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Saarang
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Sukumarudu:
After modi.. Jagan PM candidate ga kavalanta SA vallaki ..lol
30 pecent ki 4 percent ki emanna comparison undha?
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Sukumarudu
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Onlytruth:
Modi got 30 per cent share in Seemandhra but Rahul stood at poor 3 per cent.
Interestingly, 4 per cent of voters in Seemandhra prefered Jagan Mohan Reddy as PM, better than Chandrababu (3 per cent), Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi (1 per cent each).
After modi.. Jagan PM candidate ga kavalanta SA vallaki ..lol |
Saarang
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Jackjill:AP lo Modi wave ekkada undhi, assembly ki musti 1% vote, lok sabha ki 7%, ee numbers chooskoni wave anta wave, endho le
Evaraina Bob ki koncham cheppandayya, asale recent joinings tho seat allocation kastam malli alliance kooda ante fenta fenta avutadhi
I said this in the past and I am saying now that I strongly oppose alliance with BJP.
Bob ilaanti visayam lo baagane calculate chestaadu le...that is one of his strengths...don't under-estimate him. |
Saarang
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Onlytruth:
CSDS-CNN_IBN survey sample size is less. but numbers are very realistic...both T lo SA lo last 3 rounds kalipi chusthe..
Vallaki idhi kottha kaadule...their statisticians know what is a sufficient sample size. |
Newguy123
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Jackjill:I dont get it, konni pockets lo avasaram leni help avutindhi ani alliance aa, ponile tight fight ante adhi kooda kaadu
last time 10-20 seats slight margin thi vodipoleda? atuvantidi malli rakudadani ee alliances gola.. alliances lekunda kuda gelavachu.. kaani 100% guarantee leduga.. endku chance teesukotam ani..babu ki chance teesukune luxury ledu eesari.. |
Jackjill
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Newguy123:overall ga ante statewide ga chusukunte BJP % takkuva kanipinchochu.. kaani konni constituencies lo effect vuntadi baaga, especially urban voting districts lo..
I dont get it, konni pockets lo avasaram leni help avutindhi ani alliance aa, ponile tight fight ante adhi kooda kaadu
Anyway,Numbers do not reflect any impact of MODI or BJP in Andhra Pradesh and I don't see any value in Pre poll alliance with BJP. |
Newguy123
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Jackjill:ante TDP tho alliance unte BJP vote share perutundhaa?? what's your point?
overall ga ante statewide ga chusukunte BJP % takkuva kanipinchochu.. kaani konni constituencies lo effect vuntadi baaga, especially urban voting districts lo.. |
Jackjill
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Newguy123:
avi alliance lekapothe numbers.. alliance vunte neutral voters monilize ayye avakasam vundi
evariki mobilize avuthaaru, ayyi em chestaaru, ante TDP tho alliance unte BJP vote share perutundhaa?? what's your point? |
Newguy123
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Jackjill:AP lo Modi wave ekkada undhi, assembly ki musti 1% vote, lok sabha ki 7%
avi alliance lekapothe numbers.. alliance vunte neutral voters monilize ayye avakasam vundi |
Jackjill
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Ilaanti numbers choosina taruvaatha kooda inkaa alliance endhuku aa BJP tho
http://eenadu.net/Homeinner.aspx?item=break162
AP lo Modi wave ekkada undhi, assembly ki musti 1% vote, lok sabha ki 7%, ee numbers chooskoni wave anta wave, endho le
Evaraina Bob ki koncham cheppandayya, asale recent joinings tho seat allocation kastam malli alliance kooda ante fenta fenta avutadhi
I said this in the past and I am saying now that I strongly oppose alliance with BJP. |
Taurus0807
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Onlytruth:
Fighting May 7th dhaka chesi relax avvandi andharu. |
Onlytruth
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if muncipolls also favor tdp, then only i will be confident
till then keep fighting |
Onlytruth
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NTV survey sample size is great, but the numbers are highly suspicious - forged ani fans ke anipinchenta la unnayi...always their timing raises dbl suspicion
CSDS-CNN_IBN survey sample size is less. but numbers are very realistic...both T lo SA lo last 3 rounds kalipi chusthe.. |
Taurus0807
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Marocharitra:Interestingly, 4 per cent of voters in Seemandhra prefered Jagan Mohan Reddy as PM, better than Chandrababu (3 per cent), Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi (1 per cent each
TDP CBN fans anthaa Modi ni opt chesaaru le PM gaa. Jagan fans ki Jagan ni ekanga PM chesedham ani planning kadha. |
Marocharitra
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Onlytruth:http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140401/nation-politics/articl e/telugu-desam-bjp-surges-ahead-jagan-reddy-seemandhra-surve y
comedy ni dexxxx
"Interestingly, 4 per cent of voters in Seemandhra prefered Jagan Mohan Reddy as PM, better than Chandrababu (3 per cent), Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi (1 per cent each)."
JP_Rocks to OT:send babu face chuste seppachu parama corrupted ani, siggu lekunda nuvvu support seyatledu? Neekenduku evathi corrupt aite? Nuvvemanna jp supporter va |
Onlytruth
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Pplsuck:the state split issue, all his rallies were muted.....and his intentions behind united AP cannot be trusted........such a feeble effort for split issue anipistundi..........kanti tudupu charya gaa chesaadu rallies or some noises..........
janatha swachchandamgaa participate chesaaru split issue lo.............he cud have done wonders with such people's favorite issue............
correct, aa point lo naakemi ardham kaledhu jagan.. |
Pplsuck
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Jagan's untied AP slogans and commitment for that cause can be definitely questioned......
odarpu ki huge rallies.........elections ki huge rallies.......split issue maathram tu tu manthram rallies........ |
Saint
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Sarvabhouma_rao:
PRP vachakkaa. Not before PRP. PK idee chebuthunnadu. Chiru ee bad ki reason kabatti nuvvu eppudu voppukovu.
PRP = Rosyaa Taatha
iddaru half cooked (prepared) vallani consideration loki tesukuntee state ilaa M ayyindhi. Period.
losers ante lose ayyaka excuses/DLMs seppukunta bathike vallu
winners ante..cheppi thodal kotti winning sese vallu!
now u know which category u fall in! for me YSR is a winner..neeku PRP ane excuse kanipinchindi anthe.! |
Onlytruth
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Flip side of this survey is very less # of sample size
But , point entante last two polls lonu same sample size valladhi...and July 13, jan 14 llo jagan was ahead |
Pplsuck
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Onlytruth:jagans odarpu yatra
that is just a side show......real reasons are to keep among the people......
but the only thing is...........Jagan cud arrange such huge rallies for Odarpu Yatra............but for the state split issue, all his rallies were muted.....and his intentions behind united AP cannot be trusted........such a feeble effort for split issue anipistundi..........kanti tudupu charya gaa chesaadu rallies or some noises..........
janatha swachchandamgaa participate chesaaru split issue lo.............he cud have done wonders with such people's favorite issue............
it just seems that every single politician along with Jagan were not in favor of united AP.......... |
Onlytruth
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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140401/nation-politics/articl e/telugu-desam-bjp-surges-ahead-jagan-reddy-seemandhra-surve y |
Diviseema
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jagans odarpu yatra is danda yatra on human intelligence. janam ni VP lu ani namminollu thappa aa pani inkevvaru cheyyaleru. and he successfully made people idiots.
jacket meeda mahesh,
chokka meeda balayya
Gundello NTR
Naranarallo Paritala |
Diviseema
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Pplsuck:anyways for all moral preachers like Divi,
moral preaching aa bokka . i never criticised jagans corruption . it didn't bother me .
naaku chiraku theppinchindhi odarpu yatra. i couldn't take it. what kind of man he is. its the funniest thing i have ever seen in indian politics.
jacket meeda mahesh,
chokka meeda balayya
Gundello NTR
Naranarallo Paritala |
Newguy123
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Pplsuck:what happened to Guri, Ravino
india trip.. ravino ground situation report chestannad appudappud |
Sarvabhouma_rao
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Saint:2009 lo janam lo satisfactions levels
PRP vachakkaa. Not before PRP. PK idee chebuthunnadu. Chiru ee bad ki reason kabatti nuvvu eppudu voppukovu.
PRP = Rosyaa Taatha
iddaru half cooked (prepared) vallani consideration loki tesukuntee state ilaa M ayyindhi. Period.
Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga |
Pplsuck
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what happened to Guri, Ravino and other YSRCPians?
any fights in DB? |
Sarvabhouma_rao
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I think go with topic discussion. Coolmac post chusi Pat on back cheddam anni vesaaa anthee. Thread deviate avvakundaa survey meedha discuss cheyandi. sorry for deviating the thread. we can discuss this any other thread.
Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga |
Saint
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Sarvabhouma_rao:
haha baavi loo kaadhi PK last one month nunchi chebuthunnadu. PRP (Chiru) laa nenu edavani kaadhu naa own chuskodaniki. No split of the votes and do not encourage unworthy ppl like jagan. PK style loo gatti gaa kotti cheppinaa inkaa baavi antavu enti? Nuvvu aa baavi loo nunchi bayatiki raaa.
nee bavilo nuvvudu....if it was head-on elections...congress wud have got more seats.!
2009 lo janam lo satisfactions levels chala high lo vunnayi! |
Taurus0807
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Saint:D/D factor peak ki ellaledu! anti-kamma factor peak ki ellindi...becoz of athi done by TTs
2005-2006 nunchi anukunta D/D factor peak ki ellidni....
Especially colleges lo chesina hadavudi valla vahcindhi. Babu Ks kanna BCs ke ekkuva support chesaadu political gaa. |
Saint
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Siloan:
anti-kamma ki reason CBN aithe kaadhu ani septunna
yes...CBN reason ani nenu seppaledu kada maava? TTs atyutsaham, TTs over oka region lo anti ayyela chesindi...
but CBN meeda +ve vutne avanni lite avuthayi (ippudu inattu)..CBN meedhe vunna anti yee TDP loss ki reason 2004 lo! |
Pplsuck
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24 x 7 cbn ni vyatirekinche nee nunche ilanti posts vasthoo unte, DB lo trendz AP lo reflect aithe...... Jagan ni aapagalamu
adhi charitraka avasaram kuda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
nuvvu maree early gaa celebrate chesukuntunnaavemo..........that was just anecdotal...........it may not reflect the real underlying truth..........
just that sentiment is there ani cheptunnaa............
anyways for all moral preachers like Divi, if I were there I would still vote for Jagan.......given CBN is on the other side.........
anyways, good luck to you guys.....JP, PK, BJP has given a shot in the arm to TTs..........
but I wish and hope Jagan wins.......... |
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Saint:baavi lo anukuntunnara ala ani?
haha baavi loo kaadhi PK last one month nunchi chebuthunnadu. PRP (Chiru) laa nenu edavani kaadhu naa own chuskodaniki. No split of the votes and do not encourage unworthy ppl like jagan. PK style loo gatti gaa kotti cheppinaa inkaa baavi antavu enti? Nuvvu aa baavi loo nunchi bayatiki raaa.
Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga |
Siloan
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Saint:D/D factor peak ki ellaledu! anti-kamma factor peak ki ellindi...becoz of athi done by TTs
2005-2006 nunchi anukunta D/D factor peak ki ellidni....
agreed....
anti-kamma ki reason CBN aithe kaadhu ani septunna |
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Sarvabhouma_rao:
99-2004 loo period check cheyyi. D/D (in fact others) loo feeling aa time lone peak vellindhi. YSR time loo extreme chusindhi.
D/D factor peak ki ellaledu! anti-kamma factor peak ki ellindi...becoz of athi done by TTs
2005-2006 nunchi anukunta D/D factor peak ki ellidni.... |
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Siloan:mama...asalu babu eppudu TT's ki nuvvu anukune encouragement ichhadu?
99-2004 loo period check cheyyi. D/D (in fact others) loo feeling aa time lone peak vellindhi. YSR time loo extreme chusindhi.
Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga |
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Siloan:mama...asalu babu eppudu TT's ki nuvvu anukune encouragement ichhadu?
hard core kammas ...babu ni kukka dobbuledataaru e vishayam lo...
Idhi ture. kaani kondharu teliyana pillalu chese hadavudiki ala bad name vachindhi. |
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Sarvabhouma_rao: last time results kudaa YSR yokka chrishma valla kaddhu gelichindhi PRP lanti party vachhi confuse cheyadam valla.
baavi lo anukuntunnara ala ani? |
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Sarvabhouma_rao:Babu ee saru TTs ni encourage cheyadu ani nammuthunna.
mama...asalu babu eppudu TT's ki nuvvu anukune encouragement ichhadu?
hard core kammas ...babu ni kukka dobbuledataaru e vishayam lo... |
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Coolmac:Repu CBN CM ayithe equations valana kaadhu... Develop chestaadu ane nammakam thone avuthaadu... kulaanni ippatiki ayinaa nammukovatam maanadi..lekapothe malli Bench entho dooram vundadhu
development chesthee eppudu ayinaa avaksam isthaaru. Manishi anee avvadu individualgaa chusthee negitive waves vuntayi. adhee whole gorup gaa chusthee postive waves vuntayi. last time results kudaa YSR yokka chrishma valla kaddhu gelichindhi PRP lanti party vachhi confuse cheyadam valla. Ippudu jagan chesina avineethi 2004-2009 lo chesindhi. 2009- 2014 loo chesindhi kaadhu. appdu kudaa idee range loo kumme vaaru kaani janalu dani gurinchi matlade avaksam lekundaa chesaaru.
D/D sodarulu kudaa normal thinking ki vachhi Jana jevan sravanthi loo kalisthe better. TTs bad vall habits malli venkkki techukokuntee better. Babu ee saru TTs ni encourage cheyadu ani nammuthunna. Babu knows what is IMP and what is not IMP.
Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga |
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Diviseema:T lo TDP ki 13% ante badha ga vundhi. SA kanna strong ga vundedhi. gabbu lepi padadobbaru tdp ni. Congi planned worrked out here.
ee elections lo Congress gelisthe T lo next ki malli TDP strong avuthundhi. Harish Rao tho saha andharu join avuthaaru. |
Adaviramudu
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Thelegend:who's leading
Jagan |
Thelegend
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bottom line enti
who's leading |
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