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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 08:54 pm:       


Getafix:

Budhudu kuda wife and son ni odiles jump annadu.


annayi nenu ramudu ki oppsite kadu buddhudi ki kadu kani oka ishayam ayanaa wife ni vadilesi vellindi prajala kosame...kani ramudu wife ni anumanam tho pampesadu kada....
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 08:39 pm:       


Getafix:

Budhudu kuda wife and son ni odiles jump annadu. Ramudu kuda same kada..I dont agree to the point Buddha character wise was better than Ram, Shantaram.


 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 08:36 pm:       


Getafix:



no wayy..Budhudu kuda wife and son ni odiles jump annadu. Ramudu kuda same kada..I dont agree to the point Buddha character wise was better than Ram, Shantaram.




That was Gandhi's opinion; You can differ with him.
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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 02:27 pm:       


Shantaram:

"It is difficult to say who was the greatest among Rama, Krishna, Buddha and Jesus...In point of character alone, Buddha was probably the greatest."




no wayy..Budhudu kuda wife and son ni odiles jump annadu. Ramudu kuda same kada..I dont agree to the point Buddha character wise was better than Ram, Shantaram.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 02:09 pm:       


Shantaram:

.I think it means "I bow to Buddha, the Guru of a true religion".


 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:58 pm:       

"had"
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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:57 pm:       

Mahatma Gandhi has some very interesting thoughts on Buddha and Buddhism...

Avi entoo ikkada chepte oka batch kurrol oogipoyii, gwarantee gaa nannu kukka d'lu etti ban seyistaar..kikk



....can't help, but type just this one quote from Gandhiji though...

"It is difficult to say who was the greatest among Rama, Krishna, Buddha and Jesus...In point of character alone, Buddha was probably the greatest."

Even to this day. every prayer in Sevagram Ashram begins with the rendition of "nam myo ho renge kyo"...I think it means "I bow to Buddha, the Guru of a true religion".
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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:51 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

There are sources that say Buddha has said that he was also born as Rama in his earlier life times. Bushist based ramayana is different to the traditional valmiki ramayana.


In vedic literature rama was a common name and there were many ramas. Is it possible that may be buddha was referring to a different rama?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:35 pm:       


Bushu:

who decides?


You are the decider. If you firmly believe you are doing good, go for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:27 pm:       


Bushu:


em chesaadu budha? elaa follow ayyadu, emanna stories unnaaya?




"The Light of Asia" by Edwin Arnold

ee book chadavandi if pozibl....You will know everything you need to know..

Mahatma Gandhi always carried a copy of this book with him, along with Gita and
another book that is a compilation of Jesus words, the name of which I can't recall right now.
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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:58 pm:       

Stories emo kaani shahsi kapoor di oka movie undhi siddhartha ani .. simi garewal beebatsamina esposing pettaru.. message kante simi garewal ekkuva emphasise ayyindi public lo.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:51 pm:       


Bushu:


em chesaadu budha? elaa follow ayyadu, emanna stories unnaaya?


yes...He attained nirvana-fully liberated....by practicing dhamma...we can achieve indeed by practicing Buddha teachings...which is very hard task but can be achieved..at least if you are trying...you are doing good
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:25 pm:       


Veeragandham_apparao:

cheppadam easy..kani cheyadam hard adhe Buddha chesadu...we can do if we want...he practically did and wants us to do...




em chesaadu budha? elaa follow ayyadu, emanna stories unnaaya?
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:16 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

other form of religion that has conflicting ideas within itself.




Yes.. I agree.

Every religion is flawed; which is why religious conversion does not make any sense to me.
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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:49 am:       

Buddha himself said that "Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it".

I feel they are great words of wisdom. chose your path based on your own analysis.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:43 am:       


Shantaram:

Hypothetically, yes..I think it is possible; although I don't see any reason why God would descend on earth and take great pains to deny his very own existence...




well, God took lot more pains to create this world, and there is no saying what this crazy creator is up to.


Shantaram:

t does not matter what Buddhists say today...There are numerous Buddhist school of thoughts out there now, and each one has it's own deviations from what Buddha preached....Buddha himself never believed in the existence of a creator God..In fact, he preached that reliance in God can lead to inaction and eventually become a hindrance to attaining nirvana..There is no way that he could have claimed himself as an Avatar.



precisely, Now what is true. There are schools of thought that Rama and Buddha were contemporaries. There are stories that Buddha was older than Rama. Whatever we prefer to take as the truth, the core essence as proposed by Buddha, is it actually Buddha's or is it from someone else. The birth of buddha has also many different stories.

main stream buddhism does not believe in God, but it does believe in reincarnation and manifestations of soul. I completely agree on this, but my contention was to bring up that buddhism(as a school of thought) is not independent of various versions and deviations from what we actually think it is. you can blame it on hindu's or over zealous followers for the deviations, but to me it seems to one other form of religion that has conflicting ideas within itself.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:35 am:       


Bushu:

detailed variations emanna untaaya ani - curious.


cheppadam easy..kani cheyadam hard adhe Buddha chesadu...we can do if we want...he practically did and wants us to do...
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:35 am:       

Goutham Budha tharvaatha yevaru yemi cheppina..manam pattinchukonakkarledu ani naa abhipraayam. Mnama kuda nirvana ni pondi nappude Budha ni ardham chesukogalam-

Osho says"When you read Dhamma patha(any holy book), you are not reading Budha's Dhamma patha..You are readign your own dhamma patha. The words are by budha, but your own mind is reading that book.So, that is not original dhamma patha. If you want to read Budha's dhamma patha, you got to be budha again.when you are budha..you don't need to read it again. That is the beauty"
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:34 am:       


Bushu:

Isnt that common sense?


If we act according to common sens r right why we do make very simple mistakes? Cos we dotn act according to common sense, we r so ignorant people...
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:32 am:       


Shantaram:

he preached that reliance in God can lead to inaction and eventually become a hindrance to attaining nirvana..There is no way that he could have claimed himself as an Avatar.


yes and even he never believed in formal rituals/rites that the Hindus performed, thats why brahmins at that time became very angry of Budhha's teachings..and tried to stop people not believing Buddha teachings, But Buddha always convined people to try his path, if it suits for some one, and then only 2 follow
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:32 am:       


Veeragandham_apparao:

but before doing that harsh statement you think, analize and act..here the Buddha's teaching comes into place.....




dhaaniki Budhudu dheniki saaar? Isnt that common sense? do good and be good is such a superficial concept, inka detailed variations emanna untaaya ani - curious.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:28 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

In a hypothetical scenario, can an avathara be born as an athiest and formulate athiesm as his philisophy?




1. Hypothetically, yes..I think it is possible; although I don't see any reason why God would descend on earth and take great pains to deny his very own existence...

2. It does not matter what Buddhists say today...There are numerous Buddhist school of thoughts out there now, and each one has it's own deviations from what Buddha preached....Buddha himself never believed in the existence of a creator God..In fact, he preached that reliance in God can lead to inaction and eventually become a hindrance to attaining nirvana..There is no way that he could have claimed himself as an Avatar.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:17 am:       

Buddha is born under a banyan tree (ravi chettu), attained wisdom under banyan tree, died under banyan tree...nature played great role in his life...thats why his teaching applies Universally..
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:12 am:       


Bushu:

who decides?


onself...You know what is bad for you and what is good for you...same applies to everybody....if some one makes harsh words towards you you feel bad how? your gut feeling says this is bad...same way if u make harse words to someone same thing happens to them...but before doing that harsh statement you think, analize and act..here the Buddha's teaching comes into place.....
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:08 am:       


Kalikaalam:

I am alwasy feel that we are fortunate to born in India. Manakunantha swecha andari ki vundadu spirituality lo..Mana ku spiritual gaa oka target antu vunte..manaku saadhana chese avkaasalau/maargaalu kuda yekkuva




annai.. baaga chepparu. Oka veedhi lo mosque, temple,jain matam and church mana desam lone untai anukuntaa. We are unique in that aspect.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:08 am:       

//Do you know the story of Rama in budhist mythology. In mahayanan, lankavatara sutra, there is a story of Ravana, and there are many other references, it will take some time to dig those up. this story is alot different from valmiki ramayana//

I totally don't know about it. If that is true, that is totally surprising to me. I need to do some research on that..
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:07 am:       


Shantaram:

Buddhism as it exists today, is in a sad state of affairs; even though the number of followers is increasing.

It has more or less fallen into the shackles of organized religion; the very evil that Buddhha has never believed in.

Buddhha never claimed himslef as God or an Incarnation of God...
It is impossible for Buddha to do so, because he did NOT believe in the existence of God!!!!



It is not about what Budha did brother. I think we are getting confused.

let me ask you in another way,

Are we assuming that each avathara, has to proclaim the same thing about the existence of god or any other principle.

In a hypothetical scenario, can an avathara be born as an athiest and formulate athiesm as his philisophy?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:05 am:       


Ishan:

All buddha said was to be good and do good. If you are doing that, you are a Buddhist already.




what is good for me could be bad for someone else. who decides?
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:03 am:       


Kalikaalam:

Last paragraph nakau assalu ardham kaaledu.(yemi aduguthunnaarani).

Hindus belive in avataaras and my gut feeling is tha they included Budha as one avataaraa.

Tharuvaathi point: Budh never "belived" in any thing.If anybody thinks that budha believed in something..he did not understnad the basic principle of Budha.

Sorry..mimmlani hurt cheyyaalni kaadu. naaku thelisindi chebuthunnaanu




no offense taken bro,

Meeku ardham kaaledhu ani antunaaru andhuku malli chepthunna,

Do you know the story of Rama in budhist mythology. In mahayanan, lankavatara sutra, there is a story of Ravana, and there are many other references, it will take some time to dig those up. this story is alot different from valmiki ramayana. meeru anattu hindu's add chesaaru ee story ante, why is the story so different from the valmiki ramayana ani aduguthunna.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:01 am:       


Kalikaalam:

am alwasy feel that we are fortunate to born in India. Manakunantha swecha andari ki vundadu spirituality lo..Mana ku spiritual gaa oka target antu vunte..manaku saadhana chese avkaasalau/maargaalu kuda yekkuva..


baa sepparu adhe nenu Gandhiguvera ki cheppa....Following Buddha's teachings is the goal, converting to Bhuddism does NOT mean you are following Buddha..
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:00 am:       

//yeah Buddha said anybody who attains Nirvana aka full liberation can become a Buddha, there are Buddhas before//

This is the essence.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:58 am:       

//Annai..meeru Buddhist aa enti?//

Puutuka tho Hinduvu ni.Inka manam(Hinduvulam) matam maaraalsina avasaram ledu. anni mathalau manave..

I am alwasy feel that we are fortunate to born in India. Manakunantha swecha andari ki vundadu spirituality lo..Mana ku spiritual gaa oka target antu vunte..manaku saadhana chese avkaasalau/maargaalu kuda yekkuva..
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:58 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

so is that a concrete proof that he is Not God?


not only Buddha but many people who followed him attained full liberation...if somebody says a person who attain full liberation will become a God...Then Budhha is...But Budhha claims any one can attain full liberation....
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:57 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:




Buddhism as it exists today, is in a sad state of affairs; even though the number of followers is increasing.

It has more or less fallen into the shackles of organized religion; the very evil that Buddhha has never believed in.

Buddhha never claimed himslef as God or an Incarnation of God...
It is impossible for Buddha to do so, because he did NOT believe in the existence of God!!!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:55 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

every can become the same buddha ani kaadhu kadha, every one can become like a buddha..


any one can attain full liberation ani naa meaning
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:53 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Buddha has said that he was also born as Rama in his earlier life times




pulihara mix kalipaaru evaroo

Gautam Buddha never claimed that he was an incarnation of God..

Infact, Dasavatharams lo Buddha kooda Hindus kalipina masala mix
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:53 am:       

Mental_Sachinod,
Last paragraph nakau assalu ardham kaaledu.(yemi aduguthunnaarani).

Hindus belive in avataaras and my gut feeling is tha they included Budha as one avataaraa.

Tharuvaathi point: Budh never "belived" in any thing.If anybody thinks that budha believed in something..he did not understnad the basic principle of Budha.

Sorry..mimmlani hurt cheyyaalni kaadu. naaku thelisindi chebuthunnaanu
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:51 am:       


Veeragandham_apparao:

yeah Buddha said anybody who attains Nirvana aka full liberation can become a Buddha, there are Buddhas before




That is true, that is the essence of buddha's teachings. that everyone is capable of lifting their souls to be peaceful and live with the natural pains and pleasures without having to giving into worldly pleasures. Every one can be a buddha ante, every can become the same buddha ani kaadhu kadha, every one can become like a buddha..


Veeragandham_apparao:

he never portrayed himself as a God..



Again not denying it. He did not potray himself as a God, so is that a concrete proof that he is Not God? Rama also never potrayed himself as God, but people accepted him as God.

P S : I am not trying to convince anyone that Buddha is a God, these are arguments just to make things clear for me.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:49 am:       


Kalikaalam:


Annai..meeru Buddhist aa enti?
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:45 am:       

Gandhiguevera,
Osho commnets on "Dhammapatha" chaduvu (oka vela chedivi vundaka pothe..)
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:43 am:       


Kalikaalam:

He never said that. Hindus
irikinchaaru. Anthe..Diniki pedha rujuvulu..aadhaaraalu akkarledu. A person like Budha Can never say that.




kalikalam bro,

i will leave it to you what you feel about it, but there are detailed texts and lengthy discussions about this subject. Buddha believed in karma, and re-incarnation, so he must have believed that he had previous births and also births in the future.

saying that i am not denying that Hindus might have made up the story, but I also wouldnt accept it just by the statement "A person like Buddha can never say it".

The first thing that contradicts your theory is that the story of Rama in budhism, it is very different from valmiki ramayana, now if Hindu's were the reason for adding this dimension to Buddha, why did they create a new version it, which is quite controversial w r t valmiki ramayana?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:40 am:       


Kalikaalam:

A person like Budha Can never say that.


yeah Buddha said anybody who attains Nirvana aka full liberation can become a Buddha, there are Buddhas before, afrter and contemporary his times..he never portrayed himself as a God..The beauty of Buddha's teachings is everything is so logical, based up on truth, action-result type.
one story of Buddha time: One woman has a beautiful baby born, but died at very early age. She heard Buddha do some magic to give life to the kid. she goes to Budhha and cries, finally Budhha understood, she is not in a stage to hear what he teach. He asks her to bring some seaseme seed from a family in that city in which NOBODY died so far...
she roams city and asks all people if any body died in their family...finally found there is no family where no death happen..understood death is inevitable...
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:34 am:       

//There are sources that say Buddha has said that he was also born as Rama in his earlier life times//

He never said that. Hindus irikinchaaru. Anthe..Diniki pedha rujuvulu..aadhaaraalu akkarledu. A person like Budha Can never say that.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:31 am:       


santhakam ..
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:30 am:       


Veeragandham_apparao:

Budhha himself never considered a God or he him self never asked ppl to convert to buddhism...but if you feel that by converting asa a buddhist, you can be better its up to you. FOllowing Buddha's teachings is great...it does not mean to convert religions....still its one's OWN pref




I have heard contradictory statements on this. There are sources that say Buddha has said that he was also born as Rama in his earlier life times. Bushist based ramayana is different to the traditional valmiki ramayana.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:10 am:       


Ishan:

. If you are doing that, you are a Buddhist already.


Yes...There is no meaning for a religion, if you rdoing good, be good by heart n pure..u r practicing..it
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:10 am:       


Anand_n:

what matters is how you live your life




Yee process ultimate goal ide sister...to improve it
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:56 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:


All buddha said was to be good and do good. If you are doing that, you are a Buddhist already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:44 pm:       


Shantaram:

Dalailama will visit University of Miami in October antaa...

nuvvu ekkada vuntav




Presently in Florida...moving to CA this month
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:40 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:


Try to go for a vipassana meditation centre...for a 10days course...and see the result..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:31 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:




If you are serious, find a buddhist centre in your town and ask them :-)Like Reentry said - what matters is how you live your life :-)
aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:12 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:


Cycle lo yee step daggara madyalo doori modalu pedatha


anniti kanna idhe attam GG
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 10:47 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:




Che maya

Dalailama will visit University of Miami in October antaa...

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 10:39 pm:       


Veeragandham_apparao:

1. sila-morality right speech/thought/right living




Cycle lo yee step daggara madyalo doori modalu pedatha
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:36 pm:       


Shantaram:

Advaita lo soul and brahman and god ki, vedas lo soul concept ki confuse avutunaar kurrol ani seppali anukuntunna


That also is a different topic. Whether advaitic soul or 'vedic' soul, if vedas believe in soul which is interchangeable with god, then how can sankhya is nasthik? I don't think there is any other concept of god than ritualistic and philosophical and Vedas believe in both. In either case, sankhya can't be nasthik school, its just a misconception.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:34 pm:       


Shantaram:

However, it is belief in Vedas (NOT Vedantha) that makes a school of Philosophy "Astika" as opposed to Nastika.....






kiki....omg
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:30 pm:       

Advaita lo soul and brahman and god ki, vedas lo soul concept ki confuse avutunaar kurrol ani seppali anukuntunna

gtg
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:25 pm:       


Shantaram:


However, it is belief in Vedas (NOT Vedantha) that makes a school of Philosophy "Astika" as opposed to Nastika..


Evolution of hindu schools of thought is altogether a different topic. But our point of contention is that whether sankhya is nasthika or asthika based on its belief in god. Now the concept of soul does exist in non-vedanthic portions of vedas such as aranyakas. Then, how can sankhya be nasthik if it believes in vedas that believe in soul? or Are you saying (I suspect not) that it is nasthik because it doesn't believe in ritual gods that were mentioned in vedas?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:24 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:


Buddha taught 3 stages to become a fully arahant.(enligtened) 1. sila-morality right speech/thought/right living
2.samadhi right concentraion
3. Panya-wisdom....without1 &2 you can not achieve 3.
and with 3 u can achieve 1 &2, this is like a cycle....Buddha taught everything is like a cycle...dying re birth...everything n this world, like a tree-seed. that is the reason Buddhism represented with a wheel, cycle.
Anyways if you want you can convert to become a Buddhist- Good, my view is you DONOT have to become a religious person, to become a better humanbeing..
each and every Buddha's teachings are pure logical, scientific...and more close to atheism.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:15 pm:       


Ishan:

Advaitha is all about existence of universal singularity called Brahman or universal soul. Buddhism doesn't believe in existence of Brahman


Ok
I am convinced now. I will never be a budhist :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:13 pm:       


Ishan:

Vedantha is the summary of upanishads which are part of vedas. Its impossible to separate Vedantha from vedas.




What I meant to say is that vedas are much older than the philosophy of vedantha...

and vedantha is not necessarily the summary of vedas...It has it's own deviations..for example, it has eliminated most of the rituals that vedas themselves have advocated....and The concept of Advaita as advocated by Adisankaracharya is also a bit different; isn't it?

Vedantha is one of the six Orthodox Indian Philosophies...
However, it is belief in Vedas (NOT Vedantha) that makes a school of Philosophy "Astika" as opposed to Nastika.......hope my prior posts make more sense, if you read them after reading this one...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:08 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:

I will try hard to follow the philosphy...


follow Buddha's teachings not merely just follow but by heart, do meditate, not just try to force your mind or control your thoughts, the middle path Buddha taught is Observation..observation of your thoughts, feelings, judgements, fears, everything not just as by your self but as an observer, neither aversion towards your fears,pains no craving towards pleasures...observe,awaken, alert Buddha said" everybody can become a Budhha by practice-a fully awakened one' but in this present world its almost impossible...Buddha never said to go to forests or to shave your head or grow long hair..be in society but be better humanbeing...the core essence of Buddha's teaching is how to live peacefully...with compassion, pure love..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:08 pm:       


Jujung:

Traditionally, some vaishnavaites have argued Shankara might be a covert Buddhist ;)

This link seems to be a very good starting point to learn about several philosophical schools.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/category/traditions/indian/



Ishan:

Advaitha is all about existence of universal singularity called Brahman or universal soul. Buddhism doesn't believe in existence of Brahman.




 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:06 pm:       


Shantaram:


I am talking about Vedas and you are talking about Vedantha.


Vedantha is the summary of upanishads which are part of vedas. Its impossible to separate Vedantha from vedas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:01 pm:       


Veeragandham_apparao:

avasaram leduuu GG...following Buddha's teachings does not mean anything to convert to bhuddism...
try to learn meditation: esp the one i recommend is vipassana which by pracitcing will change the total look of your life not from the outside to some one, but from inside for you. Being a better human being is the best..




6 month trial period...I will try hard to follow the philosphy...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:01 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:


Budhha himself never considered a God or he him self never asked ppl to convert to buddhism...but if you feel that by converting asa a buddhist, you can be better its up to you. FOllowing Buddha's teachings is great...it does not mean to convert religions....still its one's OWN pref
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:00 pm:       


Ishan:

In vedanthic philosophical concept, god and soul are one and the same. Purusha of sankhya is same as soul of vedantha. If believing in soul is asthika vada, then sankhya is asthika vada too.

Here we have to carefully differentiate the conventional gods like krishna rama who are part of rituals and mythology from the soul/god of the actual philosophical 'concept'.






I am talking about Vedas and you are talking about Vedantha.
We are not on the same page here.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:00 pm:       


Shantaram:


Ruj...

The striking similarity between Buddhism and Hinduism is the fundamental belief of both religions in Karma...Both religions strongly advocate the law of karma, and also the philosophy of reincarnation that is attached to the law of karma...They insist that karma is inexorable..

However, while Buddhism believes that karma is infallible, Hinduism believes in a God who eventually implements the Karma...

Apart from that, they are strikingly similar...

Hope I am clear..spelling thaffulu vunte manninchu...artham thaffu aite ban seyyinchu...ground meedi..game meedi


thanks annai..:-)

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:58 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:

Emi cheyyali? evarikanna telsaa?


avasaram leduuu GG...following Buddha's teachings does not mean anything to convert to bhuddism...
try to learn meditation: esp the one i recommend is vipassana which by pracitcing will change the total look of your life not from the outside to some one, but from inside for you. Being a better human being is the best..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:53 pm:       


Shantaram:



Why do you have to believe in God, to believe in the existence of a soul?


In vedanthic philosophical concept, god and soul are one and the same. Purusha of sankhya is same as soul of vedantha. If believing in soul is asthika vada, then sankhya is asthika vada too.

Here we have to carefully differentiate the conventional gods like krishna rama who are part of rituals and mythology from the soul/god of the actual philosophical 'concept'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:38 pm:       


Cocanada:


got it
sounds cool.

This is what Stephen Hawking says - "God governs the universe with out breaking laws of physics"




Yes..similar..

Cocanada:


Do they believe in Kaliyugam?

Manaki...kaliyugam lo oka matrix, vere yugallo vere matrix untundi kada




no idea
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:35 pm:       


Ishan:

Isn't this contradictory? Vedas believe in soul. If samkhya accepts vedas, it also must accept soul. Samkhya is much older than vedas and was developed independently from vedic thought. Purusha of sankhya is nothing but Self or soul of a vedantic belief. Samkhya is the basic psychology of all hindu thoughts. Its neither nasthika nor nireeswara vada.




Why do you have to believe in God, to believe in the existence of a soul?

Yes, you are right that samkhya is older than vedas...It is in fact the oldest of all the Indian Philosophies...and it was Natika

In it's altered and later form, it is classified under Astika thoughts.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:30 pm:       


Shantaram:

Like I already mentioned, They had strong belief in Karma and Reincarnation; but they also advocated that karma is both inexorable and infallible...and that there is no God to alter it or implement it per his whims



got it
sounds cool.

This is what Stephen Hawking says - "God governs the universe with out breaking laws of physics"

Do they believe in Kaliyugam?

Manaki...kaliyugam lo oka matrix, vere yugallo vere matrix untundi kada
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:26 pm:       


Shantaram:

Samkhya philosophy accepts the authority of vedas, but does not believe in God..


Isn't this contradictory? Vedas believe in soul. If samkhya accepts vedas, it also must accept soul. Samkhya is much older than vedas and was developed independently from vedic thought. Purusha of sankhya is nothing but Self or soul of a vedantic belief. Samkhya is the basic psychology of all hindu thoughts. Its neither nasthika nor nireeswara vada.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:26 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:


Can you please give me more details?
Please mail to itsmewinny@gmail.com




nenu weekend vallatho matladi neeku mail chestaa..or, ikkada oka calling thread vestaa..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:20 pm:       


Cocanada:

Correct me if I am wrong. They do not believe in a personal god. Like Krishna,Sri Maha Vishnu, Shiva.

Am I right?




Coke..Truly speaking, Early Buddhist Philosophies did not believe in God..


Like I already mentioned, They had strong belief in Karma and Reincarnation; but they also advocated that karma is both inexorable and infallible...and that there is no God to alter it or implement it per his whims...

However, now they have many schools...like Theravada, Vajrayana and Mahayana....and I am not familiar with the finer details of what each one of them propagates.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:08 pm:       

For all the people out there, dishing out single stars to my posts, I would like to reiterate that I am NOT a Buddhist.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:07 pm:       


Shantaram:


Correct me if I am wrong. They do not believe in a personal god. Like Krishna,Sri Maha Vishnu, Shiva.

Am I right?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:04 pm:       


Shantaram:

..If you are interested, I can get you more details..or may be you can look up yourself....




Can you please give me more details?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:04 pm:       

naa previous post ki s enduku esaro chepte santoshistanu
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:02 pm:       


Cocanada:



ok

what does the word "nastika" mean in this context?




Coke,

Here, it refers to not having belief in the authority of Vedas...

"Non-believers"...Buddhist, Jain and Carvaka..

As you may already know, Samkhya philosophy accepts the authority of vedas, but does not believe in God...It is also a "Nastika" school of philosophy, but the meaning here is different.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:51 pm:       


Shantaram:

Buddhists and Jains do not believe in the authority of Vedic literature...

"nastika" school of Philosophy




ok

what does the word "nastika" mean in this context?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:39 pm:       


Cocanada:


Does anyone know about Mahavir?




Buddhists and Jains do not believe in the authority of Vedic literature...

"nastika" school of Philosophy
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:36 pm:       

Budha
Mahavir
Sankara
Madhvacharya
Ramanuja
Chaitanya

all are Indian

Budha defied vedic authority

I know the others did not.

Does anyone know about Mahavir?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:33 pm:       


Ruj:


buddhism ki Adi Shankara Charya prabhodincina advaita vedantha ki theda enti..hmm..rendu okatela anipisthayi...vivaralo loki velthe theda telustundhi emo..


Advaitha is all about existence of universal singularity called Brahman or universal soul. Buddhism doesn't believe in existence of Brahman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:31 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

there are official ceremonies for accepting hinduism, but by no means a rule or a necessity like baptism.




i agree...it is optional to have any ceremony. when we buy a car..we do car pooja. there was no such pooja (at least not that i know...i know about ayudha pooja..which is done on a special day...but car pooja can be done any day)..it is done for our satisfaction.

so...if you want to do special ceremony for converting into hindu...yes you can...if u dont want...fine.
nannu involvecheyakandi sir
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:27 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

there are official ceremonies for accepting hinduism, but by no means a rule or a necessity like baptism.





thats my point

when people say they are converting, they dont actually know what they are refuting.

all they will know is hindus are different and they are different.

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:26 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:



mental baa...thanks for the post.

kaani kaalam tho paatu mana vidhanalu marutunnay. usa etc countries lo untey konni sarlu mana pandagalu manaki teluvad (db's/news papers follow avakapotey).

so...at present for hindhu there are no rules/obligations... i would consider a hindhu who believes that he is hindu and does good things and writes in application forms as hindu...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:25 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:




Dalailama will be visiting USA this summer..

A couple of my friends are making arrangements to meet him..If you are interested, I can get you more details..or may be you can look up yourself....
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:24 pm:       


Cocanada:

I am assuming you are a hindu now. Having known about hinduism, what will you answer if some one asks you "how do I convert to hinduism?"




coke bro,
Hinduism has changed(or lets say evolved) considerably over time. ivaala conversion to hinduism ledhu ante ledhu.. undhi ante undhi, it depends on the individual. there are official ceremonies for accepting hinduism, but by no means a rule or a necessity like baptism.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:23 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:




mama

conversion means...you have to leave something and start believing in something new. you HAVE to believe that hinduism is wrong and bushism is absolutely right.

What is the difference between hinduism and budhism?
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Gandhiguevara:


antey vaadi bhaada naaku artham ayindi mastaru. vaadiki engilipeechu language touble daaniki todu naaluka tirakka yededo cheppad kasta padi.

athanu cheppapoyindi..."No Strings Attached and Nothing is Permanent" ani... adi chepparaka (engleeshulo yeeku kada...it is about nothing ani decide chesi chinki language skills oka saari prove chesukunnad). nenu ataniki yemi clues ivvakunda...language correct cheyakunda..vaadu cheppindi vini oka kochen adiga...neevu kooda boodist vaa ani antey.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:21 pm:       


Ruj:

buddhism ki Adi Shankara Charya prabhodincina advaita vedantha ki theda enti..hmm..rendu okatela anipisthayi...vivaralo loki velthe theda telustundhi emo..




Traditionally, some vaishnavaites have argued Shankara might be a covert Buddhist ;)

This link seems to be a very good starting point to learn about several philosophical schools.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/category/traditions/indian/
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Ruj:

buddhism ki Adi Shankara Charya prabhodincina advaita vedantha ki theda enti..hmm..rendu okatela anipisthayi...vivaralo loki velthe theda telustundhi emo..




Ruj...

The striking similarity between Buddhism and Hinduism is the fundamental belief of both religions in Karma...Both religions strongly advocate the law of karma, and also the philosophy of reincarnation that is attached to the law of karma...They insist that karma is inexorable..

However, while Buddhism believes that karma is infallible, Hinduism believes in a God who eventually implements the Karma...

Apart from that, they are strikingly similar...

Hope I am clear..spelling thaffulu vunte manninchu...artham thaffu aite ban seyyinchu...ground meedi..game meedi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:21 pm:       


Cocanada:

I am assuming you are a hindu
now. Having known about hinduism, what will you answer if some one asks you "how do I convert to hinduism?"




Five obligations of Hindus.

Upasana, Worship: Young Hindus are taught daily worship in the family shrine room -- rituals, disciplines, chants, yogas and religious study. They learn to be secure through devotion in home and temple, wearing traditional dress, bringing forth love of the Divine and preparing the mind for serene meditation.

Utsava, Celebration: Young Hindus are taught to participate in Hindu festivals and holy days in the home and temple. They learn to be happy through sweet communion with God at such auspicious celebrations. Utsava includes fasting and attending the temple on Monday or Friday and other holy days.

Virtuous living, Dharma: Young Hindus are taught to live a life of duty and good conduct. They learn to be selfless by thinking of others first, being respectful of parents, elders and swamis, following divine law, especially ahimsa, mental, emotional and physical noninjury to all beings. Thus they resolve karmas.

Teerthayathra, Piligrimage: Young Hindus are taught the value of pilgrimage and are taken at least once a year for darshana of holy persons, temples and places, near or far. They learn to be detached by setting aside worldly affairs and making God, Gods and gurus life's singular focus during these journeys.

SAMSKARA, Rites of passage : Young Hindus are taught to observe the many sacraments which mark and sanctify their passages through life. They learn to be traditional by celebrating the rites of birth, name-giving, head-shaving, first feeding, ear-piercing, first learning, coming of age, marriage and death.


Entering Hinduism has traditionally required little more than accepting and living the beliefs and codes of Hindus. This remains the basic factor in the process, although there are and always have been formal ceremonies recognizing entrance into the religion -- particularly the namakarana samskara, or naming rite in the case of adoptives and converts, and the vratyastoma, vow-taking rite, in the case of those returning to one sect or another of the Hindu religion.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:17 pm:       


Raogaru:

there are no principles etc ani class peekad


 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:15 pm:       


Cocanada:

Adi Sankara gurinchi chadive uddesam e undaali kaanee

budhists tho debate chesi...vallane convert chesaadu. mahanubhavudu



bharata desamlo buddhism baaga prachuryam ponduthuna samayamlo ee enno charachalo, vedikalalo palguni logic reasong dwaara odinchevadu iturulanu...malli hinduism poorthiga revive avvataniki karanam ayina mukya pramukhulo eeyana okaru
 

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Ferrari:

freedom of speech ledhu freedom of beach ledhu




Freedom of speech anteeduti vallani pachibuthulu thittadam kaadu...inka freedom of beach kaavali ante Miami lanti chotla ki moveaipo
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:12 pm:       


Cocanada:

what is the difference in believing in budhism, following budhism
and
converting into budhism?




Believe in Budhism first stage...ideology telskunnaka adi nachadam
Following budhism ...aaa ideology ni follow avvadam, acharinchadam
Conversion...idi final stage, deeni valla naa tarvatha taralu kudaa affect avutayi


Cocanada:

Having known about hinduism, what will you answer if some one asks you "how do I convert to hinduism?"




 

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Elcaminocapastrino:

dalai lama antey 2012 cinema lo himalayas pina water osthuntey susi ganta kodatha untadu ayanena???


elca annai...dalai lama meedha jokes ethey kurrolu dhobbe la unnaru..:d...chass freedom of speech ledhu freedom of beach ledhu...rama emiti e drama...makendhuku e trauma...i want to speak to dalai lama....between ni style lo...my name is ferrari lama and iam not a buddhist
 

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Life_sucks:

boothulu matladakudadhu, non veg thinakudadhu anukunta.. not sure




Asalu religion ki ilanti lifestyle habits ki ponthana vundademo, evarishtam vachhinatu vallu untaru. Chala mandi buddhists/hindus vunnaru kanpinchina prati jeevini thinevallu.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:09 pm:       


Cocanada:

how do I convert to hinduism?



yemi special thing akkarledu anukunta. gudiki etc velladam optional. muxlims laa x times namaaz...x times inkedo cheyakkarledu.

just believe that you are a hindu...alaagey tellalist aiytey, attanti panulu apeyali...loka kalyanam is mana kalyanam ani anukovali...anta chaalu anukuntaa...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:08 pm:       


Reentry:

BUDDHIGAA unte ee "ism" ayinaa parledhu thammudu




I agree
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:07 pm:       


Ruj:

buddhism ki Adi Shankara Charya prabhodincina advaita vedantha ki theda enti..hmm..rendu okatela anipisthayi...vivaralo loki velthe theda telustundhi emo..




Adi Sankara gurinchi chadive uddesam e undaali kaanee

budhists tho debate chesi...vallane convert chesaadu. mahanubhavudu
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:05 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:




annai

oka serious question.

what is the difference in believing in budhism, following budhism
and
converting into budhism?

I am assuming you are a hindu now. Having known about hinduism, what will you answer if some one asks you "how do I convert to hinduism?"


Please answer both questions
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Cocanada.. inthaki thread review chesava ? result enti ?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:04 pm:       

buddhism ki Adi Shankara Charya prabhodincina advaita vedantha ki theda enti..hmm..rendu okatela anipisthayi...vivaralo loki velthe theda telustundhi emo..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:04 pm:       

nenu saduvukuney rojullo oka chinki gaadu undevadu...same project lo pani chesam. vaadu sudden gaa oka roju...(off the topic) budism is about nothing you know annad. antey adi yela antey...alaagey teach chesar...maaki chinalo ani cheppad. there are no principles etc ani class peekad yedava.

so if you know nothing, you are budist ani decide chesi cheppad chinkigaadu. appudu nenu aiytey neeku yemi teluvad kada budism gurunchi so neevu boodist vaa ani adigaa?? appudu vaadu avunu maa pamily lo thatha garu boodist...taruvatha mem kirasanoil sanghamlo cheri yeekly churchlo baaga fun fun ani cheppad.

(basical gaa muxlims lo if you dont believe alla you are kafir...and not a human. buddhism lo you can't attach to anything...nothing is permanent ani essence.)

so daaniki chinkigaad...yedo tikamaka ayi...pichi pichi gaa yededo cheppad...adi story.
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boothulu matladakudadhu, non veg thinakudadhu anukunta.. not sure
 

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Ferrari:

velli dalai lama ni meeru evitlu anali




Yeyanani guarantee gaa aduguthanu...endukante yeyana kontha varaku parledu kaani...100% aa post ki apt kaadu anifisthandi
 

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Bushu:

enduku?



enduku ante emi cheppanu? aa ideology baaga nachindi

Buddhist Epistemology...yee book sadivaa recent gaa...konni documentaries and articles sadivaa...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:02 pm:       

BUDDHIGAA unte ee "ism" ayinaa parledhu thammudu
Best of luck
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:01 pm:       

gandhiguevera bro..if u manage to convert, you will be the only budhist N fan anukuntunna..
 

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Ferrari:

dalai lama


dalai lama antey 2012 cinema lo himalayas pina water osthuntey susi ganta kodatha untadu ayanena???
 

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Gandhiguevara:

Yes


why?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:00 pm:       

evari meeda kopam ochindi?
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Gandhiguevara:

Emi cheyyali?


velli dalai lama ni meeru evitlu anali...:D
 

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Jp_rocks:

serious aa bro?




Yes
 

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Gandhiguevara:




enduku?
 

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Gandhiguevara:

Emi cheyyali? evarikanna telsaa?


serious aa bro?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:56 pm:       


Takeitez:

contact hollywood liberals




Elagooo yee weel calif movie avuthunnaa...kalusthanu...valla daggara details vuntaya?
 

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gandhi tammud, contact hollywood liberals
TakeitEZ!
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:54 pm:       


Rasputin:

Bodhi chettu kinda koorchovaalemO?




Budhudni avvali analedu...Budhism convertion gurinchi adugutunna
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:53 pm:       

Bodhi chettu kinda koorchovaalemO?
Getafix: I bet Arjun kuda edo krishnudu tho unna dosti valla mohamatam tho kudina bhayam valla ochina gouravam tho Gita saaram artham ayyndi ani thala oopi untad kani nijanga artham ayyi unadadhu.. hehe
 

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Emi cheyyali? evarikanna telsaa?

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