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Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 3553 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
Ishan, I totally agree with your post 3914(I agree 100%). Still, i i am convinced Rajhneesh is the oly enlightened person in our era.Another person i can think of is Chandrasekhara saraswathi.. "Others are no way comparable with these people" ani naa abhipraayam | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21146 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Bhayya...gone are the days when I am convinced with one piece of information and promise loyalty for rest of my life  Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3914 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.238.221 Rating: N/A |
Bro - I understand what you are saying. But my belief is that when it comes to spiritual matters, manohshuddi of guru is "the most" important factor. In philosophical matters, talking is pretty easy. Any person who has read few books and has a talent of making persuading sentences can influence spiritual seekers. But the actual spiritual pursuit can be inspired only from a pure guru (or at least not an impure guru). Readings and talking can just give us information. But only a soul can stir another soul. Now when newbies who are entering in to these things must be cautioned regarding the dangers too. Allegations on rajneesh are not small. He was convicted of many wrong doings. He might have said certain beautiful things that totally make sense, but as I said all you need for that kind of quotes is an articulate writer or speaker. Despite knowing all the accusations, if you still have been following his teachings, I think you might have a very good reason for that and I respect it. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 3546 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
No comments on allegations on Rajneesh. Yedi thappu..yedi oppu ani nenu decide chyyalenu. anduke nenu cheppanu"rajneesh maatrame enlightned ani nenu anukontunnaanu" ani. Ade truth kaanakkarledu. Adi naa perosnal feeling maatrame. Nenu argue cheyyalenu. I know sukhbodhaananda too. I presonally met him in chennai. | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21121 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
evaru edi cheppina sdi Sankaracharya philosophy ye Art of Living lo 'Sankaracharya' ante master of masters ani poojistaaru literally.....poojistaaru oka thella aayana instructor. first day of the course. Sankaracharya ki pooja chesi course modalu pettaru Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Hail_the_labour Side Hero Username: Hail_the_labour Post Number: 3350 Registered: 06-2008 Posted From: 75.185.82.44 Rating: N/A |
ishan bhayya, did u ever read/see MANASE relax. by swami sukhabodhananda. code tammud: mana guruvu garu Audi sankaracharya rocks. migatha vallani follow ayye badulu, audi sankaracharya ni follow aithe, adhe manaku raksha | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21116 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
 Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3912 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.232.198 Rating: N/A |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Rajneeshee_assassination_p lot Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21115 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
vaaaammo identi......osho kurrod ilaati panulu cheyadam enti  Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3911 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.232.198 Rating: N/A |
* like Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3910 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.232.198 Rating: N/A |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attac k#Investigation He, unlike many other godmen was a borrower of ideas. He took ideas from the ancient religions, put them in a grinder and developed his own commandments. I don't know what truth he stuck on to, but these kind of incidents really strike wrong notes. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21110 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Makes sense
Dude, Osho blew me off. His comparison of Religion vs Cult is really awesome Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 3540 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 173.49.92.228 Rating: N/A |
//Osho is a big time bloody bugger of a philosopher of this era.// I think the other way. except Osho other so called gurus are just knowledgeable persons not realized people. The reason why I came to this conclusion: Truth and diplomacy..rendu kudaa oke chota imadalevu(like dark and light oke chota yelaa vundavo??). Rajneesh truth ke kattupadu vunnadu ..chanipoye varaku. Politicians, priests dagaara nangnaachi thanam gaa adugulu madugulu vatha ledu.. | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7374 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 166.205.15.234 Rating: |
Cocanada, I was not talking of experience as the circle, but your perception of self as the circle Agreed it is the mind throwing stuff at you , and yes turning off your mind is one way to live in the infinite present ... This is a temporary state though as it is very difficult to keep it turned off permanently How then do you leave it on and still live in the present - you take away it's ability to perceive the change in self by reducing your circle, the perception of self to zero - the age old destruction of ego-I am nothing state , or increase the circle to encompass the whole plane so any change becomes negligible and imperceptible - the I am everything state At that point there is no change to perceive or measure in your self and when you close your eyes to external references of time you are only in the present infinitesimal - like a yogi who sits in samadhi for hours but thinks he only closed his eyes for a second aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21099 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: |
the very fact that you consider experience as a circle in 2 dimensional world says it all i.e. experience requires space (area in 2 dimensional world) experience is not a point so, you can not perceive present moment with the mind its just mind throwing some garbage at you and grabbing attention of your awareness (i had 2 beers down my throat..pardon me if it is nonsense) Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7373 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: |
Its kind of difficult to communicate the idea without pictures but let me give it a try Any measurement is only possible when we perceive change-of state, size, etc. Lets say we live in a two dimensional world and time is the third dimension-the z axis. Let’s use regular shapes to make it simple-say a circle around the origin in the plane to represent a person. Now when we add the 3rd dimension, we have a stack of planes. Our plane with me(the circle) either travels along the z axis of time. Since you are the circle, then there is no way to identify where you are on the z axis. So how do we perceive time ? Identification and definition of self and then change to self. A circle is born and changes over time - let’s say radius is a function of age. R = f(z) Now the mind and memory has a record of what I was earlier and what I am now … perceptible change, helping me identify something changed and thus measure the change and the factor driving it (that is time) If what the mind perceived as the circle , that is me, became a constant, the radius became - most obvious choice a 0 , your mind stops registering change(turns off ?) - you are the same at every instance on the z axis, there is nothing to indicate distinguish when past ended and present started, present is infinite To achieve that state , you can either drive your self to that point where no change is perceptible {to the origin(singularity) or the plane in all its infinity} or turn the perception mechanism, i.e. the mind off If I confused you even more with this explanation,and it is highly likely, that I did, I will stop here aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 2532 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 69.199.68.154 Rating: N/A |
time ee kadhu manamu denni perfec t ga measure cheyyalemu.....ramana maharshi cheppina dani batti aithe...all thoughs originate from 'I'....so manamu edhi chesina daniki base I | ||
Parthasaradhi Comedian Username: Parthasaradhi Post Number: 1086 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 68.36.127.150 Rating: N/A |
thats ok. I got it. | ||
Parthasaradhi Comedian Username: Parthasaradhi Post Number: 1085 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 68.36.127.150 Rating: N/A |
edo aa vishayam alaa kudirindi. anthe. antha kanna ekkuvemi ledu eeeda. | ||
Parthasaradhi Comedian Username: Parthasaradhi Post Number: 1084 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 68.36.127.150 Rating: N/A |
Excellent. You put it nicely in other words. | ||
Methhanithodugu Side Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 4294 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.50.186 Rating: N/A |
can n e 1 tel Abt OSHO and Sex  CM42014 | ||
Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 13134 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
endhi vaya ee lolli? measuring present, past endhi idhi | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21095 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: |
Not really. Since we can not visualize 4th dimension, let us simplify the set up. Imagine the world is 2 dimensional and time is the third dimension. Now, can you rethink and explain the same concept? Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21094 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
avunaa nenu life lo first time Osho book chadivanu. he believes in free sex and free love. he doesnt believe in marriage and monogamy anukunta. Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21093 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
ante adi... aa post nenu miss ayyanu Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Stig Side Hero Username: Stig Post Number: 3233 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 74.105.123.107 Rating: N/A |
 @ ISHAN : U G Krishna murthy meeda kooda mee opinion ettandi !! ------- Only seven people have looked The Stig straight in the eyes. They are all dead now !! | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 3899 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.88.232.198 Rating: N/A |
Nice explanation. Somehow I missed it in that thread. Present is impossible to measure, because when you are involved in something - "You" will be the present and hence "you" can not measure it. And if you attempt to measure your present, you are not in it, so its not valid! @coke, Osho is a big time bloody bugger of a philosopher of this era. I will be really wary of any of his teachings. Look at the ten commandments he propounds, I bet you will laugh your ass off. Oh baby, oh baby then it fell apart, it fell apart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU&playnext_from=TL&videos=95hFNZ8XLKs | ||
Parthasaradhi Comedian Username: Parthasaradhi Post Number: 1083 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 68.36.127.150 Rating: N/A |
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Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7372 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: |
Yes - and in a different context when discussing timetravel,my son theorized it in mathematical terms The 3 Dimensional axis intersect at the point of existence of any physical entity. This point of our existence moves along the axis of time but the complete combo is only valid at a point in time...and every point along the axis is the present moment But let me use his thought and apply it to what you said - as long as you perceive the 3 dimensions , each combination of x,y,z and t axes is unique, distinct, disparate ...In addition x,y and z are also functions of time...and hence our perception of each point of time becomes very distinct too When our awareness of the three dimensions is annihilated(x=0,y=0,z=0), our perception of time is based on the changes to these is annihilated too (what you called teh absence of mind) - each point in time has an identical relative value and the present becomes infinite Did that make any sense to you ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21091 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Oh yeah. He mentioned Osho. I was in the bookstore and this title caught my attention. Finished the book in single sitting. Happens very rarely with me Krishnamurti was also saying the samething all along but naa matti burra ki Osho chepte clear ga ardham ayindi  Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT | ||
Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Comedian Username: Rekkadithe_gani_dokkadadhu Post Number: 1525 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 68.206.118.224 Rating: N/A |
try vipassana if possible.. నేను డిస్కొ చేసెప్పుడు..నీ కీ బోర్డ్ మాత్రమే పని చేయాలి...కాదని ఇంకా ఏది పని చేసినాీనీ నెక్స్ట్ పోస్ట్ ఉండదు.. ©RGD | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7371 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: |
Cocanada, Kalikaalam , I think was quoting Osho in that thread iI have not read much of Osho , will give it a try aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 21090 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
Found the answer to my question about living in the present moment in the book Awareness - by Osho Experience of the mind requires space because there is movement of the mind But present moment is a line Present moment can not be perceived by the mind. You can live in the present moment only in the absence of mind i.e. when you are your awareness in the purest form, free from memory and the mind I highly recommend this book Simha is conceptually hollywood range film - OT |
