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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 11:18 pm:       


Senapathy:

DVSK - Duryodhana character




emantivi emantivi achaarya devaa.. too much dialogue idi. movie lo dialogues tho mesmarize chesesthaadu ntr.

inka story ni change cheyyadam ki vasthe, mana desam lo eppudu mahabharath story question chese vallu untune unnaaru and this movie should be treated as an extension of it plus artistic liberty.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 06:33 pm:       


Sagar:

DD-Maha Bharath baaga follow ayyi nattu vunnavv ga




Vyasa mahrshi gaaru meeru cheppandi vintamu...
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 06:32 pm:       


111:

Endhuku gelavaleka pothadu ante..andharu chanipoyina taruvatha , Ghandhari Duryodhanudini ganga lo snamu chesi Nude ramantadhi , endhukante Ghandahri eyes ki chala power untundhi , ame kalla tho chusthe Duryodhanudi body mothham chala strong[like iron antha strong] ga maripotundhi , enka ee Gadha tho kottina emi kaadhu ani...

snamamu chesi vasthunte , krishnudi edurupadi enti ee veshamu ani adigithe , mom ela rammandhi antadu..Talli daggaraku nude velthava ante..oka gochi laaga pettukoni vesthadu. Appudu Ghandhari kalla ghantalu teesi duryodhanudinni chusthindhi..ame chusinatha varaku body motham chala strong ga avutundhi except for Todalu...

andhuke Bheemudu entha kottina emi kaadhu duryodhanudiki , chivaraki krishnudu toda meedha kottamantadu...adhi story




DD-Maha Bharath baaga follow ayyi nattu vunnavv ga :D
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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 06:23 pm:       

Suyodhana himself selects bheema as his equal when given a choice to choose who he wants to fight after coming out of the dwaipayana sarovaram he chooses bheema because he knows the rest are no match for him. though he knew that if he chose somebody else he would win he had lost the will to live on after losing everything in the war and so he had to fight that one last fight with Bheema because that was what he always wanted to do and was prevented number of times from doing - hand to hand combat with bheema alone in gadha yuddham
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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 06:18 pm:       


Sagar:

adhantha sollu saami.... Upper portion of thigh antey adhe ga.... :-)
inka duryodhanuDi mother choodaTam,covered, uncovered .... antha DD modifications :-)http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/icons/quote3.gif

why bheema was not able to WIN against Dhuryodhana ani cheppaTaaniki.. ila kunTI saaku peTTarr... lekka prakaram.. nyayam ga choosthey.... DuryodhanuDini emi cheyyaleka.. B* baaadhesaaadu... Bheemudu.. period




that is not true. power wise bheema is more powerful than anybody in both of the armies, krishna himself says before the way. bheema has already killed hidimba,jarasandha, bakasura,keechaka and is destined to kill suyodhana. he alone kills all the 99 kaurava brothers and the 7 akshauhinis of army and you are saying he cannot defeat suyodhana?

two things to consider
the pratignya by bheema during the draupadi vastrapaharanam that he will break duryodhana's thighs(because he asked panchali to sit on his thighs) has to be fulfilled, according to the rule of gadha yuddham attacking a person below the waist is not valid. So if bheema sticks to his pratignya he will have to break the rule of gadha yudham and for the sake of his vow he does it ultimately.

duryodhana is indeed provided the protection by his mother knowing that the dvandha yuddham between both would be inevitable and bheema would try and fulfill his pratigyna.
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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 06:01 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

Krishna is aware of this and he makes bheema instigate duryodhana to get out of water and fight and rest is history as paul harvey said




after he cameout of water , dharmaraju will give choice to Duryodhana to fight with anyone of their 5 brothers..he chooses Bheema..
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:59 pm:       

Absolutely, the focus was more on elevating the roles NTR was playing rather than authenticity. To portray Draupadi as someone interested in Karna was utterly ridiculous. I wouldn't deny his acting prowess, however it always comes with his idiosyncrasies :-)
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:57 pm:       


Sagar:

KarnuDi ... Kavacham chaala strong anTaarrr... so yudham ki poye mundhu.. kunthi devi avi aduguthaadhi......




nee bondha kunti adagatamu emiti..? Indrudu oka brahmin roopam lo vacchi aduguthadu anukonta...but not kunti..
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:55 pm:       


Sagar:

baabai..... idhi wrong... DhuryodhanuDini gelavaleka pothaaD... Bheema.... appudu Krishna.... Bheemudu ki cheptaaD... akkada koTTamani.....

adhi vishayam.. thoDalu medha koTTadam ... kaadhu




Endhuku gelavaleka pothadu ante..andharu chanipoyina taruvatha , Ghandhari Duryodhanudini ganga lo snamu chesi Nude ramantadhi , endhukante Ghandahri eyes ki chala power untundhi , ame kalla tho chusthe Duryodhanudi body mothham chala strong[like iron antha strong] ga maripotundhi , enka ee Gadha tho kottina emi kaadhu ani...

snamamu chesi vasthunte , krishnudi edurupadi enti ee veshamu ani adigithe , mom ela rammandhi antadu..Talli daggaraku nude velthava ante..oka gochi laaga pettukoni vesthadu. Appudu Ghandhari kalla ghantalu teesi duryodhanudinni chusthindhi..ame chusinatha varaku body motham chala strong ga avutundhi except for Todalu...

andhuke Bheemudu entha kottina emi kaadhu duryodhanudiki , chivaraki krishnudu toda meedha kottamantadu...adhi story
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:51 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

Suyodhana has his mother's protection on his body where she looks at him after opening her eyes for first time (since she closed it after he marriage to Dritarashtra) and it makes his body like diamond except the portion he covered which is upped thigh.




adhantha sollu saami.... Upper portion of thigh antey adhe ga.... :-)
inka duryodhanuDi mother choodaTam,covered, uncovered .... antha DD modifications :-)

why bheema was not able to WIN against Dhuryodhana ani cheppaTaaniki.. ila kunTI saaku peTTarr... lekka prakaram.. nyayam ga choosthey.... DuryodhanuDini emi cheyyaleka.. B* baaadhesaaadu... Bheemudu.. period :-)
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:29 pm:       


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what i means it from the 6 who ever kills 1 of the rest but you are right
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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:28 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

Bheema is physically stronger than Duryodhana , probably the strongest in both sides of the armies but duryodhana is more skillful to the extent that balarama says he is the better of two.




SUYODHAN : technically skilled a little bit more than BHEEMA in GADHA (manjrekar,dravid,dravid type)

BHEEMA: is a fierceful warrior, has enormous COURAGE&BALAM. he is said to be equal to VEYYI ENGULU and he is good in MALLA-YUDDHAM type also.
moreover BHEEMA blood is boiling and his anger/blood/revenge seeking thirst is more a powerful weapon than suyodhan.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:25 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

Bheema,Jarasandha, Bakasura, Hidimbi, Keechaka,Duryodhana. The story is if any one of these 6 kills the other first then he would kill the rest.




adjust to correct you. its 5 . its 5 and among who kills 1st, will kill alll the rest
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:22 pm:       

ok idi naku interesting topic kabatti i thought of sharing my views

NTR movies lo depending on which part he is playing the script is manipulated and importance given to the character. I am saying this despite being his fan, there is nobody like him who can do it.


Regarding Bheema -

He was one of the 6 or 7 people who were born in the same astrological combination between Magha and swati nakshatrams - Bheema,Jarasandha, Bakasura, Hidimbi, Keechaka,Duryodhana. The story is if any one of these 6 kills the other first then he would kill the rest.

Jarasandha was extremely powerful and was aiming to get some magical powers by sacrificing 100 kings which is why Sri krishna takes him to kill jarasandha. Now to kill Jarasandha the person needs to be extremely powerful because when he was born he was born as to separate pieces and he was attached by a rakshasi called Jara which is why his name is Jarasandha.
So when Hidimba was killed by Bheema the precedent was set.

Bheema is physically stronger than Duryodhana , probably the strongest in both sides of the armies but duryodhana is more skillful to the extent that balarama says he is the better of two.

Suyodhana has his mother's protection on his body where she looks at him after opening her eyes for first time (since she closed it after he marriage to Dritarashtra) and it makes his body like diamond except the portion he covered which is upped thigh. Suyodhana also knows a mantra which if chanted by doing jalasthambana for 7 days would bring back all of the dead alive( this is a boon from rishi durvasa according to some texts) which is why he takes refuge in the lake after karna dies so he can do the japam. Krishna is aware of this and he makes bheema instigate duryodhana to get out of water and fight and rest is history as paul harvey said
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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 02:01 pm:       

//Movies ki historical accuracy enduku? entertaining gaa vundali...anthe!//

Yi point tho chusukonte..Moive is good.

"kaani Mahabharatha laanti epic ni ishtam vachinaltu maaristh eyelaa?/" ante maatram yi cinema raitng 2/10
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:35 pm:       


Senapathy:

Karnudi kavacha kundalalu adigindi Indrudu kadaaa




You are right.. Kunthi devi putra bhiksha pettamani adugutundi.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:32 pm:       


Sagar:




Karnudi kavacha kundalalu adigindi Indrudu kadaaaa
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:28 pm:       


Senapathy:

Mee opinions eeda ettandi




NTR ye pouranikam role vesina, andulo heros villains ayipotaru.. villains herolu ayipotaru. Lekapothe, Bheemudu, Arjunudu etc ni villains gaa choopinchadam emiti.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:16 pm:       

Everything is fair in love & war anTaaru choooDu... idhe :D
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:14 pm:       

KarnuDi ... Kavacham chaala strong anTaarrr... so yudham ki poye mundhu.. kunthi devi avi aduguthaadhi...... :-)
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:13 pm:       

even Drona Charyudi vishasyam lo kooda anthey... yekanga Darma Raj ye anTaaDu.... "Ashwadhaama hathahaa ... " ani... taruvatha manasulo.. Kunjaraha anukunTaadu :D kikikik
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:12 pm:       

lekka prakaram yudham lo akkada koTTakooDadhu... asalu naDumuki kindha konTTakooDadhu... kaani dhuryodhanuDi.. buDDal meedha koDathaaDu BheemuDu :D
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:10 pm:       


Woodpecker:

adi Doordarshan masala anukunta




yeah
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:09 pm:       

KarnuDu.... Radham Tyre panture ayyindhi choosthuntey... baanam vestaaD ArjunuDu :D
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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:09 pm:       


Sagar:

thoDalu medha koTTadam ... kaadhu


adi Doordarshan masala anukunta
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:09 pm:       

BheesmuDini...... tho direct ga yudham chesi gelavaleru ani telisi.... SIKANDI ayithey Bheeshmudu yudham cheyyaD ani.. SikhanDi ni pakkana peTTe.. koDathaaar :D
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:07 pm:       


Senapathy:

Duryodhana and Bheema were equal in fight and Krishna suggested Bheema to hit on the thighs (the only place where Duryodhana was weak) to end the conflict. Movie lo Bheemudu tannulu tinadam showed poor taste.





baabai..... :D idhi wrong... DhuryodhanuDini gelavaleka pothaaD... Bheema.... appudu Krishna.... Bheemudu ki cheptaaD... akkada koTTamani.....

adhi vishayam.. thoDalu medha koTTadam ... kaadhu :D
"oo sthree repu ra..." --> Okathanu challenge chesaadu.. CM avvaka pothey assembly mokum chooDanu ani.. adhe pedda manidhi.. cheera kaTTukoni assembly ki vellaDu... appudu motham Congress vaala slogan "oo sthree repu ra.."
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 12:50 pm:       


Mvssr75:




Same to same, I read in Mahabharata.. That Bhima spared Karna and mentioned that that job was left for Arjuna
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 12:58 am:       

"Bheemascha, Balabhadrascha(Balarama), Madrarajasya(Shalya) veeryavan".... (The 4 greatest mace wielders of that time were reputed to be Bhima, Balarama, Shalya and Keechaka, with there being none to be considered close enough to be named the 5th, so that slot was left unnamed). Amongst the most important personalities that he quelled were Baka (head of a cannibalistic race), Kirmira (Baka's brother), MaNiman (leader of the anger-demons in Kubera's garden), Jarasandha, Dushasana etc. He also defeated mighty Dronacharya by breaking his chariot eight times while Arjuna was trying to find and kill Jayadratha, and initially held his own against Karna; Karna could never defeat Bhima, but Bhima left him alive as he was destined to die at the hands of Arjuna
 

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Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 12:38 am:       

Pandavas has torrid mental and physical strains for 12 years without proper food and rest. we cannot say Suyodhan had extra practise. But his mother applies special protective later all over the body except thighgs , so that he acquires the strenght of diamond.

Balaram teches special techniques to suyodhan as he is his special. Bheema is the most powerful among jarasandha, keechak, suyodhan , bhakasur

I wish to make my humble contribution in gathering and disseminating the truth about the great Lord Bhima, who re-incarnated as Sri Madhva in Kali Yuga.

The greatest compliment to Bhima comes from Duryodhana. He names Bhima, Balarama, Keechaka and Shalya as the best warriors and the strongest. He names Bhima first!

In the Mahabharata, Karna is defeated on numerous ocassions by Bhima, forcing Karna to retreat every single time!

Bhima alone kills every single Kaurava cousin!

During the war, he killed six out of eleven Akshouhinis fielded by the Kauravas

The Mahabharata describes that when the war commenced, he gave such a fierce and loud roar that horses and elephants standing there passed out.

In spite of his enormous strength and knowledge, he was the epitome of humility. In the Udyoga parva, when Lord Krishna collects the opinion of the Pandavas before approaching the Kauravas, Bhima is made to give a description of his own capabilities to everyone (by Krishna). At the end of Bhima’s narrative (which is overwhelming for any other warrior), Krishna tells him that his capability is actually 1000 times more than what he has mentioned!
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:41 pm:       

my answer was to the point that bheema was NOT shown as strong.

good or bad pakkana pedite duryodhana was as good as bheema and had the extra advantage of professional practice till the war. There ends my point
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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:28 pm:       


Senapathy:

Anyway, Troy choosa and Trojan war book sadiva.. What are the deviations in your opinion?




Everything!

chinna example...Movie lo Achilles stays alive until the very end of the war...Actual ga he dies much before that...

NTR atleast Bheeshmudu vesham vesi Bheeshmudu motham 18 days fight chesinattu choopinchaledu kada:-)...chinna chinna thedalu vuntai...to make the movie interesting...avi lite teeskovali.
Sombabu
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:26 pm:       


Cinejeevi:




Same logic would apply to Arjuna. He was the best fighter for Pandavas. He did get some extra training in Indra lokam (I suppose) but was not preparing for war 24/7 ani naa opinion.

Also Pandavas, Jungle to direct war raledu kadaa.. Bheema fought for 18 days before facing the last fight.
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:23 pm:       


Slumdawg:




Then there has to be a disclaimer. That original story has been adapted ani. Bottom line eti ante.. Wrong impressions avochu. Anyway, Troy choosa and Trojan war book sadiva.. What are the deviations in your opinion?
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:15 pm:       

senapathy
aranyavasam and aj~anatavasam time lo bheemudu did not had much practice per mahabharata. This is one reason to send them out into jungles where professional practice cannot be done. where as duryodhana all these years practiced very well and technically there is no way bheema could beat him so easily.

having said that i do condemn NTR's extra curricular activies. when he portrays keechaka then also bheema is weak :D:D:D.

rest ippudu janalu vachchi voogutaaru anukuntunna
oogutunna janalandarikee naa vandanaalu!!
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:15 pm:       

Senapathy,

Hollywood lo kooda anthe kada...Trojan war chaduv,,troy cinema choodu...enta theda vundoo telustundi...alexander...kingdom of heaven...anni original story ni marchinave..

Movies ki historical accuracy enduku? entertaining gaa vundali...anthe!
Sombabu
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:09 pm:       

Annai ee cinema enni sarlu chusano gurtu ledu
content wise biased ga vuntundi
oka villan character lo chupichinatu anipinchindi
kani NTR action, matala rachyita ayanidi sattenapalli
vella iddari moolana cinema adindi
Indiatoday top 10 movies lo 3 movies Jr.NTR ve
oka sobhan babu,kaikala,kota,jagapathi,krishna vamshi,RGV la mannana pondinaoke oka hero NTR

 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:05 pm:       


Adaviramudu:




Nenu adigindi enti.. Nee eela gola endhi
 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 09:03 pm:       

DVSK
Indiatoday top 10 movies lo 3 movies Jr.NTR ve
oka sobhan babu,kaikala,kota,jagapathi,krishna vamshi,RGV la mannana pondinaoke oka hero NTR

 

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Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 08:57 pm:       

Ninna malli choosa. As an actor, NTR has given excellent performance as Duryodhana.

Kaani they have not shown Pandavas as strong and valiant during the war episodes. Especially last fight between Duryodhana and Bheema.. Papam Satyanarayana chaala tannulu tinnadu for portraying the role of Bheema.

Duryodhana and Bheema were equal in fight and Krishna suggested Bheema to hit on the thighs (the only place where Duryodhana was weak) to end the conflict. Movie lo Bheemudu tannulu tinadam showed poor taste.

NTR role ni elevate cheyadam kosam story ni change cheyyadam avasaramaa?

Also there are some other episodes elevating Karna's role (seemed out of place). Mee opinions eeda ettandi :D

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