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     Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16039 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.190.228 Rating: N/A |
 Watch today's Mahabharat episode - a very good dialog on Karma Gist - you are hit by results of everyone else's actions - so don't attach yourself to results ( implied that you only control action, the results are out of your control so save yourself from dejection ) Kaal/time shakes the world up like a woman shaking up the grains - kaal does not care which grain goes to the top or the bottom cos in the end all will be cooked and eaten - some earlier, some later The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3968 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.157.129 Rating: N/A |
There is no such thing as a true self or find yourself . Having a goal in mind and not being satisfied until you reach that goal is understandable.But being bored with your current situation and then thinking that you need some Julia Roberts type journey to find yourself is a hogwash. Eventually you will become wise by getting bored with your boredom and be happy by having a goal and feeling satisfied once that goal is achieved. Your personality, needs and desires are formed by totally random events shaping your mind. And you are really not that special, you is going to become a spec of dust on earth eventually. And a 1000 yrs from now, no one will remember you unless you are a leader or scientist who changes the course of humanity. Have a simple mind, dont torture yourself too much. You have just found someway to rationalize your cognitive dissonance. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16037 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.190.228 Rating: N/A |
The point of contention is not the Gita.. It is the idea that all blessings and sufferings of a person are the "result" of their own past actions/karma.. And the classification of right and wrong actions... as to Gita ..Ego dissolves only when you abdicate free will...as long as you are making a conscious choice to stay on the side that you perceive as dharma or adharma, your ego is alive and kicking And I use 'you' generically - not you personally..
No rush - these questions are not going anywhere The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 8885 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 72.245.144.58 Rating: N/A |
everything matters. and why does it matter to you what people have done with God, faith or spirituality if you think that 'in the end, doesnt even matter'? It sounds that you are looking 'with out' to address your issues than 'with in'. forget about what the world has done and trying to figure "that" out with a far-fetched goal of being able to find a solution for yourself in the process. never works that way. you may end up with some epiphany but not what will ultimately help you. generic philosophy does not provide answers; your personalized search will lead you to a philo goalpost - one that will make a lot of sense to you and none at all to me. | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 47199 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.224.80.227 Rating: N/A |
think chesi chepta. right now busy. but take away from Gita should not be - do good things to get good fruits. instead, dissolve your ego and stop thinking you are performing karma. because good karma or bad karma, you stay separate from the supreme consciousness as long as you have feeling of 'I am doing it'. | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3967 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.157.129 Rating: N/A |
Jr, these don't have answers as of now . U can use religion and some explanations to give some meaning and purpose to ur life. If you don't want to, then u just have to wait until someone comes up with a secular explanation. | ||
| Nice Side Hero Username: Nice Post Number: 7935 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 122.164.173.132 Rating: N/A |
Entha chakkaga chepparu andi. Too good. Jambalhart bhayya please read this point for 10 times. You will understand how much better position you are in | ||
| Nice Side Hero Username: Nice Post Number: 7934 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 122.164.173.132 Rating: N/A |
bhayya be happy atleast we have two eyes to see, two hands and two legs. Assala emi vankaraga lekunda manam puttadame pedha adrustam ga feel avvali. Ala handicapped ga puttina vallu inka entha baadha padali mee life lo konni positives anna untayi ga, think about them. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16027 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.190.228 Rating: N/A |
I think we are on the same page there .. At a systemic level it works almost on similar lines to other systems - like say the market economy  Individual actions contribute to a systemic disturbance , and overtime with random actions the system either corrects itself or crashes and starts over or someone regulates it... I don't understand how it holds at an individual actor level - may be the understanding will come , or I will stop questioning at some point
May be there is no answer to that - can you be at peace with that ? Chris Hitchens in the face of terminal cancer said the first question as with anyone was "Why me ?" and then he said a little later he asked himself "why not me ? " If you can look at life that objectively , you don't need any of these theories/answers...if you cannot, you need to find some guru/theory/belief that puts that question to rest in you mind - it could be faith in the flying spaghetti monster as long as it does not drive you to stupid actions The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 4918 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.102.22 Rating: N/A |
Why, did not necessarily mean "me". But, in a broader sense, Why, everybody, everything, everywhere!!! The Universe has no Rules. It is all Random. What we contemplate as an Order, is a tiny speck of absolutely random Coincidence. We put those limits, those boundaries, called it the Goldilocks, built theories, and named it "The Order". Religion, and Science, Faith, and Reason. Both may seem to have their separate ways, but in all, they are the same. Possibly why one cannot completely refute the other. And then, we attributed those tiny random specks of Order, to a work of Art by the Authority. And Supreme Authority again, does not necessarily mean - A Dictatorial way. Some Higher Power, something more supreme, with a broader command, over things that are out of our control. Despite all of it, In the End, It doesn't even matter!!! | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 8882 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.164.157.158 Rating: |
and why do you think you are special? and that only you have been screwed? look around you - everyone has a similar story; may not be same as yours but some story whose magnitude of unhappiness probably dwarfs yours. you could atleast get out of your potential mysery early and I would consider you extremely lucky for that. this sense of entitlement that " I deserve better" just because you have not intentionally done anything bad - is totally misplaced. on this DB, we have platypus who lost a young son - do you think life can get any worse? in such a despondent moment, he chose to do an act of enormous magnanimity. humans are the stronger species because we are tremendously resilient and not because we cave in. such genes get sorted out of the gene pool. since you are alive and kicking, you surely have some resilience in you. find that and stop wallowing in self pity. | ||
| Ustaad_kalyan_fan Side Hero Username: Ustaad_kalyan_fan Post Number: 6288 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 49.205.81.43 Rating: N/A |
Anna u r finding time and reasons to hate someone badly who is now nomore ur well wisher. It makes u weak.u r wasting ur positive energy. | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3966 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.157.129 Rating: N/A |
It is not a easy choice to make considering the paradoxes, it seems that what choice you make with good or bad intention and consequences in your view doesnt matter. Karma points seem to be set based on the impact in the larger scheme of things, which unfortunately cannot be thought off before every simple activity in daily life. Damned if you do or dont. Consider the following two. while there can be articulate explanations, it seems a complicate task to do good to invite good karma. Karna does not come to Draupadi’s rescue when she is publicly disrobed by the Kauravas. It is this refusal to help the helpless in a moment of dire need that makes Karna a marked man in the eyes of Krishna. Punished for Inaction, understandable. Karna comes across a young girl crying because she has dropped her pot of milk on the ground and she fears punishment at the hands of her step-mother. Out of compassion, he takes the wet earth and squeezes milk out of the soil back into the pot. The girl goes away happy but Bhudevi is upset and she curses it would be the same soil that would one day, hold him to his death, as he had squeezed out milk from her soil. Punished for seemingly a Good Action. Now you might say that he caused pain to Bhudevi so he invited bad karma. If he chose to look the other way, the consequence is same as the one mentioned above. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16026 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.64.95 Rating: N/A |
Totally agree with TS ... Find a guru/ counselor you can trust and meet face to face ...whatever or whoever helps you get out of the why me paralysis and helps you move forward... As i ssid in the other Gita thread these discussions are for not for people in that turmoil .. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12792 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.43.164 Rating: N/A |
annai... already cheppa and malli chepthunna... if you want to discuss your case here, its fine... but dont expect reasons/justifications here.... too blunt gaa maatladinattu untundi... these are some points that you need to discuss with someone you believe, face to face....fone lo maatladina misunderstandings osthaay.... and for God's sake... dont take opinions of people like me (or coca  ) seriously.... remember, if you asking someone a question and listening to their answer... you are accepting him as your guru.... so be careful in whom you ask the question... edo time pass kaaka posts estunnam kaani,... (at least in my case) not any experts here.... so, if you are serious, Identify a guru for yourself and seek his guidance... you may eventually find answers that can be life shattering/altering....keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 4917 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.102.22 Rating: N/A |
Life changing level lo shattering events.. done by people.. is the core of my question!!! yevvariki telisi telisi anyaayam cheyamu.. cheyalemu... swalaabham kosam telisi telisi nittaniluvunaa munchesaaru... enduku ilaa? asalu enti sambandham? runaanubandham?? ee janma lo ilaa ante.. aa janma lo inkelaano anukuni sambara padaalaa??? | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12791 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.43.164 Rating: N/A |
I understand what you are asking... what you ask is, will there be affect of others actions on our life or not... ofcourse yes.... I cannot explain to that level how it may work... but, whenever, people who dont deserve to suffer are suffering because of some special circumstances (external, like one soul who is excersing his free will in only troubling those whom he should not trouble.... typical rakshas) then, either avataras/or his nitya suris/desciples or some correction order of that sort, comes into play to correct and set the system back.... in 'paritranaya saadhunaam, vinaasayacha dushkruthaam, dharma sampsthaapanaarthaya'... the order is first to deliver the sadhus, then to punish dushkruthas and by doing this, to reestablish dharma.... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16025 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.64.95 Rating: N/A |
branching logic to all options cover chesaru - question adi kadu What is the prescribed dharmic answer - help both, help one or help none ? from your povThe foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| J__the_heartist Hero Username: J__the_heartist Post Number: 17015 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 2.51.98.214 Rating: N/A |
 Religious wars are basically people killing each other over who has the better imaginary friend -- Napoleon Bonaparte" | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16024 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.64.95 Rating: N/A |
Let me ask a more direct question - do you believe your blessings and sufferings today are a result of solely your own actions in this or previous lives? Or is it more complex than that in your mind The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12790 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.43.164 Rating: N/A |
covered this point already
keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12789 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.43.164 Rating: N/A |
there is no paradox.... you have free will and you can chose to help either of the cases.... and if you chose your free will not to help, it doesnt matter too.... take the below cases: 1) either of cases, both dont deserve help, but you chose to help... perfectly fine from your pov.... you will accrue good points 2) either of cases, both deserve help, and you chose to help either or both, perfectly fine from your pov.... you will accrue good points] 3) either of cases, both dont deserve help, and you chose not to help... perfectly fine from your pov.... you dont accrue any points, either good or bad 4) either of cases, both deserve help and you chose not to help.... some one else will get a chance to help instead of you.... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16023 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.64.95 Rating: N/A |
Karma accrual good and bad telusu and chadivanu - ypu did not address the paradox i asked about though The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16022 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.64.95 Rating: N/A |
Agree And making up your own version of Dharma serves the same purpose Respect and belief don't have to go together I respect all scriptures - does not mean i believe everything they say - it may be hard for hardline believers to accept that dichotomy The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12788 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.43.164 Rating: N/A |
to correct you, its not you or me or someone else to give punishment....... precisely, only the king of a kingdom has the authority to give punishment... and, if a culprit is punished by the king of the kingdom, then he will not be punished again.... you cannot be tried twice for the same crime... does it sound familiar keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12787 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.43.164 Rating: N/A |
doesnt matter.... you have the free will to chose for yourself.... why are you getting bogged down by general perception..... there are enought instances where the people considered as lowest in morals have been delivered by saintly people.... so, it doesnt matter... you can help either in the quoted example.... now, there is a catch to it... to go 'back', it is not just necessary to get rid of bad karma, it is also equally necessary of getting rid of good karma too! think about itkeka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3965 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.157.129 Rating: N/A |
Can say to the non-believer/skeptic that Bhagwat Gita gives some meaning to life which can otherwise be a cold and heartless existence. I have some respect and belief for BG for Im a Hindu. Sometimes radical acceptance is good for keeping cognitive dissonance in check.
This is a paradox, but can be explained saying that current life sins are not to be forgiven, this is my own brain making up its own version of dharma. If you can give Punishment in real life,you must give, the one that cannot be given will be given by god. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16021 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.190.228 Rating: N/A |
Have not read anything after reading his stuff - that was back in the IBDB days.. Okahyderabadi might know of some The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Senapathy Moderator Username: Senapathy Post Number: 17789 Registered: 01-2009 Rating: N/A |
Aunty, Ian Stevenson works tappa, rebirth aney concept ekkada anna strong gaa promote chesara, from a rational perspective. Books, links emanna untey pampandi. Amen. I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16020 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
If you limit Karma siddhantam to just explaining causality of events - there is no issues.. Papam , punyam , good karma , bad karma to vastundi problem Solve this problem.. Does Karma sidhhantam prescribe helping a thief paying for his crimes in jail escape ? Most answer no... Now if I ask , does it prescribe helping a homeless who lost his roof in a hurricane.. The general answer is yes. Now if the assumption is the destitute lost his home because of karma, he stole someone else's home in a previous janma, the thief and that destitute deserve the same amount of sympathy.. but that's not what is prescribed , why Something to think about Now we can come up with ideas like my helping only happens if his bad karma is exhausted Then I am absolved of the karma of helping - as my free will has been negated IF free will exists then everyone with a freewill may choose not to help the guy , which means he could pay more than he was supposed to and now all his suffering is no longer a result of his own karma but everyone else's around him And there is no guarantee that it will ever balance out ...The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 15047 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68 Rating: N/A |
aagu neeku okarini parichayam chesthaan Meet Mr Satish Kumar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Sqt-zqmrk already neeku touch unte, naa tharapuna hi cheppu | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 47194 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254 Rating: N/A |
maree antha strict ga correct cheste kastam. i understand - earth has no choice but to rotate. but its not rotating just because some random event took place ani naa yokka idi inkaa naa tru feelings cheppalante - earth is alive and aware of its existence ani namutaanu. but adi naa paityam. the tiny bacteria living on my skin may feel I am moving with out free will or choice. manam kuda anthe ani naa opinion | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 15043 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68 Rating: N/A |
this is something im not too keen on. an intelligent system needs to be able to make a choice, and i dont think nature by itself makes a choice, i can understand that it can have an order, but without the ability to make a choice, it is a system that follows rules and laws, laid down by its own physical abilities. | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 47190 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254 Rating: N/A |
physical, mental. spiritual gurinchi teledu | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 15037 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68 Rating: N/A |
J_H vunkl, take it easy. pain and gain are in the mind. give time to yourself. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 15036 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68 Rating: N/A |
first point expand cheyyi, are you talking about pure physical laws, or anything spiritual here? | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16019 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Please see my previous post The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16018 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Agree a 100% Every action has consequences ..However presuming an order does not necessarily mean that the consequences of the action will complete full cycle and come back to the the entity/aatma initiating the action That part is the belief and retribution aspectThe foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Mukunda Junior Artist Username: Mukunda Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 87.81.128.40 Rating: N/A |
Original Thread is Archived. But I still never got the essence. So, here's what my feeble, peanut brain got. The Supreme Authority - Krishna says I am the kartha, karma, kriya. ---- As long as we think Krishna is just another human we can never understand this. I used think in the same line in my earlier days. I think Krishna is also himself boasting his ego. But here we need to understand the core of HIM. As said in Vishnu sahasranama first sloka, he has 3 dimensions. i) Vishwam Vishnu = The whole Universe is Vishnu (which prevades) That does not mean Vishnu is just the Universe. That is includes both Iham ( THIS) can be seen as universe where we all are exisitng . ii) vashatkara = Param ( THAT) that can not be seen is also Vishnu. This is like a place where we have come from and where we will go after death! Everything both IHAM and AHAM are controlled by HIM. iii) bhuta-bhavya-bhavat-prabhu = HE is past, present and futre ( Kala-Thetha) Now imagine if Someone/Something is speaking who has all above three attributes, then we can crack the first point. What ever is happening with in any time (or out of time) is VISHNU only. I will continue with your other questions when I get time. PS: Here HE/HIM does not mean to a particular gender because HE has no gender! | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12777 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.36.70 Rating: N/A |
nothing.... the premise of this materialistic world itself is not to prevent souls from doing wrong doings.... ok... a bit of background.... souls have left the union of supersoul/moola purusha/brahma padartha/jyothi because the souls intended to enjoy.... so, this materialistic world is created to let souls enjoy.... now all the vedas and other scriptures are like guidelines or rules on which the materialistic world is built.... now, the karma theory says.... you wanted to enjoy.... so enjoy... but not while violating the rules of the MW (material world).... you are free to enjoy though, either without violation or with violation... but if you violate, you need to bear the consequences.... and the consequences need not necessarily be immediate.... because.... your enjoyment should complete and you should get rid of all 'vasanas' and attachments to go back... so, if you do not enjoy but still want to enjoy, then that vasana would hold you back... got tired typing .... let me see if I can post one more completing it.... but hope you got the idea that I'm trying to conveykeka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12775 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.36.70 Rating: N/A |
using scripture as base for proof is mimamsa I guess... Tarka is pure logical reasoning... for debates.... i believe... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 47182 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254 Rating: N/A |
with out or with out a scripture, I tend to believe universe has some laws if you grew up with out even an iota of exposure to scriptures and you are given2 options - there is a natural order in the universe. nature is intelligent. - there is no order. everything is just random. which option would you pick? YOU = anybody | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16016 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.182.148.249 Rating: N/A |
You left out the most important and common scenario ... 3, you commit a crime, head does not explode what will deter someone from commiting wrongdoing in this scenario
Without resorting to "because the scripture says so " ? That would be interesting to see The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12772 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 223.234.252.123 Rating: N/A |
not at all...take a bunch of people and give them the below scenarios: 1) you commit a crime...your head explodes in next min 2) you commit a crime today....next birth you will be born as a donkey Which one frightens people more...which one restricts them from using free will? As I posted earlier...karma theory doesnt force anyone to do pious deeds and doesnt stop anyone from commiting mistakes... You have the option of rejecting the theory and living as you want to or you can accept theory and still live how you want to... So much freedom keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 47179 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.224.80.227 Rating: N/A |
supreme authority means - do as i say. i am kartha karma kriya ante... where does authority come into picture??? nuvvu Tagore dialog ki BHagavadgita lo line ki confuse ainattu unnaav. ekaaaaada?? there is no such thing in Gita. Garuda puranam lo undi anukunta its a very fair principle no??? what is your problem with it??? do you want to give absolute freewill with no consequences to people?? | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12771 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 223.234.252.123 Rating: N/A |
proof is accepted via tarka...logical reasoning is considered a way to prove/disprove....was referring to that...rather than to the proof in materialistic sense keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Dreamcatcher Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 6109 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 96.255.155.156 Rating: N/A |
..and "past" includes your previous birth acts too...so, we never know what we are paying for. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16015 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.64.95 Rating: N/A |
This is a fallacy ... You cannot disprove his stance, neither can he disprove yours You can offer possible answers to his Why - which neither of you can validate .. And that is where Karma siddhanta fails ...it is subject to belief all travails are attributes of past crimes - which a person has no clue of in this janma-a person who has lived well in this life can suffer while a crook enjoys - so Karma sidh takes the oh you wilfully stepped on an ant so u r getting crushed path ... As JH said it puts fear and guilt in people and jeeps them on the straight and narrow It keeps the suffering from lashing back out at society - it is a brilliant concept - is it tru is up to the person who believes or not The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 23537 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.91.183 Rating: N/A |
nijame annai .. kaani antha enraged gaa .. i have got an unfair deal ani depress aipotunnadu kada .. so asking him to think alternatively .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12768 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.109.121 Rating: N/A |
tammi... This is a discussion that should happen in person...not online....typed words could mean decptive...so...lets leave it here.... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 23535 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 14.96.91.183 Rating: N/A |
Who is to judge that you have done EVERYTHING?? Who has done a comprehensive audit of your acts? And can we really say we have caused no one any pain, by word or by deed, till now? And why should the immediate past be linked to whatever is happening to you now? which scripture or charter of rules comes up with this 10 years or 20 years or 2 years time limit? So many possible questions? no? Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12767 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.109.121 Rating: N/A |
to whom? Anyway as Anand sis said below we can go into counter argument for the sake of it....and disprove urs....just think what you posted in 1st is true and all these theories are false and everything is random! If you believe that truly.... Then instead of questioning WHY ....u'd think Whynot......ok... will not go any further....sorry if it hurts you...some other time.... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 4916 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.102.22 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgIMuTELzXI I have done EVERYTHING to better the lives of people that DEPEND on me. I have taken shots twice!!! TWICE!!! in a span of 10 years!!! I wanna ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION!!! JUST ONE!!! WHY??? | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12765 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 106.208.109.121 Rating: N/A |
bro.... I understand the situation u r in and can guess how agitated you could be tight now.... Ur intent in opening this thread is only to reject such theories and u r in no mood to debate...so...yes peaceout But once u actually peaceout and are open to discussion we can have a discussion.... Takecare keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16014 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.64.95 Rating: N/A |
JH- Its a non-falsifiable theory just like the existence of God meeru enta adamant ga false ani vadiste believers ante adamant ga true ani vadinchochu and neither of you will be any closer to finding resolution.. You have to admit that it is a pretty watertight theory in that respect The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Gandhiguevara Legend Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 46978 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 142.136.143.47 Rating: N/A |
Tappu ...neeku geeta bodhapadaledhu | ||
| Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 4915 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.102.22 Rating: N/A |
Original Thread is Archived. But I still never got the essence. So, here's what my feeble, peanut brain got. The Supreme Authority - Krishna says I am the kartha, karma, kriya. The Order - Follow this Text Book, crimes/sins/errors are clearly cited. The Dharma. The Oppression - Karma Sidhhantham, you reap what you sow. FEAR OR FREEWILL, you have crossed the lines that I have drawn in my Text Book. What am I missing? Oh I know, the fact, it is all cooked-up. Humans just like you and me. Ideologies, Philosophies, Religion, God. Core Ingredients of what we consider a CIVILIZED Society. Fear works better than Free-will. Know why?? Because, we are all innately ANIMALS. That is true, you believe it or not. We are the most advanced species amongst animals inhabiting this planet, in the second round of Evolution. Not as strong, not as fierce, not as elegant, but the most evolved, and advanced. And the Longest Runners amongst Terrestrials.. just if you didn't know. And what's the last thing that's stopping any one of us... The Authority!!!! Everyone wants to be the AUTHORITY!!! Kalikaalam. Dharmam vonti kaali meeda nadusthundi!!! My Foot!!! There is only one Fundamental!!! Aatavika Raajyam. Janthu Prapancham!!! Andina vaadiki.. andinantha!!!! Karma Sidhhantham, again?? Really??? Yenni Idealogies discuss chesinaa... FUNDAMENTALS never change!!! Peace Out!!! |
