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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:58 pm:       


Netsaint:

Britishers vacchina 300 years lo unna Situation ni teeskuni, 1950 reservations apply chesi nattu unnaru.....




This is very very reasonable. Last 300yrs lo situation teesukoka inkem theesukuntaru? Also, reservations first 10yrs mathrame pettaru, next, 50yrs taruvatha asalu extend cheyakoodadu ani kooda pettaru. Kaani danni mana sigguleni politicians amend chesaru.

Just one question to ponder about..

Reservations encourage chese andaru politicians lo maximum are OCs. Alage mu..m reservations encourage chese andaru politicians Hindus ye. Thappu evarilo undi? Are we not the ones choosing such politicians? Inka thurakollu ani mus..ms ni, SC/ST lani thittukovadam correct aa?

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:53 pm:       


Bhikhu:

asalu desam lo top engineers/doctors/entrepreneurs lo enta mandi reserved candidates unnaru?




Dalits may still be struggling.. not BCs..

BCs were never discriminated on the basis of caste..

BCs even ruled royally for centuries..

It is the BCs who are making a killing using reservations.. they have become unstopable...
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:38 pm:       

reservations tho bc/sc/sts ki evi use undadu ocs ki pedda damage undadu..oka college lo entrance or oka govt job tappa reservations deniki use avvavu..life lo only meritocracy counts..na dost valla sis iddar medicine lo seat techukunnaru..evi labham medicine complete guda seyyaledu..asalu desam lo top engineers/doctors/entrepreneurs lo enta mandi reserved candidates unnaru?
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:35 pm:       


Jawmetri:

Brahmins will be fine, dont worry about them,




ippudu anta ledu mama.. situation chala diff ga undi..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:33 pm:       

minorities ki kakunda, majorities ki reservations lifelong icchinodi G lo thannali....edhava gola//

ichinodu manchi uddesam thote start chesadu .

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:32 pm:       


Jawmetri:

it will be hard for them to remove reservations in a democracy.




Remove democracy..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:28 pm:       


Jawmetri:

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minorities ki kakunda, majorities ki reservations lifelong icchinodi G lo thannali....edhava gola
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:26 pm:       


Nippu:




Mostly importantly, The OCs are the minority, it will be hard for them to remove reservations in a democracy.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:23 pm:       

I am damn serious. nenu bc/sc/st ammaini alludi ga/kodali ga tecchukuntanemo:d:d

freaking serious.... g lo kaaaalthondi.... :d naaaku aithe FC pasitsthiti choosi
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:20 pm:       

hope some sense prevails on supreme court judges how they asked why not reservations for muslims if they can ask why reservations for so many years and its illegal ante sari...

no political leaders will have guts to oppose reservations...
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:17 pm:       

Andariki problems telusu , solutions kuda telusu , kani

danni munduku thisukuni velle nayakudu ledu OC laki.

OC lo unity ledu first of all .


for that matter lower castes lo kuda ledu anuko but vallaki reservations vunnia.


sarigga oka national party nunchi oka leader gattigha mattade dammu vunna vadu evadiana vunnda .

evadanna noru vippithe , oppsotion party lo vunna lower castes valalthoti amber fitting .
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:17 pm:       

Hmmm..This would lead to a revolt. Upper caste vaalu Lower caste vallani

balavanthamga pelli chesesukovali... to get rid off FC status.. next generation kayina RESERVATION vasthundi...

hm...I am able to foresee that... in near future....
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:16 pm:       


Iamim:

Reddy.. Kamma.. Raju.. Kapu.. vaisya have their own network.. money.. they dont care.. that leaves Brahmans alone.. neither political power.. nor economic power.. nor vote bank power.. I can forsee a day when majority Brahmans will be doing pachi pani to eke out a living...




In the post-liberalization era, brahmins have really thrived. Brahmins will be fine, dont worry about them, their inherent sharpness and intelligence will take care of them.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:13 pm:       


Iamim:

Reddy.. Kamma.. Raju.. Kapu.. vaisya have their own network.. money.. they dont care.. that leaves Brahmans alone.. neither political power.. nor economic power.. nor vote bank power.. I can forsee a day when majority Brahmans will be doing pachi pani to eke out a living...




just brahmins ni enduku single out chesthunnaru, uttarandhra lo fwd castes anni adukuthintunnaru
thalachukutnene kadupu ragilipothundi pattinchukune naadhude ledu
it's like they dont have a chance in life, daily labor chesukuni thinadaaniki saripovadam ledu inka valla kids ki chance ekkada undi chadvukuni paiki raavataaniki
fwd castes anni unite ayyi fight chesthe thappa dikku ledu adi etu jarige pani kaadu unna egoes ki kottuku saavadam thappa

manaki cehthanaithe kontha mandi ni aina lift cheyatame or moosukuni kurchovatame, ila aina caste feeling tho aina valla valla castes lo kontha mandini lift chesina it's a very good thing to do
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 11:57 am:       


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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 11:51 am:       


Pathfinder:

chiru's Best Punches
A - Baava entha nokkestunnado!!
B - Baava Rest Room ki daaretu?
C - Akkada rendu unnayi baaa deniki ellamantaav?
D - Baava, nee gorintaaku pandinda assala?
E - All of the above, My Vote goes to E




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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 11:45 am:       

Ambedkar has clearly mentioned that the reservations are to be there only for 10 years, until 1957 but our politicians with an eye on their mileage, had continuoulsy abused this policy initiated by Ambedkar & still no one has the law bolls to rectify it which concludes the pathetic state of political turmoil Indian democracy is facing ever since.
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B - Baava Rest Room ki daaretu?
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 11:27 am:       

Higher education ni 70% privatise cheyyali. Right now Govt controls 4-5 universities per state and that is leading to disparities in oppurtunities and devaluation of education. Privatising universities will help in creating oppurtunity to deserved and it will lead to higher standards in teaching and student body.

State universities lo reservations ki criteria lo economic BG,Region and Merit add cheyyali along with caste. This type of system will include needy OBC students who may not able to compete with other OBC students in terms of IQ,Financial BG and proximity.

Providing jobs is Govt primary responsibility and I am all for reservations in jobs but Govt should reserve jobs which are at LDC and UDC level only. Promotions should be offered to employees in those levels based on evidence that they have demonstrated ability in their current roles. Mana deggara corruption ekkuva kabatti.. govt should outsource appraisal system to third parties or edanna exam lantidi conduct cheyali promotions ki.

Govt should abolish reservations in JEE,IAS/IFS/IPS,UPPSC and Elections. The purpose of competitive exams is to filter candidates based on merit and if we allow reservations in these then we are undermining the very purpose of them.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 11:22 am:       


Netsaint:

I think Poor families of Reddy/Kapu/Brahmin/Kamma/Raju should get reservations really some of the people are ghoramga undhi situation.

pattinchukune naadhudhe ledu. OC ani tick chesi vadilesaru...


No WOnder Future lo OC group to Naxalit/Tellals migration untadi emo




Reddy.. Kamma.. Raju.. Kapu.. vaisya have their own network.. money.. they dont care.. that leaves Brahmans alone.. neither political power.. nor economic power.. nor vote bank power.. I can forsee a day when majority Brahmans will be doing pachi pani to eke out a living...
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:50 am:       


Bitter:


so, Income Equal ga 16 shares avvatam varaku baagane undedhi.

eppudayithe Income BAITIKI povatam modalu ayyindho (mughals,brithers,other invaders) ...eee godavalu, tara tamyalu start ayinattu unnai...

endukante BAITODU 8 parts denkesi, rest 8 ni 16 panchumante, melliga Okari pai okaru ajamayishi ki vacchi natttunnaru
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:40 am:       

Brother Net,

>>naaku telisi anni vrutthulaki Bagane Value undedi society lo.
differences eppati ninchi vacchai.??? koddhiga ligt vesthaava??<<

Naaku kooda exact ga teliyadu antaraanthanam anedi eppudu modalu ayyindi anedi... moghals raakmundu miraasi padhdhathi amalulo vundi ani ekkado choosanu. village lo saagulo vunna land antha devalayam kinda vundedi.. saagu ayina panta ni appatlo vunna vividha rakala vrthuthulu ga vunna 16 kulala vaaru panchukune vallu anta.. meeru annatlu anni vruththulaki equal importance vundedi. eppudu ayithe land ownership raavatam modalu ayyindo hechhu taggulu modalu ayyai anukunta ee 16 castes lo..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:27 am:       


Bitter:


Bitter mama, naaku telisi anni vrutthulaki Bagane Value undedi society lo.

differences eppati ninchi vacchai.??? koddhiga ligt vesthaava??
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:26 am:       

personal ga reservation valana naaku gaani, naa relatives ki kaani elaanti sambhandam ledu.

kaani reservations ni nenu support chesthanu with few changes. wealth, resources, administration lloki andariki avaksama kalpinche reservations implimenataion lo konni lopaalu vunnai. over all gaa reservations vundaali.. correct ga chesthe 50 yrs chaalu.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:26 am:       


Ravino786:

reserved candidate esp sc/st lo malli Ambedker lanti telivina person puttadu...puttina after degree he will get job akaditho his life will be end...




May be not annai.. even if he is given a job, he is still at his will to do what ever he want and for that you cant blame the reservation system... ani naa opinion
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:23 am:       

What are we expecting to achieve by changing the reservation in education system. No matter what rules politicians impose, no big improvement is seen unless the people themselves change. Here change is a big thing and has to done in a big way to even see a small change...
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:22 am:       

Brother NetSaint,

>>Britishers vacchina 300 years lo unna Situation ni teeskuni, 1950 reservations apply chesi nattu unnaru.....<<

British time lone reservations vunnai.. comunal representaion ani vundedi. Govt administration lo create ayina jobs anni education access vundi, quick english nerchukunna ayyavaarla ke vasthunnai ani.. appatiki kallu terichina raithu kulala nunchi south india lo vudyamalu chesaaru.. every 13 jobs lo raithu kulalaaki 4, chethi vruthuthulu, agricultural labour, triabls castes ki 4 jobs communcal representation kinda british govt 1910 nunchi reservations impliment chesindi.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:18 am:       


Netsaint:

I think Poor families of Reddy/Kapu/Brahmin/Kamma/Raju should get reservations really some of the people are ghoramga undhi situation.




idi correct.. chala ghoranga undi vella paristiti..vellaki govt edo okkati cheyali..
i know some families inka vizag lo electricity lekundaa max 1k income tho
chavaleka bhrathukutunnaru..bycle and without slipper idi valla paristiti..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:17 am:       

reservation is suppression ....

reserved candidate esp sc/st lo malli Ambedker lanti telivina person puttadu...puttina after degree he will get job akaditho his life will be end...


Rajashekaruni jeevitam rastraniki ankitam.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:16 am:       

Actual ga INDIAN Scenario lo all castes got equal importance and thier importance in soceity.

Britishers vacchina tarvatha, they created more rift by depending on

Brahmins etc for jobs, Kamma/Reddy/Kapu for Agriculture/Taxes/Land taxes etc...

veelu raaka poyyi unte, there could have been less friction between upper and lower anukuntunna.

Britishers vacchina 300 years lo unna Situation ni teeskuni, 1950 reservations apply chesi nattu unnaru.....
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:12 am:       

filmfan,

I didn't say remove them tomorrow.

I said remove ALL reservations 10 years from now.

The moment you say reservation for financially backwards people start looking for a loophole that says they are *poor*.

The vicious cycle will never end.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:08 am:       

If you want to avoid abuses, just remove all reservations.
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just remove is not going to happen.....forget it....

Phasing out is the only solution, but then who out there would agree that they have been uplifted?

pratical solutions isthey better......

taking Reservations in one instance is not going to happen no matter how many times we say it.

so start changing it by introducing Economic status and then phase that out....

i dont see that happening......atleast in near future...
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:06 am:       

I think Poor families of Reddy/Kapu/Brahmin/Kamma/Raju should get reservations really some of the people are ghoramga undhi situation.

pattinchukune naadhudhe ledu. OC ani tick chesi vadilesaru...


No WOnder Future lo OC group to Naxalit/Tellals migration untadi emo
"chinmaya chidaaanda chidvilasa brundaavana sundara sukumaara saundharya gaandharva lalaaama
Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:03 am:       

reservations for economically backward Indians .. all set
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this is one major BS category.

I know people who are very rich and would get a certificate that says their father is a farmer to get into Agricultural university.

If you want to avoid abuses, just remove all reservations.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:02 am:       

Congree already screwed our country royally.... no way that other parties would dare to touch the reservations....if they did, Congree would make a big fuss about it in the public and as our public is PURE METTA batch...they would vote against other parties...some one suggested in this DB long ago about this issue... as it would be next to immposible to remove reservations, why not give reservations to OCs as well! I liked that point!
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:01 am:       


Mikkymouse:

entha vedava pani aina chese mana politicians




Mikky, We Select and Elect leaders. atuvantidi mana pai ekki swaaaaary cheyyadam emiti...
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Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:01 am:       

Bhavuha ee vishayam lo political parties ki adhikaaram lekunda supreme court theerpu chebithe all set anukunta.
Ede kakunda vatini neravelacha galamo teleekunda mana sommemi poyindhi gov somme ani chese vaganalaku kooda supreme court addukatta veyyali.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:01 am:       

Make Primary education mandatory
Spend really really large amounts of money to build elementary and high schools

If there is any unfair advantage for rich kids, that has to be normalized at early age. before 15-17

higher educations lo, jobs lo reservations ivvadam EP thanam
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:59 am:       

Rule #1 Vow to End this Reservation by Deadline < 5 Yrs
Rule #2 If some one got it his son/daughter should not get it
Rule #3 Dont Extend Deadline
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completely agree with these.

I would change it to 10 years b'coz 5 is too short a duration to see a tanginble change in inequalities.

Rule # 4 Abolish all reservations - gender/caste/religion based.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:59 am:       


Bunty717:

reservations for economically backward Indians .. all set

or

reservervatons to get admission for college or job ..
once used that individual and his family is out of reservations list..

inka vella kids ki no reservation..

ila cheste may be unko 15-20 yrs ki minimise cheyochu..

ee thokkalo woments quota,nri quota,NCC quota,ex service man quota anni stop cheyali..





Naadhi same opinion. Anni party lu ee reservations ni object cheste votes pakka party vadiki padatayi anna bhayam undadhu. Kaanee thamu padavi loki ravadaniki entha vedava pani aina chese mana politicians ee pani cheyyaru okavela chesina evado okadu ee reservations maa first ajenda ani kotha party pedathadu.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:55 am:       

Congress might now be thinking about Reservations for LEFT HANDERS ...aallu kuda minorities ye kada
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:53 am:       

Rule #1 Vow to End this Reservation by Deadline < 5 Yrs
Rule #2 If some one got it his son/daughter should not get it
Rule #3 Dont Extend Deadline

One Day Congress will put 99% Reservations :D
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:52 am:       


Bunty717:

reservations for economically backward Indians .. all set




if he gets into IAS or CA jobs, next time Economic reservations teeseyocchu as automatically they income will increase and reservations will stop.

its not a bad idea
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Thana yavvana poooritha prapoooritha prajwalitha netra thanaku thanai digivacchina vanithaa mani thana vihaara vinoda vinooothna spoorthi andhamai gandhamai anubandhamaiiiii.....
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:48 am:       

reservations for economically backward Indians .. all set

or

reservervatons to get admission for college or job ..
once used that individual and his family is out of reservations list..

inka vella kids ki no reservation..

ila cheste may be unko 15-20 yrs ki minimise cheyochu..

ee thokkalo woments quota,nri quota,NCC quota,ex service man quota anni stop cheyali..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:43 am:       

Reservation is becoming a necessary evil for the indian people.

Granting reservations is not a charity business since its involves lot of tax payers money going to fund the receipients.

We had seen enough fiasco of the reservations , its defn going to become a monster and unless its tamed its going to spread cross-fire spitting down the line between reservations and nonreservations category. just like uppercaste/lower caste disputes.

Having said that, there should be some rationale and amicable solution to this menace.

How Many of You feel reservations are genuine necessary?

How many of you really have got benifitted out of this Reservation?

Did it uplift thier families and economics upto any extent?

How Long /Generations should be given though???

My Solution: GOvt should take a affirmitive stand and start implementing it to ROTATION Basis like If 2 Generations has taken this Benifit then that Family Should be stopped to that Family. Or If a person has taken this benifit for Study,Govt Job etc then his next family should not get in Reservation.
Something of this sort..

This way Every People in this country would get an benifit if not today but after sometime atleast.

Mee opinions genuine ga cheppandi...fighting vaddhu,ninna 300 thread bloodbath ayyyindhi bjp/congy/tdp ani.. pls tell your opinions/ideas with cool head
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