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Chakkera_keli
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Evolution was never uniform. The world works when there is knowledge as well as ignorance. Not just one

As some people evo;ve spritually.... more number of people still look for mantal evolution and material evolution

So this is a continuous process which will make worls a better place




i agree.... and it is amazing how advanced thinking has not connectivity with time and region....

for example advanced philosophy and spirituality has been written thousands of years ago.... when there is no industrialization... it proves that prosperity is relative....
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Evolution was never uniform. The world works when there is knowledge as well as ignorance. Not just one

As some people evo;ve spritually.... more number of people still look for mantal evolution and material evolution

So this is a continuous process which will make worls a better place
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No what i mwan to say is, ultra modern man need to use less physical strenght than his older counter parts

Olden time very few has the ability to evolve spiritually , now lasrge human pululation in moder times are in the trnasition period of Mental and Spriritual evolution which requires more use of Brain and Mind and Heart and intellect

Ofcourse basic physical strenght is needed for healthy life




do you think this has to do with prosperity, industrialization (automation)??
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No what i mwan to say is, ultra modern man need to use less physical strenght than his older counter parts

Olden time very few has the ability to evolve spiritually , now lasrge human pululation in moder times are in the trnasition period of Mental and Spriritual evolution which requires more use of Brain and Mind and Heart and intellect

Ofcourse basic physical strenght is needed for healthy life
People Taught fitting lesson to low-character, Sicular, Inttelectual sick minds, and corrupt leaders a lesson. JAI INDIA and its PEOPLE.
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Seinfeld:

mind lo fix ayithe blind gaa ellipotha.. vinaaaaaaaa




neeku thikkundhi.... dhaaniko lekkundhaa??
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Chakkera_keli:


muscularity and physical appearance


YA IT MATTERS.. MOGODU ,mogidi laga undali.. mahesh babu laga unte ela :D
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Chakkera_keli:


time waste annai.



Coolmac:


septhe vinav ga




mind lo fix ayithe blind gaa ellipotha.. vinaaaaaaaa :D
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Last_avataar:

where physical strenght doesn't matter much , except for normal living.




what about progeny... and $eX...??

muscularity and physical appearance.. is it not necessary ??

or standards would change over the period of time...??
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Seinfeld:

nuvvu muy :D

sadivi detailed gaa post setha




septhe vinav ga..baga optimistic nuvvu
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motham sadavali ani undi kaaani after work saduvutha




time waste annai.... already summarize sesi important points eeda pedtunnaru....
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pedda use ledhu..sadhavak nuvvu


nuvvu muy :D

sadivi detailed gaa post setha
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This is how our evolution goes

Half-Human + Half Beast (->) Moder man with complete Physical evoultion (->) ultra modern Man with Mental Evolution (->) Complete Human with Spiritual Evolution beyound brain

We are in the beginning of last stage, where physical strenght doesn't matter much , except for normal living.
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does that mean men are more intelligent than women?
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so today's humans show the effects of that lifestyle change - comparing them to 1-2 gen of animals raised in captivity seems off



yes i felt the same .. but i think the core is how different our muscles have evolved over time .. when compared to other primates.

pasting one more interesting note from the article

Genomes, including the human genome, accumulate changes steadily over time. Among the genetic changes that have happened over the course of human evolution, only a few might be responsible for the rise of distinct human features. To determine what other molecules played a role in human evolution, scientists began to look beyond the genome. The international team of scientists, led by Dr Philipp Khaitovich from Shanghai, examined for the first time the evolution of the human metabolome -- the compendium of metabolites present in human tissues. "Metabolites are more dynamic than the genome and they can give us more information about what makes us human," says Khaitovich. "It is also commonly known that the human brain consumes way more energy than the brains of other species; we were curious to see which metabolic processes this involves."

Indeed, it turned out that unlike the uniformly-paced evolution of the genome, the metabolome of the human brain has evolved four times faster than that of the chimpanzee. What was more surprising, however, is that human muscle accumulated an even higher amount of metabolic change -- ten times that of the chimpanzee!
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motham sadavali ani undi kaaani after work saduvutha :D




pedda use ledhu..sadhavak nuvvu :D
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motham sadavali ani undi kaaani after work saduvutha :D
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Mental_sachinodu:




captain america story.... simplifies the research...

another best example is the countryUSA. use the brain most of the time and have brawn as backup plan....
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Mental_sachinodu:




Evolutionary deterioration avochu kada - with human brain development and adapting the environment to humans, the need for physical work was reduced as soon as farming came in - so today's humans show the effects of that lifestyle change - comparing them to 1-2 gen of animals raised in captivity seems off - there may be more detail in the article - I just skimmed it - will read later..:-)

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apparently yes ! saana variety ga anipnchindhi article chaduvuthunte ... hmmm

always wondered about non-human muscle development, when observing pets and other domesticated animals. but this article provides good insights


http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjo urnal.pbio.1001871

The relatively small effect of the short-term environmental changes on metabolite concentrations in macaque tissues indicates that the extraordinary human-specific metabolic divergence observed in skeletal muscle, PFC, and brain might reflect the phenotypic differences between humans and other species. We hypothesize that rapid metabolic evolution in brain and skeletal muscle is associated with unique cognitive and physical abilities of humans. While cognitive functions clearly distinguish humans from other primates, to our knowledge only anecdotal observations exist suggesting that human muscular strength could be inferior to that of other primates [11]–[15]. To investigate this, we conducted a series of experiments aimed at providing an approximate estimate of muscular strength in a pulling task accomplished by humans (n = 42), chimpanzees (n = 5), and macaques (n = 6) (Movie S1). The task consisted of pulling suspended adjustable weights in a setup involving both upper and lower parts of the body and conducted in a procedure allowing us to estimate the maximum pulling strength of an individual. In this test humans showed substantially inferior performance compared with chimpanzees and macaques, with an average strength difference of almost 2-fold (Wilcoxon test, p<0.001, Figure 4c, Table S20). Prolonged training is known to increase human strength [16], therefore the tested humans included 16 individuals engaged in regular physical activities, among them five university team basketball players and four professional climbers. By contrast, all tested nonhuman primates were raised in captivity and were never subjected to physical training. Many additional factors including ones potentially favoring nonhuman primates, such as difference in muscle mass distribution between front and hind limbs [17],[18], as well as ones favoring humans, such as motivation to perform, could not be accounted for in our experiment. The inability to control nonhuman primates' motivation hinders the exact quantification of the muscular strength difference between humans and nonhuman primates, even in a highly controlled experimental setup. Nonetheless, our results indicate the existence of systematic differences in muscle performance between humans and nonhuman primates.

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