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ayane unte mangalodu enduku annattu..

desam lo sari ayina opposition ae unte..inni kashtalu enduku..

desam duradrushtam anthe..sari ayyina strong opposition eppudu ledu

absolute majority vachinappudu government ki chithashuddi ledu..

ippudu thummithe oodipoye governments vachinayi kabatti Lokpal tho pani nadipiyyali anthe..




ee absolute majority lu, ivanni chethakanithanam ki cover up anthe.

Biggest changes in India's politics ki reason aina JP ki unda absolute majority? Asalu oka seat unda parliament lo?
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Kakapothe Team Anna badulu opposition undali




ayane unte mangalodu enduku annattu..

desam lo sari ayina opposition ae unte..inni kashtalu enduku..

desam duradrushtam anthe..sari ayyina strong opposition eppudu ledu

absolute majority vachinappudu government ki chithashuddi ledu..

ippudu thummithe oodipoye governments vachinayi kabatti Lokpal tho pani nadipiyyali anthe..
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Kamal:

so post-lokpal swarna yuganiki naandi palikaara JP, team anna, central govt?




Swarna yugam aina, ithadi yugam aina, ye yugam ravali anna central Govt equation lo undalsinde, no other option, law making power vallade kanuka.

Kakapothe Team Anna badulu opposition undali, already mentioned the reasons why its not there.
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Sun period of India chart..lo definite gaa manchi defining changes vastayi ani naa nammakam..all the more..pro people untai..because Saturn will be exhaltation sign starting this November for 2 more years..which will make it a level playing field for haves and have nots..

so I am hopeful that the common man will be benefitted hugely from all this..



awesome ..
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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Kamal:

so post-lokpal swarna yuganiki naandi palikaara JP, team anna, central govt?




Sun period of India chart..lo definite gaa manchi defining changes vastayi ani naa nammakam..all the more..pro people untai..because Saturn will be exhaltation sign starting this November for 2 more years..which will make it a level playing field for haves and have nots..

so I am hopeful that the common man will be benefitted hugely from all this..
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so post-lokpal swarna yuganiki naandi palikaara JP, team anna, central govt?
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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Rajusk:

i agree with that point..but biscuit venakala kukkalu running type lo ...press vallu veellani oopiri peelchukoneevakapothe..they have to add a comment..and that gets twisted and printed ani anukontunna...




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Press push chestene edo oka comment ichetatlu aithe they are not fit to be in the committee.




i agree with that point..but biscuit venakala kukkalu running type lo ...press vallu veellani oopiri peelchukoneevakapothe..they have to add a comment..and that gets twisted and printed ani anukontunna...
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Just curious..how you managed to speak to her..i know she was here in the US also..was it then ?



Yes.

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But she has seen the Bureacracy and Political system from close quarters..so her comments might be from that background




Given her background, I was more surprised. It should be more clear to her that as long as politics are only about power, nothing is going to happen with Lokpal.
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When I spoke with Kiran Bedi and asked her why does not she join politics, get elected, and fight this within the constitution, she answered - "This is not about power. We are not for power".




Just curious..how you managed to speak to her..i know she was here in the US also..was it then ?

But she has seen the Bureacracy and Political system from close quarters..so her comments might be from that background
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Rajusk:

At the same time..press should not keep on pushing them to give some comments against the govt..when they are sitting and discussing..just for TRP sake..




Press push chestene edo oka comment ichetatlu aithe they are not fit to be in the committee. Unfortunately half of Team Anna is filled with people who do not know anything about law making, our constitution, or what this country actually needs.

When I spoke with Kiran Bedi and asked her why does not she join politics, get elected, and fight this within the constitution, she answered - "This is not about power. We are not for power".

Kiran Bedi ne politics is all about power anukunte, God bless India anukunna.
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for this. They respected Anna's image. Lekapothe Baba Ramdev ni treat chesinatlu cheyachu. You can see clearly that this attitude changed now.




Agree 100%..this is a good change on part of the Govt..I think historically Cong govt against gaa unna accusations are supporting corruption and sycophancy to the family..if they address the first..people will ignore the rest ani avidea emo



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Discussion inka table meeda unnappudu other party meeda evarina media lo negative comments chestara. Will that yield any fruitful result? Oka pakkana Govt tho meetings jargutunte Arvind Kejriwal comes out and tells the media that Govt. is cheating them, etc ,etc. Come on, Govt is not a foreign entity




Sudden Govt of India digivache sariki veellu kooda memu thopu thurum ani feeling ayyinatlu unnaru..anduke ishtam vachinatlu statements..this is the best that can ever happen for the country and their names will be remembered for good..for a long time..if they handle it well

At the same time..press should not keep on pushing them to give some comments against the govt..when they are sitting and discussing..just for TRP sake..
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CVC job ae anti corruption kabatti..they can be merged under Lokpal..veruga undi vallu feekedi emi undadu




merge avakapothe vachee nastam yenti? they can still take up these cases and investigate kada
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Rajusk:

i agree..konni maree comedy gaa unna kooda...somehow Govt has started to talk without taking the whole thing light..




You have to give the Govt the credit for this. They respected Anna's image. Lekapothe Baba Ramdev ni treat chesinatlu cheyachu. You can see clearly that this attitude changed now.

Discussion inka table meeda unnappudu other party meeda evarina media lo negative comments chestara. Will that yield any fruitful result? Oka pakkana Govt tho meetings jargutunte Arvind Kejriwal comes out and tells the media that Govt. is cheating them, etc ,etc. Come on, Govt is not a foreign entity.

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they all know..where the loopholes are..they can explicity start covering one at a time..




Majority of Team Anna have no idea of this. Except few like Santosh Hegde.
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vallu cover avvadam kaadu..merging under Lokpal..

or may be both dedicate a wing for Lokpal..because all cases in the country are not corruption cases..

so CBI can have a division which works for Lokpal ...and reports to lokpal on the progress of the cases..CVC job ae anti corruption kabatti..they can be merged under Lokpal..veruga undi vallu feekedi emi undadu
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Rajusk:

hopefully JP helps the government understand this and get these two under Lokpal..




yenti kottha law lo CBI/CVC lo pani chese vallu cover avvara, I dont think so raju garu, vallu kuda cover avutharu
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Unfortunately Team Anna kooda alage tayaravutundi. PM include cheyali ani mondi ga vellaru. Konni clauses aithe ridiculous at best.

They approached all of this with a prejudice, and a negative attitude towards the Govt, and without any understanding of our constitutional systems, and judiciary.




i agree..konni maree comedy gaa unna kooda...somehow Govt has started to talk without taking the whole thing light..

so ide avakasam ..to get something meaningful to benefit the common man..

they all know..where the loopholes are..they can explicity start covering one at a time..
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anduke kada vallani veella coverage loki kavali antunnadi..if you create another group under them for investigation..it is nothing but duplication of work..



they are asking for merger, they can still order enquiry from CBI and CVC and these guys will track cases anukunta

same way how Lokyutha works in state
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hopefully JP helps the government understand this and get these two under Lokpal..




Govt ki, opposition ki teliyaka kaadu. Kaani state level lo elections are max fought with corrupt black money. Anduke veshalu.

Unfortunately Team Anna kooda alage tayaravutundi. PM include cheyali ani mondi ga vellaru. Konni clauses aithe ridiculous at best.

They approached all of this with a prejudice, and a negative attitude towards the Govt, and without any understanding of our constitutional systems, and judiciary.
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yevaru ivvali powers?



State level lo cheyachu for individual states.

Lekapothe central level lo anni states ki uniform gaa law cheyachu.
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what machinary are they going to use for investigation? CBI and CVC?




anduke kada vallani veella coverage loki kavali antunnadi..if you create another group under them for investigation..it is nothing but duplication of work..

hopefully JP helps the government understand this and get these two under Lokpal..

otherwise it will be toothless tiger prowling around
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Lokayukta konchem gatti vaadu aithe konni states lo gola chesi ekkuva powers techukunnaru


yevaru ivvali powers?
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so ippudu vellu adguthunnadhi Lokayukta ni vellaki sub body ga cheymana? If so this is the biggest thing which they need to concentrate rather than beating around bushes for PM&Judicary




Yes, and give it more powers. Prastutam, Lokayukta konchem gatti vaadu aithe konni states lo gola chesi ekkuva powers techukunnaru, like Karnataka. States like AP lo Lokayukta naam ke vaaste type. Unna em cheyaledu, powers, logistics em undavu. Lokayukta ki kaneesam ACB meeda control lekunda em peekutadu?

Parliament lo MPs conduct ki Lokpal enti. Picha comedy. Asalu first start ayinappudu inka comedies unnayi JanLokpal lo, like Lokpal committe should include Nobel laureates, Magsasay awardees etc.

PM ki defense, foreign affairs, national security ilanti vatilo exempt chesi include cheskovachu.
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Lokpal unnadi central level


what machinary are they going to use for investigation? CBI and CVC?
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ippudu unnadi bagunte Jagan eepatiki jail lo undevadu.





Rajusk:

Lok Ayukta: The civil society wants the appointment of Lok Ayuktas, the ombudsmen in states, to be overseen by the Lokpal, which the government has struck down.




so ippudu vellu adguthunnadhi Lokayukta ni vellaki sub body ga cheymana? If so this is the biggest thing which they need to concentrate rather than beating around bushes for PM&Judicary
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Lokpal Jokepal avvataniki Govt okkate kaadu, Team Anna, kooda responsible. Opposition elago aata lo aratipandu ee issue lo first nundi.
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ippudu vunnavi state level lokayukta ne kada?




ippudu unnadi bagunte Jagan eepatiki jail lo undevadu.

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If new lokpal commitee doesnt look in to state level corruption then what it is going look into?




Lokpal unnadi central level, anni states lo, districts lo 1000s lo untayi corruption cases. Ela choostaru. Decentralization is needed.

State controlled departments lo, at the state level mechanism lekunda corruption control chestamu ante mosam cheyadame.
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State level Lokayukta lekunda veellani evaru em peekaleru. Why? Bcoz state Govt has all control on these offices, and state police. Railway TTs excluded.




ippudu vunnavi state level lokayukta ne kada?

If new lokpal commitee doesnt look in to state level corruption then what it is going look into?
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National Judicial Commission is already on its way. That will take care of judges.

Bcoz of lack of experience Team Anna put unnecessary emphasis on the PM. Lokayukta, and Ombudsman are more important. Govt. tho PM sangathi vadilestamu, Lokayukta, Ombudsman include cheyandi ani deal cheskovalsindi.

//The government has excluded the acts of MPs inside parliament and in parliamentary committees outside the Lokpal's purview//

Idi Lokpal lo include cheyadamenti, anthakante comedy ledu. I believe this is different form corruption of MPs. Prapancham lo anni problems ki Lokpal solution ante ela.
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I am looking for certain govt office for corruption in daily activities like mango ppl like me, avuthundha ledha seppandi

1. Railway TTs
2. MRO office for any certificates (birth, income, caste, ration card)
3. Muncipal corporation employees (housetax, water board, elctricty board)
4. Registration officers




State level Lokayukta lekunda veellani evaru em peekaleru. Why? Bcoz state Govt has all control on these offices, and state police. Railway TTs excluded.
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Big fish wickets padadam start aithe ..small fish automatic gaa sardukoni vallu vanchi pani sesthayi ani thinking anukonta..


define big fish, mare too big fishs ki velthunam PM & Judges

eelopu migathavi cover chesi, parliment lo ammend cheskovachu kada, let clean the system who are in range of above avg fishes like (commisioners, MLAs, MPs, Assistant Engineers, Assistant comminisoners, commisioners, police) etc
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I am looking for certain govt office for corruption in daily activities like mango ppl like me, avuthundha ledha seppandi




Big fish wickets padadam start aithe ..small fish automatic gaa sardukoni vallu vanchi pani sesthayi ani thinking anukonta..
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mari enduku cheyyalekapoyindi??? support unnappudu cheyyadam oka ardam .. support lekunda .. opposition MPs ni koni .. naana racha cheyyadam puranam kaadu itihaasam .. prajaswamya parihaasam ..


nee kothi logic seppi topic divert seyyaku, 2008 lo padipokunda vunandhu valle 2G jargindhi ante, N-bill pass avakapoyina 2G jargidhi, topic adhi kadu

Mps conduct is not a big issue rather than bigger objective
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em govt drop cheskoledha N-bill ni?



mari enduku cheyyalekapoyindi??? support unnappudu cheyyadam oka ardam .. support lekunda .. opposition MPs ni koni .. naana racha cheyyadam puranam kaadu itihaasam .. prajaswamya parihaasam ..
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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LOL yeah .. once in a life time ee .. 2008 lo aa bill ki people support leka govt padipovaali .. kaani padipoledu .. result is .. 2G loot carries un-interruptedly .. ika corrupt SC CJ valla desaniki jarigina damage gurinchi kanisam cheppanu kuda cheppalem ..




2008 lo padaledhu kabbati 2G ayindha? em govt drop cheskoledha N-bill ni? nee puranam apu inka, evaina upyogam vunnavi cheppu what to differ with
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I am looking for certain govt office for corruption in daily activities like mango ppl like me, avuthundha ledha seppandi

1. Railway TTs
2. MRO office for any certificates (birth, income, caste, ration card)
3. Muncipal corporation employees (housetax, water board, elctricty board)
4. Registration officers
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you are taking abt 1s in life time things happening, lets concentrate on bigger things, ee matram dhaniki jokepal aipoindha?



LOL yeah .. once in a life time ee .. 2008 lo aa bill ki people support leka govt padipovaali .. kaani padipoledu .. result is .. 2G loot carries un-interruptedly .. ika corrupt SC CJ valla desaniki jarigina damage gurinchi kanisam cheppanu kuda cheppalem ..

sample ki .. minorities ki reservation ippinchaadu Balakrishnan gadu .. some people should be removed .. just in time .. otherwise .. you have to stitch nine times .. !
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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Kamal:

monna 2008 nuclear deal lo .. MPs ni koni dobbar



Kamal:

SC judges and HC chief justices .. inka em judiciary ni Lokpal kindaki techinattu? mufisil court judge naa?

SC CJ ga unde gaa KG Balakrishnan gadu ala mesindi?




you are taking abt 1s in life time things happening, lets concentrate on bigger things, ee matram dhaniki jokepal aipoindha?
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Higher judiciary ante only SC lawyers yee kada? Thats Okay



kaadu .. SC judges and HC chief justices .. inka em judiciary ni Lokpal kindaki techinattu? mufisil court judge naa?

SC CJ ga unde gaa KG Balakrishnan gadu ala mesindi?
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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hmm whats the big deal in it? Just parliament lo acts ante yenti?



big deal enti ante .. monna 2008 nuclear deal lo .. MPs ni koni dobbaru .. kaani 3 and half years lo evadini prosecute cheyyaledu .. no MP was arrested .. oka BJP worker ni pattukuni .. 3 MPs ki 3 crores ichadu ani arrest chesi .. case closure disa gaaa adugulu vestunnaru .. speaker undi peekindi emi ledu .. alanti cases lo kanisam Lokpal aina use avutaadu ani Anna team vaadana .. now tell us if it is fair?
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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TitleGovt StandAnna TeramComments
Prime ministerThe civil society wants the prime minister to be under the Lokpal's ambit. The government has kept the prime minister out of the Lokpal's purview, but he/she can be probed after demitting office. Opposition parties too are opposed to keeping the prime minister out of the Lokpal's ambit.Fair enough on Govt stand
Higher judiciaryThe government has kept the higher judiciary out.The civil society wants the Lokpal to have powers to probe the higher judiciary, including judges of the Supreme Court.Higher judiciary ante only SC lawyers yee kada? Thats Okay
MPsThe government has excluded the acts of MPs inside parliament and in parliamentary committees outside the Lokpal's purviewOpposing ithmm whats the big deal in it? Just parliament lo acts ante yenti?
Lower bureaucracyonly officers of joint secretary level and above are covered under the Lokpal.he civil society wants the entire bureaucracy to come within the Lokpal's purview. Govt shud agree for all Babus
CBI and CVCNo for mergercivil society's proposal to merge the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and Central Vigilance Commission (CVC) with the Lokpal. What will happen if they are separate?
PunishmentThe government has capped the maximum punishment at 10 years. The civil society has proposed minimum one year rigorous imprisonment and maximum of life imprisonment for the corrupt100 Rs lancham ki 100 cr lancham ki okate siksha? May be edo formula workout cheskovachu kada
Lok AyuktaNoThe civil society wants the appointment of Lok Ayuktas, the ombudsmen in states, to be overseen by the LokpalFair enough on Anna Stmt

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only officers of joint secretary level




aapicers at the below mentioned levels cannot be investigated:

Additional Secretary
Secretary
Principal Secretary
Chief Secretary
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ee point koncham clear ga seppandi



cheppadaniki etundi .. oka level of government officers ne investigate cheyyagaladu Lokpal .. migilina vaallani vere agencies cheyyali .. so coordination leka as usual ga .. ekkada vesina gongali akkade ..
O mata okka banamu, maa siddantam .. poratam maaku pranamu, maa vedantam
joharu cheyyali lokam, maa joru chusaaka .. eenade!
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Lower bureaucracy: According to the government draft, only officers of joint secretary level and above are covered under the Lokpal. The civil society wants the entire bureaucracy to come within the Lokpal's purview.




ee point koncham clear ga seppandi
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.andukane rendu merging adigaru..otherwise malla ringa ringa roses continues to find the evidence



exactly ..edho kanti thudupu ga oppukunnattundhi lokpal ki ..no one saves india from corruption manam inthe
Lets create a corruption-free India
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idhi chaala important ..may be they have fight more for this .




anthe kada..CVC edaina lancham case catch chesina cannot investigate by itself..so CBI has to investigate..andukane rendu merging adigaru..otherwise malla ringa ringa roses continues to find the evidence
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Migathayanni koddhiga athyasa except these two IMO


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CBI and CVC: The government has struck down civil society's proposal to merge the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and Central Vigilance Commission (CVC) with the Lokpal.



idhi chaala important ..may be they have fight more for this .


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Punishment: The civil society has proposed minimum one year rigorous imprisonment and maximum of life imprisonment for the corrupt. The government has capped the maximum punishment at 10 years.



life is correct .

But whats Good is some thing is happening let it happen first ..extensions can occur during the course of time.
Lets create a corruption-free India
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inthaki LokPal lo evaru untaru




Members will be appointed by judges, Indian Administrative Service officers with a clean record, private citizens and constitutional authorities through a transparent and participatory process.
A selection committee will invite shortlisted candidates for interviews, videorecordings of which will thereafter be made public.
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Lok Ayukta: The civil society wants the appointment of Lok Ayuktas, the ombudsmen in states, to be overseen by the Lokpal, which the government has struck down.



Idi very very unfair .. denemma .. corruption states lo chaala ekkuva ayyindi .. and lok ayuktas can be used as tools for politicking .. and an overhead is a good start ..
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inthaki LokPal lo evaru untaru .. dont tell .. Sonia, Pranab, Sibal and KCR plz .. how people get nominated to LokPal .. inni depts surveillance seyali ante .. inko parallel govt kavalemo
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PM ni involve chesthe better


cheyakapothe better.
Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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PM ni involve chesthe better. prathi addamainpdu complaint sethaadu PM meedha. between, party presidents ni kooda exclude chesaaraa?
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edho oka bill first raani saami... raanu raanu daanni implementation lo vunde success ni batti marchukovachu...




i agree
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edho oka bill first raani saami... raanu raanu daanni implementation lo vunde success ni batti marchukovachu...

I support not to include PM under lokpal..
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anni theesi denkar gaa inka emundhi bochu




it is still good enough..

Members will be appointed by judges, Indian Administrative Service officers with a clean record, private citizens and constitutional authorities through a transparent and participatory process.
A selection committee will invite shortlisted candidates for interviews, videorecordings of which will thereafter be made public.
Every month on its website, the Lokayukta will publish a list of cases dealt with, brief details of each, their outcome and any action taken or proposed. It will also publish lists of all cases received by the Lokayukta during the previous month, cases dealt with and those which are pending.
Investigations of each case must be completed in one year. Any resulting trials should be concluded in the following year, giving a total maximum process time of two years.
Losses caused to the government by a corrupt individual will be recovered at the time of conviction.
Government officework required by a citizen that is not completed within a prescribed time period will result in Lokpal imposing financial penalties on those responsible, which will then be given as compensation to the complainant.
Complaints against any officer of Lokpal will be investigated and completed within a month and, if found to be substantive, will result in the officer being dismissed within two months.
The existing anti-corruption agencies (CVC, departmental vigilance and the anti-corruption branch of the CBI) will be merged into Lokpal which will have complete power and authority to independently investigate and prosecute any officer, judge or politician.
Whistleblowers who alert the agency to potential corruption cases will also be provided with protection by it.
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anni theesi denkar gaa inka emundhi bochu
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Prime minister: The civil society wants the prime minister to be under the Lokpal's ambit. The government has kept the prime minister out of the Lokpal's purview, but he/she can be probed after demitting office. Opposition parties too are opposed to keeping the prime minister out of the Lokpal's ambit.

Higher judiciary: The civil society wants the Lokpal to have powers to probe the higher judiciary, including judges of the Supreme Court. The government has kept the higher judiciary out.

MPs: The government has excluded the acts of MPs inside parliament and in parliamentary committees outside the Lokpal's purview, which the civil society has opposed.

Lower bureaucracy: According to the government draft, only officers of joint secretary level and above are covered under the Lokpal. The civil society wants the entire bureaucracy to come within the Lokpal's purview.

CBI and CVC: The government has struck down civil society's proposal to merge the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and Central Vigilance Commission (CVC) with the Lokpal.

Punishment: The civil society has proposed minimum one year rigorous imprisonment and maximum of life imprisonment for the corrupt. The government has capped the maximum punishment at 10 years.

Lok Ayukta: The civil society wants the appointment of Lok Ayuktas, the ombudsmen in states, to be overseen by the Lokpal, which the government has struck down.


mee views ettandi


I did not like the Punishment limit of 10 year..it should be atleast 20 years

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