you dont mind?




It is a automated workflow system which integrates easily into any kind of web services and also has pre made hooks into SAP, Oracle Apps, Sales Force etc. We have also integrated Kettle ETL, Jasper Reports and Saiku Analytics.

It all started as a Health care work flow system but two months ago the health care customer made us do lot of modifications. we made it generic enough such that it can be applied to any industry. Marketing and packaging meeda work chestunnam currently.. choodali ekkadiki pothado..
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Zamindar:

yah china vishyam mari ayanki telse vuntundi le paddavadu..let him reply




Nenu pedda vaadini kaadu le. edo normal DB person ni. Monna ee madhya ne junior artist nundi side hero ayya DB lo..

Anyways to answer your question, my application can work on Ubuntu or centOS. I will strip out the unnecessary parts of these OS and distribute my application. so RedHat EWS kaani, windows server kaani akkarledu licensing ki.

so my product cost will not increase due to OS licensing. Anyways aa Amazon Image chinnadi cheyyadaniki ee excercise already chesanu so that the trial users of my system can fit into their free tier usage.
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Swarna_andhra:



Ee appplications annai, sharepoint ayithe on premise mostly and some cloud VM choodaledu
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These days every where VM even in prod. Exception is DB. Oracle vaadu support cheyayadu vm ante. So all the best for ur application. It can rock.
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Wellsfargo:




what is the product, if you dont mind?
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Kumar_s:

Same doubt vachindhi naaku kuda..how will you distribute OS..


yah china vishyam mari ayanki telse vuntundi le paddavadu..let him reply
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Zamindar:

in this case you have to also consider VM license and operating system license who is going to bare this you or your customer ...



Same doubt vachindhi naaku kuda..how will you distribute OS..
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antha virtual ye... physical server chusi chala rojulu ayyindi
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these days most of the applications are installed on VMs only till this part is ok

but this idea is definetly new providing with product installed on VM image , in this case you have to also consider VM license and operating system license who is going to bare this you or your customer ...

if it is you how it will be extra cost barden on your product , if it your customer how can you sell the product without license dosent look impressive for the highend customers.

Please ignore if this appears to be a stupid for your thread or if you hate discussing with lowlevel people on product selling.
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Thanks Guys for your suggestions...
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Phoenix:

on paper vm is same as physical but in reality on works on shared memory and blah blah..



correct same applies to cloud...
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Wellsfargo:

Maa company lo 100% enterprises resources VM meeda ne..



avunaaa ?nenu choosinavi max onpremise and now cloud, on cloud full functionality support cheyyavau max products
so mee product ee target areas ni cover cheyandi, cloud and VM lo major functionality cover chesthu
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Wellsfargo:


On premise installation production lo VM enduku vada koodadu. Resources as needed scale chesukovacchu kada. Maa company lo 100% enterprises resources VM meeda ne..




Our applications run today mostly on VMs
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Physical is preferred by 99% of product customers i worked on...on paper vm is same as physical but in reality on works on shared memory and blah blah..
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Rajin:

as a final product/software evaraina VM lo enduku pettukuntaar ...cloud based t or on premise install chestharu...did i miss anything?




On premise installation production lo VM enduku vada koodadu. Resources as needed scale chesukovacchu kada. Maa company lo 100% enterprises resources VM meeda ne..
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development,customisations kosam VM vadatharu kaani
as a final product/software evaraina VM lo enduku pettukuntaar ...cloud based t or on premise install chestharu...did i miss anything?
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Guys, I am about to release my product into the market from my start up. It is an enterprise product. I am releasing it as a SaaS model for businesses which don't mind having a solution on the cloud. I am also releasing a AMI (amazon machine image) for any organization if they want to use it exclusively from AWS.

However majority of organizations may not want to have a third party hosted solution. I don't want to give installers, zips, wars etc as majority of my source code is covered under apache license and I need to do a legal sweep before distributing. In the previous company that I worked for, majority of the enterprise software is deployed on virtual machines. So I am planning on providing a VM image with the OS and the application so that the IT personnel gets the tool up and running in a few minutes on the ESX server.

Does this cover majority of the enterprises or is this a minority?

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