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Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4314 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: |
mimmalni ee roju ninchi 'GUTTS'ONKAY ani pilichukunta. direct ga DER tho kooooda kummesthunnaru.....  | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 252 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: |
I know. It was just a metaphor to imply that Der is ready to take on the next person :-) | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4854 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.139 Rating: |
small correction - I didn't ask for any of his help :-) And I highly resent his extrapolations about me. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22145 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
God Bless. Der kurrod tho ettukunte last ki  ilaa avutaavuSimha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 250 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: |
 Der's mission accomplished. May I help the next person in line please? - Der | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4853 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.139 Rating: |
So dont thrust the mantle of being compassionate onto ur shoulders alone...U will be surprised..... ---------------------- naku buddhi ledu to even respond to you. But I don't even understand how this thread in which all I did was explain my take on vedam movie gets to you extrapolating my opinions as egoism and my compassion towards people in need as compassion towards muslims. I am so beyond confused at this point. You are either brilliant or absolutely twisted and I am plain dumb to even get into a discussion with you. Either way, namskaram. vuntan. | ||
Ntr_rocks Hero Username: Ntr_rocks Post Number: 10767 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 170.141.177.181 Rating: N/A |
}koddi sepu ardam kaledu...  If you don't like Something, Change it. If you can't Change it, Change the way you think about it. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6037 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
Mari muslaman gurinchi nenu cross haris ani oka pree statement vesaru endhuko??? tirigi gillithe malli potshots.....mundhe cheppanu...its not an argument as there are no completely right answers...I thought u were discussing...then u suddenly brought in ur intrepretations on how I feel abt muslims into a thread which has got nuthing to do with religion per se.... Do u recognise that?? | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4852 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.139 Rating: |
I don't hold any opinions high or low about why I do what I do. You on the other hand have a very low opinion about anyone who you don't agree with and will go to any length to discredit them. I am done with this. Call me any names you want. | ||
Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6359 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
anduke Bushya meeda cheppu isiresadu journalist gaadu baghdad lo.. anduke Obamiya egypt kelli muslim world ki speechulu ani cheppi damage controlling chesthunnadu.. Minority licking ani U.S ki manaki endhuku comparision..Mana stand veru veella stand veru islam and muslim vishayanikosthe. As simple as that. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22128 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
 punchSimha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Methhanithodugu Side Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 4650 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.92.75 Rating: N/A |
are you looking for any toll free number btw }  CM42014 Disclaimer: These recommendations are based on the theory of pallkoll analysis and personal observations. This does not claim for profit. We are not responsible for any losses made by traders. It is only the outlook of the market with reference to its previous performance. You are advised to take your position with your sense and judgment. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22124 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Nippu tho national games aadatanaavu  Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6035 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
Akkai......U have such an elevated opinion on ur compassion....sad to say this but ur interpretation of compassion is typically cinematic....I have no issues with turaks....in general...but trying to depict as if they are the innocent/victimised shud come with its own set of caveats.... try making a film in SA/Lebanon/Turkey etc pointing ur fingers at Islam and u will know the difference between India style minority licking and how the world intreprets minoroties... US lo 9/11 jarigaka...was there a single effing movie which commiserated with islamic residents of US???? What was the case for our 26/11??? So dont thrust the mantle of being compassionate onto ur shoulders alone...U will be surprised..... | ||
Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 4525 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.117.243.125 Rating: N/A |
// idi cheppadaniki 5 vedalu deniki.//\ mari deniki 5 vedas. aa cinema ayina cheppadhi good will in, bad will lose. daaniki 3 hrs stunt endhuku brother. http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4851 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.140 Rating: |
-- I think I am in Der's crosshairs now b'coz I said in one of the Vedam movie threads that innocent turaks being suspected is a fact and terrorism is a fact or whatever. I think he was after me in his own very intelligent way. pseduo-secular, pseudo-liberal, pseudo-initellect blah blah blah. Whatever. What he or anyone thinks doesn't matter in the bigger scheme of things for me. Everytime the topic of donations/helping comes Der brings up the topic of ego. That helping someone is somehow associated with ego satisfaction is plain bizzare. But that's his POV and let it be. | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17586 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
adi manava seva madhava seva quote. idi cheppadaniki 5 vedalu deniki. | ||
Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 4523 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 115.117.243.125 Rating: N/A |
assalu vedam ante enti. what is it for, for whom it is and why its written, and what is that the author want by weitting it. http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm | ||
Film_fan Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 12573 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
I am just a human being who feels for others in need. You can hate me all you want for that -- yemi idhi....? ila serious ayipothunnaru....janaalu? We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle | ||
Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 6557 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.129.154 Rating: N/A |
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Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22076 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
ani nuvvu decide chesaav rakta charitra ki, puli ki, adurs ki......anntiki pettukovachu Vedam ante title. vaadu edo teleeka sound bavundi ani pettadu. daanni oorike odileyakundaa explanations ivakandi Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 4522 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 59.163.89.119 Rating: |
der babu , who will help whom. antha mana bhrama. its just like buying a movie ticket when we help others. a few minutes of drama for us and a good money for them. der , manako jabbu vundhi, we have to spend 50 lakhs to cure that , we have only 10. what will we do. and there is a doctor who is ready to help and asks u to become doctor in return. what will u do. manam help chesam kadha ani , vaadini nuvvu doctor avvu, IAS avvu ani chepthe ela brother. we just give chance to live, vaadu em avuthado vaadi istam. manchi manishaithe chalu ani aasistham thappa em cheyyalem. he may become a cook in daba, and serve u good food when u travel in midnight , or become a tea stall master and serve a bottle of milk to ur baby when u need it most at midnight. isnt it a service and istnt it a value addition to the world. http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm | ||
Diviseema Side Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 4521 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 59.163.89.119 Rating: N/A |
Vedam meaning . Saramsa of any veda is humans must live like humans and help each other. manishi manishi laga , saati manishi kosam brathakatame anni vedhala saramsam. thats what the movie is , atleast thats how they thought. movie nachhina nachhakapoyina , title meaning mataram edhe. http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/jun/26cas.htm | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 4140 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.221 Rating: |
@Der I was never impressed by your posts so much...ever before. good job! | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17579 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.1.171.91 Rating: N/A |
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Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6030 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
Ayn rand's altruism...lol...this thread is not about altruism being good or bad....lol...thread chadivithe telustundhi....and heaven's sake...don't ascribe objective theory of altruism and in general objectivism to Ayn rand..if thats the best u can do....shun ur pseudo intellect garb and try to read a bit more.... the thread's premise is how can people justify morality of altrusim and free will together.... My first post in this thread quoting Maverick: "Liberalism by its very foundation believes in free will...anyone who believes in freewill trying to justify inequality is a big logical faux paus....if free will is the order of the world then everyones destiny is solely a by product of such an implication....and there never be any associated remorse or sympathy to that." | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7476 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.205.15.109 Rating: |
 Why does this thread remind me of Ayn Rand's ideas on altruism???? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2156 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 71.195.29.143 Rating: N/A |
ikkada adhe paristhiti..chala matuku boucers ee...Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
Scarface Junior Artist Username: Scarface Post Number: 34 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 63.98.68.252 Rating: N/A |
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Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22066 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
naadu kuda same pojishen Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 2348 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.191.241.241 Rating: N/A |
Der #6025 koddigaa xtreme anipichhindi.. Choice between million kids hunger in one go and million other species antenu... Yes, we will pick humans.. but based on this pick, how can we judge the donors morality? How practical the case is ani thinkinaa annamaata.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 4139 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.221 Rating: N/A |
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Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 249 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: N/A |
We are not talking about extreme cases of life and death here. We are talking abt charity under "all's well" scenario. (all's well on the donar side i mean) Even with your hypothesis, it's pretty easy to judge the morality. 1. If the parents let 10 other kids die they are selfish 2. IF they let an other kid(just one) die, it's probably justified. 3. If they let 10 other kids live at the expense of their own kid, they are just GREAT people. | ||
Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 2346 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 64.149.123.233 Rating: N/A |
Top 20 posts emo sadivinattunnaa.. shaanthaadantha undi theddu.. I though you were questioning morality of an injividual based on an unrealistic scenario.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6028 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
U have to spend more time on this thread...u are attacking with insufficient ammunition....first I never said Guttunkoy won a lottery, I presumed the money to hard earned.... secondly ur analogy is not akin to mine...mine didnt have anyone dying on a personal front...that will amount to deprivation of oneself at a very fundamental level...I can stand that kind of selfishness I guess hehe...but in my hypotheses...U were about to buy a new house....u are currently living in say a rented one and are making a living... So the intensities of my case urs are not on the same scale either qualitatively or quantitatively...!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2874 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
i think it's all because of your over emphasis on the negative side of the ego.....ego has different levels.....infact the root of our every mundane motivation is ego if you think technically....we have to act in this world and we do that with ego at different levels....but we can realise or attribute the root of our action to something higher other than ego, then that action is qualitatively different and superior to the action that we attribute to our ego.....that's how we progress in the technique of action | ||
Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 2345 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 99.191.241.241 Rating: N/A |
Take a case and then define limiting to practical nature of that case.. Onaki winning a lottery can happen tho heavy odds against.. but within the case you saying, with that money a million kids can be saved.. or a million other sepecies can be saved.. and then redefining or attacking/questioning the morality of the injividual is utter bullshix.. Its like (say): A couple has a kid and is about to die.. all of a sudden god appears and say - hey.. I can let your kid live but somewhere I will take away 10kids lives.. Based on the wish from the parents, you trying to derive the morality or selflessness.. doesnt make sense, atleast to me.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6026 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
deeni ela define chesthar....anduke seppa kadha hypotheses andhi...define practicality...to me...in my hypotheses...G_Y didnt win a lottery yo...she earned it....u can set it to any amount u feel is practical!!! | ||
Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 2343 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 75.37.189.171 Rating: N/A |
Iam happy with what I have now.. but If win a lottery, not only I will be happy, will live life luxuriously thereafter.. .. necessity/comfort/luxury ki happyness ki mudi pettakoodadu ani anukuntunnaa.. wot say?In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 248 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: N/A |
Thats the whole point of this discussion. This discussion is not about whether charity is good or bad. No stupid would argue that charity is bad. The point is it's no big deal as long as there is no sacrifice involved. | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4848 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.132 Rating: |
Exactly. But human nature doesn't make them think I don't need a new car or new house. At the least it's very hard for most people to say I am happy with what I have now, I will donate 100% of the winnings to charity. | ||
Stig Side Hero Username: Stig Post Number: 3953 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 74.105.123.107 Rating: N/A |
 ------------- Only seven people have looked The Stig straight in the eyes. They are all dead now !! | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 247 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: N/A |
Good point. Why is charity always a percentage of your income/wealth? If you lived happily when u had $100k and never thought you would become a millionnaire some day, and when you actually became a millionnaire why wouldn't you donate the rest $900K ? Why does the affordabilty change with your wealth, needs and desires? | ||
Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 2340 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 64.149.123.233 Rating: N/A |
Thinkaalsina pani ledu.. Ridiculous scenarios techheshi magnify cheshi chooste prathee daantlo negatives kanabadathaayi.. Practical gaa unna scenarios ni chooskunte better.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2150 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
 Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
Dreamcatcher Junior Artist Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 636 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 63.236.13.198 Rating: N/A |
Sentiment tho kottava jp kurrodini? :-) smart boy. | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4847 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.132 Rating: |
neeto potshot lu enti mahasaya. anta dairyam koodana? kopam asale aledu. internet lo argue cheyyadam enta dandago poyina varame telisindi. ur posts are not the only posts on the topic of donations in this thread. So, don't think I am responding only to you. Regarding ur other post - when I think of what to do when I win a 100 million dollar lottery ticket, I always get stuck at what will I do when I run out of money. I haven't figured a good answer yet. | ||
Jp_rocks Side Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 5766 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22 Rating: N/A |
ejjactly..how does it matter if the donar is donating to satiate his ego or for world peace? .bullet diginda leda.....a dollar donated out of ego satiation will get the same # of candys as a dollar donated out of a transparent-as-a-glass heart.. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22054 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Kushi much more difficult to conceive and implement Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6025 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
This is the line where you set urself up..... Ok a hypotheses..... "You have a million dollars and u have dreamn't all ur life for say a ferrari or a grand mansion...you are abt to sign the deal...I walk on and like NTR say...but u are ok now...U have a home to live and a good car to drive around Sisteeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr......there are 10 million refugees being led to hunger everyday...ur act of charity will save them all...in one go...if u have any morality...then donate this million to me.....will you do so immediately with out a spurt of thought ( assuming u trust me).....???? Now lets regress this Q even down and say.... replace the 10 million refugees with say 10 million rare specimen of fish delicacies...or 10 million hens....... how long will you think...and why doesnt it evoke the same feeling as before??? think abt it....before you present an alternate case | ||
Desparado Comedian Username: Desparado Post Number: 1840 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 76.4.138.19 Rating: N/A |
whats wrong with helping someone for ego satisfaction.....it will be a selfish act only when it is hurting others... | ||
Jp_rocks Side Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 5765 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22 Rating: N/A |
why don't u recommend someone from the db..just for the records avanniii ok..mundu cinema perlu cheppu......israel mandu immante, adi oda lo ostondi..daniki 10 life boats unnai.....ani jeevan kishore anaddu.. | ||
Desparado Comedian Username: Desparado Post Number: 1839 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 76.4.138.19 Rating: N/A |
sadavak mundhu kakarkaya sadvinaka kikarkaya ani anedhi indukay sprite AD lekka undhi discussion.....sprite piyo pyaas bhujavo bhaki sab bakwas chass | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6024 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
Now you are taking potshots at me vehemently...and that is exactly what I am pointing at...Had you been impersonal is ur association with ur charity such vehemence wouldn't have comeforth...cuz u wanted nuthing out of it... Now that I presented an alternate hypothesis...which might be equally consistent on a logical note, you are unhappy that an act of charity is being equated to not acting at all...and that drove ur anger...why?? were u expecting ur nobility to be supported such that it cud have been reinforced?? if so....if some defines for himself that his notion of god is greater than his fellow human being and then builds a huge temple....how is ur charity greater than his....if you believe humans are free to make their own decisions??? as I said...these are questions....and as such they shud never perturb you as they are mere circumspect rants of the uninformed right??? | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4846 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.132 Rating: |
This thread is mind boggling for me. The only thing I can say is when you give to someone you give b'coz you understand their need and you know they won't abuse what you gave and you can afford to give. When you give you give selflessly. Your bottomline is it's helping someone in need - could be surgery, could be education, could be medicines. It doesn't matter what the need is - you can afford to give, their need is genuine and you want to give. ivvatam ego satisfaction ki isaru anedi this is the first time I am hearing. andaru ila anukuni, vadi kharma ani anukuni bathukuthu vunte inka lokam lo manam manushuluga puttina, inkedo puttina no difference. Rest is all left to der's intelligent analysis. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22051 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
define overall movie experience. "naa manasu ki nachindi" ante nenu emi cheyalenu nenu sandhya 70mm lo "Daddy" cinema chusi half an hour nonstop edichanu touch ayipoyi ee rendu compare cheyalem kada Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6023 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
Right on the money here...so there is nothing either rational here or something that comes across as irrational too as nobody is hurt by this...so lets call it transnational...that which is momentarily freed from the clutches of rationality or lack thereof... May be a quantum state of rationality and irrationality woven together.... but this is a delicate balance.....and I am not that smart to quantify it...some one more smarter shud venture at it | ||
Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 6349 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
There is nothing like desire to be good. You desire to get rid of unwanted elements like anger,hate etc. Once you get rid of all those, you become good. So there is no selfish act there. | ||
Jp_rocks Side Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 5763 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22 Rating: N/A |
telugu lo atleast 10 aa working with a lungiii aa, like working from home?  the screenplay..and the overall movie experience....gaba gaba rendu perlu cheppu.. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22049 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
 nee sodhi tagaleyya Detroit lo happy days ki kuda kottaaru Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Ntr_rocks Hero Username: Ntr_rocks Post Number: 10733 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 170.141.177.181 Rating: N/A |
If you don't like Something, Change it. If you can't Change it, Change the way you think about it. | ||
Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2148 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
rendu veru veru nepathyalu annai..polika anavasaram anukuntuna.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
Jp_rocks Side Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 5761 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22 Rating: N/A |
yes...a lot...........ppl were clapping towards the end..i haven't seen such a response to any movie ever..phenomenal.. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6022 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
yeah...second level....of gratification...but atleast....U know that u havenot forced ur existence onto the beneficiary's psyche...atleast u dont need any reinforcement of ur nobility in the eyes of others..... Still ur question is a valid thing...if u are truly selfless...U donate money/opportunity and will leave that at the very moment...not qualifying it with any emotion like pride, humility ......etc.... How abt qualifying that moment with responsibility??? That is what vedam preaches....as if its our responsibility.......actually responsibility is a more dangerous term...some say being responsible is being virtuous....may be...but take out the anticipation of an outcome from a responsibility...then it regresses down to the same nobility etc.... So in my small sphere of understanding....dont qualify it with any thing...just do it...if the moment and opportunity spurrs you on...as simple as that..... That is reason why ethics evolved.....cuz people much earlier than us recognised the fact that responsibility often times sets this bondage..to a common cause...and hence formed societal norms....cuz under the hood of responsibility was a more self centered goal to persevere and preserve an identity...at a level of groups, creeds and nations..... so that responsibility is no different from what u feel when u come across a very crippled bird....the levels and kinds of emotive responses that they trigger change from time and setting..... Societies, rules and norms evolved thus...in my understanding....I might be wrong | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 246 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: N/A |
I haven't seen the movie. Is it better than Bommarillu? | ||
Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2147 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
modhati caselo..patel-ramulu..patel is selfish..happy with the acts he is doing....ramulu is getting robbed outrageously efeting him and his family.. second caselo.. A helping B such as in danalu dharmalu, gupta danalu etc.. A is selfish in a way, because his ego is getting satisfied..but B is getting help too..sarvejana sukhinobhavantu..bottomline dont worry even if gupta danalu is considered to be a selfish deed...it is atleast doing good to everyone involved in it... Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22047 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
ye aspect o cheppu. in every aspect i am sure we can find atleast 10 Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Jp_rocks Side Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 5759 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22 Rating: N/A |
name one movie which is better than vedam in the last 10 yrs..iam open to ideas.. | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 245 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: N/A |
Then how do you differentiate between good and bad? Per his logic, If you have a natural desire to be good, being good can also be considered a selfish act as it satisfies your desire of being good. The logic gets twisted. You have to draw a line at some point | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2873 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Der logic prakaram aithe gupta danalu kooda ego acts kindhe vastaayi....guptam ga chestunnamu ane satisfaction | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22046 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
 my bad reframing question. daanam teeskune vaadiki evaru istunnaro teliyakunda enta mandi istaaru? Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Dreamcatcher Junior Artist Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 635 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 63.236.13.198 Rating: N/A |
Cheppukunte adi gupta daanam ela avutundi? | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22044 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
How many people do guptha daanaalu? Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2759 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: |
idiaithe i totally agree with der on this he is absolutely spot on kaani yeah it will drive people nuts, my take on this is as long as people think they are doing good and truly believe they are giving it up for the people, it's all good since someone is getting benefited out of it, why educate people and trample their ego saying you are doing this for your own gratification since it might and will piss them off once the truth dawns on them and aa maatram good kuda jaragadu( it could go either way) so that's one thing better left alone and actually if posibble better stoke the ego so someone is getting better somewhere why screw up a good party | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2758 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: |
true atleast he wears his heart on his sleeve, no articulate bullshit | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2872 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
bro..I feel inherently everyone knows what is right and wrong.......when they follow what to them is right they feel joy, when they are on the wrong path though they might feel self important for a while but that feeling is not deep and they always feel threatened | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 244 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: |
Der just gave a new definition to compassion - Satisfying ego which is a selfish act and hence people who help others are selfish. I mean his logic is not technically flawed but it will just drive you nuts if you try to digest it. gotta admire his talent | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22042 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Krish ni cinema ni thittinchadaaniki nuvvu main reason Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2146 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: N/A |
 Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
Jp_rocks Side Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 5758 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22 Rating: N/A |
36 hrs after watching vedam ppl are still in vedam-hangover.......the movie has got THUNDEROUS response in hyd and vizag.. Vedam - the best telugu movie in a decade | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 243 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: |
lol and I won't find fault with it. Where else you could do this if not in a DB? | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2757 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
yavvaa i would agree with the above, sometimes i think der is shooting it straight, most of the times he is just plain effing around and derives a sadistic pleasure out of all of it | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2756 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: |
these are the exact things which swirl in my head whenever i feel like picking up an argument, at the end of it the realization that intrinsically iam wrong and too inadequate helps me get over the urge this is all too deep bro, need to be coked out of my freakin mind just to restore some sanity, escapism? hell yeah but easier way out who needs pain anyway | ||
Diwakaram_april1 Side Hero Username: Diwakaram_april1 Post Number: 3070 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 137.254.4.6 Rating: N/A |
Ilanti news cheppaku maama mania kurrollu thattukoleru, ninnati nundi kakkala vaddha ani roaming chesthunnaru | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6021 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
ezzatly bro...we are attacking this tenet....that satisfaction is what we trying to analyse.... | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 242 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: |
Definetely not. But you do posess this unique talent of forming conflicting questions and still win an argument(or make the other person give up) from both sides. I mean I won't be surprised if you could be posting here and at the same time talking over the phone on the same subject with exact opposite views and still win on both ends | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6020 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
ehe meeru mari serious aithe kashtam appa...meetho disco...remember meetho arue cheyyatam ledhu...I dont participate in arguments that often...I thought we were discussing... If I remember right..U once told me us about some group at some point who got some people married with out their parents consent...the emotion that drove them then is exactly called liberalism...where they thought their friends/acquaintances happiness is more central than two person's consent...causing them emotional hurt.....They might have ezzatly went through the same sort of helplessness...as ramulu did...Agree/Disagree....(remember at that point)..... If the same set of people commiserate with ramulu...is not ambiguous to the lofty ideals of that kind of liberalism.... FYI, I am not against liberalism as a tenet...but with half baked minds that patronize it and thrust it onto people... lets reason it out as men do...said vito corleone once...so do I now...kiki | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2871 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
the satisfaction one gets by sharing with others is different from the feeling of self importance one gets by accumalating or grabbing from others | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4843 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.132 Rating: |
especially on the back of the fact that ur secular leanings profess that any one can do anything to make him happy with no rules and binding??? HUH??!!??!!?? ego? secularism? Where do you even come up with these inferences from? nuvvu velikeste kaliki, kalikeste eliki vesta vuntavu. neetho argue chese scene naku ledu. Think whatever you want. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6018 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
Am i being outrageously stupid via my questions..are they not borne out of some valid logic?? | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6017 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
You seem to have no respect for cognitive reverie....If you think u have done more charity than others then good luck with that...in my opinion every human likes to help....irrespective of who he is...cuz help is seen as a virtue...some do it going out of their way and some not.....triggered by various levels of emotive happiness that such a help triggers... U are of the opinion that helping is a great thing to do...May be...but are u doing it selflessly...ask urself the question why does ur emotional self feel satisfied..when u help.....so aren't u feeding ur ego of its nobility with such acts of kindness....so are u really concerned abt others or abt the well being that u derive that u draw for ur emotive self??? If u do it to satisfy ur ego..then how is that kind of selfishness different from patel's selfishness....especially on the back of the fact that ur secular leanings profess that any one can do anything to make him happy with no rules and binding??? These are questions not qualms | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17571 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.1.171.91 Rating: N/A |
How and why is marriage an essential piece of life by which u r judging one's fate | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 240 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: N/A |
Back to programming brains. Annavaram - good luck | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4842 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.132 Rating: |
Here is how I look at fate. Let's say me who is reasonably good look, well educated, moderately rich and from a good family is never married - then it is may be fate Some other girl from a poor but good family is not married b'coz her parents can't afford a dowry - then may be it is fate - but where I come into picture by trying to help her get married. annitiki fate ani voorukunte danni maarchanu try chese vallu kooda vundali kada? That's how I see whatever help I provide. It's easy to sit there and talk kharma siddantham than doing anything useful. I do understand that. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6016 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
And I envy you...U can find inner peace...thats bliss... living life on the lines of pure logic is often times confusing and can drive one out of his wits very easily...and actually is boring too.. its our imperfections that make life rich in its texture.....but arguing for some other imperfection or perfection on the back of our intrinsic imperfection is what that piques my interest... when we do so....how do we manage to do so with out troubling our conscience...these are interesting questions.....Dont u think so????? | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2754 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: |
not finding fault with you, it feels right, i guess i just dont want it to feel right need(easier) to find my solace in all the imperfections iam rather than trying to correct those for all the things i do, i do just for my own selfish gratification howeevr naieve and crappy my reasons are i know iam wrong but cant help it makes me feel better | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17568 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
yes, very good idea. ala interconnected purposes unte each thread ki bagundedi. somehow i felt its not convincing how they changed with that tellalist attack. couple of them changed much before than that. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6014 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
Annai nenu telusukundham anu quechens aduguthunna anthe...nenedho....left hand lo mandhu seesa...right hand lo ladies ni pattukuni....manchi sedu iyyanni...addamlo..bommalu pardhu...stght ga susthe okalaga...sudaka pothe inko laga untai...sukha padamma ledha anedhi mukhyam ee type lo oohinchukokandi...I genuinely seek answers to such questions...I beleive that All we have are plausible questions and tentative answers...andhuke naaku annintilo allah malik hein | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2752 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: |
i should stop reading your posts yandamuri gaadi lekka program chesi thenguthunnav burra ni | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4261 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
appudu aa saroja deggira allu kottesi unte inka bagundedemo marv ki | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22039 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2751 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
yup aa 40k tho saroja daggiraki vellinattu chupinchi unte inka baagundedi  nee psych $%*)#$** | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6013 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
life is what happens when you are busy thinking about it..... fate dictates majority of your life's trials and tribulations........... | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22038 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Good question You can not be the villian. You need a villian so that you can feel helpless. Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6012 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
Yo I am not pointing fingers at you...I plainly ask questions....U wanting the best life can give to everyone is a naive wish...cuz that would lead to a stasis..with out definign what is best that life can give you and answering the question that if patel's best from his life was to make as much money as he can...then how does that fare against Ramulu's anticipated best and how do u ratify them????? | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4839 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.136 Rating: |
nee enks. leave me alone. Would it help you breath easy if I said "almost anything". Why are semantics important when all I am doing is wish Avatar the best? Everyone deserves the best life can offer them Der. I fervently believe in that. And then comes all the things life throws at you - being born poor, forced to become poor for whatever reason etc etc etc. I don't know why you hate me for wanting the best for everyone. I really want this to be the last post about my beliefs. I don't think I ever said what you believe in is wrong. I probably don't even know what you believe in. Be and let me be. | ||
Pavala Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 10538 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 85.80.227.204 Rating: N/A |
Power lo vunna power ni chusukoni adhi "maa power" anukuni midisipadite power poyaaka boodidha migulthundhi DB mukham ga YSR FANS virraveegutunte enni vandalu vela saaarlu cheppaamu gatam lo ? naa keyboard 0.1mm arigipoindhi kuda kevalam ee okka post ke..- OT | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17567 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Nope.its conveyed with the first intro title itself. | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17566 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
In the whole movie, ramulu character is always positive. No negative shades. Ramulu DIL cheta kidney ippinchi aa dabbutho jalsa chese type lo character petti realise ayyela chesi unte ela undedi? krish kurrod communist type annadi andukenemo | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4257 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
Brother there is a difference between SECULAR and LIBERAL(yo yo). dont mix all | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4838 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.136 Rating: |
No. The director spelled it all for you thro the story of Ramulu from his own mouth and the Patel's. The Patel said if you don't pay up I will keep your kid with me 10 years. The Patel said you paid principal, but not interest. None of those are assumptions. You hear people say those lines. Please don't tell me I was imagining those or I was hearing what I wanted to hear. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6011 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
U mean anything...really....is this optimism..... | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6010 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
This is ezzatly my conundrum annai...very very valid POV... ee DB lo so called secualrs unnar..."yevadi ishtam vadidhi...aadu danni road meedha muddhu pettukunte tappu enti ani adigar.....Ok sure...personally alanti janthuvulani chusi jaali padathanu....and will never interfere.... But where do u draw a line...tommorow...I walk into someones house and shoot him and say hey I am a liberal who believes in free will so I shit u out of choice ante?? Then we bring constraint saying one shud not hurt someone physically....OK a defeat still will make room for it... then I ask a question..if ur acts cause me emotional hurt...say in this case to parents...then how can the liberals discern between emotional hurt and physical hurt....which is greater??? A lot of western folks reply to me that this regressive mapping to fundamentals shud stop at the physical level...then my immediate question is then how do you explain people who resort to sucides out of emotional hurt...people who recede into irrevokable depression out of emotional hurt??? clearly emotional hurt is as potent as physical hurt..... At that point every body starts claiming that well at that rate we cant make any classification of personal freedom...which is the truth....personal freedom is a myth...unless u are ready to disassociate completely with everything around you.... I moot abt these questions regularly...moreso for my own answers than anything else | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17565 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Basky thats done to create a psychological sympathy wave in the mind of the audience. Avi stereotype characters where u have no other go,but to start sympathizing with the character, which is beaten to death formulaic way of making movies | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4837 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.136 Rating: |
That's good to hear bro. I wish you the very best in all your future endeavors. Just remember that those of us who are educated and able can do anything if we have have the will. Be positive, patient, and keep in touch with near and dear. They are our anchor in all the good and bad times. | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4253 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: |
yes thats some reality shown. why a POOJARI is always shown as POOR. Never shown having CAR/RICH house etc. BRAHMI jokes cheppodhu. There are certain sections which in real life depiscts that. Weaver kooda anthe. if he is shows as RICH PMPOUS you will say ITS NOT REAL. can you pls answer why ATHADU etc movies lo POOJARI ni eppudu POOR choopistharu. SYMPATHY kosama or real-life ki deggirala untundhi ani daani kosama. | ||
Executor Junior Artist Username: Executor Post Number: 238 Registered: 04-2010 Posted From: 65.121.139.2 Rating: N/A |
seems like the movie is worth a watch. There sure won't be this much discussion about story, plots, characters, logic etc if it's just one of those run of the mill movies. ee Weekend ki set chestha | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22037 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
 Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2747 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
deepbluester@gmail.com | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17564 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
right from the word go. his character enters and u see what he does..sirisilla textile weaver. and u start sympathising him because u know in real life that there are issues with weavers | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4252 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
annai KARMA acts same life lo effect authaya. or will it get into next life. just like we got from previous life. | ||
Mallik Moderator Username: Mallik Post Number: 10282 Registered: 10-2008 Rating: N/A |
Movie choodaledu.. but stitly on this comment.. Forget about india.. ikkada H1's on desi companies are kinda bonded labor ae kadaa.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4251 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
kikiki..... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 3813 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
Is someone responsible for the way of life, we line in today? who helped the society to grow in to what it is today, who is responsible for it? if someone is responsible for the way of live we have today, how about the good and bad(which is purely subjective) that is part of the society. essentially, where do we draw line between what you can feel good about, and feel bad about it? evari karma ki vaare badhyulu anukunte, does karma include an act of not doing something when you can do a certain act? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4250 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
How did you know he was exploited. I did not sense in intial part. after seeing the Interest and other gory dialogues of the PATEL I realised he was exploited on INTREST wrongly done | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17563 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Patel guy needed someone to work in his place. why didn't his DIL go for that job instead of his son(because ramulu is old). why did they never opted for a swap? | ||
Pavala Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 10535 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 85.80.227.204 Rating: N/A |
tamud nee mail id ettu Power lo vunna power ni chusukoni adhi "maa power" anukuni midisipadite power poyaaka boodidha migulthundhi DB mukham ga YSR FANS virraveegutunte enni vandalu vela saaarlu cheppaamu gatam lo ? naa keyboard 0.1mm arigipoindhi kuda kevalam ee okka post ke..- OT | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17562 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
But the director forces you to assume that he is being exploited right from the word go. Ramulu, textile weaver, sirisilla. | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4249 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
if ramulu did not pay up, his GRANDSON will be in QUARY work for 10 years free. Did you forget that condition. PATNAM pampistha, 10 years pani cheyipostha antadu kadha. what it means finally, GRANDSON Life career spolied by exploitation ye kadha. If grandson is educated, he can remove the exploitation as depected in lastscene where he calucalted the CORRECT INTREST. | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2745 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
ok this was exploitation - the interest part | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2744 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
lack of education was referred to as a lack of chance for a better and fulfilling life, not as a reason for exploitation ramulu character refers to his grandson should be educated so he can eat 3 times a day since he would have better options in life | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4836 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.137 Rating: |
I don't think the story has anything to do with his golden heart. But yes, what you see in the movie is that he is poor, for some reason he borrowed money from the patel and since they are poor and can't make enough their loan keeps on growing. He gets rid of the principal by selling one of his kidneys. But the patel keeps pestering him for interest (excessive amount in the first place and wrong math) for which they have to sell another kidney. That's what the movie shows you. There are no assumptions. And if you don't call what the Patel did is exploitation - the wrong interest part at the least - then I don't know what exploitation is. Regarding what der said may be he is alluding to me, may be he is not. I dont know what I am - N hater, n fan, pseudo liberal, liberal, brhamin hater, muslim lover, brhamin lover, muslim hater, so I don't care to answer. I am just a human being who feels for others in need. You can hate me all you want for that. | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2743 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
no you shouldnt from a movie perspective where did they even refer to it as that way it was just shown of the crap he was going through, more circumstantial than a singular villain taking revenge on him | ||
Pavala Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 10533 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 85.80.227.204 Rating: N/A |
der tamud h r u Power lo vunna power ni chusukoni adhi "maa power" anukuni midisipadite power poyaaka boodidha migulthundhi DB mukham ga YSR FANS virraveegutunte enni vandalu vela saaarlu cheppaamu gatam lo ? naa keyboard 0.1mm arigipoindhi kuda kevalam ee okka post ke..- OT | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4245 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
if RAMULU has bad bad character also It doesnt make difference. STILL HE chances are there for exploitation. Reason was clearly told, LACK OF EDUCATION. | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4243 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
I am not assuming anything. if you take a 15 lakh loan and somehow struggles to repay it. then 1st question I will ask you is WHY DID YOU TAKE LOAN WHEN YOU ARE NOT SURE of REPAYING IT. ani... OK naa, baguntunda appudu!!! | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17561 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
adi kadu mama. the moment u see a old textile weaver, should one assume he is good at heart and he is being exploited? | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17560 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
first hand info na? assumption aa idi? don't assume anything just like that. | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2742 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
3 hr movie na tv serial na ramulu ki dabbulu enduku avsaram ayyayi, koduku ela sacchipoyaadu, manoj bajpai ni harrass chesthunna inspector ki muslims ante enduku manta , ivanni chesukuntu pothe inka ainatte | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6005 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
Annai I have lived in villages...and know a thing or two about poverty...his question is not abt poverty ...it is about how certain people with some secular liberal lenaings still can comply sympathy and craving for equality in that framework...as their disposed philosophy itself is an anti thesis to such notions | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4241 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
post 4235??? | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4240 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
Mav, Your are born rich. You will never know it. unless you have a village type living or made some study in those economic areas | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4835 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.137 Rating: |
I am movie lover too, nannu maree kooralo karivepaku la teesipadestunnav :-) I thought the movie is well made despite some flaws. To me all the stories made sense. I kept coming back b'coz in so many posts the stories were being questioned. And yes, it was emotional for me. In some scenes when people were laughing all I was seeing was the poverty. May be for second viewing I can leave the emotional part of my brain at home. | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17559 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
good to hear that | ||
Avatar Junior Artist Username: Avatar Post Number: 436 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 76.16.78.106 Rating: N/A |
nope gk not at all ... meeru cheppina daanlo i did not feel an ounce of rudeness ... they were hard hitting facts but i cud understand your p.o.v on the whole mess ... many of which made me think after i came out of tht phase and made up with gf. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 6002 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
This is actually a very consistent and intelligent question...the so called sympathisers here (in this thread) if I am right are so called secular liberals ( which to me is hypocrisy redefined)... Liberalism by its very foundation believes in free will...anyone who believes in freewill trying to justify inequality is a big logical faux paus....if free will is the order of the world then everyones destiny is solely a by product of such an implication....and there never be any associated remorse or sympathy to that...... | ||
Sachin Hero Username: Sachin Post Number: 16310 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 198.204.133.208 Rating: N/A |
coke...endi neee gola..... | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22032 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
cool. Now it is clear to me. neeku emotional aga guchukundi cinema for personal reasons. as a serious movie lover, I had some complaints. adhi dhaa matter I rarely see people with your level of compassion.  to uSimha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17558 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
How did you start sympathising ramulu? Why did he borrow money from patel in the first place | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4834 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.137 Rating: |
nenu naku Vedam enduku nachindo rasa. aa taruvata thread went somewhere else. | ||
Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 6567 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14 Rating: |
r u guys still talking about movie?  @home today... so didn't get to follow the thread :-)If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4833 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.137 Rating: |
huh? when did I say a word about exploitation? you might think poor people trying to grow out of their poverty as exploitation. I don't. I wouldn't say I feel guilty for being rich, but I feel sad about the inequalities in this world. I frequently worry that we are not making the world any better for the next generation - equality in wealth, health, educatin and peace of mind. I feel as a person it's my responsibility to do my bit to make this world a better place for everyone. When I feel depressed the idea that i am born to do something for next human being is what keeps me moving. maree ekkuva matladinatlu anipiste sorry. This is just my view of life. | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4832 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.137 Rating: |
I never donate money to anyone who asks for one promising that they are going to educate poor kids..I am not enamored of this kind of emotional blackmailing... I make sure that my money reaches places which atleast assure that people who receive the money will for sure make a difference.....for that it needs the right association and the right kids no less ----------------------------------- helping doesn't always have to be for education alone. There are people out there who can't a surgery urgently needed, can't go to their daily wages job b'coz they have rheumatic arthritis or asthma. There are zillion reasons for which people need money. Some tend to see that and help if they can and others tend to not do so for any number of reasons. There are people who say "vallu atla annitiki kathalu cheptaru". I always tend to think when someone is stretching his hand and asking for money, there is a good reason. nuvvichina danto tagutaru, pekata aadutaru etc etc are not for this thread. | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4831 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.137 Rating: |
Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense I guess. Avatar Bro, I wanted to say sorry to you regarding that thread you posted about moving back to India. Whatever I said about individuals being responsible for their action is what I do belive, but I wasn't sure if it sounded rude and cruel to you when you are going thro tough times in your personal life. I am sorry if I hurt you inadvertantly. | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7474 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.205.12.83 Rating: |
Cocanada, Mee post 22011 chuste ala anipinchindi - may be I misread it - sorry  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4236 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: |
SEX is part of life. its a truth no one can deny. Its spread over whole world. I dont want to say more about IT here. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22019 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
 when did I say that you have to be guilty for doing charity? Cinema context lo adigaanu. that movie deals with exploited people. not just plain poor people. somehow I felt the movie projected all rich people as villians who exploit the poor Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7473 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.205.15.28 Rating: |
Cocanada, Compassion and empathy anevi untayi ani marchipoyara ? Just because we believe we in the capitalistic(???) idea of everyone gets what they deserve - does not mean any charity is done to assuage guilt at being richer even if someone falls of their own negligence we instinctively extend a helping hand to help them up - it is not out of guilt that we are standing movie inka chudaledu I may or maynot like it - was just surprised at your comment about guiltaa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17556 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Anushka life oka vedam aa? vedam fans cinema bagundi anandi..its a good movie, ok,.. kaani pratidi justify cheyyakandi.. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22016 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: |
who?  Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4235 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: |
guttonkay, your die-hard fan waiting for scene by scene review.. in retailed...detailed  | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4830 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.134 Rating: |
What does ur 5000 or 50000 do to anybody if it doesnt kindle the light of so called learning in anybody...So by virtue all poor people struggle to make a living aa??? idekkadi logic....If what u said were true...all u need to eradicate poverty is total communism..isn't it.... At the end of the day...rich and poor are an invariant class segmentation that is bound to happen....as long as u ascribe so called happiness to wealth..... -=---------------------------------------------------------- -------- I really don't want this thread to change into something about me. I never said happiness==wealth. I also didn't say how I help any of those people. I want to see people grow and I help where I can. Vedam worked for me b'coz I could identify with the various struggles emotional/financial and otherwise of the people in the film. We all grow on a daily basis. I think what Vedam showed the best was just that - growth in individuals. | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 4234 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: |
4 vedas, panchama vedam ani kooda untaaru. 5 stories ki ala set ayyindhi | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17555 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
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Kadapafan Side Hero Username: Kadapafan Post Number: 4681 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 78.86.214.215 Rating: N/A |
if post is related to Vedam, poor people are robbed ani choopistaadu akkada thats due to lack of education | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5996 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
Apparently andariki teliyalsina neethi...ani ta..... | ||
Kadapafan Side Hero Username: Kadapafan Post Number: 4680 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 78.86.214.215 Rating: N/A |
I havent heard of any one saying this so far certainly you need to do that, but too much of probing also doesnt make any sense, manam kharchu pettedi manaku pedda amount kaakapovachu but it will help them a lot | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22014 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
 Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 17554 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Intakee Vedam title justification enti?  | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5995 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
Anna gaaru nenu cheppindhi inko sari chadvandi.....I never said poor people shudn't be helped...what I am against is this notion that....poor people are all these good people who have been robbed off a chance...its not true and its also not true that all rich people have issues with their egos... I never donate money to anyone who asks for one promising that they are going to educate poor kids..I am not enamored of this kind of emotional blackmailing... I make sure that my money reaches places which atleast assure that people who receive the money will for sure make a difference.....for that it needs the right association and the right kids no less | ||
Kadapafan Side Hero Username: Kadapafan Post Number: 4678 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 78.86.214.215 Rating: |
It is not about making poor rich by giving money I dont know whether you have done charity in your life, but I will tell you my personal experience, We have celebrated Pawan Kalyan birthday in a orphan home in 2004. Its a orphan home which houses about 50-60 orphan students. We have spent about 2-3 hours there and gave some 50K to sponsor education for 10 students for a year. People like us who donate will get education for kids which will enlighten them. Who knows what they will become in future? They might do better than you and help few more people to make society better. Neeku inko example cheptaa, when we celebrated chiranjeevi's birthday in 2006, we helped a kid for their heart operation with some money, details exact gaa gurtu levu, but u should see the kid and talk to her/his parents to understand what it means to undergo that pain. Guttonkay cheppedi neeku artham kaadu, no poor people is looking to get money to become rich or become wealthier than they are, they need help where only money can buy things, akkada kooda help cheyyakunte ee jeevitaaniki artham ledu | ||
Avatar Junior Artist Username: Avatar Post Number: 434 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 66.196.163.80 Rating: |
i thought it is completely believable ... his struggle to find the 40k by stooping to some of the lowest levels ... krish did the best character research for this role hats off actually! AA cud go to great extents to make his present with the gf as best as possible ... ya parents of the girl will do bg check on AA b4 marrying etc but he was a con and he trusted himself to pull it off and moreover his love grew into something genuine but manic and that blinded his conscience ... which surfaces completely only when he is abt 2 pay the money for the tickets. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22011 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Are you guilty of being rich? Do you think exploitation is the only way you can make money? Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5993 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
I think its comparatively very high in Indian cinema.... Luck and chance are the overriding factors in majority of populace's success in reality | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5992 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
There are people who are poor for a reason and there are people who are wealthy for a reason...and there is everything to it.... | ||
Kadapafan Side Hero Username: Kadapafan Post Number: 4677 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 78.86.214.215 Rating: N/A |
 I thought its too high in Hollywood that underdog winning every time, not Indian cinema | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5991 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
emotional blackmailing is a highpoint in Indian cinema....so called underdog winning every time is shown as though he wins sheerly by hardwork.....the cruel truth is that luck dictates the scope of any ones success to an extent of 90% | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5990 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: |
idedho I am good...I think good ane statement type lo undhi...so whats the big deal if someone is struggling??? I cant understand this moral quagmire that people emotionally drag others into??? What does ur 5000 or 50000 do to anybody if it doesnt kindle the light of so called learning in anybody...So by virtue all poor people struggle to make a living aa??? idekkadi logic....If what u said were true...all u need to eradicate poverty is total communism..isn't it.... At the end of the day...rich and poor are an invariant class segmentation that is bound to happen....as long as u ascribe so called happiness to wealth..... Its not wealth that shud entail consideration...its the potential to use any amount of wealth to intellectually trigger himself to intellectual heights...IMO | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4825 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.19.202 Rating: |
In a movie with ensemble cast, multiple stories different people identify with different things. Here is why I liked Vedam. I am an idealist. I am personality type ISFJ. Movies like Vedam are made for people like me. AA's story - though I thought the reasoning for him wanting to get 40k is flawed, his struggles and transformation are very well portrayed. If it was in my hands I would make the basti becoming jubilee hills2. I totally get poor people's lives and wanting to change for the better. MM's story - I can understand where MM is coming from in terms of not wanting to follow his father's footsteps. He being a selfish man is probably a part of that. I totally identified with his girlfriend. I am the same kind of person. If I have a man in my life like MM, I would see the good in him and want to change the selfish part. I absolutely liked his transformation and think he died a good death. I would've made his lifestory more polished. But may be the director wanted to be subtle so those of intellectuals would get it and others can complain all they want ;-) Anushka's story - I am a woman. If I don't get it no one else probably could. redlight districts are a fact of life. Selling kids into prostitution is a fact of life. Someone wanting to get out of it and do better and wanting to make their own dime is a fine idea. I think her transformation was a good one too. Goodluck making it a reality though. Old man's story - Stories like this are all over India even to this day. bonded labor vundo ledo naku teliyadu. appula meeda vaddeelu decades patu kattatam matram inka vundi. It didn't have to be bonded labor. If you think of someone wanting to do better and limited by lack of resources, you would get this story. When I go to India I almost always come back empty handed. I give to watchmans, autowallahs, charities, maa paleru, paleru manavadu. My heart just sinks when I see all these people wanting to have a good life just like us and struggling. That is why I identified with Vedam. I know at the end of the day it's just a movie, still .... | ||
Kodamasimham Side Hero Username: Kodamasimham Post Number: 2553 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 66.210.29.139 Rating: |
did u? | ||
Comedian Username: Twitter Post Number: 1841 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.206 Rating: N/A |
???-nenu maathram pull ga kannekt ayyipoya especially Ramulu thatha 'padhama mana dabbule.. ramu badi ki pothade sadhuvukuntade..' wow heart touching man and 'johar cable raju ' really touching http://i48.tinypic.com/2nvgvvm.gif http://i45.tinypic.com/ek2qt4.gif naku NBK action istam like better than chiru - Adaviramudu | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22002 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
I want to be like him . Anyway...nee point naaku ardham ayindi. u win Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4820 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.19.202 Rating: |
ante tidtav kani, u think I connected b'coz I am from jubilee hills basti? I don't know which movies you liked but I think your logic is flawed. Other than dollar dreams and Ganesh ye movie lo hero/heroine software industry lo vundi? Why do we connect to all those? Let's say you liked chiruta did you ever behave anywhere like that hero in Chiruta? If you liked Bindaas are they faction problems in ur family? If you liked Arya2 were you ever a psychoman like AA? nee logic naku ekkaledu bro. | ||
Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 13373 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Super gaa kanipettaru bro... psychology lo emaina major chesaaraa? ------------ meeru annadhi adhey ga bro mee review lo? | ||
Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 6566 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14 Rating: |
Commercially, usa lo big anukuntaa... Sat late night show kuda housefull edison lo. 2 extra shows vesaaru annaru sat'day evening... If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 22000 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: |
Gutty Nuvvu connect ayipoyaavu. Just like Ashton connected to YMC. Once you are emotionally convinced, you will forgive any mistake. Nenu enduku connect avvaledo alochistunnaa. - Anuska thed. Obviously I can not connect to this - Nagayya. I havent heard of bonded labor in recent times - MM. There is no depth. - MB. I am neither like that inspector or MB. - AA - I am neither jubilee basti or jubilee hills Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 6565 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14 Rating: |
Super gaa kanipettaru bro... psychology lo emaina major chesaaraa?  If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you | ||
Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 13372 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
hyder bro, get ready for some pounding now. hehehee. | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4819 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.19.202 Rating: |
intead of just saying I couldn't connect, may be you can elucidate on why you felt you couldn't connect? | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 4818 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.19.202 Rating: |
I typically agree with Deepa Garimella's reviews. Not this time. Vedam's problem is that it grapples with several issues at once. The layers, they may have been a writer's delight, but the ever-fattening basket of topics that Krish wants to try his hand on gets tiresome at times. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------- I don't think Krish were trying to handle any of these issues. He just used stories of common folk who are/were grappling with everyday issues. They all had a goal AA - 40k and transformation of his life from c/o jubilee hills basti to c/o jubilee hills old man - 40k and transformation of his grand kid's life MM - his dream gig Anushka - her dream gig of having her own *company* I think the director successful used whatever their issues to bring them to a point where they achieved their goal or ahcieved a much more meaningful transformation. | ||
Kodamasimham Side Hero Username: Kodamasimham Post Number: 2552 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 66.210.29.138 Rating: |
Andaru baagundi annadaanni manam baagoledu ante we will have separate identity ani anukoni baagoledu antunnara? | ||
Film_fan Hero Username: Film_fan Post Number: 12535 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 81.138.131.153 Rating: N/A |
why is it titled Vedam? We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle | ||
Ruj Side Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 2120 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 132.189.76.18 Rating: |
nenu pichi pichi ga feel ayya mama...chivariki johar anantha raju anapudu ayithe romalu nikkapoduchukunayi.. Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21997 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
I went lil overboard with the leftist agenda thing. but rest of my review is reasonable i guess. Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Methhanithodugu Side Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 4642 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.73.247 Rating: N/A |
Deepa Garimella / fullhyd.com 7.5 / 10 In Krish's sepia-tinted world, the rich have it easy. The right-wingers have it easy. The money-extorting goons have it easy. The kidney-selling middlemen have it easy. The exploited, on the other hand, have sensitivity, sarcasm and a sense of humour. And one hell of a writer. So, Vedam. Where thumbing your nose at the shallowness of the wealthy feels classy. Indeed, Vedam runs the risk of being termed too leftist for commercial taste, if only it didn't get so many things right. The plot traces several threads that all converge in the city of Hyderabad. Cable Raju (Allu Arjun) is a cable operator who lives a wretched life in Jubilee Hills slum, and whose "love" lies right across the drain, in the real, moneyed, Jubilee Hills. He's netted her for her money, and she's sufficiently airheaded to believe that he's rich and educated. Saroja (Anushka) is a star prostitute in Amalapuram, who is set to escape to Hyderabad along with her friend, in order to set up her own "company". Vivek Chakravarty (Manchu Manoj) is an army officer's son who suffers internal conflicts that only the well-heeled can afford to suffer – he wants to become a rock star. Then, there's a destitute weaver family from Karimnagar, whose school-going child is being forced into bonded labour. To free the kid, the family must pay up an obscene amount of money – the exact obscene amount, by the way, that our cable-wallah friend must pay a hotel for one New Year's Eve party that his girl wants to attend. A Hindu-Muslim conflict is ambitiously shoved into the script. Manoj Bajpai plays Raheemuddin, a man who is wronged by a seemingly insensitive police department thanks to his religion. Vedam's problem is that it grapples with several issues at once. The layers, they may have been a writer's delight, but the ever-fattening basket of topics that Krish wants to try his hand on gets tiresome at times. The film also moves into melodrama territory some times – for example, the cliched emergency care sequence in the hospital, where the heartless doctors want a police report before saving a life. However, thanks to its length, the fun is that before you wonder if it's biting off more than it can chew, you realize it's even done with dessert. Needless to say, the "have versus have-nots" satire seemingly tops the list. Then, of course, are the all-too-obvious issues – communal clashes, kidney trade, the police force's coziness with the prostitute class. Neatly conceptualized scenes showcasing humanity and goodness, though, are the snippets that end up blowing you away. In fact, sometimes, Vedam's little touches and sub-texts make a larger impact than the headlining themes. The story-telling style screams new-age, thanks to the spontaneity in performances and the subtlety in the humour. The only aberration is Anushka's track, which is in stark contrast to the rest of the flick – her portions are characterized by bizarrely theatrical acting and retro music. And then, there's the cast. Though the 3 leads share almost negligible screen space (and Arjun and Manoj share almost none), the fact that this is a multi-starrer is a private victory for Telugu movie fans. Cable Raju is as likely to be stuck in Tollywood memory as Gaali Seenu was, and that is partly to Allu Arjun's credit. His is not a role that is art-movie-ishly extraordinary, but his energy is infectious, and he's brilliant as always. Cable Raju, in fact, is largely a comedy track, and one of the most soothing things this movie offers. Anushka is quite striking in every frame, and her real triumph is in the fact that she's irreplaceable. The person who plays Karpooram, her hijra sidekick, is brilliant, too. An all-too-evident oddity is the fact that Manchu Manoj is credited for making a "guest appearance", when clearly there's more. And if indeed there was much more to that "more", it's a pity we get to see only what we did – his could have been an interesting track. And there's more - Satyam Rajesh, Raghu Babu and Brahmanandam pitch in for more comic relief. There's even more – Posani features in the flick. Keeravani is spot on with the emotions dealt with in every number; and also with every character that the background track is set against. The visuals are slick, with visibly western influences. This one is a movie for several kinds of fans of Telugu cinema. Hopefully, you fit in somewhere. CM42014 Disclaimer: These recommendations are based on the theory of pallkoll analysis and personal observations. This does not claim for profit. We are not responsible for any losses made by traders. It is only the outlook of the market with reference to its previous performance. You are advised to take your position with your sense and judgment. | ||
Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 6562 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14 Rating: |
Just read the Platy and Coke's review. More or less i agree with them for the most part. I wonder everyone here really liked it or just saying so because critic's said it is a class film. (Obviously, NRIs don't want to be called as "mass".. at least majority) Stop calling it a revolutionary film just b'coz he didn't stick to regular formula. Diro is not even sincere in his attempt. He went for Anushka sotry just to get some commercial mileage. Ramulu / bunny threads were some what better. Spoiler alert Final word: Ilaanti sacrificing climaxes choosthe chaala touching anipinchaali if you really connect with the characters. If you didn't feel for the two guys then dir failed miserably. If god doesn't like the way I live, let him tell me, not you |
