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lol :D ...t agitators anta ....vammmo ... baaga muduri poyindi .....jabbu



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Never ask tough and logical questions to T agitators...they either abuse you or run away.....



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Never ask tough and logical questions to T agitators...they either abuse you or run away.....


For every minute you are angry….. you lose sixty seconds of happiness…
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bothiGa pani lenattu undi ... naaku ... take care ammaa .. you keep posting ..

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bothida pani lenattu undi ... naaku ... take care ammaa .. you keep posting ..

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Methhanithodugu:

meeru kaaniyaandi .. enjoy the ignorance ...




Naake theleekane aduguthunnaa... ignorance ayite ayi vundavachu.

but, neeku teliste cheppochu kadaa...

If Section 8 is useless, why TS govt referred and agreed to perform some actions as per Section 8 in its official response to Central govt?
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meeru kaaniyaandi .. enjoy the ignorance ...

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Methhanithodugu:

section 8 is not an act or BIll its a committee report can be thrown in dustbin .. there is no LEGAL BINDING ..kaneesam idi kdua telika ... vadddule .. meeru kaaiyaandi ... jenala lani ep lu seyyandi .. supreme court ni kaadu ...





If that were the case, why TS govt referred that section by numbers in their official response to central government?


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section 8 is not an act or BIll its a committee report can be thrown in dustbin .. there is no LEGAL BINDING ..kaneesam idi kdua telika ... vadddule .. meeru kaaiyaandi ... jenala lani ep lu seyyandi .. supreme court ni kaadu ...


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Idi as per bill yeeeee
Polavaram ordinance as per bill yeeee

Oorika raddantam chestunnaru
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Kotta bangaru lokam...enni sarlu fail ayina kuda alupu solupu leni kongrotta dimpudu kallem aashalu..lol..




ayyappa society lands pai kavitakka stand chudu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPLLgeBQAIc

kotha pichodiki 1 week lone pishaaaab...
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Onlytruth:

T bill lo annnii undavu




"In discharge of the functions, the Governor shall, after consulting the Council of Ministers of the State of Telangana, exercise his individual judgment"

consult T cabinet ani clear gaa unte malli police board ni consult cheyyali anatam enti comedy gaa ..... T cabinet cheppindi nachakapothe swantha decision teesukovachu .... inko state police ni 10 years appoint chese adhikaram governor ki untadaa asalu .... emanna logic undaa aa circular lo
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Kotta bangaru lokam...enni sarlu fail ayina kuda alupu solupu leni kongrotta dimpudu kallem aashalu..lol..




kotha pichollaki anthe...
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Kotta bangaru lokam...enni sarlu fail ayina kuda alupu solupu leni kongrotta dimpudu kallem aashalu..lol..
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Rbabu:

not in the bill




T bill lo annnii undavu, like gaali peelchukovali, vucha poyyaali, brush chesukovaali type undavu.......its implied

HYD law n order Governor chusukuntaadu ante they can propose their own way of doing it

raastrala powers gurinchi matladithe asalu United AP powers gurinci matladali...T anedhe ledhu


T ragane states power antunnaru dagulbhaji LK kcr n son
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Dma:

item g)




thats central govt recent proposal..not t bill
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Dma:

OT ichina link lo item g) says otherwise.




That is in Central govt circular sent yesterday. It's not in the bill.
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Rbabu:

There is no mention of special police board. There is no mention of posting AP state officers permanently in Hyderabad.




OT ichina link lo item g) says otherwise.
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T govt clear ga seemandhra vallu illu koolchadaniki target chesindhi, which no central govt will tolerate !
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T govt response to Central govt :

prati daniki memoka special officer ni pedataamu DGP office lo ani escape avaniki try chesthunnaru .. i dont think central will listen to this a.holes

http://epaper.eenadu.net/pdf/2014/07/08/20140708a_002134004. pdf
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Sonia ki mood vachinda Modi accept chesada division ienda antu vundali that.is India enti ye thokka lo discussion state devide chesnapudu chodala 365 ani okadu 365d ani okadu emi iendi sonia ki mood vasthey ..ante ruling party ki anukondi
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Hyderabad State lo Telangana State Party ki enti sambandam.
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T BILL :


8. (1) On and from the appointed day, for the purposes of administration of the
common capital area, the Governor shall have special responsibility for the security of life,
liberty and property of all those who reside in such area.
(2) In particular, the responsibility of the Governor shall extend to matters such as law
and order, internal security and security of vital installations, and management and allocation
of Government buildings in the common capital area.
(3) In discharge of the functions, the Governor shall, after consulting the Council of
Ministers of the State of Telangana, exercise his individual judgment as to the action to be
taken:
Provided that if any question arises whether any matter is or is not a matter as
respects which the Governor is under this sub-section required to act in the exercise of his
individual judgment, the decision of the Governor in his discretion shall be final, and the
validity of anything done by the Governor shall not be called in question on the ground that
he ought or ought not to have acted in the exercise of his individual judgment.







CENTRAL GOVT DECISION BASED ON T BILL :


“In order to ensure that the provisions regarding the special responsibility of the Governor is implemented smoothly vis-a-vis the Government of Telangana, the following amendments to the state business transaction rules are proposed:

(1) The Governor shall have power to call for any record or information or decision of the Council of Ministers or any authority relating to the responsibilities envisaged under Section 8 of the AP Reorganisation Act, 2014. The Commissioners of Police and the SP of Ranga Reddy district shall furnish periodical reports of law and order to the Governor in addition to special reports on all grave and specially grave crimes in the common capital area.

(2) The Governor shall have the power to issue a direction in accordance with the provisions of law or regulation.

(3) The Governor will be assisted by adviser/s appointed by the government of India. The Governor shall allot the responsibilities between the advisors as deemed fit from time to time.

(4) For the purposes of matters falling under law and order, internal security and security of vital installations as well as the two Police Commissionerates currently operating in the common capital area i.e. the Hyderabad and the Cyberabad and commissionerates, and for the district of Ranga Reddy, the home secretary of the state of Telangana shall brief the Governor on all matters mentioned above as well as those that have special significance and the Governor may convey his views which shall be placed before the appropriate authority. Governor’s advice shall prevail.

(5) A special cell headed by an officer not below the rank of inspector general in both the commissionerates and with a senior officer in the office of SP, Ranga Reddy, shall be set up to deal with hate crimes and crimes related to extortion or any other specified crime and ensure speedy trial; wide publicity would be given to the contact numbers of the officers of this cell so as to enable citizens to contact them directly.

(6) A special cell to deal with issues concerning internal security and security of vital installations with a senior officer in-charge shall be set up in both the commissionerates and in the office of SP, Ranga Reddy.

The special cell shall also identify sensitive establishments/institutions and report to the Governor through the government of Telangana on the adequacy or otherwise of the security arrangements of the said establishment/installation. The cell shall undertake a review of the existing security provided by the Special Protection Force (SPF), Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) etc. and suggest additional measures, if considered necessary to ensure fool proof security of the notified installations. The Governor may suggest measures to strengthen the security arrangements based on the information made available and the threat perceptions, which shall be binding. A nodal officer from the senior management cadre shall be appointed in all the notified vital installations, who shall be responsible for furnishing periodical review reports on the security status of the installation and for implementation of the recommendations of the special cell.

Powers to order Telangana for probe

(7) A police service board comprising DGP Telangana and the Commissioner of Police, Hyderabad and Cyberabad should be set up exclusively for the state of Telangana in context of law and order administration of the common capital area of Hyderabad to handle the transfer and postings of all officers including DCPs, ACPs and SHOs.

The police force of Hydera-bad and Cyberabad commissionerates shall be a joint force comprising of elements from Andhra and Telangana on fair share basis in higher supervisory posts i.e. Deputy Commissio-ners of Police, Addl Com-missioners of Police and Commissioners of Police. In case of officers drawn from residual state of AP, a Police Service Board on the lines of Telangana will propose a panel of names. The Gover-nor shall have the power to approve and suggest such changes as he deems fit as per his best judgment.

(8) In case the Governor considers it necessary in view of the situation, as per his best judgment, to requisition additional forces for deployment, he would ask the state government to examine this issue and communicate the decision to the Governor. This decision will be subject to review under Section 8 of the Act and the Governor’s decision shall be final after such review.

(9) The Governor can call for a report or assessment from the state government of Telangana on any acts of omission and commission by any official and direct the government to conduct an enquiry and take appropriate action as per law.

Authority to protect property rights

(10) In case of exigencies, the Governor can call for a re-port or assessment from the state government of Telangana upon which he can ask the state government specifically for reallocation of staff on a temporary basis in case of any contingency.

(11) The management and allocation of buildings to all the departments of both the successor states shall be decided by the Governor on the recommendations of the Commi-ttee of Senior Officers constituted for the purpose keeping in view the requirement and availability of accommodation. The decision of the Governor shall be final.

(13) To ensure the safety of property of the common capital of Hyderabad, the collectors of Hyderabad and Ranga Reddy districts as well as the commissioner of GHMC shall set up grievance cells for the redressal of grievances and affected parties shall have the right to represent themselves. The Governor can issue necessary directions to the officials of the state government of Telangana for the protection of the property rights of the aggrieved.
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But,

Is it by default?

or

as TS arguing, only when TS govt requests?

when does Governor comes into picture?


From what I see, AP's argument is more closer to what is Section 8. Isnt it?
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Governor after consulting t cabinet can disagree with them and take independent decision. There is no mention of special police board. There is no mention of posting AP state officers permanently in Hyderabad.
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This is the most important line the bill

"In discharge of the functions, the Governor shall, after consulting the Council of Ministers of the State of Telangana, exercise his individual judgment"
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Section 8.
(1) On and from the appointed day, for the purposes of administration of the
common capital area, the Governor shall have special responsibility for the security of life, liberty and property of all those who reside in such area.
(2) In particular, the responsibility of the Governor shall extend to matters such as law and order, internal security and security of vital installations, and management and allocation of Government buildings in the common capital area.
(3) In discharge of the functions, the Governor shall, after consulting the Council of Ministers of the State of Telangana, exercise his individual judgment as to the action to be taken:
Provided that if any question arises whether any matter is or is not a matter as
respects which the Governor is under this sub-section required to act in the exercise of his individual judgment, the decision of the Governor in his discretion shall be final, and the validity of anything done by the Governor shall not be called in question on the ground that he ought or ought not to have acted in the exercise of his individual judgment.
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AP: Law and Order should be under Governor's control

TS: Law and Order under Governor's control only when TS govt requests so in case it could not handle it.


Whats really in Section 8?
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