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condolences to karan and sharukh.. lovely pair ya



I hope they are put in same jail cell
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condolences to karan and sharukh.. lovely pair ya
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Bongaram:

musey.. consenting of adults ante incest ok na? parallel cousin marriages are illegal in many US states, the so called 1st world we try to mimic. konni states lo cross cousin marriages also illegal.

even in India lo kooda u cant register a marriage if it is not allowed in the 'community' that u r in. for eg. in south cross cousins ni pelli chesukovachu. kani konni communities for eg. marwaris lo illegal.

so, dont talk as if consent is all it is enough. then adultery kooda illegal kaadu




Excellent points..

but, is incest illegal in India? (Its not illegal in USA as far as I know).Incest marriage is illegal..same logic prakaram being gay can be legal and gay-marriage can be illegal? kadha?
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Is there a precedence to this action? Has the supreme court passed the buck to the parliament like this, before?
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Thokkalohdi:

o matter what government does, it cannot stop people from having •••••••. so, it's better it accepts reality and make it a law.





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Bongaram:

We need to draw a line at some point. cant allow everything in the name of individualism.




cannot allow ourselves to be ruled by century old laws which were written by some guy from england....u have to accept certain things even though you are not part of that group and u dont accept it...

Thokkalohdi:

so, it's better it accepts reality and make it a law. anyways, if it's Ls and rs that need to make the law so b it.




mana parliament lo antha scene ledhu...SC shah bano case lo divorced muslim women ki alimony ivvamante special rule pass sesindhi muslim women act ani seppi....they will not pass any law making article 377 invalid...atleast hope they can pass laws which will help in promoting safe sex among LGBT by granting funds or giving equal property rights to same sex couples
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it is stupidity if court doesn't accept ground reality. it's like cricket betting. No matter what government does, it cannot stop people from having . so, it's better it accepts reality and make it a law. anyways, if it's Ls and rs that need to make the law so b it.
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Ipc302:

common benefit ane seppi muslims ki polygamy allow chestharu...is it OK for one religion to have laws according to their common benefit...


bigamy is crime in muslims too.

A worst thing should not be a precedence or justification for a bad thing. We need to draw a line at some point. cant allow everything in the name of individualism.


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.uniform civil code vundali..color/caste/ni batti law marakudadu..


question those liberals or feminist preachers on alimony and spl rights for women? would they concede law should be independent of gender?
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good for desam
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Saint:

ade gada...uniform civil code vundali..color/caste/ni batti law marakudadu..




adhe kadha sexual orientation kooda equal under the law undali...every legal consenting adult should be treated equally irrespective of color/caste/sexual/religious preferences
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common benefit ane seppi muslims ki polygamy allow chestharu...is it OK for one religion to have laws according to their common benefit...absolutely not




ade gada...uniform civil code vundali..color/caste/ni batti law marakudadu..
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Bongaram:

u ignored the 'common benefit' thingy in my post.




common benefit ane seppi muslims ki polygamy allow chestharu...is it OK for one religion to have laws according to their common benefit...absolutely not
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Like SC/ST/woman law lekka

gay panuluy try chesthe case eyyocha?
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Khajuraho Sculptures lo saganiki sagam chekkindi evaro





Krishnudu jambavathi ni pelli cheskunnadu kabatti mana society lo andaroo adavullonchi gorillas ni thecchi pelli cheskomantava?

Chaalle saami, society lo konni aarogyam kosam yettaru sootralu. Freedom, human rights ani annitiki denkabedutunnaru yedavalu.

What Supreme Court did is correct.
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I neither support nor oppose....

pitchi vundatam human right kaadu....ala ani law violation kadoooo....

gay avvatam kooda basic human right kaadu ala ani law voilation kaadu...
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J__the_heartist:

SEC 377 - Being Gay is Illegal in India


Good job SC!
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Ipc302:

criminalising ••••••• will lead to more men being closeted gays who end up marrying women and continuing the so called illegal lifestyle...



Bongaram:

it can save many youngsters and amateur adults from sodomy


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Ipc302:

social practice also encourages untouchability in some places...so should it be OK
Khap panchayats want to lynch lower caste people for marrying with upper caste...should it be OK then


u ignored the 'common benefit' thingy in my post.

civil law's most rudimentary precept is good is to be done and pursued and evil is to be avoided.
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Ruj:




ruj bhayya..christians, muslims lo opposition enduku ante valla valla devudu adhi tappani seppadu ani septharu...manaki telsu devudu perutho crusades, jihads, slaughtering of innocent people in india, south america, africa konni centuries ga...so the belief that it is sin against god just doesnt make it illegal

inka mana vallu emo this is a western disease being foisted upon our society anukuntaru...i might be wrong but have our old texts said anything against being gay...the images on our temples are so much contradictory to the western morality or idea of sex...
if you look carefully a lot of christian beliefs are in opposition to those Roman times where they felt such behavior was against gods....other religions were considered pagan....worshipping idols was pagan....even sex had to be missionary....kiki....anduke kadha missionaries vacchi manalni enlighten seddamu ani anukunnaru....

every law that we follow these days is based on british system and that is stupidity
infact having oral sex can also be grounds for imprisonment because it does not involve procreation....ala ante mana desam entha mandi jail lo undala....
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http://devdutt.com/articles/mahabharata/on-krishnas-chariot- stands-shikhandi.html
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Ipc302:

yes everytime teens wants to have SeX they will think oh article 377 and stop doing it...underage drinking, prostitution are all illegal but has it stopped teens from doing such things...law doesnt stop us from doing anything that we want to commit

most of these laws are based on victorian era christian preachings....they dont have a place in this era and not in our society....nobody is forcing us to become gay or we will not become gay because it is legal...it asks us to be tolerant...right to dignity is a hallmark of any society...

criminalising ••••••• will lead to more men being closeted gays who end up marrying women and continuing the so called illegal lifestyle...
u cannot sweep this problem under the rug....




hmm point ee..
india needs to get rid of sickular-bans..sickular-bans suck
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Bongaram:

it is respecting the social practice for a 'common' benefit.




social practice also encourages untouchability in some places...so should it be OK
Khap panchayats want to lynch lower caste people for marrying with upper caste...should it be OK then

Bongaram:

ala alochiste the verdict is welcoming. it can save many youngsters and amateur adults from sodomy




yes everytime teens wants to have SeX they will think oh article 377 and stop doing it...underage drinking, prostitution are all illegal but has it stopped teens from doing such things...law doesnt stop us from doing anything that we want to commit

most of these laws are based on victorian era christian preachings....they dont have a place in this era and not in our society....nobody is forcing us to become gay or we will not become gay because it is legal...it asks us to be tolerant...right to dignity is a hallmark of any society...

criminalising will lead to more men being closeted gays who end up marrying women and continuing the so called illegal lifestyle...
u cannot sweep this problem under the rug....
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but oka vidhamga alochisthe population taggutundhi emo..:D
india needs to get rid of sickular-bans..sickular-bans suck
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J__the_heartist:

Incest nu Unnatural ante No problem



Bongaram:

leave laws to the prerogative of govt. can u define incest 1st? for eg. take cross cousins.konni states/communities lo allow chestaru..koonitlo cheyyaru. can u explain any logic that tells it is unnatural? more than this natural or unnatural thingy, it is respecting the social practice for a 'common' benefit. ala alochiste the verdict is welcoming. it can save many youngsters and amateur adults from sodomy



Bongaram:

musey.. consenting of adults ante incest ok na? parallel cousin marriages are illegal in many US states, the so called 1st world we try to mimic. konni states lo cross cousin marriages also illegal.




nice posts bongaraii...chala over react avuthunaru janalu..

repu US lanti countrieslo incest ok ante..idhe batch indialo kooda cheyali lekapothe darunam antu oogutharu..

india needs to get rid of sickular-bans..sickular-bans suck
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Bongaram:

then helmets & contraceptives ni ban cheyyala?




If u r Dubai sheik like JTH and can afford 100s of kids, yes.
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What is basic rule of nature....reproduction....and it's unnatural relation which doesn't satisfy this basic rule


then helmets & contraceptives ni ban cheyyala? :D
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Bi aithe OK na vuncle. ??




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Bangarappa:

avuna...ante ippudu Shah Rukh lanti lawbreakers ni jail lo veyali kadha...




Legal aid and protection to such people is different...there is a difference between illegal and unnatural.....I am stating my opinion that it is unnatural.....
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What is basic rule of nature....reproduction....and it's unnatural relation which doesn't satisfy this basic rule


Bi aithe OK na vuncle. ??
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avuna...ante ippudu Shah Rukh lanti lawbreakers ni jail lo veyali kadha...


andaru kalisi adataniki idhi yemaina holy pandaga ?
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What is basic rule of nature....reproduction....and it's unnatural relation which doesn't satisfy this basic rule
Always be yourself. Because an original is worth more than a copy.
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Ikkada Topic Gay's paina Incest paina kadu....


nee tenki. i am drawing analogy for ur consent of adults logic
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It is unnatural man....otherwise there won't be women and men in this universe...there could have been only men or only women....making it legalise is altogether a different issue as people with different mindset also should have free will to live here....




being gay is Not by Choice.... it comes by birth.... people are tend to attract to same sex from childhood only and it is completely natural....
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It is unnatural man



Ramzan mein 'Ram' Hote hai.... Aur Diwali mein 'Ali'....
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Ikkada Topic Gay's paina Incest paina kadu....
Ramzan mein 'Ram' Hote hai.... Aur Diwali mein 'Ali'....
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Incest nu Unnatural ante No problem Complete gay Community ne Adedo Disease ga choostene papam....




It is unnatural man....otherwise there won't be women and men in this universe...there could have been only men or only women....making it legalise is altogether a different issue as people with different mindset also should have free will to live here....
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SRK's KJO's anta....

mari Khajuraho Sculptures lo saganiki sagam chekkindi evaro????
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Incest nu Unnatural ante No problem Complete gay Community ne Adedo Disease ga choostene papam....


leave laws to the prerogative of govt. can u define incest 1st? for eg. take cross cousins.konni states/communities lo allow chestaru..koonitlo cheyyaru. can u explain any logic that tells it is unnatural? more than this natural or unnatural thingy, it is respecting the social practice for a 'common' benefit. ala alochiste the verdict is welcoming. it can save many youngsters and amateur adults from sodomy
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Section 377 was introduced into IPC at Pre-independence era...at that time it was illegal across the world as SRKs and KJs were not born at that time. And it was never amended. Hence the judgement based on IPC section and the amendment needs parliament approval.....

SC dint say it has problems with it. It just based its ruling as per IPC.
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Bongaram:

consenting of adults ante incest ok na?




Incest nu Unnatural ante No problem Complete gay Community ne Adedo Disease ga choostene papam....
Ramzan mein 'Ram' Hote hai.... Aur Diwali mein 'Ali'....
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What two consenting adults does in their private life is not matter of religion its about equal rights of living with dignity....


musey.. consenting of adults ante incest ok na? parallel cousin marriages are illegal in many US states, the so called 1st world we try to mimic. konni states lo cross cousin marriages also illegal.

even in India lo kooda u cant register a marriage if it is not allowed in the 'community' that u r in. for eg. in south cross cousins ni pelli chesukovachu. kani konni communities for eg. marwaris lo illegal.

so, dont talk as if consent is all it is enough. then adultery kooda illegal kaadu
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SRGay ni ee Law tho ainaa bokka lo veyali if not for his Anti India work
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sharuk ki naa santaapam :D
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Ipc302:

teach safe sex for gays




true.
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sex and indians. nothing brings out our hypocrisy better. - Chetan Bhagat

#Sec377 is not just a violation of human rights but also makes democracy seem like a mirage in our country.... - KJO

I am most disappointed with this judgement. It feels very intolerant and violative of basic human rights. Its a shame. - Aamir Khan

We are calling our citizens criminals for doing something that is their fundamental birth right to do & is natural. Mera Bharat kahaan? Sad. - Siddharth

Hypocrites!! - Samantha
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Dma:

I dont think so. We can discuss this separately.




how can you get funds from the govt when u essentially supporting a criminal offense under article 377...a lot of groups cannot teach safe sex for gays because u are a criminal for accepting that u indulge in
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Ipc302:

decrimiinalising gay S#x will help in combating HIV among gay men...




I dont think so. We can discuss this separately.
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SC basically chickened out....they should have upheld Delhi HC judgement
after passing very law from red lights on cars to banning MPS MLAs now court wants parliament to pass this law...this is a most important matter in terms of dignity and the court just gave up....decrimiinalising gay S#x will help in combating HIV among gay men...
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I mean Seriously!

Homosexuality is not a Choice U Morons....

What two consenting adults does in their private life is not matter of religion its about equal rights of living with dignity....

And For all those who think that this judgement gives them a right to talk about their self appointed machoism...GET A LIFE!!!
Ramzan mein 'Ram' Hote hai.... Aur Diwali mein 'Ali'....

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