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Subzero
Side Hero Username: Subzero
Post Number: 8716 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 59.93.83.202
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 10:16 pm: |
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Zulu:same script..executed multiple times
 One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28079 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 11:07 pm: |
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Entikaburlu:The Constitution clearly said, the government cannot be partial to any religious belief.
Hindutva is not a religious belief is my point .. Entikaburlu:Why can't private orgs fill that need?
Abcdefghij:actual ga govt chesekante hindu organisations private ga chestene melu ekkuva..dont know why we take or want govt to force?
obvious ga chestunnaru .. chaala chestunnaru .. oka 40-50 years kritam .. Hindus ki leni financial strength ippudu raavadam tho .. private orgz are doing countless good works .. kaani that should not make govt shirk its responsibility .. anyways .. more later .. GN |
   
Entikaburlu
Junior Artist Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 57 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:58 pm: |
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>>I dont see it that way .. My watermelon comparison is valid. Let's substitue Watermelon with Hindutva. It reads like this: Practicing Hindutva is way of leading a pure and spiritual life in India. But it is not a duty of the Govt to provide education in Hindutva to every citizen, however noble it is. The Constitution clearly said, the government cannot be partial to any religious belief. Providing "some religious education" is good. I actually donate specifically to support religious education in school. The reason being, govt cannot provide that. Doing good is not the job of govt alone. Govt's hands are always tied. Why can't private orgs fill that need? |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 10383 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 108.80.183.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:56 pm: |
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Entikaburlu:Both are different. Here is how: Eating water melon is way of keeping cool in Summer. But it is not a duty of the Govt to provide a water melon to every citizen. More over, the Constitution clearly said, the government cannot be partial to any particular garden product.
kamalai inthakante simple ga seppaleru aa kurrodu cheppadu ardam chesuko.... actual ga govt chesekante hindu organisations private ga chestene melu ekkuva..dont know why we take or want govt to force? jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817 |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28077 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:54 pm: |
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Zulu:same script..executed multiple times.
thanks ee .. Elcaminocapastrino: laila
laila oo lailaaaaa .. kaisi ho lailaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28076 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:52 pm: |
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Entikaburlu: Both are different.
I dont see it that way .. once you detach Hindutva from a religion and clearly establish that it is tied to the land and its culture .. then you cannot use Hindutva as a religious symbol or use it as a tool to drive fear psychosis in people by mis-representing it as belong to a particular religion .. GN |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Megastar Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 24404 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.208.231.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:51 pm: |
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Entikaburlu
Junior Artist Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 55 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:48 pm: |
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>>Hindutva is a way of life of Indians ani ruling ichaka .. malli religious connotations ekkada unnayi? >>why should a govt desist from taking a line in accordance to Hindutva Both are different. Here is how: Eating water melon is way of keeping cool in Summer. But it is not a duty of the Govt to provide a water melon to every citizen. More over, the Constitution clearly said, the government cannot be partial to any particular garden product. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28075 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:47 pm: |
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Entikaburlu:which is: get the required 4/5 majority, amend the constitution, do whatever you like. trying to interpret the forefathers in ways not intended by them is not high road.
constitution amend cheyyadaniki veelu paddappudu politically .. appudu chestaam .. but day to day life constitution lo define cheyyaru ga .. so on paper emi unna .. social work ni limit cheyyaleru gaa .. ika interpretation idi kaadu ani meeru chepthe kuda .. adi oka interpretation ee ani sa-vinayam ga manavi chesings .. |
   
Entikaburlu
Junior Artist Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 54 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:45 pm: |
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That case is about the "meaning of Hindutva", whether it makes an election invalid if the candidate used Hindutva during the campaign. You need to show me an SC ruling (preferably Constt Bench) in People vs. John Doe where People wanted to implement a Policy based on religion and John Doe objected and the Justices upheld the Public. Show me, please. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28074 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:45 pm: |
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Entikaburlu: SC ruled on what is the definition of Hindutva. Where did they say, the government can practice Hindutva in its policy making? You are asking the govt to make a policy based on a particular religion's beliefs. Where did SC rule in support of it?
wait a minute .. Hindutva is a way of life of Indians ani ruling ichaka .. malli religious connotations ekkada unnayi? why should a govt desist from taking a line in accordance to Hindutva .. when Hindutva does not belong to any particular religion .. edo oka divide and us vs them scenario create cheyyalani choodatam kakapothe .. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28073 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:41 pm: |
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Entikaburlu:why don't you consult a lawyer or just review some supreme court case archives. I bet they would be so thrilling to read.
sure .. a hardcore leftie article on an interesting SC judgement .. http://www.pucl.org/from-archives/Religion-communalism/sc-ju dgement.htm u would love to read .. |
   
Entikaburlu
Junior Artist Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 53 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:40 pm: |
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Kamal, my suggestin is, take the high road. which is: get the required 4/5 majority, amend the constitution, do whatever you like. trying to interpret the forefathers in ways not intended by them is not high road. |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Megastar Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 24402 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.208.231.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:39 pm: |
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Kamal:
endhukannai cine actor laila laaga thega navvesthannav.... |
   
Zulu
Side Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 7267 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:37 pm: |
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Kamal kurrod first methaga ila cheyyocha..mee ideas cheppandi ani start chesthadu.. tharvatha mellaga enduku cheyyakodadu..chesi theerali antadu..chiraki..mee sickular gallani bavu cheyyatam na valla kadu..ani decide aipothadu.. same script..executed multiple times. |
   
Telugu_times
Moderator Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 23660 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:37 pm: |
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Entikaburlu
Junior Artist Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 52 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:36 pm: |
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SC ruled on what is the definition of Hindutva. Where did they say, the government can practice Hindutva in its policy making? You are asking the govt to make a policy based on a particular religion's beliefs. Where did SC rule in support of it? |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28072 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:32 pm: |
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Entikaburlu:Mee Secular constitution Hindutva concept ni accept cheyadu kada..
Hindutva ni enduku accept cheyyadu .. chakka ga chestundi .. google for .. 1994 Supreme Court ruling on Hindutva and its acceptance .. |
   
Entikaburlu
Junior Artist Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 51 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:29 pm: |
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>>avunaa .. mari constitution lo .. Sita Ramula bomma lu .. dharma definitions .. ivanni enduku pettarandi? Avuna, koddiga reference ivvandi. Symbolism veru, Sidhdhantham veru. As far as I know, the Indian constitution is based religious equality and secularism, so it prevents the state funds to be spent on any religion. Not that it is adhered - Haj funding, temple funds are all violation of it. So would be religious teachings in public schools. why don't you consult a lawyer or just review some supreme court case archives. I bet they would be so thrilling to read. |
   
Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 23661 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:28 pm: |
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ki ki ki...pagalu kakunda nite disco settunnar endi ee thread lo...maa Der annai kuda vundalsindi....entha mandi girrr ane tirige vallo... Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28071 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:25 pm: |
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Entikaburlu:Mee Secular constitution Hindutva concept ni accept cheyadu kada.. Mundu Constitution amend chesukondi.
avunaa .. mari constitution lo .. Sita Ramula bomma lu .. dharma definitions .. ivanni enduku pettarandi? |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28070 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:23 pm: |
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Elcaminocapastrino:maa school correspondent peddha racist.....non brahmins ki asalu seat iyyadu unless the kid is too bright....
Elcaminocapastrino:nenu 6th nundi 10th varaki chadhiva....rest of class naa kantey mundhara nundi undetollu....
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Entikaburlu
Junior Artist Username: Entikaburlu
Post Number: 50 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:23 pm: |
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>>Hindutva anedi mana culture ki mana living ki moolam ani maa nammakam .. Mee Secular constitution Hindutva concept ni accept cheyadu kada.. Mundu Constitution amend chesukondi. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28069 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:22 pm: |
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Anand_n: So non- hindus in India are equivalent to immigrants antaru
intaku mundu cheppinattu ga .. cultural tenets lo chakka ga imidi poyina Abdul Kalam lanti vallani immigrants ani evvaru anaru .. vallu kuda anukoru .. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28068 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:19 pm: |
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Sanman:bjp atyutsaaham tho leni problems create cheyadam tappa emi undadhu. open syllabus aithe 90% schools hinduism lessons cheppukovachu. auranga pocket em chesado clear gaa cheppochu. akbar gadi real story cheppochu. atta kudaradhu antivi. govt matrame cheyali antivi. aakhariki telavani pillakayalaki mohd kuraan yehova introduction kuda ippista antivi. unna naaluka ki mandu veste annattu undhi mee plan. malla hinduism gurinchi kannellu karchedi kuda navve. knee jerk reactions tagginchi logical gaa aalochisthe anni set autai
plan enti saami .. comedy ga undi .. Hindutva anedi mana culture ki mana living ki moolam ani maa nammakam .. Ramudu religious figure kante cultural figure ra India ki ante .. daani meeda nana raaddantam chesi Ramudini Hindu religious figure ga confine chesesaru .. Ganga pavitramainadi .. clean cheyyadaniki try cheddam ante .. Hindutva agenda ani .. chivariki evaru pattinchukokunda vadilesettu chesaam .. ippudu pillalaki Gita saaram ante .. last ki idi plan/knee jerk ani labelling chestunnav .. nuvvu/nee laa alochinche vaallu oka prism lo nunchi chustunnattu neeku anipinchatleda? |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 9813 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:18 pm: |
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Kamal:someother foreign country
So non- hindus in India are equivalent to immigrants antaru  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Elcaminocapastrino
Megastar Username: Elcaminocapastrino
Post Number: 24400 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.208.231.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:16 pm: |
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maa school correspondent peddha racist.....non brahmins ki asalu seat iyyadu unless the kid is too bright....muslims n xtians iithey inga marchi povachu..class lo okey okka muslim ammai undedhi adhi kooda amey child prodigy so antha talent ni ignore cheyyaleka poyadu....every day evening shuklam bharadharam nundi gayatri manthram inga ememo gatti gatti ga chadhivetollam.....muslim ammai kooda racchal chesedhi cute gaa.... nenu 6th nundi 10th varaki chadhiva....rest of class naa kantey mundhara nundi undetollu.... cut chesthey okkadu kooda believer gaa bayatiki raledhu...endhuko naaku eppatiki thelvadhi....andharuu variety ga thayarayyaru....mem kalisinappudalla anukuntam .... |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 3068 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:16 pm: |
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Anand_n:Mee pillalaki repu ikkada school lo bible study compulsory
ee question sagam type chesi aagipoya kamal gari answer expect chesi. as it is gaa digindi response
Kamal:Samuel P. Huntington will be laughing from the heavens for his prophecy ..
ee kavi evaru. em cheppaadu |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 10380 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 108.80.183.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:15 pm: |
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Kamal:oka minority mana daggara unnanduku .. majority sacrifices cheyyali anatam bhavyamena mari?
adi sacrifice etta avtundi mana kids ni ikkada sundays balavihar ki pampistaru people have to choose their priority govt ki emi pani tn lo karunanidi ugadi tesi dobbadu anta vadu chesukokapothe marchestada atage vuntai... jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817 |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 3067 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:13 pm: |
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Kamal:my belief that India is a very deep religious country is once again vindicated ..
bjp atyutsaaham tho leni problems create cheyadam tappa emi undadhu. open syllabus aithe 90% schools hinduism lessons cheppukovachu. auranga pocket em chesado clear gaa cheppochu. akbar gadi real story cheppochu. atta kudaradhu antivi. govt matrame cheyali antivi. aakhariki telavani pillakayalaki mohd kuraan yehova introduction kuda ippista antivi. unna naaluka ki mandu veste annattu undhi mee plan. malla hinduism gurinchi kannellu karchedi kuda navve. knee jerk reactions tagginchi logical gaa aalochisthe anni set autai |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28067 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:13 pm: |
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Abcdefghij:majority lo vundi eyyi ante kastam
oka minority mana daggara unnanduku .. majority sacrifices cheyyali anatam bhavyamena mari? |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28066 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:09 pm: |
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Anand_n: Mee pillalaki repu ikkada school lo bible study compulsory - all for a good cause ante are you ok with that ?
sure .. US or someother foreign country lo unnappudu I dont object .. and I guess, that is very fair .. |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 10378 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 108.80.183.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:09 pm: |
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Kamal:which is mostly accepted by Indians
mostly is a relative term try to respect 25% of other caste people in india too.. majority lo vundi eyyi ante kastam repu MIM vollu vochi quran chadivipistaru motham quran mayam aiypothdi nee istam mari asale mana vallu "god" ante nityananda to nakli kashayam ni nammestru jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817 |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 26849 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:07 pm: |
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KAMAl nee gola endhi. andaroo chepthunnaru kadha. gita is religious sacred verses for hindus. kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28065 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:07 pm: |
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Sanman:avasarama ? aren't their contributions subject to belief ? mythified amplified stories of poorly documented historic characters ni authentic ani establish cheyadam tappa emi use undhi. see where your intention of gita saaram has lead to finally.
exactly .. my belief that India is a very deep religious country is once again vindicated .. with even secularists having strong religious objections ! Samuel P. Huntington will be laughing from the heavens for his prophecy .. |
   
Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 821 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 210.18.154.97
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:07 pm: |
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akkedekkado vandala lakshla kotlu dorikayigaa... aatitho sontha schools katticchukoni mee pillalni pampi nerpicchukondi ee humanitarian gibberish! public/gov funding tho nadiche schools ni secular gaa vadileyandi daya unchi. |
   
Anand_n
Side Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 9812 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:05 pm: |
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Kamal:kaani my problem is with people, in the name of secularism, stopping a good cause .. just because it is inconvenience (or so it is portrayed) for a small section of people ..
Mee pillalaki repu ikkada school lo bible study compulsory - all for a good cause ante are you ok with that ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 3065 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:03 pm: |
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Kamal:I remember reading two lessons about Prophet Mohammed and Jesus Christ ..
avasarama ? aren't their contributions subject to belief ? mythified amplified stories of poorly documented historic characters ni authentic ani establish cheyadam tappa emi use undhi. see where your intention of gita saaram has lead to finally.
Telugu_times:10 minutes telugu news paper headlines chadhivay vaallu
ippudu aa school lo sakshi headlines chadivithe andaru jagan sir inko gandhi anukuntaaru. but i like the idea. ufly newspapers are not up to those school standards now |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28063 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:02 pm: |
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Telugu_times: why mention gita to begin with? if the intension is to "pillala manasullo manchedho/chededho cheppe prayathnam..." then tell manchi from gita, kuran, bible or chandhamaama where is the need to mention eenadu or tv9?
hmm .. so labelling important antaru .. I guess .. Supreme Court ki velthe .. state govts sarigga vaadinchakapothe .. stay vache chances baga unnayi .. kaani my problem is with people, in the name of secularism, stopping a good cause .. just because it is inconvenience (or so it is portrayed) for a small section of people .. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28062 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 09:58 pm: |
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Anand_n:Nope - you cannot detach Gita from its context.If you do , it is no longer Gita but just a set of general pronciples.
hmm .. interesting perspective .. but in my family and from others around .. I always heard about Gita more in a human sciences perspective .. than a religious context .. and one of my relatives in the forces said .. I think major rank unnavaallani chala mandini Gita chadavamani encourage chestaru ani chepparu .. Abcdefghij:bjp voste gita, mim voste quran, missionaries bible anni kids andarini confuse cheyatam enduku?
wait .. confuse enti .. its just an option .. kavalante pampinchandi .. lekapothe maaneyyandi .. its just one more option .. ikkada question enti ante what is so antagonistic about some good stuff .. which is mostly accepted by Indians .. and those who will not accept are free to do so .. kaani courts lo case vesi .. total ga evadiki laabham lekunda spoil cheyyadam deniki communal color ichi? Sanman:are you ok with kuraan saaram and bible saaram also and make them optional ?
sure .. why not .. and between .. I remember reading two lessons about Prophet Mohammed and Jesus Christ .. donno when .. but certainly I did .. |
   
Telugu_times
Moderator Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 23659 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 09:58 pm: |
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Zulu:naku first lo ..we are all sinners..we are all sinners ante artham aiyi sachedu kadu..inka mukku pachalaraledu..nenemi papam chesanu ra..mee dinam cheyya anukuney vadini
maaku prathi roju, school beginning lo, school mottham chetla kindha start ayye vaallam 10 minutes telugu news paper headlines chadhivay vaallu, next 10 minutes bible nunchi chadhivay vaallu OR someone will do prayer naming jesus (every two weeks ki, oka telugu teacher tho prayer cheyinchey vaallu, she is a hindu, but she just used to say general god) yesurathnam ani oka teacher prayer chesthey....eppudoo same sodhi cheemala yoddhaki velludeee, vaati nadathani kanepettudeeee.....antooo dhevudaaaaa, lol |
   
Abcdefghij
Hero Username: Abcdefghij
Post Number: 10374 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 108.80.183.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 09:58 pm: |
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Zulu:(Most) Christian skools lo sadivinodu will endup hating christianity..me included.
mine is complete missionary school kodiga "god" antaru kani naku eppudu jesus anni kuda peddaga vinnaledu or not that inclined emo appatlo?? jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817 |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 9811 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 09:56 pm: |
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Sanman:idhi las vegas lo school book aa
Yesterday is but a dream, tomorrow only a vision But today well lived makes every yesterday and dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope ---Kalidasa Idi 6th class lo chadivanu ala gurtu undi poyindi  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Basky_indya
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Post Number: 26848 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166
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Telugu_times:Church of South India Medak branch annatlu
BP Sugandhar Bishap garu, Bishapamma garu kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Telugu_times
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Kamal:ruddadam enti .. clear ga mandatory kaadu ani cheppesaaka .. if u r a muslim and u dont like ur kid to learn morals from Gita .. u can ask him to be excused .. and it will be .. pillala manasullo manchedo/chededo cheppe prayatnanni .. naatadam etc ani term cheyyadam correct kaadu
why mention gita to begin with? if the intension is to "pillala manasullo manchedho/chededho cheppe prayathnam..." then tell manchi from gita, kuran, bible or chandhamaama where is the need to mention eenadu or tv9? |
   
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Post Number: 7266 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Telugu_times:nenu first nunchi 7th varaku, CSI high school, doodhgaon lo sadhivi, itlaa etlaa ayinano samaj aithaledhu
(Most) Christian skools lo sadivinodu will endup hating christianity..me included. Adho picha malokam batch.. naku first lo ..we are all sinners..we are all sinners ante artham aiyi sachedu kadu..inka mukku pachalaraledu..nenemi papam chesanu ra..mee dinam cheyya anukuney vadini..
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Sanman
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Anand_n:live in the moment,
idhi las vegas lo school book aa |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 3063 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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Kamal:mandatory kaadu
are you ok with kuraan saaram and bible saaram also and make them optional ? Kamal:manchedo/chededo
manchiki chedu ki antha clear lines unte inni religions undavu |
   
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Post Number: 10372 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 108.80.183.15
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Kamal:
though gita is good same with turaks and chirstains etc why to confuse kids with all these stuff bjp voste gita, mim voste quran, missionaries bible anni kids andarini confuse cheyatam enduku? optional in private schools is ok. as sylabus in ind is govt thing its better they dont dive into it.... US is good...its optional and if people need it they take it...or send to those schools i went to missionary school and they never asked me to read bible. morning prayer edo vundedi nothing related to jesus but to god church vundedi never ever forced. jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817 |
   
Anand_n
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Kamal:ika question enti ante .. Gita concise ni .. non-religious book laa present cheyyocha .. students ki?
Nope - you cannot detach Gita from its context.If you do , it is no longer Gita but just a set of general pronciples. Ee core priniciples elagu usual character concepts to cover avutayi- do the right thing,be fair and just, live in the moment, do your duty irrspective of consequences ivanni Gita chadavaka munde nerchukunnam kada  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 28060 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
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Sanman: gita niku naku goppa. non hindus untaaru non religious untaaru vaallani meda vanchi gita chadivinchadam avasarama. voluntary anaku. pillala manasullo aa differences naatadam avasarama. ainaa antha laa emundhi gita lo pillalu nerchukonedhi maamulu moral classes lo lenidhi
ruddadam enti .. clear ga mandatory kaadu ani cheppesaaka .. if u r a muslim and u dont like ur kid to learn morals from Gita .. u can ask him to be excused .. and it will be .. pillala manasullo manchedo/chededo cheppe prayatnanni .. naatadam etc ani term cheyyadam correct kaadu .. |
   
Telugu_times
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Zulu:USA lo kooda Govr schools lo Bible chepparu kada?
that is my point |
   
Telugu_times
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nenu first nunchi 7th varaku, CSI high school, doodhgaon lo sadhivi, itlaa etlaa ayinano samaj aithaledhu Church of South India Medak branch annatlu
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Zulu
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Post Number: 7265 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Telugu_times:usa lo laaga, parents approvals, personal matters......india lo kattam
USA lo kooda Govr schools lo Bible chepparu kada? Even prayer is controversial..many school boards dont allow it. |
   
Telugu_times
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usa lo laaga, parents approvals, personal matters......india lo kattam religion kaavalsina vaallu weekend gullallo, majjids lo, churches lo teach chesukovaali school lo andharikee same syllabus, private or govt. mallee paisal lenodini discriminate endhuku jeyyadam? |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 28059 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
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Basky_indya: Name of the father and of the son, and of the holy spirits - AMENN
aa taravata RSS affiliated school lo chadiva (RSS run school kadu) .. maaku pedda Hindu religious stuff emi undedi kaadu .. except for "Asatoma Jyotirgamaya" sloka from Rig Veda .. in morning prayer .. alage "OM" signs .. Gita classes em levu .. kaani history ni distort cheyyakunda .. anni secular invasions, anni secular colonisations gurinchi detailed ga chaduvukunnam .. whiff of fresh air .. !  |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 3062 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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Zulu:My parents..whats your point?
thats what my point is. it is a choice you made. may be you were forced due to lack of choice during that time. today we live in a different world. choice should be promoted not discouraged. state mandated syllabus is killing choice for parents and students |
   
Basky_indya
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Post Number: 26847 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166
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Anand_n: why full disclosure is needed
meeru aithey, schoool change chesa vaara.. kiik kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Sanman
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Post Number: 3061 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
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Kamal:. but still you/me/everyone have been "educated" all through by such govts ..
anduke kadha ilaa unnam manam. nuvvu google nenu facebook tayaaru chesinattu cheptunnavu gaa
Kamal:asalu corrupt govts ki decision making aa undakudadu ..
govts by inherent nature are corrupt because of centralization of power and money. they should have as few responsibilities as possible
Kamal:why should a not-mandatory teaching of Gita be opposed? adi vishayam ..
gita niku naku goppa. non hindus untaaru non religious untaaru vaallani meda vanchi gita chadivinchadam avasarama. voluntary anaku. pillala manasullo aa differences naatadam avasarama. ainaa antha laa emundhi gita lo pillalu nerchukonedhi maamulu moral classes lo lenidhi |
   
Anand_n
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Post Number: 9809 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149
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Sanman:mana school bags size gurtundhaa. inka daniki extra weight avasarama
Avasarama ante , that is subjective kada ? Some parents might think its needed some not, that is why full disclosure is needed  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Basky_indya
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Kamal:nenu 2nd class varake ala chadivaa .. maa morning prayer .. edo english lo undedi .. which i later found out was drawn from Bible .. alage chaala godala meeda cross undedi .. and teachers are mostly nuns .. adoka lokam ..
Name of the father and of the son, and of the holy spirits - AMENN kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Ntr_rocks
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 Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 28058 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
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Zulu: I studied in one missionary iskool..bible is mandatory..ejjams kooda rasam..they used to call it call it 'Moral science'. New testament and old tetament loni verses ni batti veyyincharu. Private schools lo Prescribed syllabus tharvatha emanna cheppukovachu..bile or geetha or khuran..amma kamal asalu nee kochen enti?
nenu 2nd class varake ala chadivaa .. maa morning prayer .. edo english lo undedi .. which i later found out was drawn from Bible .. alage chaala godala meeda cross undedi .. and teachers are mostly nuns .. adoka lokam .. naaku ekkada kaalutundi ante .. missionary schools lo .. bottu pettukokudadu .. bangles vesukokudadu etc conditions pettevaaru girls ki .. and yaa .. konni schools lo bible kuda chadivistaru ani vinna .. ika question enti ante .. Gita concise ni .. non-religious book laa present cheyyocha .. students ki? |
   
Zulu
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Post Number: 7264 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73
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Sanman: think deeper and tell me whose fault it is
My parents..whats your point? |
   
Basky_indya
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Post Number: 26845 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166
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madrasahhha lo hindus jeroccha?? mari if they can teach whatever, then why cant we in schools kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Sanman
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Zulu:they used to call it call it 'Moral science'. New testament and old tetament loni verses ni batti veyyincharu.
think deeper and tell me whose fault it is
Zulu:Private schools lo Prescribed syllabus tharvatha emanna cheppukovachu..
Anand_n:Over and above emanna teach cheyochu -
mana school bags size gurtundhaa. inka daniki extra weight avasarama |
   
Kamal
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Post Number: 28057 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
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Sanman:enduk vaya govt ki ivanni. election lo gelavagaane public midha ekkada leni rights assume chesukuntaar. aa constitutional rights law and order protect cheyandi sami. vaana padithe benguluru bonguluru autundhi. avi govt functions. ee moral guidance parents schools chusukuntaar gaa. padavi ante dobbi tinadame anukune same govt yokka moral guidance avasarama pillalaki
wait wait .. if that be the stick you want to beat the idea with .. why dont you extend the same to all? asalu corrupt govts ki decision making aa undakudadu .. but still you/me/everyone have been "educated" all through by such govts .. so vaana padinda .. enda kaasinda kaadu issue .. why should a not-mandatory teaching of Gita be opposed? adi vishayam .. Telugu_times: vandhemaatharam nay oppose jesay janaalu....ivaanni oppukuntaaraa?
chivariki issue .. akkade aagettu undi .. |
   
Basky_indya
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Post Number: 26844 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166
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i studies in missionary school by famous management from coimbatore,vellore. except telugu, rest fullll NUNs. too harsh punishment undedi, like goda-kurchi, kneel down ,hit on knuckles.. simple cheppalante, PUNGEEEEE bajaayinchetollu. kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Zulu
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Anand_n: I studied in various missionary schools till 8th grade - bible study was never mandatory or even taught in school.Even moral science stories were not biblical -they were agnostic parables driving the moral point home... they did hand out bibles but we never had any compulsion to read them:-) Don't know about other missionaries , I am talking about the 4 missionaries I attended;)
I studied in one missionary iskool..bible is mandatory..ejjams kooda rasam..they used to call it call it 'Moral science'. New testament and old tetament loni verses ni batti veyyincharu. Private schools lo Prescribed syllabus tharvatha emanna cheppukovachu..bile or geetha or khuran..amma kamal asalu nee kochen enti? |
   
Anand_n
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Sanman:i think there is. state syllabus cbse syllabus etc lo edho oka daniki subscribe cheyali. i think in BED training they teach the same. telisina vaallu light veyyaali
Yes - bare minimum prescription untundi. Over and above emanna teach cheyochu - as long as it is age appropriate and parents sign up.
Kamal:we should not have allowed so many christian missionary schools to be around in India ..
I studied in various missionary schools till 8th grade - bible study was never mandatory or even taught in school.Even moral science stories were not biblical -they were agnostic parables driving the moral point home... they did hand out bibles but we never had any compulsion to read them Don't know about other missionaries , I am talking about the 4 missionaries I attended;) aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Entikaburlu
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cheya koodadu. even $1 of govt money should not be spent on a religion related activity. this is to respect the religion-state firewall. but that does not mean, schools have to atheistic. all religious activity should be private funded. all such programs also must be voluntary, and should form no part of student evaluation. in private schools, you can do whatever you like. |
   
Sanman
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Kamal:so the govt is saying .. treat the "Gita saar" as a moral science text book and not as a religious text ..
enduk vaya govt ki ivanni. election lo gelavagaane public midha ekkada leni rights assume chesukuntaar. aa constitutional rights law and order protect cheyandi sami. vaana padithe benguluru bonguluru autundhi. avi govt functions. ee moral guidance parents schools chusukuntaar gaa. padavi ante dobbi tinadame anukune same govt yokka moral guidance avasarama pillalaki |
   
Basky_indya
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Post Number: 26843 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166
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Sanman: i think there is. state syllabus cbse syllabus etc lo edho oka daniki subscribe cheyali. i think in BED training they teach the same. telisina vaallu light veyyaali
they CANNOT anything like that. if a topic,subject is of 8th standard, that book cannot be taught to below AGE standard set for 8th class. even textbooks also they just cannot recommend as they wish. it has boards like telugu academy, ssc board, etc kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Telugu_times
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Kamal:ante .. Gita, not a religious book, but a philosophical guide type lo treat cheyyakudada? bcoz .. Abdul Kalam .. Gita chadavadaniki Islam practice aapaledu .. so can that not be the approach?
vandhemaatharam nay oppose jesay janaalu....ivaanni oppukuntaaraa? |
   
Sanman
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Anand_n:it can teach any number of additional subjects topics.
amma enduku pillala midha inka baruvu vestaaru. already 6 days 10 hours per day bendu teestaaru. inkaa additional subjects avasarama
Anand_n:I do not believe there is any regulation that prevents the schools from teaching any content
i think there is. state syllabus cbse syllabus etc lo edho oka daniki subscribe cheyali. i think in BED training they teach the same. telisina vaallu light veyyaali |
   
Kamal
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Anand_n:just as Hindu parents will not see biblical stories as non- religious
well .. if that be the case .. we should not have allowed so many christian missionary schools to be around in India .. but we did .. and I believe, except for a fraction of missionary schools, many of them are good, though their version of secularism slightly tilts in favor of atheism/agnostic practice, is what I feel, based on my experience of a montessory school education till a point of time early in my life .. Anand_n:As long as the school teaches all the mandated courses to maintain its license, it can teach any number of additional subjects topics.
I am not sure how correct this is .. endukante boards untayi usually regulating the syllabus .. also additional subjects ante .. tomorrow some islamic school decides to teach hadiths? i guess .. that could have been taken care off already .. Telugu_times:remember secularism 101? no gita in school, no madrassah schools
ante .. Gita, not a religious book, but a philosophical guide type lo treat cheyyakudada? bcoz .. Abdul Kalam .. Gita chadavadaniki Islam practice aapaledu .. so can that not be the approach? |
   
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Kamal:AP Schools lo Bhagavat Gita teach cheyyocha?
Why not ? As long as the school teaches all the mandated courses to maintain its license, it can teach any number of additional subjects topics. Govt.schools will have to provide all religious options - but private schools don't have to do that either. If they declare the intent ahead of time and parents enroll their kids knowing the requirement - I do not believe there is any regulation that prevents the schools from teaching any content
Kamal:treat the "Gita saar" as a moral science text book and not as a religious text
That is a little farfetched... just as Hindu parents will not see biblical stories as non- religious , I do not think you can expect others to see Gita-saar as non-religious aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale |
   
Telugu_times
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Kamal:moral science
eee subject sarigaa teach chesthey sari pothundhi remember secularism 101? no gita in school, no madrassah schools |
   
Kamal
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Sanman: mandatory studying of other religions sounds like encroachment of someone else's religious rights.
ikkada ade kada key .. Bhagavat Gita book chadavaru pillalu .. they will only read a "text book" of Gita .. tailored for students .. so the govt is saying .. treat the "Gita saar" as a moral science text book and not as a religious text .. alage .. there is no exam or pass/fail scenario .. which means .. mandatory lanti condition kuda ledu .. so u cannot argue that u r being force-fed .. |
   
Sanman
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Kamal:karnataka, madhya pradesh lo pillalu ee year nunchi Gita saaram nerchukuntaru .. if Supreme Court does not come in between ..
as long as it is not govt enforced syllabus i have no problem with it. if it is, then its bad. people have a choice about what kind of education their kids should get. if i were a muslim sending my kid to a govt school where he is forced to learn gita i would be pissed. this is going to end in introduction to all religions, which is going to leave the question of omitting smaller religions etc and it becomes a quagmire.
Kamal:minority schools vallu .. how can a secular govt dictate that children be made to read a religious text antunnaru
obviously. what is wrong with their question ?
Kamal: is it against constitution???
Constitution does not dictate the workings of the govt. these are the decisions of govt. if it is conflicting with rights provided by the constitution, it can be challenged. mandatory studying of other religions sounds like encroachment of someone else's religious rights. |
   
Kamal
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Sanman:school curriculum school decide cheyali. istam unna parents pamputaaru istam leni vaallu vere school ki pamputaaru. syllabus has to be approved by the govt. doesnt have to write it
karnataka, madhya pradesh lo pillalu ee year nunchi Gita saaram nerchukuntaru .. if Supreme Court does not come in between .. ikkada vishayam enti ante .. minority schools vallu .. how can a secular govt dictate that children be made to read a religious text antunnaru .. is it against constitution??? or is it really in benefit of people anedi disco cheddaam ani .. |
   
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school curriculum school decide cheyali. istam unna parents pamputaaru istam leni vaallu vere school ki pamputaaru. syllabus has to be approved by the govt. doesnt have to write it |
   
Kamal
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Humpty_dumpty:you are talking about treatment whil I am talking abt correction...inka nanu oggey...
manufacturing stronger minds concept lo vacha nenu .. prevention better than cure paddati lo .. Ntr_rocks:Yoga ledu.. Maa school lo surya namaskaram and aasanalu vundevi...
same .. maaku kuda .. |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 15054 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:53 pm: |
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Kamal:
you are talking about treatment whil I am talking abt correction...inka nanu oggey... |
   
Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 23655 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:49 pm: |
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Kamal:
Yoga ledu.. Maa school lo surya namaskaram and aasanalu vundevi... Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28037 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:45 pm: |
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Humpty_dumpty:armmy, crpf , corp life lo unna stress and student level lo unna stress okkatay naa?
I guess so .. you should see the stats/number of kids committing suicides in depression .. and even though some kids do grow out of teens .. long run lo .. 30 years ki suicides are growing in hordes .. how do we treat them??? Humpty_dumpty:ippudu student life lo unna stress is coz of expectations, not addressing the child's needs...daaniki solution wallanay chusukondi anay badhulu parents, education reformists etc whhy? what ani alochisthay baguntaadhi gita will help the grown ups to think along those lines and save the kids...andulo doubt ledu
Madhya Pradesh introduced yoga in schools last year .. and people say .. the results are very very visible .. like wise .. Gita can help people in general combat stress .. especially those kids who, at a tender age of 14-17 go through a gruelling process for Eamcets, IITs, AIEEEs anukuntunna .. |
   
Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 23653 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:37 pm: |
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Kamal:
Appatlo Maa school chain lo vundedi..may be Hyd or some places lo vundaka povachuuu..epudu motham tesesi vuntar le.. Maa principal to matladite epudu Sanskrit teachers ee leru annaru..so no wonder!! Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 15052 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:36 pm: |
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Kamal:
managing stress, which is due to what? armmy, crpf , corp life lo unna stress and student level lo unna stress okkatay naa? parugulaaata lo visugupoyina manaki , alasipoyina wallakee theda undhi kadha ippudu student life lo unna stress is coz of expectations, not addressing the child's needs...daaniki solution wallanay chusukondi anay badhulu parents, education reformists etc whhy? what ani alochisthay baguntaadhi gita will help the grown ups to think along those lines and save the kids...andulo doubt ledu |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28034 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:35 pm: |
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Rajusk:west lo janalaki puttuka tho alavatu kabatti vallaki Gita avasaram ledu emo..
ammo .. bhale vaare .. edo kopam vachi 30 mandini pittalla .. without any reason kalchesinadi ee desam ee ga? Mayo Clinic lanti chotla Gita ni promote chestunnaru ani kuda vinna mari .. for mental condition suffering patients .. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28033 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:33 pm: |
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Ntr_rocks:They will teach you Sanskrit as the second Lang..you have to write Sanskrit exam in Sanskrit not in Telugu or English...
idi lede tammudu nenu chusina chotla .. bcoz .. second language ni Urdu/Telugu/Tamil kuda chusanu .. I think .. that differs from school to school .. Ntr_rocks:I have no idea whether they still practicing the same.!!!!
no changes anukuntunna .. |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 13911 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:31 pm: |
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Kamal: ippudu corporates tho paatu even army, CRPF, CISF lo kuda bhagavat gita
echata talalu narakabaduno(layoffs/wars)..Gita undali anukonta.. to make it less emotional and impersonal and less painful for the individual making the decision.. west lo janalaki puttuka tho alavatu kabatti vallaki Gita avasaram ledu emo.. |
   
Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 23652 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:30 pm: |
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Vijay77:
Everything is according to SSC... They will teach you Sanskrit as the second Lang..you have to write Sanskrit exam in Sanskrit not in Telugu or English... You must learn all the slokas and there will be year end competitions..everyone should participate... I have no idea whether they still practicing the same.!!!! Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Siloan
Hero Username: Siloan
Post Number: 17744 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:27 pm: |
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kadgamala anna namasthe sadha vatsale matroobhumi anna okkatena? |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28032 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:26 pm: |
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Bunty717: kurrod just chaduvutaadu antaa.. follow avadu ani zulu cheppamannadu
hehe .. good point .. kaani edo oka roju .. ee stotram meeda manam daily 5 mins enduku spend chestunnam .. asalu deeni meaning enti ani alochisthe .. there will be no looking back anukuntunna .. Vijay77: "Saffronization of Indian education" antoo issue chesey organizations/political paties/religious institutions bochedu vuntayi.
big deal .. parties/NGOs/religious institutions evadiki kaavali? prajalu emi anukuntaru is important .. Humpty_dumpty:culture , morals ok...stress management endi vaa 7 hrs class plus 4 hrs tuition followed by gita class antay elagoo marks levu gaa ani nidrothaaru
haaallo .. haaallo .. humdum rao garu .. ippudu corporates tho paatu even army, CRPF, CISF lo kuda bhagavat gita ni education curriculum lo include chesaru .. for stress management .. and it is said .. results are visible .. |
   
Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 23651 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:26 pm: |
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Bunty717:
Naa dialogue naake kottaku... Kadgamala lo emi cheptaaru.???Nenu emi follow kavatam ledu??? Dantlo emi preach cheyaruu...ki ki ki Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Vijay77
Comedian Username: Vijay77
Post Number: 1093 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:22 pm: |
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Ntr_rocks:I studied in RSS school..
RSS schools ante enti? valla syllabus enti? admission criteria enti? Chatrapathi ki valla mother nerpinattu nerputhara, leda relular syllabus vuntundaa? |
   
Bunty717
Moderator Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 18531 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:21 pm: |
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Kamal:tammud .. nuvvu keka .. more respects to you !!!
kurrod just chaduvutaadu antaa.. follow avadu ani zulu cheppamannadu OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi |
   
Humpty_dumpty
Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty
Post Number: 15051 Registered: 02-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:20 pm: |
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culture , morals ok...stress management endi vaa 7 hrs class plus 4 hrs tuition followed by gita class antay elagoo marks levu gaa ani nidrothaaru |
   
Vijay77
Comedian Username: Vijay77
Post Number: 1092 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:19 pm: |
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Kamal:
Kamal:will it be considered "religious education" and hence not secular?
"Saffronization of Indian education" antoo issue chesey organizations/political paties/religious institutions bochedu vuntayi. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28030 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:17 pm: |
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Ntr_rocks:Even today, I read kadgamala everyday except holidays...
tammud .. nuvvu keka .. more respects to you !!! Rajusk:naaku telisindi...hyderabad lo dosthulatho matlade baasha ni cinemalo ettad ani..idi inko rakam reality movie anukoraade patelaa
antha ledu annai .. chusi cheppandi .. reality no real 'gandha' cinema no decide sestaru meere .. (avoid family viewing) |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 13909 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:13 pm: |
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Kamal:.. ninna nenu Delhi Belly choosa
naaku telisindi...hyderabad lo dosthulatho matlade baasha ni cinemalo ettad ani..idi inko rakam reality movie anukoraade patelaa |
   
Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 23650 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:11 pm: |
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Zulu:
Yo..I studied in RSS school.. Even today, I read kadgamala everyday except holidays... Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28028 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:11 pm: |
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Rajusk: you missed the most important day..Pink chaddi day..that comes in Feb
annai .. ninna nenu Delhi Belly choosa .. pink chaddi days are lot better andi babu .. trust me .. Zulu:
lin baden gadu civil engineer anukunta .. civil engineering ban sesedaaa?  |
   
Zulu
Side Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 7253 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:08 pm: |
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Ntr_rocks:Kamal, Maa school lo Anni nerpe valu...every year bhavadgita competitions vundevii.. Even Muslims and Christians participate chese valluuu.. Inka all type of prayers including gayathri mantram kuda nerpe valluuu...
anni nerchukuni itta thararayyava?
hence proved..no point in teaching geetha. rocks..just kidding ya.. |
   
Bunty717
Moderator Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 18527 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:06 pm: |
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Rajusk:you missed the most important day..Pink chaddi day..that comes in Feb
late 90's lone idi popular ayindi Ind lo.. telugu chls lo velentines pandaga ani spl prog's estaaru.. pandaga eto.. kiki OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28026 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:06 pm: |
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Gandhiguevara:Optional subjects gaa petochu...interest vunnollu teeskunelaa...BTW...alaage Bro.Anil jesus chaitra pettamante?
Jesus Charitra ni .. stress buster ga management gurus use chestunnara? |
   
Ntr_rocks
Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks
Post Number: 23649 Registered: 04-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:05 pm: |
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Kamal, Maa school lo Anni nerpe valu...every year bhavadgita competitions vundevii.. Even Muslims and Christians participate chese valluuu.. Inka all type of prayers including gayathri mantram kuda nerpe valluuu... Except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world!!! |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 17945 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:05 pm: |
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Rajusk:Pink chaddi day.
hehehe |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28025 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:04 pm: |
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Rajusk:ee okka statement tho edaina ammeyyochu desam lo.. inthaki West lo evar sesthunnar..details ettu
oh chaala unnayi annai aa madhya American-Hindu Association website lo chadiva .. anyways .. for now idi chadavandi .. and more importantly readers opinions .. http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=108648 |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 13907 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:03 pm: |
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Bunty717:memu edo haloween,father day/mother day type chaduvulu
you missed the most important day..Pink chaddi day..that comes in Feb |
   
Bunty717
Moderator Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 18525 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:01 pm: |
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pilanni badi ki pampe parents ki untaadi objection.. memu edo haloween,father day/mother day type chaduvulu cheptaaru anukoni.. inta fees kadite.. epadivo stories cheptaaraa ani.. desi janam chaala fast gaa unnaru OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 17943 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 75.55.199.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:01 pm: |
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Kamal:
Optional subjects gaa petochu...interest vunnollu teeskunelaa...BTW...alaage Bro.Anil jesus chaitra pettamante? |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 13906 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:00 pm: |
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Kamal:like how some schools in the west
ee okka statement tho edaina ammeyyochu desam lo.. inthaki West lo evar sesthunnar..details ettu |
   
Basky_indya
Megastar Username: Basky_indya
Post Number: 26837 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:00 pm: |
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no problem. already judiciary uses it. kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 28023 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 64.64.32.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 01:58 pm: |
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Schools lo pillalaki stress management, culture, morals nerpinchadaniki Bhagavat Gita ni lesson/text book ga chepte ela untundi? mee opinions cheppandi? teach cheste .. will it be considered "religious education" and hence not secular? or will it be considered a modern approach like how some schools in the west have started to teach Gita? |