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Royyala_nayudu
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Okahyderabadi:

Yes ade cheptunna if we have to reach china we need to accelerate on steriods , ante next 5 years lo china chesina dantlo atleast 30-50% development chepattali. vallakai landu too much undi manaki ade takkuva population almost more or less same ~ 3-500 mill


Yes.

India has immense potential for growth, China has massive potential to fail because most of the decisions the Govt takes do not take people into the perspective. Two consecutive mistakes by China is what we need for us to surpass them. It is highly unlikely that this will happen.
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Chutiya Henry Kissinger gadu tana oka book lo rastadu 1962 war gurinchi, Mao never wanted to control the territory ... He just wanted to show China's strength to india. Anduke flash attack, Kissinger chutiya says Mao knew in a long term war they would loose, but Nehru gani edhavathanm tho troops pampinchakunda delay cheyadam Mao plan ki additional benfit. I don't think we can ever get back the territory we lost to china.

CCP is making sure they will not go back to electing psychos like mao, instead they listened to leaders like, deng xiaoping. 70's china ipudu mana deggara repeat avtundi. Congress (Mao) ki bonda petti malli tirigi rakunda MODI (Deng Xiaoping) lanti valla Valle deshaniki manchi rojulu


manaki unna most of the territorial problems ki mana "chacha" gare reason. Ayana kooturu atleast 71 lo POK ne teesesukoni unte koddiga better ga undedi, adi kooda cheyale. we are stuck and cannot get any of that back
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Royyala_nayudu:

Existing state + Change = Future State.

Change can be anything from nothing to everything. Matter of National priorities


Yes ade cheptunna if we have to reach china we need to accelerate on steriods , ante next 5 years lo china chesina dantlo atleast 30-50% development chepattali. vallakai landu too much undi manaki ade takkuva population almost more or less same ~ 3-500 mill
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Chutiya Henry Kissinger gadu tana oka book lo rastadu 1962 war gurinchi, Mao never wanted to control the territory ... He just wanted to show China's strength to india. Anduke flash attack, Kissinger chutiya says Mao knew in a long term war they would loose, but Nehru gani edhavathanm tho troops pampinchakunda delay cheyadam Mao plan ki additional benfit. I don't think we can ever get back the territory we lost to china.

CCP is making sure they will not go back to electing psychos like mao, instead they listened to leaders like, deng xiaoping. 70's china ipudu mana deggara repeat avtundi. Congress (Mao) ki bonda petti malli tirigi rakunda MODI (Deng Xiaoping) lanti valla Valle deshaniki manchi rojulu
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Okahyderabadi:

vallu defence wise 20 yrs ahead of us, infrastructure we are no where near, aksai lo networking of roads etc kummesaru, as usual we have kacha roads. It will take herculean efforts to go to that level with this dysfunctional govts we have. Its good to have wishful thoughts but practical ga workout avadu. Tibet lo manamu emi peekalemu, unlike us 371(article) they dont have anything like that, mottam Tibet ni Han ethnic majority tho kummesaru already same happening in other minority areas also. We are better off building better infrastructure in 7 sisters and holding them together and improving things over there. Hopefully MODI will be different than others in this aspect


Existing state + Change = Future State.

Change can be anything from nothing to everything. Matter of National priorities
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Terrific Article.
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Bushu:

if only we had a crystal ball ...


vallu defence wise 20 yrs ahead of us, infrastructure we are no where near, aksai lo networking of roads etc kummesaru, as usual we have kacha roads. It will take herculean efforts to go to that level with this dysfunctional govts we have. Its good to have wishful thoughts but practical ga workout avadu. Tibet lo manamu emi peekalemu, unlike us 371(article) they dont have anything like that, mottam Tibet ni Han ethnic majority tho kummesaru already same happening in other minority areas also. We are better off building better infrastructure in 7 sisters and holding them together and improving things over there. Hopefully MODI will be different than others in this aspect
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Simhapuri_kurrodu:

but china ni gillithe aadu rakkestadu




manam enduku gillutham? vadu inka extra gillakunda insurance plans. tibet, aksai chin ,, ilaa open wounds untayi. thappadhu.
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Bushu:

aksai chin is to beat up china and show the world for what they are. when needed.




annai
ego ki pokunda china tho further godava lekapothe better. weakest enemy ni resound vachetlu debba kottachu, but china ni gillithe aadu rakkestadu
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Okahyderabadi:

manaki Aaa time radu tammudu




if only we had a crystal ball ... :D
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Bushu:

aksai chin is to beat up china and show the world for what they are. when needed.

pok will be accepted when pakistan is broken into 4 or more pieces


manaki Aaa time radu tammudu
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Okahyderabadi:

The sooner we realize that its gone we are better off. Its gone, so is Aksai china, there is no way in the world it will ever come back to us.




aksai chin is to beat up china and show the world for what they are. when needed.

pok will be accepted when pakistan is broken into 4 or more pieces.
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Bushu:

they will never do that. a signal that POK is out of reach.


The sooner we realize that its gone we are better off. Its gone, so is Aksai china, there is no way in the world it will ever come back to us.
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Okahyderabadi:

Kashmiranni trifurcate




they will never do that. a signal that POK is out of reach.
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Okahyderabadi:

Kashmiranni trifurcate chesi valley ni isolate cheste most of the things will be back to normal emo, Amit shah strategy is good.



ya annai..bifurcate chesina ok.

Simhapuri_kurrodu:



goorkhaland etc demands inka ekkuva avutayi, better not do that



indian security drusya ee decision ani undali anthe..
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Okahyderabadi:

Kashmiranni trifurcate chesi valley ni isolate cheste




goorkhaland etc demands inka ekkuva avutayi, better not do that
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Kashmiranni trifurcate chesi valley ni isolate cheste most of the things will be back to normal emo, Amit shah strategy is good.
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somehow outsider investment allow cheste chaalu, once ppl are busy with work they will not care much about other things
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nice:-)


indialo economy grow avvatam malli modhalu avuthe chala vishayalu linelo osthayi..
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the hurriyat are ransom mongers. fat pigs get fed both by the indian and paki govts. and would love to see the kashmir problem simmering forever. If Modi can cut them down, will be a starting point.
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http://www.firstpost.com/politics/the-irrelevance-of-hurriya t-kashmirs-silent-majority-is-cheering-pm-modi-1677649.html


The irrelevance of Hurriyat: Kashmir’s silent majority is cheering PM Modi

Aasha Khosa
New Delhi: The Valley’s silent majority, which does not favour Kashmir becoming part of Pakistan, is quietly cheering the Narendra Modi government's decision to cut the separatist conglomerate — the Hurriyat Conference — to size. The government has made it clear to Pakistan that there would be no further bilateral talks if it fails to disengage with the separatists.
"Who are these Hurriyat people — Pakistan giving them importance is fine but why should New Delhi keep pandering to their whims and fancies," said a former Congress leader from south Kashmir. He had quit politics after his family was humiliated and threatened by the pro-Pakistan armed militants in Kashmir in early nineties. "For the first time in 20 years, I am feeling that there will be end to putting a premium on being a pro-Pakistani in Kashmir," he added. He sought anonymity for the fears of reprisals from armed militants, who, he fears, still lurk around.
Representational image. AFPRepresentational image. AFP
Many grassroots political leaders in Kashmir were feeling betrayed by New Delhi giving a matching legitimacy to the Hurriyat as Islamabad. "Standing for India has become such a crime that I have started doubting myself," said a leader, who had to send his children to south India to escape the suffocating pro-Pakistan street culture in Kashmir.
Kashmir, like rest of the Indian subcontinent, is neither a monolith entity nor a culturally monotonous society speaking in one voice. For example Radio Kashmir Srinagar (AIR, Srinagar) broadcasts in seven languages and differences among the Muslims on aligning with Pakistan are open. Asgar Ali Karbalai, a veteran leader in the Muslim dominated Kargil, had said recently that they were with Kashmiris but did not support their yearning for Azadi.
The sidelining of Hurriyat Conference is definitely being feted in Jammu and Ladakh and also pockets of Kashmir. "Hurriyat does not in any manner represent us, so why give them so much legitimacy and importance," said Sajjad Bhat, a resident of downtown Srinagar. Bhat, who runs a tailoring shop in the narrow bylanes, says Hurriyat leaders are working only for their self-interest and not for the common people.
There are several reasons why most Kashmiris have no liking for the not liking the Hurriyat Conference.
Nothing natural or Kashmiri about it:
It was cobbled in Islamabad in 1993. The first copies of its manifesto were, in fact, printed in Rawalpindi. None of the Hurriyat leaders, at that time, would see eye to eye leave alone joining hands. They were simply ordered to get together to create a 'political face' of the anti-India armed movement in Kashmir. The conglomerate has never confronted Pakistan on any issue and has primarily focused on India-bashing as a strategy.
Amoebic tendency:
The Hurriyat has the amoebic tendency of splitting too often. The splits are linked to personal ego clashes of its leaders and financial interests. Today there is the Sayed Ali Shah Geelani-headed faction, the other one is led by Mirwiaz Umar Farooq and the third by Shabir Shah.
Political deadwood:
Except Syed Ali Shah Geelani none of the Hurriyat leaders are politically active. They live in their traditional comfort zones and make no attempt to increase their following for an eventual gain in case of election. Geelani, however, has made huge inroads among the youth with his ultra religious and hard line approach. Hurriyat is a Kashmir-based and Kashmir-centric group. People in Jammu and Ladakh regions have no links with the group.
Sworn enemies:
The enmities among Hurriyat leaders are well known. For example, Sayed Ali Shah Geelani-supported Hizbul Mujjahideen is accused of killing Moulvi Farooq, father of Moulvi Umer Farooq and also Abdul Ghani Lone, father of Sajjad Lone. Sajjad has since delinked himself from the Hurriyat and had contested the last assembly elections as an independent. However, his brother Bilal Lone is part of the Hurriyat.
Hartal Conference:
Hurriyat has become a byword for 'bandh’ and ‘hartal’ in Kashmir. The group has not offered any original program to the people of Kashmir. Geelani is particularly prone to giving calls for hartals at the drop of the hat.
Divided House:
Their one-time headquarter at Srinagar’s Gogji bagh area is not even registered in the name of Hurriyat. Today all the factions occupy portions of this residential building, which hardly gives a picture of unanimity. Hurriyat is also a much divided house on the basic issue of what would they want in case of a settlement on Kashmir. The Mirwiaz-led group has debunked settlement on the basis of the 1948 United Nations resolution on Kashmir that gives Kashmiris the right to opt either for India or Pakistan through plebiscite. The Geelani faction swears by the UN resolution and is opposed to the `azadi’ idea floated by the modrates.
Good Life:
Most of the Hurriyat leaders with no known sources of income have lavish lifestyles and have owned mansions and properties overnight. This is disliked by the common people, who feel they are exploiting them

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