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CBN has already sent out a couple of teams to inspect and learn how HP & Punjab manufacturing clusters are functioning. IT & ITeS is be all end all anukunte matram they will be in for a shock.
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South- Bangalore, Chennai and Hyd.


Trivanduram, Pune & Bhuvaneshwar are not very far.
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I am not saying IT ne penchali manufacturing vadu anatam la....

any job created, any job will have a value




Obviously, dantlo doubt emi undhi...but my fear is that we spend a lot of time on IT etc but it is not possible to create another hub when there are already 3 hubs in South- Bangalore, Chennai and Hyd...South motham lo mfg power house ga kummeyachhu...
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real estate entha peruguddo ettandi Vizag lo....
fortune 500 company kante better supply chain and logistics unnai vallaki... ittanti entrepreneurship ni encourage cheyali - Bangarappa about Gali Johnny
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SA has everything except capital city

Telangana has nothing but capital city.

Leaving Hyderabad Metro rest of Telangana is piece of junk
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I am not saying IT ne penchali manufacturing vadu anatam la....

any job created, any job will have a value
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I am not sure - but is there a petrochemical plant in Andhra....adhi okati kattali ...lots of downstream industries vosthai - textiles, plastics, packaging, prefab materials, composites etc.


KKD lo GMR ki petrochemical sez has been sanctioned. Vizag - KKD will be petrochemical zone ani annar…
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Economics lekka idhi- consumption + Investment + G + NX = GDP, consumption makes sense to the state when it being captured in that state..if the guy is spending it on buying motorcyles made in Gurgaon or cars made in Chennai, evariki labham...the NX which is net exports is negative and the 300 crs you are talking about will be negated by more of imports from outside the state. So unless you are creating the industries that are going to use this additional income creation, we can't aspire to the next level.




there are about 56 different types of taxes individuals pay to state? central.... IT lo work these gala income levels vala directly or indirectly they pay 10+ types of taxes... meeru cheputhona vato lo work these valalo not even 20% will have those income levels...

"Form C ichi Gujarath ki 4% tax katatam jamanalo....
I think you don't know how the tax system works in India... ikaditho aapedha discussion...
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Economics lekka idhi- consumption + Investment + G + NX = GDP, consumption makes sense to the state when it being captured in that state..if the guy is spending it on buying motorcyles made in Gurgaon or cars made in Chennai, evariki labham...the NX which is net exports is negative and the 300 crs you are talking about will be negated by more of imports from outside the state. So unless you are creating the industries that are going to use this additional income creation, we can't aspire to the next level.

That is why Hyd has remained a city of shopkeepers, industries unte value capture would have been at the manufacturing level...manaki ee low end bajji kotlu migilayi...

I already mentioned the indirect job creation


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parasite industries like Construction and food industry or food processing flourish only when high income people live in that part




Not true - high income living in a city has nothing do with food industries having to be there (apart from restaurants that is as that is a service and a local business). Haldirams ekkadi nunchi vasthondhi, Nestle/ Parle/ Britannia ekkadi nunchi vasthonnayi...they will located industries where they get good workers, infrastructure etc...for them the retail locations and distribution are centred around local incomes and not the actual manufacturing.
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Kindhi example lo 500 Cr per month earnings una valu entha income tax kadatharu and dantlo nundi entha share AP ki vasthadi ???

kaki lekalu vasina 150 Cr per year share vasthadi AP ki... idi just employees katedhi
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Economics basics marchipothe ela ???

let us assume oak city lo 10K it flocks unaaru anukundham who are getting paid 50K average ante they are earning about 500 CR per month... dantlo valu oak 200 CR save chesesukuna 300 CR per month spend chestharu...

what about the scales tax they pay...
what aout vehicle taxes they pay ??
what about indirect employment they create ??
what about land registration charges they pay when they buy out of their savings ??

oka ti gurthu petuko aa city lo every month 300+ cr business nadusthadh...

ade 1L jobs unayi anuko 3K cr business untadhi... parasite industries like Construction and food industry or food processing flourish only when high income people live in that part
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I am not sure - but is there a petrochemical plant in Andhra....adhi okati kattali ...lots of downstream industries vosthai - textiles, plastics, packaging, prefab materials, composites etc.
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no need to bend over backward and give them free land, tax breaks etc. Their demands are usually unreasonable and out of whack.




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Reddit cheppindhi correct ye kada, take Bangalore for instance...IT industries do not pay income tax (most of them are in a SEZ or still availing STPI benefits), excise, sales tax, export duties emi undavu...anduke Bangalore infra ala sanka nakindhi...in fact the benefit for a city in getting IT is not easily quantifiable...of course there are all these numbers about indirect job creation of 4 or 5:1 for drivers, catering, security, facility providers etc. But these are absolutely low end jobs and no country became rich by creating these kinds of jobs...what are needed are actually reasonably well paying manufacturing jobs....we should stop focussing on IT in fact, that horse has bolted, if it comes well and good but no need to bend over backward and give them free land, tax breaks etc. Their demands are usually unreasonable and out of whack.

Gujarat lo enni IT industries unnayi enti...use the natural advantages that SA has and build upon it.
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la vachina dantlo 60%(IT biggest chunk) central pool of taxes ki elthundi anedi telusa meek?




ok nuvu continue ayi po cheputha
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Aa high paying IT jobs vala vache indirect income sangathi anti ??? aid entha untadho telusa ???


em indirect income vasthundi? Ala vachina dantlo 60%(IT biggest chunk) central pool of taxes ki elthundi anedi telusa meeku?
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hyd lo chusthunnam kada either stpi or sez ki move chesthune vumnaru projects and konni stpis ki terms increase chesthunnaru




Aa high paying IT jobs vala vache indirect income sangathi anti ??? aid entha untadho telusa ???
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hyd lo chusthunnam kada either stpi or sez ki move chesthune vumnaru projects and konni stpis ki terms increase chesthunnaru
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IT is a great job creator but a very poor revenue earner




evaru chepaaru???
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Forget about IT sector and better CBN takes up food processing & manufacturing sectors to usher in the growth. IT is a great job creator but a very poor revenue earner also trickle effect won't be there like manufacturing sector.
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Andhra side manchi IT companies emanna vachi .. openings unte .. ee chennai vadilesi .. akkada ki migrate aipodaam ani chustunna .. long term lo best move emo? emantaru?




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see shore dagaraga port cities ni connect chesthu new highway...


new highway deniki annai? Chennai ke ledu .. vaallu kuda .. normal 4 lane highway tho nadipestunnaru business .. and aa facility Vizag ki .. Nellore ki unnayi .. kotta highways waste anukunta .. max ante .. 6 lane ki extend chesukunte inko 20 years set aipovachu ..
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Andhra side manchi IT companies emanna vachi .. openings unte .. ee chennai vadilesi .. akkada ki migrate aipodaam ani chustunna .. long term lo best move emo? emantaru?
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idi alreadu undi kada annai .. 4 lane?? kottaga em cheyyali?




see shore dagaraga port cities ni connect chesthu new highway... Asian development bank could partner with new govt...

next few months lone sign avavacu ee project.... ee proposal ganaka work out ayithe dynamics chala marathayi... towns like Machalipatnam will come into limelight
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vizag lo ivanni unnai electricity ye weekly once power holiday ....


IT ki .. 14-16 hours a day power avasaram anuko .. max 6 days a week .. quality power undali chaalu ..
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water and roads


roads ante .. my meaning is .. city roads .. not highways .. avi elaga bagane unnayi .. in my view .. just proper maintenance is enough ..

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build Chennai to Vizag highway...


idi alreadu undi kada annai .. 4 lane?? kottaga em cheyyali?

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schools and hospitals


I think .. schools and hospitals problem em ledu Andhra side .. manchi education and doctors/hospitals eppati nuncho unnaru .. and I heard .. lot of these Yashoda, Appollo, KIMS, Sunshine etc hospitals anni are setting up hospitals in Andhra .. chaala rapid ga expand avutunnaru ..
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Priority list as per him...

Capital
schools and hospitals
water and roads
electricity and telecom
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land sare? rest of the infra? quality electricity? water? roads? qualified Human Resources? (ofcourse skill set unna vallu move avutaaru .. not a big deal) ..




Exactly... CBN also thinking in same lines... CBN tho meeting jaripina oak IAS cheparu CBN ana as is matalu

"Not necessary to touch base the industrialist right now, need of the day is to improve infra and roads... lots of care to be taken about drinking water and water supply for agriculture and industry... build Chennai to Vizag highway... focus on telecom... ivi ani jarigithe industries ave vasthayi and I will make sure federation of Indian Industry will host their next secessions"
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infra? quality electricity? water? roads? qualified Human Resources? (ofcourse skill set unna vallu move avutaaru .. not a big deal) ..




vizag lo ivanni unnai electricity ye weekly once power holiday ....ee electricity dobbetakunda undunte full undedi chuss....peak daridram summer lone just 2 hrs teestunnat vizag lo......
i am leading a pious life so far so good
new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela?
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land ready ga available for industries ee 2 places lo undi


land sare? rest of the infra? quality electricity? water? roads? qualified Human Resources? (ofcourse skill set unna vallu move avutaaru .. not a big deal) ..
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land ready ga available for industries ee 2 places lo undi land ready ante denotify chesi industry pettatani ready ga undi govt deggara ani koni direct industry pettukovacchu.....

migata chotla malli procedure begin 1st nunchi revenue survey displacement then allocation etc.....

ee 2 places lone big industries ravocchu immediate future lo.....
i am leading a pious life so far so good
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