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Jp_rocks
Moderator Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 16408 Registered: 06-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 12:39 pm: |
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Shikari:ee madhye Balagopal rasina prachina bharata desa charitra konna..an intro to Kosambi annattu...inka chadavaledhu.you can buy it online too http://kinige.com/kbook.php?id=778&name=Prachina+Bharatadesa +Charitra
yep chinna book, actual ga nenu chadivindi ide - DA RA HA SAM ante thed ki response raadani true translation into english Ipc302: what everybody forgets is our rural, tribal culture is far older than the current hindu idealogy....it has now become a crime to question anything that they consider a hindu mythology...if u say hindus used to eat beef...they say no..who knows what has happened
well said bro, great post book chadiveka tribal kurrolla devulla meeda sudden interest kaligindi..just because those gods and rituals are older than most vindu gods but vindus didn't try to kill 'em or destroy their culture..they added their goddesses & animals to vindu culture ani seppaad kosaambi |
   
Shikari
Hero Username: Shikari
Post Number: 13739 Registered: 03-2010 Posted From: 49.207.160.217
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 12:04 pm: |
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ee madhye Balagopal rasina prachina bharata desa charitra konna..an intro to Kosambi annattu...inka chadavaledhu.you can buy it online too http://kinige.com/kbook.php?id=778&name=Prachina+Bharatadesa +Charitra http://i.imgur.com/eUYcc.gif |
   
Lichtenberg
Junior Artist Username: Lichtenberg
Post Number: 403 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 162.115.236.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 12:03 pm: |
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a sample of how textbooks are "cleansed" by Arun Shourie http://arunshourie.voiceofdharma.com/articles/hogwash.htm |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 18511 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:54 am: |
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Lichtenberg:i agree...but there are two things missing here.... 1)left vaallu raasedi bias ani oppukoru.....and veellu raasinave mostly used in our school history books 2)historiographers or social commentators in india criticize books with a rightist view....but not the leftist ones......so they kind of give credence to the leftist ones..... if everyoe agress there is bias in writing history, there wont; be a problem......entha sepatiki media lo saffronization ani gole kaani I see very little criticism of leftist books.......
the social commentators are nothing but people witha left wing bias......well there is a severe intolerance among left wing historians to anything that goes against their narrative...unfortunately we have the same history as part of our curriculum and are being brain washed with babar the brave, akbar the great stories...history is a very complex part of our mankind and as such we will not be able to come to a compromise on many issues.... bottomline is we will have historians who will be intolerant to everything that does toe the official lin |
   
Lichtenberg
Junior Artist Username: Lichtenberg
Post Number: 400 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 162.115.108.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:49 am: |
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Ipc302:ee both the letist and right wing historians write with an agenda....leftists paint a rosy picture of islamic invasion and blame the hindu religion for all the social ills....right wing valla problem is painting indian culture with a simple brush.... what everyhttp://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/icons/quote3.gifbody forgets is our rural, tribal culture is far older than the current hindu idealogy....it has now become a crime to question anything that they consider a hindu mythology
i agree...but there are two things missing here.... 1)left vaallu raasedi bias ani oppukoru.....and veellu raasinave mostly used in our school history books 2)historiographers or social commentators in india criticize books with a rightist view....but not the leftist ones......so they kind of give credence to the leftist ones..... if everyoe agress there is bias in writing history, there wont; be a problem......entha sepatiki media lo saffronization ani gole kaani I see very little criticism of leftist books....... |
   
Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 9057 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.192.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:46 am: |
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Jp_rocks: meeru ekkada koochomante akkada koochuntam..
'nenu cheppinde vinaali' anadam ledu. Asalu History books mida depend avvadam waste anutunnaa. aa rojullo manam lemu. okkokkadu okkoti raasthaadu.Manam decide cheyyalemu.'Yi roju situation yenti? ikakda nunchi munduku yelaa velalli' anedi thisukonte saripothundi..
Jp_rocks:aiiyyooo ippudippude mana sanaathana sampradayam meeda koddiga grip dorukutondi
Okadu cheppindi vini 'grip dorikindi'anukonnavu.inkakdu cheppedi chadavgaane'ayyo.." antunnavu. ni daggare intha conflict vundi.conflict ane kanna, 'helplessness' ane baaguntudni anukonta.. |
   
Ruj
Hero Username: Ruj
Post Number: 11618 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.222.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:42 am: |
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Jp_rocks:mana maha bharatham etc lo ki appatlo purohitulu AATAVIKA devullu like amma devathalani, janthuvulni cherchi assimilate chesaranta kada
idhekadi bussu india needs to get rid of sickular-bans..sickular-bans suck |
   
Lichtenberg
Junior Artist Username: Lichtenberg
Post Number: 398 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 162.115.44.101
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:38 am: |
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jp_rocks, see your quotes in this thread.......aryan-invasion theory...it's a given for them.....did kosambi try to justify why he he believes in AIT? they believe in the theory and start from there basis of aryan invasion theory is only philology.....just language....nothing else........ this is only one problem with these historians....there are other issues.....aa time lo world motham marx/socialism/mao adee idee ani oo ooge vaallu world anthaa.......we are still hanging on to the books written by these bullshitters |
   
Ipc302
Moderator Username: Ipc302
Post Number: 18509 Registered: 02-2008
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:37 am: |
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Jp_rocks:mana bonaal pandaga, grama devathal bali samskaralu etc ivanni desam lo ABORIGINAL/INDIAN aatavika sampradayal anta..
see both the letist and right wing historians write with an agenda....leftists paint a rosy picture of islamic invasion and blame the hindu religion for all the social ills....right wing valla problem is painting indian culture with a simple brush.... what everybody forgets is our rural, tribal culture is far older than the current hindu idealogy....it has now become a crime to question anything that they consider a hindu mythology...if u say hindus used to eat beef...they say no..who knows what has happened we are being painted with a pan hindu idealogy which is not consistent with the local hindu culture... i am including adaivasi beliefs in this tooo... now ram janmabhoomi has become a national issue...may be it is for some people not all...maa oorlo ramalayam lene ledhu till 1980s...all we has was a local graama devatha and oka sivalayam...vizak elthe kanakamahalaksmi temple untundhi...u cannot attribute a single ideology to indian society/history or anything for that matter...we are pluralistic for good or bad |
   
Sarvabhouma_rao
Side Hero Username: Sarvabhouma_rao
Post Number: 6051 Registered: 04-2011 Posted From: 199.248.185.22
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:33 am: |
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Lichtenberg:sumit sarkar, iran habib, kosambi, romila thapar etc etc.........bhayyaa ee marxist gaallu raasina vistory sadivithe matte neeku....
chusss eepost koncham mundhu vesi vundalsindhi. konni creativity posts vachhi vundevi  Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga |
   
Jp_rocks
Moderator Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 16407 Registered: 06-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:29 am: |
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Lichtenberg:sumit sarkar, iran habib, kosambi, romila thapar etc etc.........bhayyaa ee marxist gaallu raasina vistory sadivithe matte neeku....
avunu bhayya veellu vaaalle, kakapote valla vaadana lo point undi anipichindi naku book lo 90% B bashing undi..at the same time budhism ni other religions ni ethuthuu unnad, BUT mana janatha konta mandi kurrollani soodrulu ani cheppi varga vibhajana chesi valla kashtam tho veella vilasam cheyadam koddi ibbandikaramaina vishayam |
   
Jp_rocks
Moderator Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 16406 Registered: 06-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:26 am: |
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basically, kosaaambi point entante (which made perfect sense to me), desam lo cultural continuity ni batti vistory seppaaali ani mana bonaal pandaga, grama devathal bali samskaralu etc ivanni desam lo ABORIGINAL/INDIAN aatavika sampradayal anta.. |
   
Lichtenberg
Junior Artist Username: Lichtenberg
Post Number: 397 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 162.115.108.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:24 am: |
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sumit sarkar, iran habib, kosambi, romila thapar etc etc.........bhayyaa ee marxist gaallu raasina vistory sadivithe matte neeku.... |
   
Jp_rocks
Moderator Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 16405 Registered: 06-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:24 am: |
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Kalikaalam:Niku maatram yetalaa thelusu? History ante ne biased. yevadi ki thochindi vaadu raasthaadu. oka book ni base chesukoni inkoka book ni wrong ani yetlaa antaavu?
wrong analedu peddaayanaa, meeru ekkada koochomante akkada koochuntam..this is the very first book that I've read on indian vistory..... anyways, aaryulu originally pasu poshakulu kaada? hindu mathaanni brahmana matham anevaranta kada..mana maha bharatham etc lo ki appatlo purohitulu AATAVIKA devullu like amma devathalani, janthuvulni cherchi assimilate chesaranta kada aiiyyooo ippudippude mana sanaathana sampradayam meeda koddiga grip dorukutondi anna time lo ee book ichad oka peddayana.. |
   
Kalikaalam
Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 9055 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:13 am: |
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Jp_rocks:aaryulu ante pasu poshakulu ani telsa?
Niku maatram yetalaa thelusu? History ante ne biased. yevadi ki thochindi vaadu raasthaadu. oka book ni base chesukoni inkoka book ni wrong ani yetlaa antaavu? Yevaru raasindi right anedi manaku theliyadu.Niku 'convincing' gaa anipinchindi nuvvu nammmuthaavu.Avathala valla ku anukulam gaa vunandi vallu nammutaaru. rendu nammkaala madhya godavalu. TRUTH maatram yevari ki theliyadu.Tthelise avakaasma kudaa ledu.. |
   
Jp_rocks
Moderator Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 16404 Registered: 06-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:06 am: |
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aaryulu ante pasu poshakulu ani telsa? mana ashton kurrodi hype chusi greek veerullu anukunna.. |
   
Jp_rocks
Moderator Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 16403 Registered: 06-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 11:04 am: |
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chadivaaaraa evaraina? mana devullani history ni baaanee aadukunnattu unnaaru konta mandi vargaalu... |