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     Ringo_rangaswamy Side Hero Username: Ringo_rangaswamy Post Number: 6999 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 162.134.72.5 Rating: N/A |
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| Bza Junior Artist Username: Bza Post Number: 199 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 68.170.91.103 Rating: N/A |
Common man has to travel 10yrs to a different state??? Mana capital manam 1yr lopal set chesukovali. Otherwise we are screwed!!! | ||
| All_day Junior Artist Username: All_day Post Number: 816 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 107.0.27.252 Rating: N/A |
ok SA people have 10 years time to pump and dump assets in HYD. Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself - FDR | ||
| Jackson Hero Username: Jackson Post Number: 12798 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 171.159.194.10 Rating: N/A |
overall ga bongu boshanam tappa emi ledhu aa 38 amendments lo anni munduga discuss chesinave ... | ||
| Kukatpally Side Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 6845 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
///10 yrs patu jobs,study lo ippudunna rules ye untayi anta 2 states ki common ga.....inkenduku division 10 yrs taruvata division chesukoka..... hey cool kada... aa 10 yr business and money diversion ayithe baguntadi SA lo cities ki anyway separate govt vuntadi kaabati vaala area meeda focus pedatharu anukuntunna to get projects | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 6527 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
10 yrs patu jobs,study lo ippudunna rules ye untayi anta 2 states ki common ga.....inkenduku division 10 yrs taruvata division chesukoka.....  i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
| Jackson Hero Username: Jackson Post Number: 12797 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 171.159.194.10 Rating: N/A |
idhi morning ee telsu kadha mama.. ... | ||
| Kukatpally Side Hero Username: Kukatpally Post Number: 6843 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 57.69.14.65 Rating: N/A |
ee 10 yrs capital sharing pulihora vunda... sachindi gore... ee penta inka continue avuthune vuntadi janalu kottuku sastune vuntaru | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 134373 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 69.25.144.254 Rating: N/A |
Ohh the amendment i posted was DEFEATED by Voice vote so, 10 yrs common capital holds good | ||
| Jalsa Megastar Username: Jalsa Post Number: 20777 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.53.110.141 Rating: N/A |
//.next year chalo chalo // next year enti? aa clause lo "till the formation of new capital" annaaru ga...adhi ippatlo complete avvadhu anukunta. | ||
| Rediff Junior Artist Username: Rediff Post Number: 125 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 172.2.9.233 Rating: N/A |
save as cheyandi .. save avuthunnay ventane .. | ||
| Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 134372 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 69.25.144.254 Rating: N/A |
HYD 10 years common capital kuda kaadhu ga.....next year chalo chalo Page 2, line 37,-- for âfor such period not exceeding 10 years.â substitute âtill the new capital for the State of Andhra Pradesh is readyâ. (39) Page 2, line 38,-- for âAfter expiry of the period referred to in sub-section (1)â substitute âAfter the new capital for the State of Andhra Pradesh is readyâ | ||
| Ballasticmissile Side Hero Username: Ballasticmissile Post Number: 6526 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 125.99.197.136 Rating: N/A |
DR. G. VIVEKANAND (PEDDAPALLY): Nehru said Natkat Ladka Masoom Ladki. He was right. Despite 1 st SRC recommending against the merger, Andhra was merged into Telangana. The Gentlemenâs agreement, Mulki rules and three safeguards for âTelanganaâ people were flouted and Telangana was discriminated against. When Nagarjuna Sagar dam was was envisaged, it was envisaged that water would be distributed equally to both regions â 10 lakh acres. However, Dr. Rao changed designs and today the irrigated area in Seemandhra is more than in Telangana. It has gone upto 15 lakhs in Andhra reduced in T to 7 lakh acres. The Bachawat awarded 811 TMC to Andhra Pradesh, 298 TMC to âTelanganaââ. Projects without CWC sanction were constructed in Seemandhra with an alibi of surplus waters and projects in âTelanganaâ were ignored. An attempt to usurp an allocated 298 TMC has begun and the Seemandhra are apprehensive that division of the State will halve their efforts to enrich themselves at the cost of Telangana. Mulki Rules were flouted and when Supreme Court upheld the Mulki rules, Seemandhras launched Jai Andhra agitations and ensured that their safeguards were scrapped. However, the Presidential Order of 1975 to protect employment opportunities were flouted and as per the Commission appointed by NT Rama Rao 59,000 jobs which were due to âTelanganaâ were taken by Seemandhra. Singareni collieries mined 55 million tones of coal. Thermal projects require coal and water. âTelanganaâ has Godavari water and Singareni coal. But Seemandhra set up 1700 mega watt Thermal project in Vijayawada and 600 watts in Cuddapah and 1500 watts at Singareni. We lost 10,000 jobs and are now a power deficit State despite resources availability in Telangana. * Laid on the Table 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 327 Despite losing jobs which were due to us, we are now have the ignominy of having to pay Pensions as per the GOM recommendations of Pensions based on population rather than on nationality There was a demand that a High Court should be established in Guntur for several years. I would request the House to accept their demand and initiate steps to set up the High Court in Guntur immediately. There is an impression that Hyderabad is developed by Seemandhra. Before merger, Hyderabad had their own Secretariat, the High Court, the Railway Station, the Electricity Company, the Deccan aviation etc. and the most important and valuable asset was its culture. Hyderabad warmth, courtesies and cosmopolitan culture attracted people from all over the country. The Srikrishna Commission confirmed that 78 out of 97 inhabitants in Hyderabad during the last decade were from outside. Srikrishna also confirmed that only 7% of Hyderabad population are from Seemandhra. There was an inquiry by CBI into Emmar land issue. Due to 78 illegal allotments made, only one belonged to âTelanganaâ vindicating our assertion of discrimination in all fields including corruption. Seemandhra was ruled for 52 out of 58 years where is the question of justice to Seemandhra? It should actually be the other way round. In 2000, when Shri Advani was the Home Minister, Bihar and Uttar Pradesh Re-organisation Bills were introduced and passed in the Parliament. Pepper spray incident clearly shows what kind of suppression to âTelanganaâ people have been living in? They sacrificed 1600 lives to achieve separation and Seemandhra MPs say that âTelanganaâ wanted to assault them. This is a mockery of democracy and all parties irrespective of their affiliation on this âTelanganaâ issue should condemn this pepper spray in no uncertain terms so that the prestige and honour of âParliamentâ is protected. Thanks Mrs Sonia Gandhi in helping to pass the Seemandhra this Bill. (ends) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 328 MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat the Bill to provide for the reorganization of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh and for matters connected therewith, be taken into consideration. â The motion was adopted. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKAER: The House will now take up clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill. The question is: âThat clause 2 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 2 was added to the Bill. Clause 3 Amendment made: Page 2, line 29, for âKhammamâ, substitute âKhammam (but excluding the revenue villages in the Mandals specified in G.O. Ms. No. 111 Irrigation & CAD (LA-IV-R&R-I) Department, dated the 27 th June, 2005 and the revenue villages of Bhurgampadu, Seetharamanagaram and Kondreka in Bhurgampadu Mandal)â. (1) (Shri Sushil Kumar Shinde) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 3, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 3, as amended, was added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: If you want to take part in it, please go back to your seats. ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 329 MADAM SPEAKER: Go back to your seats. Whatever you say in the Well, will not be taken into consideration. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 4 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 4 was added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) SHRI T.R. BAALU (SRIPERUMBUDUR): Madam, this is not the way to proceed to pass the Bill for creation of State. This is against the federal principles and State autonomy. In protest, we are walking out. 1524 hours (At this stage, Shri T.R. Baalu and some other hon. Members left the House.) ⦠( Interruptions ) Clause 5 MADAM SPEAKER: Prof. Saugata Roy to move Amendment Nos. 39 and 40. PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Madam, I beg to move:- Page 2, line 37,-- for âfor such period not exceeding 10 years.â substitute âtill the new capital for the State of Andhra Pradesh is readyâ. (39) Page 2, line 38,-- for âAfter expiry of the period referred to in sub-section (1)â substitute âAfter the new capital for the State of Andhra Pradesh is readyâ. (40) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 330 MADAM SPEAKER: I shall now put Amendment Nos. 39 and 40 to Clause 5 moved by Prof. Saugata Roy to the vote of the House. ⦠( Interruptions ) PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Madam, I want division... ( Interruptions ) (m1/1525/mmn-hcb) ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, in my opinion the Division is being unnecessarily claimed. Therefore, under proviso to sub-rule (3) of the Rule 367, I am going to direct the Members who are for âAyeâ and those who are for âNoâ to rise in their places and, on a count being taken, I shall declare the determination of the House. Members who are not in their places will not be considered for the purpose of the count. Hon. Members who are for âAyeâ may rise in their places. Yes, all those who are for âAyesâ, please rise in their places. ⦠( Interruptions ) PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Madam, I want Division. MADAM SPEAKER: Yes, for Division, I have called for a count. PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Madam, I want a Division. Under no rule can you waive the Division? I want a Division. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members who are not in their places will not be considered for the purpose of the count. Hon. Members, I am saying it again. I am saying it again that if you are not in your place, you will not be considered for the purpose of the count. So, if you want to be counted, please go back to your place. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, those who are for âNoâ may rise in their places. ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 331 (n1/1530/vr/mm) MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, âNoesâ are more than âAyesâ. Ayes 29; Noes 230. The motion was negatived. MADAM SPEAKER: Shri Asaduddin Owaisi, are you moving your Amendment No.44? SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): Madam, I beg to move: Page 2, for lines 35 to 43,- substitute â5. (1) On and from the appointed day, the city of Hyderabad in the existing State of Andhra Pradesh shall be the capital of the State of Telangana and Khairatabad revenue mandal area in the city of Hyderabad shall be the interim capital of the State of Andhra Pradesh for a period not exceeding two years. (2) After expiry of the period referred to in sub- section (1) Hyderabad shall be the sole capital of the State of Telangana and there shall be a new capital for the State of Andhra Pradesh.â. (44) Madam, I request you to kindly give me 30 seconds to explain as to why I am moving this amendment. And, that is because, Madam, there is no precedent in the whole of the country wherein one capital is located in the other State capital. This is an obnoxious experiment done by the Government. Constitutionally, it is not acceptable. ⦠( Interruptions ) Madam Speaker, let me point out to you that Hyderabad is a part of Telangana. You are creating a common capital of Andhra Pradesh in Hyderabad, and that too is GHMC area. I do not know where is the self-esteem of Telangana Congress leaders, who are accepting such an obnoxious proposal wherein Hyderabad will be destroyed forever, Madam Speaker. I would ask for a division at the appropriate time. Thank you. ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 332 MADAM SPEAKER: Now, I shall put amendment No.44 moved by Shri Asaduddin Owaisi to the vote of the House. SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): Madam, I want a division. MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I am of the opinion that the division is being unnecessarily claimed. Therefore, under proviso of the sub-Rule (3) of the Rule 367, I am going to direct the Members, who are for âAyeâ and those who are for âNoâ to rise in their places and, on a count being taken, I shall declare the determination of the House. Members, who are not in their places, will not be considered for the purpose of count. Hon. Members, those who are for âAyeâ, may rise in their places. All right. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, those who are for âNoâ may rise in their places. ⦠( Interruptions ) (o1/1535/kvj-rv) MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I find âAyesâ 6; âNoesâ 235. The amendment is negatived. The amendment was put and negatived. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 5 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 5 was added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) Clause 6 Amendment made: Page 3, line 3, for âforty-five daysâ, substitute âsix monthsâ. (2) (Shri Sushil Kumar Shinde) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 333 MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 6, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 6, as amended, was added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) Clause 7 PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): I beg to move: âPage 3, line 7, - for âfor such period as may be determined by the Presidentâ. substitute âtill the new capital for the State of Andhra Pradesh is ready.â.â While moving the amendment, I protest against the way you are counting the heads asking us to stand up. We are not sheep. There is a button in front of us. If we want, we are asking for division on the amendments. This is not the way you deal with amendments. You cannot just count the head by asking us to stand up. We are not sheep. ⦠( Interruptions ) It was the wrong way in which you introduced the Bill. Again, this is happening. Please do it in a proper, constitutional way to pass the Bill. ⦠(Interruptions ) I want a division and not the head count. In the same wrong way the Bill was introduced and you are again doing the same thing. This should not happen in the House. This is setting a wrong precedent for posterity. We are opposed to division of Andhra Pradesh. We are opposed to division of any State. It violates the principle of linguistic State. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: As far as voting on this amendment is concerned, nothing is violated. ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 334 1537 hours (At this stage, Shri Sharad Yadav and some other hon. Members left the House.) ⦠( Interruptions ) PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Andhra Pradesh was created to have one State for Telugu people. Now, on what basis are you dividing the same State? Are you destroying the basis of linguistic State? That is why, we wanted a discussion. You finished the discussion. Now you are taking head count on amendments. This is not the way it should be done. Have a proper debate and decide on these amendments according to rules, not according to whatever that anybody may tell you.⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is that amendment No.41, moved by Shri Saugata Roy, be adopted. The amendment was put and negatived. PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): I want a division.⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: Shri Saugata Roy, this is perfectly under the rule. It is under Sub-rule (3) of Rule 367. It is not outside the rule; it is within the rule. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: I know. But, this is within the rules. PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): This is not the way. They are advising you wrongly. We are not sheep that heads be counted. ⦠( Interruptions ) (p/1540/san-sb) â¦(Interruptions) MADAM SPEAKER: There is an Amendment No. 45 to Clause 7 to be moved by Shri Asaduddin Owaisi. Are you moving your amendment? 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 335 SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): Yes. I beg to move: Page 3, for lines 5 to 7,-- substitute ââOn and from the appointed day, the Governor of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh shall be the Governor for the successor State of Andhra Pradesh and there shall be separate Governor for the State of Telangana.". (45) Madam Speaker, nowhere in the Constitution of ours, in the last 66 years, has there been a common Governor for two States. There has been a Governor Incharge of another States. So, this is ultra vires . This is unconstitutional. You are creating a super Governor. Why can the people of Telangana not have their own Governor? Why can you not trust the people of Telangana? ⦠( Interruptions ) Why do you not trust the people who are going to govern Telangana? How can you have one Governor for two States? Therefore, I move this amendment and ask for a division on this amendment. ⦠( Interruptions ) 1541 hours (At this stage, Shri Sansuma Khunggur Bwiswmuthiary went back to his seat.) MADAM SPEAKER: I will put the amendment moved by Shri Owaisi to the vote of the House. ⦠( Interruptions ) SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): Madam, I want a division. Let there be a headcount. ⦠( Interruptions ) 1542 hours (At this stage, Shri Sansuma Khunggur Bwiswmuthiary came and stood near the Table. ) MADAM SPEAKER: Let us have a headcount. ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 336 MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: Page 3, for lines 5 to 7,-- substitute ââOn and from the appointed day, the Governor of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh shall be the Governor for the successor State of Andhra Pradesh and there shall be separate Governor for the State of Telangana.". Now, those in favour will please rise in their placesâ Now, those against will please rise in their placesâ I see a large number against. Ayes: 24; Noes 169. The motion is negatived. The motion was negatived. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 7 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 7 was added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) Clause 8 MADAM SPEAKER: There is an Amendment No. 42 to Clause 8 to be moved by Prof. Saugata Roy. Are you moving your amendment? PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Madam, I beg to move: Page 3, lines 8 to 11,â substitute â â8. (1) The responsibility of the Governor shall consist of looking after lawâ. (42) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 337 Madam, while moving the amendment, I may again mention Rule 367(3)(a) which reads: âIf the opinion of the Speaker as to the decision of a question is challenged, he shall order that the Lobby be cleared.â Then, the issue should be put to question. Now, we are challenging your determination. That is why, we want vote count. As it is, our party is opposed to the division of Andhra Pradesh. It will create fissiparous tendencies throughout the country, demand for more States. What is happening today is inimical to the interest of India. The idea that is India is being challenged by the present Government by getting to divide one of the biggest States. ⦠( Interruptions ) You shut up. ⦠( Interruptions ) The oneness of India is being challenged. That is why, Madam, I move my amendment. 1544 hours (At this stage, Shri Sansuma Khunggur Bwiswmuthiary went back to his seat.) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: Page 3, lines 8 to 11,â substitute â â8. (1) The responsibility of the Governor shall consist of looking after lawâ. ⦠( Interruptions ) (q1/1545/ak-mkg) PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Madam, we want Division. ⦠(Interruptions ) SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): No, Madam, we want Division. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: All right, we will take a count. . ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 338 MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, in my opinion, the Division is being unnecessarily claimed. Therefore, under proviso of sub-rule 3 of Rule 367, I am going to direct the Members who are for âAyeâ and those for âNoâ respectively to rise in their places and, on a count being taken, I shall declare the determination of the House. The Members who are not in their places will not be considered for the purpose of a count. ⦠( Interruptions ) 1546 hours (At this stage, Shri Sansuma Khunggur Bwiswmuthiary came and stood near the Table. ) MADAM SPEAKER: Now, those in favour will please rise in their places. All right. Those against may please rise in their placesâ âAyes: 169; âNoesâ : Nil. The motion was negatived. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 8 stand part of the Bill. The motion was adopted. Clause 8 was added to the Bill. Clauses 9 to 14 were added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) Clause 15 Amendments made: Page 4, line 29, for â15â, substitute â15.(1)â. (3) Page 4, after line 31, insert â â(2) The Election Commission may conduct the elections to the House of the People and the Legislative Assemblies of the 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 339 successor States of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana as per the allocation of seats specified in the Delimitation of Parliamentary and Assembly Constituencies Order, 2008 as amended by this Act.â. (4) (Shri Sushilkumar Shinde) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 15, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 15, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clause 16 was added to the Bill. Clause 17 Amendments made: Page 4, omit lines 42 to 45. (5) Page 5, for lines 1 to 7, substituteâ â(2) In the Second Schedule to the Representation of the People Act, 1950, under the heading âI. STATES:ââ (a) for entry 1, the following entry shall be substituted, namely:â 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 â1. Andhra Pradesh 294 39 15 175 29 7â. (b) entries 25 to 28 shall be renumbered as entries 26 to 29 respectively; (c) after entry 24, the following entry shall be inserted, namely:â 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 â25. Telangana -- -- -- 119 19 12â. (6) (Shri Sushilkumar Shinde) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 340 MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 17, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 17, as amended, was added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) Motion Re: Suspension of Rule 80(i) SHRI SUSHILKUMAR SHINDE: Madam, I beg to move: âThat this House do suspend clause (i) of rule 80 of Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha in so far as it requires that an amendment shall be within the scope of the Bill and relevant to the subject matter of the clause to which it relates, in its application to the Government amendment No. 7 to the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, 2014, and that this amendment may be allowed to be moved.â MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat this House do suspend clause (i) of rule 80 of Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha in so far as it requires that an amendment shall be within the scope of the Bill and relevant to the subject matter of the clause to which it relates, in its application to the Government amendment No. 7 to the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, 2014, and that this amendment may be allowed to be moved.â The motion was adopted. ⦠( Interruptions ) New Clause 17A Amendment made: Page 5, after line 7, insertâ â17A. Notwithstanding anything in sub-section (1), the Governor of the State may nominate one member each to the Legislative Assemblies of the successor States to give representation to the Anglo-Indian Representation of the Anglo Indian community. 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 341 community in accordance with article 333 of the Constitution.â. (7) (Shri Sushilkumar Shinde) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat new clause 17A be added to the Billâ. The motion was adopted. New clause 17A was added to the Bill. ⦠( Interruptions ) (r1/1550/sh-cp) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat new clause 17A be added to the Bill.â The motion was adopted. New clause 17A was added to the Bill. Clause 18 Amendment made: Page 5, line 13, omit âprovisionalâ. (8) (Shri Sushil Kumar Shinde) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 18, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 18, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clause 19 MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 19 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was negatived. MADAM SPEAKER: Clause 19 is dropped from the Bill. 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 342 Clause 20 Amendment made: Page 5, line 40, omit âprovisionalâ. (9) (Shri Sushil Kumar Shinde) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 20, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 20, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clause 21 Amendments made: Page 5, for lines 44 to 48, substituteâ â21. (1) The person who immediately before the appointed day is the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh shall continue to be the Speaker of that Assembly on and from that day and the members of that Assembly shall choose from amongst the members of the Assembly, a member to be the Deputy Speaker of that Assembly. (2) As soon as may be after the appointed day, the Deputy Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh shall become the Deputy Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of the successor State of Telangana and until the Speaker is chosen by that Assembly, the duties of the office of the Speaker shall be performed by the Deputy Speaker so appointed. (3) The rules of procedure and conduct of business of the Legislative Assembly of Andhra Pradesh as in force immediately before the appointed day shall, until rules are made under clause (1) of article 208, be the rules of procedure and conduct of business of the Legislative Assembly of Telangana, subject to such modifications and adaptations as may be made Speaker, Deputy Speaker, and rules of procedure 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 343 therein by the Speaker thereof.â. (10) Page 6, omit lines 1 to 3. (11) (Shri Sushilkumar Shinde) MADAM CHAIRMAN: The question is: âThat clause 21, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 21, as amended, was added to the Bill. MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 22 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was negatived. Clause 23 Amendment made: Page 6, for lines 10 to 18, substituteâ â22. (1) There shall be constituted a Legislative Council for each of the successor States consisting of not more than 50 members in the Legislative Council of Andhra Pradesh and 40 members in the Legislative Council of Telangana in accordance with the provisions contained in article 169 of the Constitution. (2) The existing Legislative Council of the State of Andhra Pradesh shall, on and from the appointed day, be deemed to have been constituted as two Legislative Councils of the successor States and the existing members shall be allotted to the Councils as specified in the Fourth Schedule.â. (12) Legislative Council for successor States. (Shri Sushil Kumar Sh inde ) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 23, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 23, as amended, was added to the Bill. 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 344 Clause 24 Amendment made: Page 6, for lines 19 and 20, substituteâ â23. (1) On and from the appointed day, there shall be 50 seats in the Legislative Council of Andhra Pradesh and 40 seats in the Legislative Council of Telangana, respectively.â. (13) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 24, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 24, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clause 25 Amendment made: Page 6, for lines 39 and 40, substituteâ â24. (1) On and from the appointed day, the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Andhra Pradesh) Order, 2006 shall stand amended as directed in Part I of the Third Schedule. (2) On and from the appointed day, the Delimitation of Council Constituencies (Telangana) Order, 2014, as specified in Part II of the Third Schedule shall apply to the successor State of Telangana. (3) The Central Government may, in consultation with the successor States of Andhra Pradesh or as the case may be, Telangana, by notification in the Official Gazette amend the Third Schedule.â. (14) Amendment of Delimitation of Council Constituencies Order. (Shri Sushil Kumar Shinde) Provisions as to Legislative Councils. 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 345 MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 25, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 25, as amended, was added to the Bill. (s1/1555/smn/raj) Clause 26 Amendment made: Page 7, for lines 1 to 3, substituteâ â25. (1) The person who immediately before the appointed day is the Chairman of the Legislative Council of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh shall continue to be the Chairman of that Council on and from that day and the members of that Council shall choose from amongst the members of the Council, a member to be the Deputy Chairman of that Council. (2) As soon as may be after the appointed day, the Deputy Chairman of the Legislative Council of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh shall become the Deputy Chairman of the Legislative Council of the successor State of Telangana and until the Chairman is chosen by that Council, the duties of the office of the Chairman shall be performed by the Deputy Chairman so appointed. (3) The rules of procedure and conduct of business of the Legislative Council of Andhra Pradesh as in force immediately before the appointed day shall, until rules are made under clause (1) of article 208, be the rules of procedure and conduct of business of the Legislative Council of Telangana, subject to such modifications and adaptations as may be made therein by the Chairman thereof.â. (15) (Shri Sushilkumar Shinde) Chairman, Deputy Chairman and rules of procedure 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 346 MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 26, as amended, stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 26, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clause 27 Amendment made: Page 7, for lines 5 and 6, substituteâ â26. (1) Subject to the provisions contained in article 170 of the Constitution and without prejudice to section 15 of this Act, the number of seats in the Legislative Assembly of the successor States of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana shall be increased from 175 and 119 to 225 and 153 respectively, and delimitation of the constituencies may be determined by the Election Commission in the manner hereinafter providedâ". (16) (Shri Sushilkumar Shinde) MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: âThat clause 27, as amended, stand part of the Bill. â The motion was adopted. Clause 27, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clauses 28 to 31 were added to the Bill. Clause 32 MADAM SPEAKER: Shri Asaduddin Owaisi, are you moving your Amendment No. 46 to Clause 32? SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): I beg to move: Page 8, for lines 32 to 35,â substitute ââ32. (1) On and from the appointed day, there shall be a separate High Court for the State of Telangana (hereinafter referred to as the High Court of Hyderabad) and the existing High Court of Judicature of Andhra Pradesh shall become the High Court for the residuary State of Andhra Pradesh (hereinafter referred to as the Andhra Pradesh High Court).". (46) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 347 Madam, the reason being that there is a virtual divide between the Bar and Bench on regional lines and the riser State should have their own High Court. It is very unfortunate that the Government which is creating a Telangana State is not creating a Telangana High Court. What will happen to the aspiring Advocates of Telangana region? Why cannot the Government create this? It is the job of the Executive to create a High Court and giving of Judges is the job of Judiciary. By not doing this, you are giving a truncated Telangana which will have an adverse effect on all the budding lawyers of Telangana. Madam Speaker, tomorrow the lawyers will be moving the writs in the court. For every small moving, stay will be given. It is in the fitness of things that the Government accept my Amendment and create a separate Telangana High Court for the State of Telangana. MADAM SPEAKER: I shall now put Amendment 46 to Clause 32 moved by Shri Asadudin Owaisi to the vote of the House. The amendment was put and negatived. MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: â That clause 32 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 32 was added to the Bill. Clause 33 MADAM SPEAKER: Shri Asaduddin Owaisi, are you moving your Amendment NO. 47 to Clause 33? SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): I beg to move: Page 9, for lines 1 to 8,â substitute ââ33. (1) Such of the Judges of the existing Andhra Pradesh High Court holding office immediately before the date of establishment of the High Court of Hyderabad (Telangana), as may be determined by the President, shall, from that date, cease to be Judges of the Andhra Pradesh High Court at Hyderabad and become Judges of the High Court of Andhra Pradesh and the High Court of Hyderbad (Telangana). 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 348 (2) The persons who by virtue of sub-section (1) become Judges of the High Court of Andhra Pradesh and the High Court of Hyderabad (Telangana) shall, except in 2 the case where any such person is appointed to be the Chief Justice of that High Court, rank in that Court according to the priority of their respective appointments as Judges of the Andhra Pradesh High Court before the appointed date.". (47) Madam, The judges of Andhra Pradesh have to be allotted to the respective High Courts of Hyderabad on the basis of nativity. If you are not creating the High Court, if you do not allot judges on the basis of nativity, you are not ensuring fairplay with the people of Telangana. That is why, I accept and hope that for fairplay and for justice to be done, let this Amendment of mine be accepted. I am asking for head count. You have not accepted the head count in the last Amendment. MADAM SPEAKER: I shall now put Amendment 47 to Clause 33 moved by Shri Asadudin Owaisi to the vote of the House. The amendment was put and negatived. MADAM SPEAKER: The question is: â That clause 33 stand part of the Bill.â The motion was adopted. Clause 33 was added to the Bill. Clauses 34 to 46 were added to the Bill. Clause 47 Amendment made: Page 11 for lines 42 to 44, substituteâ "Provided that on the appointed day, the President shall make a reference to the Fourteenth Finance Commission to take into account the resources available to the successor States and make separate awards for each of the successor States. (2) Notwithstanding anything in sub-section (1), the Central Government may, having regard to the resources available to the successor State of Andhra Pradesh, make appropriate grants and also ensure that adequate 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 349 benefits and incentives in the form of special development package are given to the backward areas of that State. (3) the Central Government shall, while considering the special development package for the successor State of Andhra Pradesh, provide adequate incentives, in particular for Rayalseema and north coastal regions of that State.". (17) (Shri Sushilkumar Shinde) MADAM SPEAKER: Prof. Saugata Roy, are you moving your Amendment No. 43 to Clause 47? PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): I beg to move: Page 11, line 41, omit âand other parametersâ. (43) I am moving my Amendment but I want to reiterate that we are against the Division of Andhra Pradesh. 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*PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Our Party is against the Bill and division of Andhra Pradesh. It was created as a unilingual State after the death of Sriramula due to hunger strike. The creation of Telangana will destroy the basis of formation of States on linguistic basis. It will give rise for creation of more States and divisive tendencies. It will create total break down of law and order. When the matter of Hyderabad is not resolved satisfactorily, how can a city be a Capital of two States? Chandigarh is a Union Territory. The new State of Andhra Pradesh should be adequately compensated with regard to new Capital and other irrigation projects. Maoists are a big problem which needs to be tackled. i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
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THE MINISTER OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AND MINISTER OF EARTH SCIENCES (SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY): Madam, remember, it is a demand that has been raised recurrently for the last 60 years.⦠( Interruptions ) (k1/1515/lh-gg) Therefore, I do not think any demand for a separate State in the history of the country has had such long duration and a tense feeling. ⦠( Interruptions ) Today, on this extremely pious and joyous occasion, we are all finding ourselves amidst the scenes of disorder is something that is surprising and painful. ⦠(Interruptions ) May I tell you, friends, hon. Members, this demand was conceived by UPA as early as in 2004 when the Common Manifesto of UPA was formed. It was also committed in the Presidentâs Address delivered in 2004. ⦠( Interruptions ) I am asking Andhra friends as to what they were doing. ⦠( Interruptions ) Were they sleeping like kumbakarna s all these years? I want to tell you ⦠( Interruptions ) Therefore, I wish to tell Sushmaji, while thanking her for the opening lines of support, that she should not be finding any situation to blame the Congress Party. The Congress Party has been preparing the ground for this grand occasion. ⦠( Interruptions ) You are saying that they are doing it to score points on the eve of election. May I recall, Madam, that the decision for Telangana was taken on 9 th December, 2009. ⦠( Interruptions ) Was there election at that time? What were the Ministers from the Seemandhra Region in the UPA Government doing? Did they protest? Why are you now finding it so exped`ent to protest? ⦠(Interruptions ) BJP has been supporting the demand for Telangana for the last 45 years. I may tell the House that I was first elected in 1969 under âtwo bullocksâ symbol. I am one of those original Congressmen. ⦠( Interruptions ) May I tell you that the Telangana agitation was started in 1969. The BJPâs previous incarnation 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 309 Bharatiya Jan Sangh supported Telangana then. It is supposed to be supporting all along. ⦠( Interruptions ) When I hear the dissenting voice of Advani ji, an elder statesman not only of the BJP but also of the country, I am shocked. ⦠(Interruptions ) Therefore, at any rate I am grateful to Shrimati Sushma ji at least at a personal level for her opening lines of support. ⦠( Interruptions ) I wish to congratulate the Communist Party of India which originally stood for integrated State, which is today running a newspaper called â Vishalandhraâ yet is supporting the Telangana demand. ⦠( Interruptions ) All this wonderful achievement today has been made possible because of the resolve and commitment of one person, one lady, that is, Mrs. Sonia Gandhi. ⦠( Interruptions ) I have worked with Sonia Gandhi ji so intimately for the last 15 years. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: All right. Shri Jaipal Reddy ji, please conclude now. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: She is global in her outlook. She can never be against the interests of the people of Seemandhra region. ⦠( Interruptions ) (l/1520/kkd/cs) I wish to say here on behalf of the people of Telangana, we shall not, in a separate Telangana State, discriminate against any person of Seemandhra Region. MADAM SPEAKER: All right. Okay. Please conclude. ⦠( Interruptions ) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: We know full well, at the end of the day, we are all Telugu people. We are all Indians. At the end of the day, we are all governed by the Indian Constitution⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: Jaipal Reddy-ji, please conclude. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: All right. Thank you so much. ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 310 SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : On this occasion, I would like to reiterate my thanks to Madam Sonia Gandhi, and I want to assure the people of Seemandhra Region that on the day, if anybody will be discriminated against in Hyderabad City, I would be the first to bow my head.⦠( Interruptions ) I am not going to last forever. For the period, which is still spared for me, I shall commit myself to the protection of friends of Seemandhra Region. Thank you very much. (ends) MADAM SPEAKER: Thank you so much. ⦠( Interruptions ) MADAM SPEAKER: All those who want to speak, please lay your written speeches on the Table. Now, I will proceed. ⦠( Interruptions ) 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 311 * SHRI SANSUMA KHUNGGUR BWISWMUTHIARY (KOKRAJHAR): Respected Madam Speaker, I rise to support the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, 2014 and I thank the Government for bringing this Bill in the House. At the same time, I do strongly urge upon the Union Government through you to take similar decision and political move to help create the much long awaited separate State of Bodoland too,. to help ensure the question of survival, existence, safety and security of the Bodo people and others; and also for their overall development so that the people of Bodoland State too, can live in equal dignity and honour at par with the rest of the country. On this historic auspicious occasion, I do warmly congratulate all the people of Telangana State on your having been able to get the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, 2014 passed in the Lok Sabha on 18 th February, 2014 and at the same time. I also do appeal to you all to extend your un-equivocal support and co-operation to the people of Bodoland Area in the matter of getting their Statehood demand too granted i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. 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MADAM SPEAKER: Shri Sushil Kumar Shinde to continue. ⦠( Interruptions ) 1500 hours THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI SUSHILKUMAR SHINDE): Madam, this Bill seeks to meet the democratic aspirations of the people of Telangana region by reorganizing the existing State of Andhra Pradesh into two separate States of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana. I would like to reassure the Members of this House that we have tried our best to accommodate the concerns of all the stakeholders and mitigate the impact of the bifurcation of the State as much as possible⦠( Interruptions ) I can say with justifiable pride that we had invited and received suggestions from the entire cross-section of the Andhra Pradesh society and every suggestion had been evaluated and dealt with appropriately when the Bill was being prepared. The draft Bill prepared was referred by the hon. President to the Andhra Pradesh State Legislature for giving their views within 23 rd January 2014. At the request of the State Government an extension of seven days was given and 30 th January 18.02.2014 Uncorrected / Not for Publication 304 2014 was fixed as the deadline. After receiving the views of the State Legislature, we also received numerous suggestions from various quarters. These have been considered and examined by the Government. Amendments formulated on the basis of these suggestions are also being brought before this august House for kind consideration⦠( Interruptions ) The Bill considers all aspects of governance for both the successor States and necessary supplemental and incidental provisions relating to representation in Parliament and in the State Legislatures, distribution of revenues, apportionment of assets and liabilities, management and development of water resources, power and natural resources, ensuring peace and harmony, address the development needs of backward regions and other matters⦠( Interruptions ) The proposals contained in the Bill have been finalized in consultation with the Ministries of Finance, Law and Justice, Power, Water Resources, Civil Aviation, Shipping, Road Transport and Highways, Human Resource Development, Health & Family Welfare, Coal, Petroleum and Natural Gas, Social Justice and Empowerment, Tribal Affairs, Railways, Department of Personnel and Training, Planning Commission and the Election Commission⦠( Interruptions ) With these words, Madam, I commend the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill 2014 to this august House for consideration and passing. MADAM SPEAKER: Motion moved: âThat the Bill to provide for the reorganization of the existing State of Andhra Pradesh and for matters connected therewith be taken into consideration.â i am leading a pious life so far so good new_user:Please, dont brng brand Mahesh into this discussion. BMW ki 50k pay chestunnarani, Chevy kooda anthe demand chesthe, ela? | ||
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