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Masularex
Junior Artist Username: Masularex
Post Number: 763 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 210.18.154.107
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 - 11:46 pm: |
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there are lot of unsolved issues in the scientific world. things like energy and time are explained vaguely and there is no hope that we will get it in near future. It seems to be that our scientific exploration is facing a big wall. best way to the forward is looking backward! we need to question basic scientific and mathematical ideas which are so far building blocks of our science. for example how can Pi value be irrational and keeps on growing? we need more precise basic ideas. It will not alter whatever we have achieved so far. it will only help to go forward. It's like using a tape measure and a caliper for different purposes respectively. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 27150 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 12:29 pm: |
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Vjavasi: march lo shift ayya....prastutam bagane vundhi...konchem chetha chedaram choosinappude badhaga anipistundhi.....lekpothe bharata desanike karmabhumi
Vjavasi: pillalu chinna valle so no problem
nice annai .. god bless your family .. tappakunda kalusta mimmalni ..  Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8400 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 12:26 pm: |
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Kamal:mari mee pillalu, family India lo ibbandi ga emi feel avvatleda? just adugutunna .. bcoz .. most people I know .. dont go back to India .. citing children as their concern ..
pillalu chinna valle so no problem |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8399 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 12:25 pm: |
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Kamal:eppudu shift ayyaru? how is Bharat treating you?
march lo shift ayya....prastutam bagane vundhi...konchem chetha chedaram choosinappude badhaga anipistundhi.....lekpothe bharata desanike karmabhumi |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 27147 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 12:02 pm: |
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Vjavasi: ten years bro
mari mee pillalu, family India lo ibbandi ga emi feel avvatleda? just adugutunna .. bcoz .. most people I know .. dont go back to India .. citing children as their concern .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 27146 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 12:01 pm: |
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Vjavasi:tapakkunda kaludhamu.....prastutham vijayawada lo vunna....future lo shift avutaanu......vachinapudu cheppu kaludhaamu
thanks bro .. sure cheptanu .. inka tickets avee book cheyyaledu .. confirm chesaka cheptanu .. eppudu shift ayyaru? how is Bharat treating you? Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8398 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 12:00 pm: |
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Telugu_times:Good Decision bro After how many years in usa?
ten years bro
Telugu_times:which city are you in now? Are you in IT?
vijayawada.....ippati daaka IT ne......ippudu inka emanna try cheyyavachemo choodali |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8397 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:58 am: |
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Kamal:vaarini .. meeru cheppane ledu ??? ippudu ekkada untunnaru??? Hyd aa? Vijayawada? koddiga meeru emi anukonante cheppandi .. ee year lo .. 99% August lo India ravachu nenu .. for a trip .. oka sari mimmalni kalustanu .. meeku abhyantaram lekapothe
tapakkunda kaludhamu.....prastutham vijayawada lo vunna....future lo shift avutaanu......vachinapudu cheppu kaludhaamu |
   
Telugu_times
Moderator Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 23452 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:55 am: |
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Vjavasi:permanent ga shift ayyipoya
Good Decision bro After how many years in usa? which city are you in now? Are you in IT? |
   
Kamal
Megastar Username: Kamal
Post Number: 27144 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.102.249.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:55 am: |
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Vjavasi: india lo vunna sodara....permanent ga shift ayyipoya...
 vaarini .. meeru cheppane ledu ??? ippudu ekkada untunnaru??? Hyd aa? Vijayawada? koddiga meeru emi anukonante cheppandi .. ee year lo .. 99% August lo India ravachu nenu .. for a trip .. oka sari mimmalni kalustanu .. meeku abhyantaram lekapothe .. Digvijay Singh has acquired the image of being the only real Muslim leader of the Congress, an honour that Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel once conferred, and not without a touch of sarcasm, on Jawaharlal Nehru. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8396 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:51 am: |
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Ntr_fan:Vjavasi annai meeru ippudu india lo unnara? leka back to Atl aa? Atl lo unte kaluddam oopali...chala rojulayyindi..
india lo vunna sodara....permanent ga shift ayyipoya...how r u? |
   
Ntr_fan
Moderator Username: Ntr_fan
Post Number: 28009 Registered: 02-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:36 am: |
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Vjavasi annai meeru ippudu india lo unnara? leka back to Atl aa? Atl lo unte kaluddam oopali...chala rojulayyindi.. |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8395 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:27 am: |
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Jujung:Do read the links I posted earlier for the precise definition of energy, and then we can discuss the myths.
can you just paste the definition |
   
Jujung
Junior Artist Username: Jujung
Post Number: 340 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:23 am: |
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Vjavasi:
Do read the links I posted earlier for the precise definition of energy, and then we can discuss the myths. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery
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Vjavasi
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Post Number: 8394 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 10:03 am: |
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what happens to light energy when destructive interference occurs between two light waves with phase difference? |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8393 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 09:52 am: |
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myths of physics - Energy conservation http://www.physicsmyths.org.uk/conservation.htm |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8392 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 09:35 am: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe heat death of universe.....if ultimately no work can be extracted from universe, by definition does conservation of energy has any meaning? |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8382 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 12:30 pm: |
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I don't understand what proving conservation of energy by math means when in reality energy(ability to do work) is irreversably dissipiated or lost |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8381 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 12:23 pm: |
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Noether theorm or whatever it is doesn't prove conservation of energy in all cases...it's only limited to conservative fields |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8380 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 12:22 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:basic work is the force exerted through a certain distance. and energy is considered as the ability of a system to do this work.
so if energy is conserved then ability to do this work should also be conserved....in what end state energy after being dispersed through multiple processes reside...what does ability to do work mean in that state? |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8379 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 12:17 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:bro, nee questions naaku ardham kaaledhu.. in which case energy is jut not about work.
what work does a very low intensity infra red radiation do?....all the energy radiation from universal sources is finally transformed to low end radiation.....how can we say both high and low energy radiation has the same amount of energy or ability to work |
   
Jujung
Junior Artist Username: Jujung
Post Number: 334 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 11:49 am: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem this is the link for the math part The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery
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Jujung
Junior Artist Username: Jujung
Post Number: 333 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 11:45 am: |
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100723105822AA YNsEo Read the above in conjunction with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether's_theorem for precise mathematical definition.. in practical terms from the first link: "If you put two devices in contact with different temperatures, then you can treat them as isolated systems which come into contact. There is then an energy flow which you *can* use to perform work. Given a system which was constrained to stay at absolute zero, the thermal energy of any other system could be measured by its effects as it flowed from the hot reservoir to the absolute zero reservoir. So that thermal energy does have a potential "use," but it just can't be used by the system because it's already pretty much distributed evenly through the system. " The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery
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Mental_sachinodu
Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 5631 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 71.91.7.127
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 11:37 am: |
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bro, nee questions naaku ardham kaaledhu.. in which case energy is jut not about work. basic work is the force exerted through a certain distance. and energy is considered as the ability of a system to do this work. work could be anything, im not sure what you mean "what is work here?". it is contextual. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8377 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 10:30 am: |
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what exactly is definition of energy?....just like mass is a measure of resistance or inertia to change, is there a clear definition of what energy is?....abiliy to do work definition is vague...what is work here?...if energy is conserved it should have the ability to work continuously |
   
Jujung
Junior Artist Username: Jujung
Post Number: 332 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 10:14 am: |
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what contradictions did you find with your understanding of energy? and what is the actual agenda, if there is one? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery
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Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8376 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 10:04 am: |
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Rajusk:meeru maa laaga IT coolie naa ...leka Physics etc fields lo works sesthunnara
IT coolie ne |
   
Rajusk
Hero Username: Rajusk
Post Number: 13827 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 09:55 am: |
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Vjavasi:
Vja, just out of curiousity anthe..(you need not answer..if you don't feel like)..meeru maa laaga IT coolie naa ...leka Physics etc fields lo works sesthunnara |
   
Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8375 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 09:35 am: |
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Emc2:3 idiots chudu antha ardham ayipothundi..
andulo emi vundhi? |
   
Emc2
Side Hero Username: Emc2
Post Number: 3007 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 70.174.180.39
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 09:25 am: |
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3 idiots chudu antha ardham ayipothundi..
 cherapakura chedevu.
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Vjavasi
Side Hero Username: Vjavasi
Post Number: 8374 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 09:18 am: |
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ee topic inthaku mundhu discuss chesindhe...aina inka emanna fresh inputs dorukutaayi emo ani malla thread vesa what is the fundamental definition of energy?......it's defined as ability to do work.....if energy is neither created nor destroyed this ability according to the definition should also be conserved......how can we say energy is there but it's dispersed and not accesible for useful work when energy by definition is ability to do work........again what is the definition of work....this is important because consevation of energy is bedrock of physical theories.......i feel there is vagueness in definition of energy.......if we consider energy as non conserved quantity that means everything in this universe is dying which is close to reality.... PS: again don't jump on my credentials to question hi-fi mathematical theories, i don't have any use for them, as a layman i am trying to understand basic definitions of fundamental physical quantities and laws associated with them |