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Royyala_nayudu
Comedian Username: Royyala_nayudu
Post Number: 1228 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 104.5.162.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 11:28 am: |
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Hero: Alan Greenspan lanti karudu kattina capitalist/economist (de-regulation kosam ee end ki ayina velle) longest serving fed chairman says he was wrong on de-regulation and capitalist economy
What Alan Greenspan did was un-capitalistic. He removed the brake for the car and marvelled at how speed the car can go. Then how would you stop without crashing? Thats what happened in 2008, now it is going to be even more worse in the future, they are pumping money like crazy. |
   
Bushu
Side Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 8824 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 18.111.80.39
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 11:19 am: |
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Cocanada:
emoyi naada, aa yoga docu choosinavaa? chaathi pongindha? |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 47147 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 11:15 am: |
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she is basically anti communist andukani pustakalu ala rasindi |
   
Hero
Side Hero Username: Hero
Post Number: 5928 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 108.65.110.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 11:02 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:would have eventually corrected itself, and government meddling just made the situation worse
Alan Greenspan lanti karudu kattina capitalist/economist (de-regulation kosam ee end ki ayina velle) longest serving fed chairman says he was wrong on de-regulation and capitalist economy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bX_vhojH8c |
   
Zulu
Megastar Username: Zulu
Post Number: 24851 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.19.145
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 10:48 pm: |
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Whyme:Novels rendu baavuntayi.
avo kooda free market/will propaganda ney..her personal philosopphy is not different from what she wrote. |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9058 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 107.214.64.27
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 10:45 pm: |
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Zulu:
Novels rendu baavuntayi.. Aa tarvatha objectivism ani begin chesi saava dobbindi.. She had cult following... She had mood swing and depression issues as well.. |
   
Zulu
Megastar Username: Zulu
Post Number: 24849 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.19.145
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 10:41 pm: |
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Jalsa:
add bushu..reactionary nutcase annadu...I agree with him...appalto communist propaganda bhebhastsam ga undedi..daniki reactionary ga eme free market..capitalism ani pattukundi..eme funded by capitalists ani kooda naku doubtu.. videos like these expose how shallow her so called philosophy is.. |
   
Jalsa
Megastar Username: Jalsa
Post Number: 24880 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 47.20.5.96
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 10:37 pm: |
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Zulu:deeni bonda..
Jalsa:mana Der tamud kukka dobbul ettadu appatlo ee sadharu ayn rand ni...
add zulesh |
   
Zulu
Megastar Username: Zulu
Post Number: 24848 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.113.19.145
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 10:35 pm: |
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deeni bonda.. |
   
Jalsa
Megastar Username: Jalsa
Post Number: 24876 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 47.20.5.96
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 10:12 pm: |
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mana Der tamud kukka dobbul ettadu appatlo ee sadharu ayn rand ni... btw, read only two books written by her - The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9055 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 107.214.64.27
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 09:54 pm: |
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Bushu: some followers like Ron Paul were not ok with the bail outs. Ayn Rand was just a reactionary nut case from russia. none of the ideas she pushed for, was new in america or the western capitalist countries. she just took an extremist stance and these govts were smart enough to balance free market capitalism with socialism.
Yes..her original philosophy was good.. After that she went nuts.. Reading her fountainhead and atlas.. Had a profound effect on me 20 years back |
   
Royyala_nayudu
Comedian Username: Royyala_nayudu
Post Number: 1209 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 143.115.155.56
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 09:46 pm: |
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Diviseema:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU
She said killing innocent children and women is wrong, she would have loathed Israel's action in this war for sure. |
   
Bushu
Side Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 8814 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 18.111.34.37
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 05:58 pm: |
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Getafix:Ayn Rand followers Republicans were totally ok with bailing out financial banks
some followers like Ron Paul were not ok with the bail outs. Ayn Rand was just a reactionary nut case from russia. none of the ideas she pushed for, was new in america or the western capitalist countries. she just took an extremist stance and these govts were smart enough to balance free market capitalism with socialism. |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 14982 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 05:42 pm: |
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Getafix:how would govt's no involvement made it better. Bailouts kosam execs kuda line kattaru..there was no confidence at all that market would have corrected itself. Ayn Rand followers Republicans were totally ok with bailing out financial banks but not ok with automobile bailout.Comedy ga undele aa rojulu.
adhi naa argument kadhu vunkl, usually rhetoric by free market supporters.  |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 15494 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.151.251.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 05:34 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:and government meddling just made the situation worse
how would govt's no involvement made it better. Bailouts kosam execs kuda line kattaru..there was no confidence at all that market would have corrected itself. Ayn Rand followers Republicans were totally ok with bailing out financial banks but not ok with automobile bailout.Comedy ga undele aa rojulu. Just Sports! |
   
Banam
Side Hero Username: Banam
Post Number: 4567 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 62.253.232.49
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 05:32 pm: |
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Any Rand from Isreal or Arab ani chadivaa!!! Chass.. Buduguu, Coolmec and Rajesh Sowjanyam tho memu kooda clipart use cheyatam start chesam... Yes Its official.... |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 14981 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 05:26 pm: |
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Getafix:2009-2010 meltdown chalu ayrn rand gari free market/wheel movers theory ni ataka ekinchataniki..it took a semi socialistic govt to bring order to the chaos.
ofcourse, the argument would be that chaos would have eventually corrected itself, and government meddling just made the situation worse  |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 15493 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.151.251.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 05:18 pm: |
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2009-2010 meltdown chalu ayrn rand gari free market/wheel movers theory ni ataka ekinchataniki..it took a semi socialistic govt to bring order to the chaos. Just Sports! |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 14980 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 04:42 pm: |
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Whyme:A free market/economy/ethos would have allowed things like stem cell research, cloning proceed more and might have benifotted people suffering from terminal illnesses or people with know hereditary diseases..
govt is nothing but ppl, entha kaadhu anna idhi nijam. so ppl who cry foul on government are usuall the minority, again right and wrong eventually majority ye decide chesthadhi. |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9049 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 166.205.68.31
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 04:00 pm: |
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A free market/economy/ethos would have allowed things like stem cell research, cloning proceed more and might have benifotted people suffering from terminal illnesses or people with know hereditary diseases.. Again the same freedom could cause other ethical problems |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9048 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 166.205.68.31
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:57 pm: |
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M_S I agree with your view that things go in a cycle (socialistic to capitalistic ..) You see these cycles in corp world also they keep going from centralized to decentralized orgs |
   
Bongaram
Hero Username: Bongaram
Post Number: 12772 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 106.51.235.52
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:28 pm: |
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Whyme:But again why should I pay for the welfare of a bum who abuses substance and does not earn a dime???
Mental_sachinodu:really depends on how the society was formed. for instance, in countries, especially which are old, the natural resources are shared. so every citizen born in that country/society inherits abit of the "wealth", and everyone else is renting that that wealth when i alive, and you are paying the rent through taxes. now the governments use these taxes for the "betterment" of society. now what this betterment is debatable.
yeah.. if we go by this line of thought we can't resist appreciating the varna system of Indian culture which basically divides the work btwn communities.. and creates an interdepency environment.. but again.. thats not free market but an idea to achieve on the objective of free market |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 14978 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:22 pm: |
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Whyme:But again why should I pay for the welfare of a bum who abuses substance and does not earn a dime???
really depends on how the society was formed. for instance, in countries, especially which are old, the natural resources are shared. so every citizen born in that country/society inherits abit of the "wealth", and everyone else is renting that that wealth when i alive, and you are paying the rent through taxes. now the governments use these taxes for the "betterment" of society. now what this betterment is debatable. in countries that are formed recently, the resources have been brought up(by various means), and so the resources are not inherited equally, hence there can be a different opinion, as to what the "share" on the resources means. this is the reason, some folks did not have rights to vote in the government because they government did not have to protect anything others have. like women did not have the property, so they did not get to vote, slaves did not have property, and they did not have the right to vote, and folks who did not have vote, did not have a say on what the government can do. but after a few generations thes rules will appear archaic as the non-voting community would have made some contributions to the communities, and they seem to have some sort of say in what the government can do . i feel its natural cycle for societies to turn socialist(im not saying communist) over long run, others might disagree. |
   
Bongaram
Hero Username: Bongaram
Post Number: 12771 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 106.51.235.52
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:16 pm: |
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Diviseema:after reading so many of her works, my assumption is she is missing the most imp. factor TIME. A doctor can fix his rate in free market . agreed. but if he demands on situations its immoral . it can lead to serious disturbances in free market .
problem is a doctor if not a maniac can foresee it..tanu ippudu edo cheste repu tanaki janam earth edataru ani telusu.. kabatti by default cheyyadu.. ani aame philosophy emo |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 14977 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:14 pm: |
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Diviseema:
basic socialist and free enterprise differences meedha argument.. you can argue day and night, and come with pros and cons. there is no clear cut answer, and really is an ideological difference. the world more than likely started with a free enterprise and consciously or unconsciously turns socialistic in nature. it really depends on the people, its the people who decide what their government needs to do. there is no right and wrong here. if the majority of people want their government to have that medicine be available to the rest of the 5000, there is not much anyone can do. Im sure these same kind of notions would have propped up, while the governments were trying to abolish slavery. There would be opponents who would be saying, if a person is willingly ready to sell himself, who is the government to stop? it boils down to as a society where we want to be. In the above scenario, the medicine man who has the cure has the right to sell his medicine at the price he wants to. the government can pay the price and the rest of the folks pay for it, and that is how today's world works. its a mixed medium right now. |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9047 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 166.205.68.40
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:12 pm: |
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By controlling free thinking, enterprise you are stifling innovation, improvement and competition Strictly as a philosophy it is utopian.. Practically needs adjustment/compromise.. But again why should I pay for the welfare of a bum who abuses substance and does not earn a dime??? |
   
Diviseema
Megastar Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 22492 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:07 pm: |
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Getafix:
no she says govt. cannot fix rates or restrict anything. it must be absolute free market. she says an oil company can fix its price at any level. yes i agree with her in this. if someone prices abnormal , that company cannot sustain and some other will make oil and sell or an alternative fuel or tools will come up. BUT, my question is if the oil company is reasonable most of the time and most of the people and not all the time and people? PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |
   
Royyala_nayudu
Comedian Username: Royyala_nayudu
Post Number: 1206 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 104.5.162.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:03 pm: |
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Diviseema:1. Assume that one man(A) invented a vaccine for a deadly disease (say AIDS ). 2. There are 20000 victims of AIDS in this world. 3. A sold the medicine to 15000 of the victims and rejected to sell to other because they cannot afford the price A quoted. 4. should the govt. allow the other 5000 to die . or if no govt. what should happen
Govt has many hospitals under its control in India. Do you know how many people die there because of lack of medicine? They would have been better prepared if they knew that these govt hospitals are of no use. |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9046 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 166.205.68.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:03 pm: |
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Her total lean towards objectivism, capitalism is not very realistic She went pole opposite to what she has seen in ussr during her childhood The belief is free-enterprise will eventually elevate the standards of living than a controlled environment.. |
   
Diviseema
Megastar Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 22491 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:02 pm: |
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after reading so many of her works, my assumption is she is missing the most imp. factor TIME. A doctor can fix his rate in free market . agreed. but if he demands on situations its immoral . it can lead to serious disturbances in free market . Her idea of free market is a responsible people driven , self disciplined , rational, reasonable .. she assumes all the people on earth must be idle. is that possible. if so that itself will be a idle govt. (informal) PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |
   
Getafix
Hero Username: Getafix
Post Number: 15482 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.151.251.178
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:01 pm: |
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Diviseema:why is she so against govts
she is not against govts.. she is particularly against socialistic form of govt. Her view is any govt has no right to annex individual property in the name of greater good. inka vaccination vishayanikosthe ..as per idealogy - if govt pays appropriate price to the inventor and then distributes to people - her aakul challabadthai ani guess kodthunna. Just Sports! |
   
Royyala_nayudu
Comedian Username: Royyala_nayudu
Post Number: 1205 Registered: 04-2014 Posted From: 104.5.162.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 03:00 pm: |
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Diviseema: in reality can world work like that.
Yes it worked like that since early humanity. |
   
Diviseema
Megastar Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 22489 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:46 pm: |
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i dont what singles , i want answer. its basic question. argument continues on ur answers. PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |
   
Diviseema
Megastar Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 22488 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:45 pm: |
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why is she so against govts. why she says govt. job is only to protect people. (police and army) and it have no other work. in reality can world work like that. who will build roads. ( i know the answer, u say people) . any individual cannot pay. it must be a group . a union. is that not a govt. PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |
   
Diviseema
Megastar Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 22487 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.11
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:42 pm: |
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1. Assume that one man(A) invented a vaccine for a deadly disease (say AIDS ). 2. There are 20000 victims of AIDS in this world. 3. A sold the medicine to 15000 of the victims and rejected to sell to other because they cannot afford the price A quoted. 4. should the govt. allow the other 5000 to die . or if no govt. what should happen PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 47139 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:40 pm: |
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Whyme:Who is john galt..
Darren Wayne grand son of Pico Wayne |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9045 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 166.205.68.30
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:36 pm: |
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Anand_n: As an author - huge fan/admirer of her books
Same here.. Who is john galt.. |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 15942 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:31 pm: |
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Diviseema:ayn rand followers/admirers
As an author - huge fan/admirer of her books Her personal political ideology - have not particularly followed her views outside her books other than watching a few video interviews The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 14972 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:14 pm: |
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Diviseema:i basic question i want to ask to ayn rand followers/admirers about her ideology. anyone here.
follower ni kani , admirer ni kaani kaadhu.. but ask the quechen, i think i understand her ideology...  |
   
Reddit
Side Hero Username: Reddit
Post Number: 7057 Registered: 05-2013 Posted From: 122.175.10.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:14 pm: |
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Diviseema:
Im not a fan of her ideology but ask your question will try to answer from that perspective. Spend less time trying to be brilliant and more time trying to avoid obvious stupidity. |
   
Diviseema
Megastar Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 22486 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 02:11 pm: |
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i basic question i want to ask to ayn rand followers/admirers about her ideology. anyone here. PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9044 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 166.205.68.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 01:59 pm: |
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Not about this topic.. I saw ayn rand name.. Came and paid my respects here |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 14970 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 01:58 pm: |
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i feel she wasnt too articulate here... |
   
Whyme
Side Hero Username: Whyme
Post Number: 9043 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 166.205.68.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 01:40 pm: |
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Ayn Rand - is great |
   
Diviseema
Megastar Username: Diviseema
Post Number: 22484 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.71.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2014 - 12:18 pm: |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA |