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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:53 pm:       

ettetta vachinodini daridrudu analedhaa.. assembly lo,, ha ha
veni.. vidi.. vici..
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:52 pm:       

Yeah Assembly lo daridrudu sannasi lanti maatalu konchem vinataniki kashtam gaane untundhi.. emo le adhi ok emo
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:48 pm:       


Whitecollar:

Asalu T lo raadhu.. vachinodu daridrudu.. Ippatiki T lo entha mandhi daridrulu ayyaru?




haha, vachinou daridrudu annada? hurt ayyavu anukuna...aadu evado daridrudu pakka rashtram nundi vachadu annadu...kikiki

akkada kaalindha meeku?
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:47 pm:       

Bakrid chesthe matram raadhu.. kikik..

Asalu T lo raadhu.. vachinodu daridrudu.. Ippatiki T lo entha mandhi daridrulu ayyaru?
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:46 pm:       


Uno:

he numbers are coming down




Main reason is rains anukunta.. Most of the people stayed home due to floods.
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:45 pm:       


Raman:

ledu trs is 100 times better kada vallu cadre gomutra ante manodu paracetamol anduga..




so true

1. Bhabhi Ji Papads will cure corona
2. Frolicking in mud and blowing a conch shell will cure corona
3. Ganesh festival lo bakthi sradha la tho participate chesthey corona raadhu...cut chesthey Bandi gaadikey corona vachindhi

 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:45 pm:       

No..I think herd immunity from r may be every body got effected at one point of time and gone unnoticed as they were asymptotic.. Now that there are very few left to get infected..the numbers are coming down
I dont know if Covid can reinfect the person..if do cases may rise again

May be the Covid strain in India got mutated and became weak due local conditions like weather,food etc and had become weak..The reason why these days there are no news coverage of dead bodies piling up or patients woes in hospitals for lack of beds or ventilators
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:43 pm:       


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ledu trs is 100 times better kada vallu cadre gomutra ante manodu paracetamol anduga..
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:41 pm:       

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/telangana-cm-kcr-oppos es-resumption-of-train-services-1676893-2020-05-11

Rail services open chesi migrants daggara dabbulu denkesi corona spread chesindhi Modi

eedu evadaina maata vintey kadha...

 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:40 pm:       


Raman:

Yeah TRS handled covid better than any govt no tests so no cases




antey TRS and BJP same type governance aa? mari anthoti daaniki moral highground enduku

 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:39 pm:       

https://youtu.be/8Q-gLlPygO8?t=328

T lo asalu raadhu.. kikiki

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:37 pm:       


Raman:

Yeah TRS handled covid better than any govt no tests so no cases




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q-gLlPygO8

corona T lo raaneyyam.. masks waste. mlas masks esukokunda work chestham..
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:34 pm:       

Yeah TRS handled covid better than any govt no tests so no cases
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:22 pm:       

plausible... but poor hygiene is one of the reason for high child mortality rate... those with weak immunity die young...
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:02 pm:       

probably RSS/BJP agenda...western countries paper use chestharu toilet cleaning, Indians use water kabatti manam chaala hygiene andukey low mortality antaru emo

 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 02:01 pm:       

kaadedi propaganda ki anarham .. kummandi asala..
If you love it, you'll teach yourself. If you don't, others teach you.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 01:58 pm:       


Teluguhero:

India that has recorded over 8 million Covid cases has one of the lowest mortality rates in the world, at 1.5%.




asalu 1.5% kuda enduku undhi

https://twitter.com/INCObaid/status/1322183769978068994

Mahabharat was won in 18 days !

Corona fight will be won in 21 days.

 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 01:56 pm:       

enti ee Go Muthra batch hygiene gurunchi matladuthunnara

 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 01:52 pm:       


Teluguhero:


India that has recorded over 8 million Covid cases has one of the lowest mortality rates in the world, at 1.5%.


last rites kosam .... dabbulichi vere reason raayinchukuntunnaaru ..... first hand cases ee 4-5 telusu
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 01:51 pm:       

Next entii?? Cow ??
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 01:48 pm:       

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Now Less cases in Inida compared to previous weeks
 

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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2020 - 01:09 pm:       

https://www.rediff.com/news/interview/coronavirus-in-india-d oes-poor-hygiene-lead-to-fewer-covid-deaths/20201030.htm

Does poor hygiene lead to fewer Covid deaths?

'Better hygiene could lower a person's immunity and make the person susceptible to auto-immune diseases.'

The United States of America leads the world in COVID-19 cases followed by India, Brazil and Russia.


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If you look at the mortality rate worldwide, we see that Italy that has so far recorded 5.4 million cases is at the top of the table with a death rate of 8.1%, followed by Mexico with 5.9%, the UK with 5.5% and France with 3.8%.

India that has recorded over 8 million Covid cases has one of the lowest mortality rates in the world, at 1.5%.

Now, a study conducted by the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research, the National Centre for Cell Science in Pune and the Chennai Mathematical Institute has found that countries with poor hygiene, sanitation and water quality fared better in fighting COVID-19! The paper was published in the journal MedRxiv.

"Lack of sanitation and poorer hygiene practices are known to be responsible for the higher communicable disease burden in countries with low GDP. Surprisingly, we found that these sanitation parameters are correlated positively with the Covid outcome," Dr Rajeeva Karandikar, the well known statistician and director, Chennai Mathematical Institute, tells Shobha Warrier/Rediff.com.

When the novel coronavirus made its appearance, there was a feeling that developed countries would fare better in tackling it.
But some of the scientists I had interviewed observed in the initial days that perhaps India would be in a better position as Indians were exposed to many viruses and bacteria because of lack of hygiene. Your study reiterates what they had said then.
What made you do this kind of a study?

It was Dr Shekhar Mande, director-general, CSIR, who remarked to me about the strange correlation between GDP and the Covid mortality rate. He also said that one of his students was trying to collect data on this. He asked me if I can join the team as a statistician.

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I felt there must be some other factors which would explain the strange connection between GDP and Covid mortality rate, and so I agreed.

What were the parameters you took into consideration to do the study?

First, we decided that we would look at country-wise mortality data instead of the number of reported cases as there was a lot of talk of under-reporting of the same.

We took the mortality data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control while WHO had all the health-related and sanitation data. Then we relied on the World Bank site for human development index and the GDP numbers.

We analysed a total of 10,112, 754 cases and 501, 562 deaths as on June 29, 2020, and also with a 60-day interval data as on August 7, 2020.

The data from well-known coronavirus global deaths-tracking sources showed that more than 70% of Covid mortality occurred in high income countries like Italy, Spain, the UK, France and USA. Our analyses also revealed a similar trend.

To explore the dichotomy of rich and poor countries in relation to Covid deaths, we considered several explanatory parameters.

The factors included percentage of older population, prevalence of obesity, population density, sanitation and hygiene, incidence of communicable and non-communicable diseases, etc.

Is it because countries like Italy, the UK, France, etc have more older population that they have high mortality rate?

Yes, that is part of the explanation.

The other factor is what the UN calls the urbanisation index. It is a fact that density of population is huge in urban centres, leading to higher number of infections.

Some of the distinctive features of higher GDP countries are its ageing population and a larger fraction of urbanisation.

We found that the proportion of population above 65, obesity and the percentage of urban population are positively correlated with Covid deaths.

So, because more than 50% of India's population was young, India was in a better position to fight the virus...

Yes, demographically, we are a young nation. And the urbanisation index is much lower in India than European or most of the Western countries.

Other than the demographic parameters, we looked at the sanitation parameters like availability of clean drinking water, hand wash facilities, toilets, etc.

Lack of sanitation and poorer hygiene practices are known to be responsible for the higher communicable disease burden in countries with low GDP.

Surprisingly, we found that these sanitation parameters are correlated positively with the Covid outcome.

There is a general feeling that people living in better sanitation conditions have poor immunity…

You know how people living in the US need to be a lot more careful when they visit India for a short period!

One of the manifestations of better hygiene and safe sanitation practices in the high GDP countries is the increased incidence in auto-immune disorders.

It is believed that better hygiene practices could lower a person's immunity, and make the person susceptible to auto-immune diseases.

We therefore checked whether any of the auto-immune diseases showed a connection with the low death per million (LDM) variable, and we saw a strong positive correlation with multiple sclerosis, type 1 diabetes mellitus, rheumatoid arthritis and psoriasis, and a weaker correlation with asthma.

While looking at correlations to understand possible causes, we should first look at those explanatory variables for which there is a scientific or logical reason for the observed correlation and leave out those that show correlation but for which there does not appear to be any explanation.

Did you find variables that showed correlation but had no logical explanation to it?

Does the correlation between the GDP and Covid mortality rate have any logical explanation?

GDP and HDI are variables where there seem to be no scientific explanation for the observed correlation.

That is why we looked at the variables that have some scientific or logical reasons for the observed connection.

For example, we found that there was a correlation between higher mortality rate, and sanitation, autoimmune diseases, hygiene, and demography.

After we have taken out the part of observed mortality rates that can be explained by these variables, we found that there was no correlation between residual mortality rate and the GDP.

Thus, the observed correlation is almost entirely due to the confounding factors I said earlier.

You mean, we shouldn't connect GDP and the Human Development Index with mortality rate at all?

The full story is, it is demographics, sanitation, etc are connected to mortality rate.

Once you make this connection, the GDP story completely vanishes.

In the late 1990s and early 2000s, there were a lot of stories connecting Sachin hitting centuries and the Sensex going up! This is an example of spurious or nonsense correlation.

You will see that the time Sachin started playing was when economic liberalisation happened. And that explains the Sensex going up, and not Sachin hitting centuries.

I see the same kind of spurious correlation between the GDP and Covid mortality rate.

There was a lot of debate on the efficacy of BCG vaccine in fighting Covid-19. What did you find out about BCG vaccine?

Yes, many early studies suggested that the countries in which the majority population was immunised by the BCG vaccine, had lower LDM (low death per million). But we found negligible of correlation between BCG vaccination and LDM.

A possible explanation for this difference could be due to the fact that comparisons in the previous studies were made with socially similar nations while we considered a diverse group of countries.

In fact, we found significant negative correlation of mean BCG vaccination of a country and prevalence of autoimmune disorders

Can we say, better hygiene conditions made people in the richer nations less immune which, in turn, resulted in higher mortality rate?

Added to the fact that better hygiene conditions made them less immune, was the demographics; that more people belonged to the higher age group.

These two factors explain why we see higher mortality rate in those countries.

Does this mean we shouldn't be living in a very sanitised world?

No. Many people asked after reading the study, should we be living in unhygienic conditions? No, that is not the point.

Perhaps those who are living in better hygiene conditions should try to boost their immunity, while those living in poor hygiene conditions should improve hygiene and also boost their immunity.

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