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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 09:24 pm:       


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dialogues bagunnai ... edanna bala cinemalo dialogues ga pettu ... super set autai



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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 09:21 pm:       


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chesuko poyina pedda pekedemi ledu annapudu.....andaru enduku oogipoyaaru...




kani nachakapote cheppakunda undalem kadaa ... chebte aagutavemo ani ...ippudu maata vinakapote ninnu memu peekedemi ledu ani ... anthe ... ninnu annadi emi ledu danlo

oogipovadamaa? haha ... alaa oogipoyi aavesam gaa posts vesthe intasepu naato nuvvu matladalev ... lite teesko brother ... just suggesting to limit your criticism(guess, hatred is appropriate word here) ... vinadam, vinakapovadam nee ishtam ... rest nee USA culture :-)



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nuvvu country feeling chupiste....nenu religion feeling chupista...

nuvvu religion feeling chupiste....nenu caste feeling chupista...




dialogues bagunnai ... edanna bala cinemalo dialogues ga pettu ... super set autai :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:55 pm:       


Rowdy:



Bottom line: nee posts on India hurts me(us) a lot ... artham cheskunte better ... cheskokapoyinaa pedda peekedem ledu anuko




chesuko poyina pedda pekedemi ledu annapudu.....andaru enduku oogipoyaaru...

enduku personals ki poyaaru.....anni mee istamena..? meere edi septe adena...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:54 pm:       


Rowdy:


celebrities ki communities/religions/groups ki annitiki kalipi oke link pedatava?




Yes ...nenu kinde cheppa...

nuvvu country feeling chupiste....nenu religion feeling chupista...

nuvvu religion feeling chupiste....nenu caste feeling chupista...

wats wrong..?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:52 pm:       


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nenu chiru family ni comment chesa anuko....nuvvu NTR family ni comment chestaav...




celebrities ki communities/religions/groups ki annitiki kalipi oke link pedatava?

Chiru/PK ante naku abhimanam ... vallani annappudu obvious gaa kaluddi ... but guddigaa samarthinchanu annitiki(idi depends on the other person though) ... same thing applies to you here ... even TDP Caste politics gurinchi ainaa sare ... oka community ni uddesinchi kaadu adi ... oka party, party lo ni vyaktula gurinchi ...

kani ivi kondari beliefs, sentiments ... vatini debbakottettu matladadam neechati neecham ... muslims ni banda butulu titte dbers ni chusanu ... vallani kelakadam kuda penta meeda raaye ... nuvvu different ... criticising ki abusing ki teda untundi ... nuvvu criticise chestunnaa anukuntav kani avi aa line daati potuntai prati sari ...

ennellu aindi bhai India vadili vachi? ... enta telusu niku mana history/puranalu/paddatulu gurinchi? ... elaa compare chestunnav US/India la ni? ... asalu renditi histories ki pontana undaa? ... NTR/CBN lantolla ni support chese vadivi vallu unde nela meeda gauravam leda? ... funny ga ledaa? GPS la gurinchi adigite akkada kuda Indian mentality ani vastav ...


Bottom line: nee posts on India hurts me(us) a lot ... artham cheskunte better ... cheskokapoyinaa pedda peekedem ledu anuko

idi vachina roju aa GPS post lo ne cheppetodini ... kani nannu activate cheyyaniki time teeskunnaru admin peddalu ...

bye ... naku pani undi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:39 pm:       


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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:38 pm:       

OT annai..

After all tirupathi SVU lo adhee MA Arts chesina CBN design chesina CCT scheme ni nammadaaniki DER emannaa amaayakudaa??
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:38 pm:       


Raogaru:

tammud yee bhoomi meeda anyayam leni place ledu.




anyayam veru...Prostitution veru antunna annai...

ekada anyayam jaruguddi...India lo prostitution jaruguddi..
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:37 pm:       


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... Chi ... nuvvu marav ... neeku cheppadam kuda dandage ... edhava jeevitam(ninnu kaadu le ... nannu nene tittukuntunna) ...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:36 pm:       


Rowdy:

nee logic prakarame teesukunnaa evado murkhudu religion ni abuse chestunnadu, caste ni abuse chestunnadu kabatti nenu kuda ade gaddi tintanu anadam murkhatvam avuddi kadaa .


kaani India lo andaru ade murkatvam ni follow avutaaru...

nenu chiru family ni comment chesa anuko....nuvvu NTR family ni comment chestaav...

nenu gaddi tinna kada ani ...nuvvu enduku maneyavu .....edi ante....

neetulu baaga septaaru...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:35 pm:       


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tammud yee bhoomi meeda anyayam leni place ledu. neevu antariksham lo kaapuram pettey...sammaga untadi...akkada neevu cheppindey vedam...neevu palikindey nyayam..total nyayabhadda maina jeevitam untadi.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:34 pm:       


Rowdy:




OOPS ... idi NTR_ROCKS ni uddesinchi ... aa comment kuda NTR_rocks de anukunta :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:33 pm:       


Raogaru:


oka 10M ivvu




10M enta mandi deggara vuntayi....India lo 10000 enta mandi deggara vuntayi...alochinchu,..

India lo kavalante negotiate kuda cheyachu....

leni vaadu guddite 10000...

middle class family 1 lakh..

Vunna vaadu guddite 10 lakhs...Prostitution...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:32 pm:       


Shantaram:

alaage nenu religion feeling...country feeling chupettina vadini chustaanu....wats the diff?




boss, niku oka view/opinion undochu ... India annitlonu correct ani evvadu anadu ... neeto problem emitante ... inka India anna vishayam kanapadite chalu waste country annattu matladatav ... sandarbham edainaa kaani anavasaram niku ... idi country feeling chupinchadam kaadaa(in the other way)? ... andariki kaledendukante, nuvvu chupinche country feeling vere desam meeda kaadu ... ikkada andaru putti perigina Country ni d'tunnav ... adi problem ... difference artham chesko ...

paigaa India meeda kudaa aa kudithi brahmi_laugh clips ... chala asahyam gaa untadi ala chesinappudu ... nee logic prakarame teesukunnaa evado murkhudu religion ni abuse chestunnadu, caste ni abuse chestunnadu kabatti nenu kuda ade gaddi tintanu anadam murkhatvam avuddi kadaa ...
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:31 pm:       


Raogaru:


oka 10M ivvu..adi kooda usa lo chesi choopista..




India lo 10thousand rupees chaalu annai...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:30 pm:       


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edi oka sari DUI chesi okadini guddi champu US lo chusta...



oka 10M ivvu..adi kooda usa lo chesi choopista...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:23 pm:       


Raogaru:

money untey yekkadaina yedaina cheyochu.




neeku ala anipinchinda.....edi oka sari DUI chesi okadini guddi champu US lo chusta...

ee chinna pane cheyalev....vunna money anta pettali aina vastamo raavo teliyadu bayataki....

edi India lo anuko....
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:20 pm:       


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idhigo ee policy country valla citizen ki ibbandhi undhi ani cheppu..




US vaadu vachi H-1 rules ani teste ...andariki ekado kalipotadi...

putti perigina desam lo...okadu ekada vundaddu...ekada nunchi denkeyandi antaadu....

Evanni correct annai...

mana intlo vaadu rape chesina...murder chesina enta money aina petti kapadukuntaam....pakkana vaadu cheste kandistaam...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:18 pm:       


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idhigo ee policy country valla citizen ki ibbandhi undhi ani cheppu.. nenu neetho kalisi gontetti arustta




ee policy valla tappu ledo cheppu...

SC ST lu ani cheppi vallani takkuvaga chustam tappu kaada?

muslims ani cheppi vallaki reservation istam tappu kaada?

Talent vunna vadiki vachina rank kante takkuva vachina SC ST laki seats istaaru...edi tappu kaada?

okadu lands ni kabja chestaadu...okadu pillalni champestaadu...85 yrs governor sex scandals chestaadu...okadu shootings chesi..asalu jail ke vellakunda vastaadu...
asalu India lo oppu edo seppu...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:14 pm:       

http://conferences.ifpri.org/2020chinaconference/day1/presen tations/C1-2-3_FMakiwane.ppt
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:12 pm:       

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_cash-transfer-schemes-c an-be-effective-in-poverty-alleviation_1245873


* 30 countries are experimenting with one or the other form CCTs
* Benefits from CCT
Under the CCT scheme implemented in most of the countries, money is directly provided to the poor families after entering into a "social contract" with the beneficiaries --- for example, the cash is paid on the condition that the beneficiary should send the children to school regularly or bring them to health centres. The cash provided is expected to bring in emergency assistance to the poor while the conditions promote longer-term investments in human capital, in terms of increased health and education. The cash is generally paid to the female member of the family.

The burden of the scheme on the exchequer is also not heavy when compared with the benefits accrued to the society. The CCT scheme of Brazil, for example, which is treated as the largest single anti-poverty scheme in the world, covers 11 million, a quarter of the country's population, and yet it involves an outlay only equal to 0.8% of the GDP. Similar is the experience in Mexico where, too, 25% of the people are covered under the scheme.

The administrative costs under the scheme are also not much. In Mexico, for instance, though $1.34 was spent for providing one dollar during the initial year, it has now come down to 5 cents after putting the necessary infrastructure in place.

Impressed with this success of CCTs, the World Bank has decided to lend $2.4 billion in 2009 to support CCT operations in 13 countries.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:10 pm:       


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annai country ante..nee drustilo citizens and politicians ee na? or inka emanna vunda?




thappu thammudu.. country ante veru.. country lo rules anni unnai..

bribe iyyakoodadhu kaani isttamu teesukuntaamu.. ikkada policy implement chesindhi country anukunte paatinchanidhi evvaru cheppu.. alaage bala karmika vyavastta chatta rithya neram.. kaakunte paatinchamu reason policy petina country and gov kaadhu.. implement cheyyani edhavaladhi.. so india ni thidithe logic ledhu.. manam thittalsindhi implement sarigga cheyyani edhavalani...

anthendhuku bahiranga moothra mala visarjana wrong.. kaani ippatiki chaala daggara manam choosttamu.. thappevadidhi antaavu.. desam dhaa.. desam lo unna janaladha..

idhigo ee policy country valla citizen ki ibbandhi undhi ani cheppu.. nenu neetho kalisi gontetti arustta
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:10 pm:       


Raogaru:

money untey yekkadaina yedaina cheyochu.



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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:55 pm:       


Ntr_rocks:

India lo kullu kutra....money vunte emanna cheyachu...


money untey yekkadaina yedaina cheyochu. yee bhoomi meeda kutra..kullu..corruption place leni chotu ledu.

manam correct gaa untey...automatic gaa konni vandala yrs taruvata desam kooda correctgaa untadi...anteykaani...desamlo janal baalerani manam tappu margam lo velitey desam tondaraga m kudustadi...antey difference.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:51 pm:       


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Der annai

nenu work chestunnanu similar project meeda. Govt does offer cash assistance as a program but eligibility criteria are very very complex

But CBN too much. You can not run an election on cash transfer. Obviously majority can not be given cash
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:47 pm:       


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nenu seppedi ade....

Country feeling chupettinapudu....

Religion feeling chupettachu....alage caste feeling kuda chupettachu....

Ekado siddartha college caste feeling chupiste....meeru vallani murkhula chustaaru...

alaage nenu religion feeling...country feeling chupettina vadini chustaanu....wats the diff?




In a sad way,this is true...

Is patriotism a virtue? hmmmmm.......
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:45 pm:       


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ippudu neekemi anyayam sesindhi as a country india seppu..




India lo kullu kutra....money vunte emanna cheyachu...denini elaborate cheste chaala vundi...so lite tesuko....
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annai country ante..nee drustilo citizens and politicians ee na? or inka emanna vunda?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:42 pm:       


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annai kinda Jeter ane atanu...Brahmi icon pettadu...akada kuda vundi chudu aa post...edi cheyi..
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:42 pm:       


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Ede annai point...pakistan lo konta mandi tappu cheste...mottam pakistan ne enduku antam or mottam muslims ne enduku antaam.....naa logic kuda ante...




uppudu.. pakodu mana meedha 4 saarlu egeskoni vachhadu.. country gaa adhi thappu sesindhi manam gammuna unna kooda keliki.. so thittadam lo oka paramaaradham undhi as indian gaa.. ippudu neekemi anyayam sesindhi as a country india seppu..
YSR AMAR RAHE
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:39 pm:       


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ippudu 4 thulakollu thappu sette mottam thulakalane ante manaku kopam vasttadhi kadha.




Ede annai point...pakistan lo konta mandi tappu cheste...mottam pakistan ne enduku antam or mottam muslims ne enduku antaam.....naa logic kuda ante...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:36 pm:       

Der

Money Transfer Scheme is FAR FAR FAR better especially in a HIGH CORRUPT country like us! If money being spent is not helping people even 30% only two ways....one is streamline the whole system to bring corruption to rock bottom level so that fruits of spending goes to people! Ala kudaradu aneppudu it is better to atleast give money to the needy!

Mana lanti country lo dabbu unna vaadide rajyam! Mana vyavastha yentha daarunam ante....JALA YEGNAM annaru.....MOBILIZATION ADVANCES velli poyay, 10-20% work chesi aapesaru! Ippudu inko 10 years ayina complete kaavu! Mari karchu pettina dabbu yevadiki pothundi? Already 100s crores undi nayano bhayano malli projects techhukunnolla ke malli dabbu!

Normal public howle gallu ayipothunnar mana country lo! I strongly support CASH TRANSFER which already happening in USA too! Ikkada oka GC or Citizen ki udyogam pothe 9 months koddi mutta chepthunnar! Mana lanti HIGHLY CORRUPT Country lo DIRECT BANK nundi person account lo pade la scheme pettali and daani ki conditions decide chesi implement cheyali!
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:35 pm:       


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soolledhu.. ayina sorry seppu nuvvu.. as indian gaa naa manobhaavalu teevram gaa debba teesavu.. nuvvu anna context lo choostte blame politicians not country.. blame sick menatlaity ppl not country.. ippudu 4 thulakollu thappu sette mottam thulakalane ante manaku kopam vasttadhi kadha.. idhi kooda anthe..

blame ppl not country.. we irresponsible gaa behave sesi country ni atta sesaamu.. desam manalni eti sesindhi.. logic ee kadha
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:25 pm:       


Rowdy:



ya vjarowdy telusu.. gud to see u again..
thnx for the compliments..
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:13 pm:       


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Mods, personal abuse chesina .. caste abuse chesina thadaka choopinche meeru .. ee statement ki kurrod ki edaina "special sanmanam" cheyyandi ..




nenu seppedi ade....

Country feeling chupettinapudu....

Religion feeling chupettachu....alage caste feeling kuda chupettachu....

Ekado siddartha college caste feeling chupiste....meeru vallani murkhula chustaaru...

alaage nenu religion feeling...country feeling chupettina vadini chustaanu....wats the diff?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:10 pm:       

Mods endo...Edit kuda seyyatam ledu...ki ki ki...

thoti DBer ni tidite...pandaga sesukuntunnaaru....
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:03 pm:       

chass yee thed ippudey choosa.


Ntr_rocks:

India pedda Boku country...


ilanti statements istey mana mother ni tittukunnattey bro. neekala anipinchaledantey...naaku yenduko believable gaa ledu. irrespective of religion, country comes first ani naa belief...idi nammakapotey vaadu nijamaina kafir ani naa nammakam.

anyway cool down.

off the topic but....
ilaaagey oka frnd undevaadu (adey halal b vaadu). daily yedo oka topic meeda baaga bp raise chesukunevaadu...saati hindus ni rechagottadaaniki try chesey vaadu. chivarki maa manager chinki ni kooda oka few times recha gottadaaniki try chesad. oka roju right hand madyalo baaga kaalchukuni vachad office ki. appudu maa manager direct gaa anesaad...andari mundara (maaku shock yemiti ilaa anesaad ani)...are you taking any tellalism training ani... maaku shock...vaadiki shock... vaadu yemi analedu...kakapotey with in few months lo job change chesi dobbad.

just yedo cheppalani anipinchindi...

cool down bro.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:55 pm:       


Jujung:

mee id enti akkada?




same ye ... (vja)rowdy ani unde
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:51 pm:       


Jujung:



yes.. i'm surprised smone remembered after all these years..




:D ... marchipotama ... e puzzle ichina takkuna vachi solve chesetollu maku chance ivvakundaa j/k*

mee posts nachevi ... and mee blog okati(meedenemo telidu, jujung peru to undi :D) follow ayyetodini ... so bagane gurtu :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:31 pm:       

Test
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 06:06 pm:       


Rowdy:

r u the same jujung from agyz?




yes.. i'm surprised smone remembered after all these years.. mee id enti akkada?

@Indiarocks,
I am only comparing the value generated by subsidies, nrega, free loan waiver vs. that generated by direct cash transfer.. I am in fact more inclined towards the social security plan proposed by LSP
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:50 pm:       


Idle_yzag:




neeku antha noti dhoola endhuku yenakabbada yabraasi ? kiki
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:46 pm:       


Jujung:

As always, the main hurdle is identifying the truly needy and creating a viable system. I doubt tdp really thought through the realities except as a bait to gullible voters. A viable social security plan should have been proposed based on the individual's contributions and need. As far as I know, loksatta had a social security plan.




I completely agree with this ... intaka munupu BPL ani unde ... same CBN Govt lo ... utter failure ... complete bogus ... media debbaki aapesaru appatlo ... mundu janalani identify cheyyakunda ilantivi cheste khajana ki pedda bokka tappa emi undadu

BTW: r u the same jujung from agyz?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:32 pm:       


Jujung:

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Swaminomics/entry/c ash-transfers-better-than-drought
Cash transfers are better than drought relief works, even as per free-market Swaminomics. Such direct transfer prevent leakages and unnecessary expenditure on govt bureaucracy and provides relief to distressed poor. (--compared to social plans like 100000cr nrega, indiscriminate loan waiver, etc)

I tend to agree with this view since the govts in India for 60 years have proven to be utterly incapable of improving public services. So, instead they can directly give the money to the needy who in turn can get what they want. The market will be eager to supply the goods to this new consumer group. Instead of the money rotting in swiss bank accounts of politicians/bureaucracy it can directly go to the poor.

As always, the main hurdle is identifying the truly needy and creating a viable system. I doubt tdp really thought through the realities except as a bait to gullible voters. A viable social security plan should have been proposed based on the individual's contributions and need. As far as I know, loksatta had a social security plan.




Do we have that much money to distribute among pplfor nothing?

Are we not severely understaffed in almost every Govt. office?

Social security plan ki, free money distribution ki difference leda?

Brazil lo implement chesindi with a specific purpose in mind, for a particular time period. CBN scheme lo ilantivi emanna unnaya?

Ika deeniki Infy Nandan Nilekani support anna coloring mathram
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:22 pm:       


Telugubabu:

congress ruling lo vundi. akakda courts vunnayi.


courts yendhi annai, govt ki party ki chala diff vundi

Telugubabu:

maniddaram chala better. thittukokunda kottukokunda discuss chesam. pakka threads lo thongi choosthe naa kaalla kinda bhoomi kaduluthunnattu anipinchindi. thanks for discussing. VIZAG rocks. ee rojuki chaalu. bye.




Bye
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:19 pm:       


Idle_yzag:




maniddaram chala better. thittukokunda kottukokunda discuss chesam. pakka threads lo thongi choosthe naa kaalla kinda bhoomi kaduluthunnattu anipinchindi. thanks for discussing. VIZAG rocks. ee rojuki chaalu. bye.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:13 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

idhe mare kamedy of combodia ante, okkatante okkati free analedhu 2009 lo




congress ruling lo vundi. akakda courts vunnayi.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:03 pm:       


Telugubabu:

congress mind lo kooda vundi. congress, TDP madyana discussion intresting ga vundadu.


idhe mare kamedy of combodia ante, okkatante okkati free analedhu 2009 lo
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:02 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

yee congress aithe yenti? subsidy ivvakunda cash annaledhu babu goru, he says both

subsidy ivvakapothe inka govt procure cheyaru goods ni, that is a bigger problem




cash scheme & subsidies congress opposition lo vundi vunte promise chesevaru. congress mind lo kooda vundi. congress, TDP madyana discussion intresting ga vundadu. same policies. ofcourse parties anni alane vunnayi.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:53 pm:       

Varini enduku oogipotunnaru andaru..

Der annai aithe lafangi vedava anta.., ki ki ki

comedy at it's peak saami .. Navvaleda satunna...

Enti Der annai ni ban chesara lafangi vedava annanduku.. Plz unban him..
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:52 pm:       


Kingaa_bongaa:

yeah idea baagundhi, but yu see the scope of this scheme? aa slums lo evadiki ichaamo, evadiki ivvaledho, not that easy, again, ladies daggarnunchi kotti dabbul laakkodam entha sepu?




hmm. naa idea kaadu. ladies ke istharu. kotti dabbulu laakkovadam antava rare cases anukunta. state antha ade jarigithe we have a bigger problem than cash transfer scheme anukunta. ration shops choodu brother ela vunnayo. aa bldg ki pay cheyyali. work chese vallaki pay cheyyali. quality control, transporation, stocking. govt ki intha thala noppi avasaram antava ?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:50 pm:       


Telugubabu:


details vaddule thammudu ippudu . present congress anna. YSR congress kaadu . don't worry


yee congress aithe yenti? subsidy ivvakunda cash annaledhu babu goru, he says both

subsidy ivvakapothe inka govt procure cheyaru goods ni, that is a bigger problem
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:42 pm:       

The comparison here's between how much "value" is ultimately obtained by the needy through corruption ridden subsidy programs vs. direct cash transfer.


Kingaa_bongaa:

janaalu dabbul theeskuni direct gaa saaray kottuki elthaar. entha kooli vaadainaaa rojuki vache kooli lo save cheskunte paiki vasthaaru. first thing they do is go directly to saaray kottu. I dont think direct money transfer is good. Yeah may be food coupons, cause you cant buy alcohol with those.




First I think people have a right to spend their money the way they want. Secondly I do not think all poor people waste their money. The people who waste money will waste irrespective of whether they are poor/rich. "Free money" might be more prone to get wasted, however, good habits might be encouraged through proper incentives. For instance, Loksatta suggested matching contributions as opposed to direct distribution.

http://www.loksatta.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&vie w=article&id=74&Itemid=93
"Under the scheme, a family that saves Rs.400 a month will receive an equivalent matching grant from the Government so that in seven years, it will have accumulated upto Rs.1,00,000 including interest."
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:39 pm:       


Telugubabu:

ladies account loki velthundi. vaallu kooda saaray thagithe vallani devude rakshinchali


yeah idea baagundhi, but yu see the scope of this scheme? aa slums lo evadiki ichaamo, evadiki ivvaledho, not that easy, again, ladies daggarnunchi kotti dabbul laakkodam entha sepu?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:36 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

yee scheme seppandi sir plzzz, middleman yevaru thintunarooo kuda seppandi sir plzzz




details vaddule thammudu ippudu . present congress anna. YSR congress kaadu . don't worry
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:33 pm:       


Kingaa_bongaa:

janaalu dabbul theeskuni direct gaa saaray kottuki elthaar. entha kooli vaadainaaa rojuki vache kooli lo save cheskunte paiki vasthaaru. first thing they do is go directly to saaray kottu. I dont think direct money transfer is good. Yeah may be food coupons, cause you cant buy alcohol with those.




ladies account loki velthundi. vaallu kooda saaray thagithe vallani devude rakshinchali
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:26 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

chiru ni nammaru ani seppana pakkeru?




Fakeeru annava..ledha emanna coveringu vundha?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:22 pm:       


Jujung:

tend to agree with this view since the govts in India for 60 years have proven to be utterly incapable of improving public services. So, instead they can directly give the money to the needy who in turn can get what they want. The market will be eager to supply the goods to this new consumer group. Instead of the money rotting in swiss bank accounts of politicians/bureaucracy it can directly go to the poor.


janaalu dabbul theeskuni direct gaa saaray kottuki elthaar. entha kooli vaadainaaa rojuki vache kooli lo save cheskunte paiki vasthaaru. first thing they do is go directly to saaray kottu. I dont think direct money transfer is good. Yeah may be food coupons, cause you cant buy alcohol with those.
Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:05 pm:       


Arjun1234:

Unique ID project enta waraku wachindho? any updates on this?


last month anukunta pilot ga 2 states start chesthunaru ani chadiva

mundhu system lo marpu tevali, appudu ilanti bokku schemes allochinchachu subsidy yethasi
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:01 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

yevadiki badithe vadiki free money isthe, accountability yenti? already subsidy isthunaru, delhi lo anukunta instead of giving subsidy in ration, they are giving money, atleast that is appreciated rather than this




Unique ID project enta waraku wachindho? any updates on this?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:59 pm:       


Jujung:


yevadiki badithe vadiki free money isthe, accountability yenti? already subsidy isthunaru, delhi lo anukunta instead of giving subsidy in ration, they are giving money, atleast that is appreciated rather than this
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:58 pm:       


Jujung:



point bro... i guess appudu e middle men amyamya thagguthundemo
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:55 pm:       

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Swaminomics/entry/c ash-transfers-better-than-drought
Cash transfers are better than drought relief works, even as per free-market Swaminomics. Such direct transfer prevent leakages and unnecessary expenditure on govt bureaucracy and provides relief to distressed poor. (--compared to social plans like 100000cr nrega, indiscriminate loan waiver, etc)

I tend to agree with this view since the govts in India for 60 years have proven to be utterly incapable of improving public services. So, instead they can directly give the money to the needy who in turn can get what they want. The market will be eager to supply the goods to this new consumer group. Instead of the money rotting in swiss bank accounts of politicians/bureaucracy it can directly go to the poor.

As always, the main hurdle is identifying the truly needy and creating a viable system. I doubt tdp really thought through the realities except as a bait to gullible voters. A viable social security plan should have been proposed based on the individual's contributions and need. As far as I know, loksatta had a social security plan.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:37 pm:       


Ntr_rocks:

India pedda Boku country..



NF...chaal tappuka matladavu...neeku nachakaothe nachaledu anni cheppu kaani booku geeku anni pichi stmt's ivvaku

US vachi enni yrs avutundi...naaku telisi nuvvu inka OPT lu unnavu anukuntaa
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:36 pm:       


Telugubabu:

prasthitham congress govt lo middle man ki velthondi.


yee scheme seppandi sir plzzz, middleman yevaru thintunarooo kuda seppandi sir plzzz
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:35 pm:       


Ntr_rocks:

India pedda Boku country




thammudu nuvvu ye country lo puttav? ey country lo perigav?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:32 pm:       


Der_schuler:




cash transfer meeda naaku opinion ledu. manchido kaado naaku theliyadu. oka vishayam cheppali. ikkada US lo around $130 istharu food coupons kinda. grocery store lo kaavalsina food items konukovachu. CBN cheppe cash transfer kooda cash vouchers. middleman ni cut chesi direct ga ivvadam. prasthitham congress govt lo middle man ki velthondi. TV anedi jimmik. tamil nadu lo hit ayindi AP lo try cheddamanukunnadu. ilanti schemes US lo kooda vunnayi. anyway nenu socialism ni support cheyyanu. antha privitize cheyyali. aa maata nuvvu anu. ikkada DB lo neeku entha mandi support chestahro choosthanu. asalu ekkada govt involvement vundakoodadu except country security and internal law and order & legal system.
http://www.frac.org/html/federal_food_programs/programs/fsp. html
Through the electronic benefit transfer systems (EBT)
discuss chesthaniki raledu. bye bye
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:30 pm:       


Ntr_rocks:

India pedda Boku country.




bro,
I dont know in what way you meant, this is in bad taste. i think you stay in the US, and i am glad for you, but such statements are uncalled for.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:29 pm:       


Woodpecker:

jai jagan annav


yeppudu gajjipeek annai? reddy reddy ani na muddi yenkala thirigav firstlu, nee gajji parakasta ki cherindhi, koseyali doctor gariki seepi
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:28 pm:       


Ntr_rocks:

India pedda Boku country...



tammi .. neeku ledu anuko .. mee gang lo okkadu ante okkadu vachi ee statement ni enduku khandichaledu .. ? desam kante farty goppadayyinda?

Mods, personal abuse chesina .. caste abuse chesina thadaka choopinche meeru .. ee statement ki kurrod ki edaina "special sanmanam" cheyyandi ..
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:26 pm:       


Idle_yzag:


chiru ki eenupot podisi jai ysr, jai jagan annav

ysr leka jagan deggara saruk leka malla patching aa
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:24 pm:       



(Message edited by netra on February 10, 2010)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:21 pm:       


Kingaa_bongaa:

oka kantry Brazil, inkoti enti tamud?




bro..chala sarlu discuss chesaru already..

world bank website lo choodandi detalis...brazil okkate kaadu...inka chala latin american countries vunnai..

NTR rocks, nenu aa scheme mana state ki right or wrong gurinchi matladatam ledu...that's a different discussion altogether...

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Idle_yzag:


AP janalu pichi poo Lu ani CBN inko sari nirupiddam anukunnadu..

Kaani teliviga Ysr ki vote vesam ani janam anukunnadu..


Cut sette S nakindi... AP..
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:18 pm:       


Shantaram:


India pedda Boku country... Mana India lo implement chestam impossible.. Nuvvu cere countries tho polchi .. Aa countries paruvu teyyaka...
The secret of joy in work is contained in one word - excellence. To know how to do something well is to enjoy it!!!
 

Kingaa_bongaa
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:18 pm:       


Shantaram:

LOL..mari anni countries lo already enduku implement chesaaru? adi kooda world bank adhvaryam loo....


oka kantry Brazil, inkoti enti tamud?
Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
 

Shantaram
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Post Number: 302
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:16 pm:       


Der_schuler:

asalu ittanti scheme etta alochinchar...communism koralu vippina hungary lo kooda ittanti schemes eppudu patinchala...ofcrse bob garu.....new age Von mises ani...SVU lo...seppukuntar till date...kani adhi etta implement sedham anukunnad chandranna....eeda berkeley lo Jaffe ani oka toph kurrod unnad....nobel vasthad kurrod ki ingo 2-3 years time lo ani talk....aa kurrod kooda ittanti subsidy alosinsi undad...

AP pejalu entha bakras ani anukopothe ittanti scheme announce sese dammu vastundhi that too from some one who bowled tech wizz's off their seats..kiki




LOL..mari anni countries lo already enduku implement chesaaru? adi kooda world bank adhvaryam loo....
 

Idle_yzag
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Username: Idle_yzag

Post Number: 21089
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Posted From: 198.80.144.187

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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:14 pm:       


2cool:


chiru ni nammaru ani seppana pakkeru?yevaru yee party ki support ooo kuda telvad, counter ki ready aipothav, kikiki
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

Idle_yzag
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Post Number: 21088
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:13 pm:       


Ntr_rocks:

Adi telusu kokubda CBN meeda edupu start chesaaru


asalu aa alochana yendhuku vachindi adhi ani akkada cochening?
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

Ntr_rocks
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Username: Ntr_rocks

Post Number: 6963
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:12 pm:       


Idle_yzag:


Adi telusu kokubda CBN meeda edupu start chesaaru.. Adi goppa scheme aithe janaalu votes cede vaaru kada...ki ki ki
The secret of joy in work is contained in one word - excellence. To know how to do something well is to enjoy it!!!
 

2cool
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Post Number: 4186
Registered: 05-2009
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:10 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

andhuke kada prajalu nammaledhu :D




ooruko maseedu, 2 ekaraala maagani, 5 ekarala metta ani cheppina anniyya kante ekkuva nammaaru kiki

lolz ..
 

Idle_yzag
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:03 pm:       

andhuke kada prajalu nammaledhu :D
RahulGandhi/JP/Chiru
 

Der_schuler
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Post Number: 4100
Registered: 01-2009
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Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:00 pm:       

asalu ittanti scheme etta alochinchar...communism koralu vippina hungary lo kooda ittanti schemes eppudu patinchala...ofcrse bob garu.....new age Von mises ani...SVU lo...seppukuntar till date...kani adhi etta implement sedham anukunnad chandranna....eeda berkeley lo Jaffe ani oka toph kurrod unnad....nobel vasthad kurrod ki ingo 2-3 years time lo ani talk....aa kurrod kooda ittanti subsidy alosinsi undad...

AP pejalu entha bakras ani anukopothe ittanti scheme announce sese dammu vastundhi that too from some one who bowled tech wizz's off their seats..kiki

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