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Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1886 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
strictly speaking anly three...advaita, visishta-advaita, dwaita | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 277 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.168.35 Rating: N/A |
that must be the reason there are so many religions  . | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1885 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
all religious models try to address that question | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 276 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.168.35 Rating: N/A |
There is no why,there is only how. I do not think any model can address 'why'. the question itself may be irrelevant.
Ok. may be it need not have the burden of internal consistency. no issues with religion as long as it helps it's believers/practitioners. As Anand said this is all the same discussion in different words. | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1884 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
they are rational to their practitioners.....things fell on earth even before newton...can we say people before newton are irrational..but after Newton we see gravitational force acting on them...Einestien explained it in a different way...nature doesn't change we perceive it differently based on what models we have in our mind...i can have a model in my mind that things fall because they don't like empty space between them.....i can either accept it as natural behaviour or else i can try to create a model to quantify that behaviour.......now the people who have motivation to create such models are considered as all knowing and superior....but no fundamental answers to why nature behaves like that...which means physics deals only with patterns of nature and on ways to quantify them....they don't deal with what is nature but physisists try to give an impression that they understand nature....religion starts from where physics ends the models of religion are more advanced and superior | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1883 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
i have no issue with scientists if they follow their methodology minus their all knowing attitude....except some monotheistic faiths world religions changed with time.... | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1882 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Life definitely has a spiritual goal and if we feel that we have to work on that we are free to do so, but when we will get there is not in our hands....... | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1881 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu...antha bagavntudiki vadilesi koorchovali anukunna ...aa pani andari valla ayedhi kadhu....manamu chese panulu chestune vuntaamu....mana mind convince aina kooda mana nature maratamu antha easy kadhu...at some point we can realise the split between our mind and our nature...we can't change things related to our nature drastically...this is my experience....may be it could be different for others | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 274 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.168.37 Rating: N/A |
It does not matter which model we use as long as the model we use (whether mathematical or philosophical or spiritual or religious or whatever) is accurate enough to predict events that we can observe. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 273 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.168.35 Rating: N/A |
has there been any spiritual pursuer who confided that there is nothing to it or attain, barring UG may be . most of them seem to have fat ego. The problem is more of with Ego rather than the belief system( religious or scientific).cultism need not be of religious can be of any belief system. The true( if there is something as such ) believer or practitioner of science should allow for change or revisiting/re-validation. The scientific methodology allows for corrections and it does not claim or advocate absolute truth. it is inherent and integral part of the methodology. Not sure if religion also does this! Upon dead-end where things are left for speculations or interpretations in principle at least the speculations based on scientific methodology would be a little rational or the abstractions are at proper levels, no abstraction level crossing confusions. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5074 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: |
not again this BS... | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6951 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: |
At that point, what is the purpose of life then ? Just existence ? Any kind of action is driven by the desire to change something, the state of things. If you come to the conclusion that you cannot change anything - why would you act ? Personal example, nenu dhyanam lo kurchunte time flies by without my realising it and I can sit in that place for long periods - but I have to get up and cook and feed my family..Anta bhagvatechha ani nenu selfish ga na spiritual pursuit lo kurchunte, I do not believe that is right either. We have been given an evolved brain to think, question, prioritise and improve our state. The day we stop doing those there is no difference between humans and animals Enlightened masters did not come to teach in the world because they believed they were trapped.. they did it because they believed they could make a difference in the world And all of them tell you to strive your best, reach as high as you can - no one tells you to stop trying to change things...and that applies to science as well Science has explained a lot of phenomena - monna edo maa abbayi to ancient people believed this ani chepte - he said "they also believed there was an angry God in the sky droppping thunderbolts when they got mad at humans..If no one questioned that we would not have lighting protectors today" The ancients observed phenomena and theorised based on their understanding at the time.Science helped improve that understanding to explain the phenomenon in physics terms. More importantly - if all is predestined and designed by the creator, the ascendancy of rationalism and science along with materialism and the shift of balance between religions in the world also has to be God's design Should that be questioned ? Do we really know enough to say the world is going the right way or wrong - basically criticise God's plan ? Is that not playing God too ? 
I don't believe I said anywhere that they are superior or inferior... however just as you have the liberty to laugh at their ideas they have the liberty to laugh at others If people spent as much energy understanding, as they did claiming superiority, the world would be a better place I think Anyway, ee topics DB lo idivaraku kuda discuss chesamu...same discussion different ids You all have funaa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1880 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.55 Rating: |
O.k if that is true...in what way physics or physicistcan claim superior.....i am just contending their superiority
with maturity and progress in spiritual life you question less...eventually you will reach to the conclusion that you are trapped and there is no way out.......but a physicist will say given enough time we will find out everything just like politician's false election promises...it's difficult for them to accept that all their measurements are relative and there is no way out
i am not frustraded....i just laugh at these models....currently i don't take imaginary theories of physics seriously ....when i was fascinated by it i did try to correlate physics with scripture but no more.. one fine day i realised their approach is just model building based on some ideas and speculation.......the foundations of scriptures are more solid than that of physics...even much maligned bible in western world makes more sense to me because atleast it's model involves consciousness..... | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6950 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 67.10.134.234 Rating: N/A |
Doing great and hope the same with you Have not been able to get hold of GEB yet  Have to try again at the library.
Ee lines lo replace the word Physics with God and read them They would still be applicable to the world and especially this DB. Evari position vallu protect chesukuntunnaru
What do you think you will find out when you reach spiritual realzation - sarvam maya, jagat mithya, nirakara nirguna brahman ani antaru- adi fulfilling ga untundi ani meeku anipinchinattu , aa relative models may be fulfilling to people who tread a different path The point I am trying to make is - if your concept of God stops you from questioning and lets you live in peace - good for you.But from your posts it does not seem that you are satisfied with just leaving at that or you would not be trying to correlate physics and scripture Ofcourse it may be that you are trying to strengthen your position that scripture already had it before physics came up with itUnderstand your own motives and you will understand the cause of your frustration Every brain is wired differently and everyone has different driving forces. All we need to understand is why we believe what we do..and we have to do that in absolute value of self.. not relative to another's beliefs aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1878 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.58 Rating: N/A |
with velocity inertial mass changes kadha | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 270 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.8.1 Rating: N/A |
anand garu, ela unnaru. Douglas Hofstadter's GEB try chesara? | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1876 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.56 Rating: N/A |
 well said brother | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1875 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.55 Rating: N/A |
welcome back anand gaaru.....torture anedhi resistance to change anukunna....aa torture nunchi something positive and fulfilling emerge kaavali kadha...antha time spend chesi burra baddalu kotukuni....final ga nuvvu just konni models to deal chestunnavu ane realisation ki vaste etla vuntundhi....with physics and maths at the end of the day you will have more questions than answers | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1874 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.55 Rating: N/A |
emi ledhu brother.....maths, scienece ani choopinchi prasantham ga vunna janalaki enduku brain washing chestunnaru ani....mee question lone answer vundhi....physics ni question cheyyali antene janalaki bayam...physics ni question cheyyali ante andulo experts ayyi vundaali emo ane stage ki teesukoni vellaru....asalu daani philosophy and approach meedha idea vunte chaalu evaraina comments cheyyavachu...even art guys.... | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1873 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.55 Rating: N/A |
ivi simple day to day experiences quantify chestunnapude objective ga vuntaayi beyond that math is nothing but subjective symbolism...i would say beyond a particular level math is nothing but a structure to fit ideas which are highly subjective | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 2867 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu welcome back. Enduko ee part quote cheyali anipinchindi  leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5011 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.14.147.0 Rating: |
I think most of the issues arise cuz there is now a sprawling campaign of anthropomorphism...a belief that humans have special mind that is better evolved than other species and that mind can extract better answers than any other beings... If you look at the history of science, most of its accomplishments are mere verification of existential facts than any generative structures that led to explanation of further truths. Most men of science see this argument as belittling their positions and often put forth a stance of progression ....that needs time...the sad truth is that science hasn't done anything more than religion has accomplished...(keeping aside the BS of all humans loving and caring for each other is the ultimate reality) Science for many is an escape from the burden of reality...an imaginative gateway to a thought that humans are special and need not be created...and their retreat is in the search for playing GOD...i.e to create a reality that has thus far been unfathomed by the human eye and which is only privy to the edifice of rationality... For some science is like an art...that which is a byproduct of my whimsical leanings... | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 5010 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.14.147.0 Rating: N/A |
cuz the edifice is the only rational depiction of perceived reality as it is validated by empericism....the epistemological value of science originates from its professed freedom from conjecture and an ad hoc belief system and its unbrazen candidness in the face of failure... Having said that science borrows heavily from the axiomatizing nature of all mathematics....as we spoke previously, mathematics doesnt even define or set itself up as any reasonable definition of reality. Mathematics in its true sense and as was practiced elegantly by its proponents is just a structure that doesn't require any qualifier of reality. Science is no different from religion in a holistic sense wherein one tends to ask "Can you prove its verity absolutely".... As feynman puts it: " It might indeed be true that our very existence is just a random happenstance that will forever befuddle our limited imagination..." In the scope of the perceived reality that is defined by each being, some chose to believe with out questioning and some ascribe added bit of intelligence to their being and say I tend to ask questions and seek their answers..... I can speak for myself...I do science cuz I luv the process of being defeated by nature time and again...belittled by its humungous enormity and then the genesis of a chance to lock my horns again by virtue of some flashes of my little imaginative brain... Science should be done for the mere fun of problem solving and not for any ego trips of a human being...None whomsoever had succeeded doing so... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2969 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
 the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Pavala Side Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 9854 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 85.83.28.9 Rating: N/A |
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Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2966 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
nuvu andhari hate chesthey lenidhi, ayana science chesthe vachindhaa...  the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Pavala Side Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 9852 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 85.83.28.9 Rating: N/A |
vjvasi tamud ee baadha enti ee metta burra ki ardham kaaledhu rendu mukkallo seppavaa plz..physics ney na..leka applied physics kurrol ayina wakey na..? Morphed pics blogs lo ette %%¤/&/( gaallaki setting untaadhi def ga....Ee roju kakapothey repu...repu kaakapothe ellundi...matter of time: oka spellings correct sesey donation doctur | ||
Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 638 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 188.40.51.71 Rating: N/A |
??????????? idi eppaTinuchi? కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6949 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: N/A |
LOL nenu emi DBers meeda aligi, malli DB moham chudanu ani sapatham chesi maneyyaledu kada The reason for quitting is the one described in the previous post- my ideas and questions pain a lot of people here ... ROM lo unte best of both worlds - I glean what I want and people are saved the agony of reading my posts Elca, Thanks for the security service offer Kamal, Post chadivara - smileys matrame lekkapettara MS, You guys keep discussing so I can keep reading in ROM Always a pleasure to read your posts aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Elcaminocapastrino Hero Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 19638 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 12.235.35.2 Rating: N/A |
Anang garu...how r u...ee quittin etandi??? u will be given special privileges...evadanna gottley gadu emanna vagakunda meeku secret service untadhi 24x7...ur safe from now on... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2957 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
antha midhya anee kunda badhalu kotniki try sethana.. kaani kunda vagalatle... the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 10939 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
opinions are a$$holes .. everybody needs to have one .. type lo .. edanna kunda baddalu kottale .. righto wrongo .. madhyastam ga antha midhya ante .. adi nijam aina ... inconclusive ga unte .. ekkadu janalaki including me ..  Aamani paadave haayi gaa .. moogavai poku ee velaa .. raaleti poola raagalatho .. pooseti poola gandhalatho .. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2954 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
glad you are checking the posts. appudu appudu ila oka post vesi velthundandi.. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2636 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
past ki velthe chachina vaalllu bathakadam annattu kaadu kada...einstein never developed these theories for time travel purposes...kaani evari research interest batti vaallu malchukuntaru...personally i can clearly see a distinction between science and faith. I am scientist, but also a believer. I never had any conflicts...it all depends on what you believe in. Some religious concepts utterly negate science, but some support scientific method. Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 10937 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
Anand garu, how r u? long time .. !!! would be good if you come back .. btw .. 15 smileys vaadaru .. inni rojula korata okka post tho teerchesukunnara? j/k Aamani paadave haayi gaa .. moogavai poku ee velaa .. raaleti poola raagalatho .. pooseti poola gandhalatho .. | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2635 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
...meeru DB vadilesthaa ante asalu site open bhi cheyyaranukunna...Ilaa ROM lo undekante postadam better emo...btw 17 lines lo 15 smileys vesaaru...mee patience ki naa salaam...mee fan evaro baagaa miss avuthunnadu...already single padindi...aayana korakanna raavaali meeru... Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2951 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
 ante mari adhi, ee topic lo post esina, andhariki anti ga esthunna feeling vasthundhi... andhuke ala anipinchindhi...
math and physics background ante, ee rakam oo naku ardham kaledhu bro, Phd chesthu madhyala aapesa, was in core computer sciences, kaani math courses chesaanu, physics ante, naa project mates idharu physics lo phd chese vaallu, oka 2 yrs ilaanti discussions enno jarigaayi, aa time lo edho course work ki prepare avuthunattu, chadive vallamu ee concepts... sariga ardham kaka poyina
science is against God, anedhi chala mandhiki unde feeling. Math and Science are mostly observational, especially Math, it does not invent anything, it merely creates equations to the patterns in nature, its more like quantifying nature in the form of an equations. so dont worry Devudu unte, Math compulsory ga prove chesthundhi beyond any doubt.(but eppudo thelidhu) the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 6948 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.24.150 Rating: |
Ishan/MS, Great posts in Time travel and this one Good to see Nisarga back Vjavasi, Mee initial post chusi post chestunna...don't know if I am communicating my thoughts well enough Torture/ Pain is a symptom of resistance... Mental cognition is limited by the rigidity of your core beliefs and positions i.e. your absorption of new ideas/concepts will be limited by the constraints your beliefs put on you.The more fixed your beliefs, the greater the pain you feel when an idea challenges them...Your belief systems are a significant part of your ego, your sense of self, and any idea that is contrary to these rocks the foundations of your sense of self...Reflexively you will flinch away from any idea that poses a threat to the same Think why are you letting other people's noise bother you... unless you want validation of your own beliefs by other people or want to prove your belief system superior to others Learn to distinguish between people who are "asking a question/presenting an idea in the explorer mode " from people who are "protecting their position " And watch out against falling into the trap of "protecting your position" yourself Simplest and most foolproof way to identify the position protectors: , they will diminish the person presenting that idea as inferior Only when you move from the "position protector " mode to the "explorer" mode and reach a state of "no fixed position "...that all ideas have potential merit, you will be able to evaluate them without feeling tortured After that point, all questioning,and finding answers is nothing more than solving a puzzle - a never-ending one maybe Like I have said many times before ...to me its like a treasure hunt...you skip along merrily looking for clues, and build your picture, which may be turned upside down by the next clue you find but that is part of the fun and keeps it interesting Keep moving and evolving And no, I have no plans to come back to the DB Mee torture chusi palliative cheppali anipinchi post chesanu Exploring should be fun, not frustrating aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 10933 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
enti ishan garu .. nenu ani hint istunnara?  Aamani paadave haayi gaa .. moogavai poku ee velaa .. raaleti poola raagalatho .. pooseti poola gandhalatho .. | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2633 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
Vjavasi brother kooda kaadu, coke itlaanti vishayalu pattinchukodu...humty dumpty asale interest choopinchadu...ika migilina vaari vishayalu naaku teliyadu... Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1872 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.53 Rating: N/A |
atla jaragatamu ante chachina vallu andaru malli batakali brother...asalu einestein models lo aa hints emi levu...though some physicists say there is no difference between past and future ...they also say disorder of universe is continuously increasing......... | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2632 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
relativity theories complete ga artham ayina vaallu chala thakkuva brother. But chala mandi interpret chestharu vaalla ability ki thaggattu. Ika hype ante, edanna kotta discovery vasthe future lo inkaa evevo sadisthaam anukodam human mind ki alavaatu. But prathi discovery tharuvatha god ledu ani choopinchaalanukodam immaturity ani naa opinion. he he nenayithe cheyyaledu... Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 10929 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
antha midhya ane tyfe siggy ettukuni .. manchi science fosts ethu .. mammalni target jeshi .. ulta banayistunnava? Aamani paadave haayi gaa .. moogavai poku ee velaa .. raaleti poola raagalatho .. pooseti poola gandhalatho .. | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1871 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.53 Rating: N/A |
nenu mee fan ni brother....meeku math & physics background vundha | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2949 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
andhar kalis nannu endhuku target setthunnaar... the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1870 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.53 Rating: N/A |
actual ga meeru aa topic initiate cheyyatamu valana mee and M_S posts valana naaku relativity meedha interest and clarity baga perigindhi...but special relativity ardham aina taruvatha vaarni ee theory kaa intha hype anipinchindhi.... | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2631 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
Bhrama ani endukanukovali? it might be possible one day. Einstein theories might be just the beginning for unfolding of that mystery. Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1869 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.53 Rating: N/A |
mee medha kaadani...einestien meedha ...aa theory ni use chesi time travel ani bhramalu kaliginche scifi candidates meedha  | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2630 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
kompa teesi mee kopam naa meeda kaadu kada aa time travel thread start chesinanduku? Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 10924 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: N/A |
well said .. if people are trying to tilt the balance in one side .. there will be resistance from the other ... Newtons 3rd law ..  Aamani paadave haayi gaa .. moogavai poku ee velaa .. raaleti poola raagalatho .. pooseti poola gandhalatho .. | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1867 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.53 Rating: N/A |
I like this sentence....but if people make loud noises and claims about their new found knowledge supported by establishment...it's difficult for normal beings to have an independent stand | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1866 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.53 Rating: N/A |
ee questioning ki antu ledhu brother....and there is no use other than questioner loosing peace of mind....i feel and believe too much emphasis on maths make people cynical and restless....it's a kind of torture especially for most indians who don't learn these in a natural way... | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1865 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.53 Rating: N/A |
aavesham emi ledu annai...3-4 days nunchi physics topics discuss chestunnamu kadha...naa conclusion ga ee thread initiate chesa | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2624 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: |
Totally agree. If we are really confident on what we believe in and if we think we can answer the questions posed, we need not resort to illogical arguments to counter the attacks on our beliefs. If we can not answer the questions, we must be flexible enough to accept new theories. That is the central point we need to learn from the evolution of hinduism. Every great philosopher questioned his predecessor or/and peer. Ramanuja, madhvacharya, sankara, buddha, mahavira etc. Otherwise where is evolution? If our sages thought Oh ok sacrificing a horse to appease gods is the ultimate truth, just imagine if hinduism would have ever survived the dawn. Same rule applies to science. If Einstein did not have the freedom to question Newton, physics would be still groping in the penumbra of classical theories. Evolution is the central theme of nature. Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2932 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
kamalai, ee topics meedha discussion ante naaku chala ishtam, but ee madhya chala strenuous ga undhi work, so hopefully we can exchange more on this. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2931 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
kamalai, my signature should give a gist about how i feel. our knowledge about this universe and life is no where near the actual truth ani anukunta. that makes me not take a stand on something unless, i am convinced in every which way. it is not about me being fair. chinappudu oka poetry competition lo compete chesanu, some of us in the competition had a chance to meet C Na Re, that day he went through whatever we have written, and he shared some of his with us, and among those one said, "Kalam rayatledhu ani kaagithanni nindhinchaku", it had an impression on me for a long time. i feel manalo unna faults ki manam, vere vatini blame chesthamu ani. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 10909 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: |
cool .. then you are fair nenu .. you are trying to sell your point as in .. you are trying to convince vjavasi not to attack science, rationalism ane uddesam tho vesanu .. not that you are manufacturing opinions ..
while I agree with you that .. past has the advantage of looking attractive, positive and good .. it is not to the extent that we are "assuming" things about past because .. what happened in the past has reached us only because the truth part of it survived .. and not the false part ( refering to your quote of "Truth alone triumphs", in which I completely believe in ) .. same happens with the "present" .. if in the present age .. bad wins over good momentarily .. this present will be "dark age" for the future gens who look at todays present as past ! On a side note, what is past, present and future all are measurements of "time" and hence is relative .. and hence is prone to error and judgement .. Aamani paadave haayi gaa .. moogavai poku ee velaa .. raaleti poola raagalatho .. pooseti poola gandhalatho .. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2927 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: N/A |
kamal bro, I dont know if you have observed, but i have never taken side in case of god and science, to me both are at a stage where we are still learning. So nenu Science ni question chesthanu, God ni question chesthanu, but never take stance against either of them. I feel there is a difference between questioning to understand, and deriding some concept. Infact, I study more concepts on God than science, to understand it more. Nuvu cheppu "God" ante ento? I can give you many different views on what "God" is, and each have its unique evolution for the philosophy. "God" ni support chese vallu kooda ee anni concepts ki agree cheyaru, mari what about them?
intent of my post to vjavasi, was not because he was attacking science. I would have posted the same when someone posts against God. I did it many times in this DB earlier, and will always do. I believe my post is intended to all who take stands, and attack other concepts. if a scientist attacks the concepts based on god, my response would be the same. Coming to vedas, I believe that some of the things said in vedas, are undeniably true, and what is wrong in me quoting something from vedas? I do not understand?
please clarify what am i selling? I do not think i am selling anything, i would like to know what i am trying to sell here. I merely commented on the human ability to be judgemental. if it is wrong i will gladly like to understand your take on it.
kamal bro, motham post chadivaaka ee sentence chadivanu, my previous post is from me only, and it cannot be attributed to anyone, as i do not know if anyone agrees with me.
that is an interesting take from you, but have we really experienced how life was in the past? i believe we can only assume that past was better based on what we study, i believe good and bad co-existed as long as we can go back, only what is good, and what is bad has changed as time changed. emotionally, human reaction would be the same for any bad, whether is today or in the past. may be i did not understand your take well enough to comment on, and i am thinking on a completely different plane. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 18416 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
I am a physic what do you want? j/k | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 10906 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.142 Rating: |
too skeptical .. too imaginative as well .. in my view !
If you do not want to take stances as you have derided taking stances earlier .. I would have seen the same post when we had the threads science as the ultimate savior and God as useless ! I guess .. I did not ! How come .. all of a sudden Vedas became the most superior source of authority? though I am happy .. why did you have to quote Vedas? just to sell your point of not attacking the science and not be cynical about it? PS - Here "you" per se does not refer you .. so I am not casting any asperations on your stand ! just to clarify .. my point is .. is the world a better place to live after science made it increasingly "rational" ??? my answer would be NO .. Aamani paadave haayi gaa .. moogavai poku ee velaa .. raaleti poola raagalatho .. pooseti poola gandhalatho .. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 2925 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 63.161.147.10 Rating: |
vjavasi bro, an inquisitive and questioning mind always treats every type of phenomenon with a doubt and zeal to understand it. God whether real or imaginative was also born out of this aspect of human ability. God ayina, science ayina, art ayina everything had its own place, all these have grown from basic concepts to complex theories. If you really look at it is a natural progression. Dont tell me that adherents of the theories based on unquestionable concepts and theories of God did not look at science as something crude and manipulative. no group is a saint here, as fundamentally we humans are flawed. humans can use any object, however holier or scientific for destruction, and for this we dont have to blame either god or science. Its we who are to be questioned, why doe we have to take a stance, when we do not have a proof either way. I find it as a fault in both the sections. we humans take a stand based on our experiences, or based on what makes us feel good, so it is understandable that we take different stands on each issue, but why the mania of attacking other concepts? In the end, as our vedas say "Truth Alone Truimphs", I do not feel there is a need to protect any concept, if it is the truth, it will eventually be accepted. Do not worry too much about what others say or feel, and try to pursue whatever way you feel is correct. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Humpty_dumpty Side Hero Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 6081 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 38.117.247.14 Rating: N/A |
//there is no difference between those who propagate you and fake God men// {bemmi juttu pekkunay icon} | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2623 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.244.232 Rating: N/A |
Annai, enduku ee aavesham , em jarigindi?Gaanamidi...nee dhyanamidi...dhyanamulo naa praanamidi...praanamaina mooga gunde raagamidi... | ||
Vjavasi Comedian Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 1864 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Your measurement of length is relative...mass is relative....time is relative...temperature is statistical...Force is relative...for some energy is also relative then why do you claim that your are superior and king of sciences..why you and your followers look down on other areas of knowledge especially language, poetry,arts, social sciences...why your followers make so much noise about you.....beacuse of you, your alter ego maths which was once beautiful with its simplicity has long lost touch with objective reality...you together with your alter ego maths have tormented soft growing brain tissues...with false faith in you many have become rootless and cynical....you prey on your followers...attracted by your false charm some of your direct and indirect followers became your unconditional slaves....there is no difference between those who propagate you and fake God men... you create some stupid theories and the followers of your alter ego maths add glamour to them....How are your theories different from other speculative socio-economic-spiritual theories ..why do you claim that you understand reality or close to reality?....you are claiming time is relative...if there is any parameter that is fundamental to this universe...it is time.... neither you can control it nor you can change it...it's beyond your scope...all your other measurements are your own definitions...time is property of existence...even born blind are aware of time only in sleep we loose sense of time becuase we go out of this physical reality and exist between the boundaries of many other physical and spiritual realities....you have to go out of this physical reality to have a different perspective of time.....so please stop misleading people with your stupid theories |
