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Telugubabu Junior Artist Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 805 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 216.235.145.67 Rating: N/A |
i can understand your frustration. there are many incompetent people in this world. we have to deal with them. just get what you want from them and move on. enjoy what you do. we have to learn that skill. dealing with people is an art. when you get that power one day, go and fire your incompetent manager. its all about power and control. not your talent or skill set. naakantha english raadu. edo yes no alright ani nettukosatha. thappanipisthe kshaminchu. nee english poems rocks anthe.. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3916 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
andharu manchi points raise chesaru...good inputs...I will work on what I can change on my end and then see...if there can be a ray of hope | ||
Telugubabu Junior Artist Username: Telugubabu Post Number: 801 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.99.164.156 Rating: |
we follow agile development process.development in iterations. stressful for developers. but simple to follow. managers like it we take 3 parameters into consideration. time,scope and resources. time is fixed. scope and resources varies. if we think we can not complete the task on time , we settle for less scope or ask more resources. ofcourse agile doesn't work all projects. we are not into research. our project tasks are driven by customer needs and company goals, returns on corporate investment. agile works for us. der, i don't know what process you guys follow, whatever if your manager/scrum master is not ready to reduce the scope or increase resources or may be time , try to convince him/her. explain the problem. have some patience. if they don't listen to you, then you are the best person to decide what to do next. work extra hours or just leave that xxxxxxx job. I am not a manager. just a developer. i hate agile process. champutharu. em chestham rekadithe gaani dokkadadhu. buddiga chaduvukuni MS,MBA,Phd lu chesi vunte rechipoyevadni. kiki DLM. OT you rock man... nee common sense ki hats off.. donation batch BE ani ninnu DB lo edipinchevaru. andarikante job ni ekkuva enjoy chethav nuvvu. you KISS your job. keep it simple man. | ||
Chivuks Side Hero Username: Chivuks Post Number: 4473 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.103.236.87 Rating: N/A |
this is how i do it .. since i am experienced it works for me .. i will never let him handle me, simple ... To do that, - all the issues that i am looking in to, i handle them on my own ... - in the discussions with my boss, i tell him too many of the issues that he just gives me a free hand rather than taking a decision ... - i talk to him in pure technical slang, never resort to simplify things for him to understand ... - for all the meetings that i have, i attend on my own .. if my boss wants to come, i tell him that a senior architect is coming .. - for all the meetings that my boss attends, i prepare him the technical slides (this is somewhat painful) and then i dont own them ... if he wants to make any changes, dont get in to argument .. just enable tracking changes and let him do ... a few ... | ||
Reentry Junior Artist Username: Reentry Post Number: 778 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 65.198.163.148 Rating: N/A |
try to reduce ur ego and self centered ness and think from his perspective for a while.. things will be set the moment u realize that there is no such thing like incompetency.. you will be free of this emotional stress | ||
Raogaru Junior Artist Username: Raogaru Post Number: 383 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 174.54.116.237 Rating: N/A |
adi point, same nenu cheppedi idey.
there is no point in arguing unless your opinions are welcomed by the upper management. i have seen numerous cases where developer complaining abt tech lead to manager or arch complaining about vp arch to chief arch and eventually damage occurred to the developer/arch. i mentioned before...again doing it here. unless you become SOB, you can't complain on SOB. nannu involvecheyakandi sir | ||
Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 5000 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.51.3 Rating: N/A |
if you are good at something..be sly as fox about your goodness else do shoddy job and browse away your work hours.. as long as your performance is with in acceptable limits , you should be fine.Itla follow ayipothunna nenu ayithe..evverybody happy! | ||
Raogaru Junior Artist Username: Raogaru Post Number: 381 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 174.54.116.237 Rating: |
recently i architected 1.5M project involving 5 different applications. i was striving for robustness while upper management were focussed on "The Date". To balance that i had to sacrifice some of the features that are needed for extending the architecture/application. but i had to consider the deadline and budget limitations. at the end the product delivered but it is not that extendable and i made it clear and infact it is documented in the backlog. now they are going for another round of budget estimate for the second phase where they will implement what i envisioned along with some other new features. so it is how software industry works....you can't say that i want to deliver bug free and most robust system. you can't define your boundaries but you have to follow. nannu involvecheyakandi sir | ||
Raogaru Junior Artist Username: Raogaru Post Number: 380 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 174.54.116.237 Rating: |
Der tammud. mee manager correct review ye ichaad, even nenu kooda ilanti review ney ista...meeru yenta turum khan aiyna. unless i am delivering mission critical app where 10th decimal also causes big loss company, i would not worry about bugs. even i want to secure my job and so does every software industry. take microsoft. imagine instead of delivering windows 95 or even ms-dos, what would have happen if they tried windows7/xp at first? the product would not have been made to the market much and not much impact due to the big-bang release....and bill might be just another rich man. ofcourse it is not perfect example but things like this way. versioning (or releasing product with some bugs at first then keep fixing the bugs) is a way of selling and securing the jobs, be it a ceo or be it is a developer. so do not get bogged down into non-sensical stuff...know what your manager expecting. if he is fine with bugs but just want the product then deliver the way he likes it. you are working for them and they are not working for you. if you are ceo you can impose your culture on the company. but no ceo everlikes to deliver a product which is bug free...if so there won't be any sales or versions and market. just my 2c. nannu involvecheyakandi sir | ||
Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 171 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.90.42 Rating: N/A |
Someday every one becomes a manager, then what? Coming to incompetent managers, you should have one on one talks and try to win their trust, do not try to show ur manager in poor light in front of your team mates. dont try to be a 'Rancho'  | ||
Ntr_rocks Side Hero Username: Ntr_rocks Post Number: 6633 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 69.138.32.249 Rating: N/A |
Maa manager gaadu naato lunch ki vellinapude matladataadu... matladina project gurunchi matladadu... nenu lunch ki vellakapote....adi kuda vundadu... The secret of joy in work is contained in one word - excellence. To know how to do something well is to enjoy it!!! | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3888 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
I think it translates into 16 mins of work.....if plain reading...it typing..then 16 mins DB== 20 mins of work time... andhuke nenu...only specific days super active unta DB la...when I have to do some less intensive work like..documentation...testing...etc | ||
Kingaa_bongaa Side Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 6855 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.174.58.20 Rating: |
tamud 16 minus db time = actual work time entha? Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. | ||
Secondcup Junior Artist Username: Secondcup Post Number: 877 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.74.155.50 Rating: N/A |
ayana eppudo manager ayyadu mama, ide DB lo okasari choosinatlu gurthu. e OT confirm cheyyu  | ||
Oohlala Junior Artist Username: Oohlala Post Number: 92 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 171.70.247.72 Rating: N/A |
Der, I am very frank ani dulipesthe evaru ayina feel avutaru unless you have that great relationship with your manager, even then you cannot do that in a group setting. It is not always about being right kada, you need be conscious of their feelings too, you got to respect the other person irrespective of your personal opinion. You need to know when to push and when to go with the flow. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57482 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: N/A |
Nee lanti valla kosam best fit latest project methodology : Agile From Project backlog each developer will take his choice of module/component and he sets his own pace & standard for each : Sprint release google on it more lobby for it from ur next proj onwards... | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9322 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
idi baagane cheppav .. but I think .. nenu eppudu fail avutha estimate cheyyadam lo .. always .. pessimistic number chepta .. edo oka reason tho pettukunna buffer time kooda phut !!! how to give a realistic estimate? anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2117 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
 neeyenkamma manager gaani ayipoyaava recent gaa intha personal teesukuntunnav | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3887 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
This is an excellent point.....best post of this thread..OT idhi nuvvvu ela sesthav seppu...srs ga naaku raadhu ila cheppatam | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57481 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: N/A |
manager icchina time saripodhu finest product ivvadaniki ani DER tammudiki telisinappudu why did he accept such schedule ? atleast upfront DER should alert/hint the manager that this task will take x days to be fine, y days to be good, z days to deliver avg product....... then manager will decide how he wants it....em jeyyakunda naa manager ep naa manager ep ani mana cude lo manam koosuni tittukunte inthe feedback vasthundhi final ga | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3886 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
I plainly say I dont see how this scheme wil succeed...all we are doing is hypothesizing and some delusionist sketching with out sound proofs either historically or on the back of some mathematical basis... This is my standard response when I feel that people are hand waving | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57480 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: N/A |
manager icchina time saripodhu finest product ivvadaniki ani DER tammudiki telisinappudu why did he accept such schedule ? atleast upfront DER should alert/hint the manager that this task will take x days to be fine, y days to be good, z days to deliver avg product....... then manager will decide who he wants it....em jeyyakunda naa manager ep naa manager ep ani mana cude lo manam koosuni tittukunte inthe feedback vasthundhi final ga | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2116 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
dbs lo post esinattu gaani cheppadam ledu kadha  thokka afterall manager gaadivi nuvvu entha nee chaduvu entha ani dulipesi unte aadu maatram feel avvada , muddettukuni muggulu eyyaledu kadha | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2115 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
totally agreee | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2114 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
final gaa managers tho d lem gidaithe fact  | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3885 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
oka instance istha..there is classic problem oka dataset of 10 million (81) tuples ni ...ante 10mill*80 floats and chars unna data ni mine sesi.....we need to represent that data with 5000 81 tuples.....a compression ratio higher than the normal text compression schemes... daaniki aayana propose sesina solution..LETS ASSUME OUR DATA IS SENSITIVE TO 16 INDEPENDENT PARAMETERS AND LETS TRY TO GET STATISTICAL DISTRIBUTIONS OF THESE 16 parameters in the data set and then by some weighing...take combinatoric ensembles of these.... I mean are you kidding me.....THAT SOLUTION HAS SET ITSELF FOR FAILURE with out even starting on it....it is a classic 16th century trial and error method... WHY 16?? there (81,C,16) such possible functors.....I mean u dont need a bloody PhD to know that ...Any one with a Masters with some Applied analytic skills can see that...septhe kopam...vinadu | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 2507 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Perfection anedi eppudu relative sense lo untundi anukunta. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
Oohlala Junior Artist Username: Oohlala Post Number: 91 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 171.70.247.72 Rating: N/A |
Der, you will probably face that to some extent with any manager. It took me a while but I realized that there is always something you can learn, it may just may not be the skill you are looking for. They are in a management position for good reason, it could be networking, working relationships and just not how efficient you can write the code. As an IC (individual contributor), you are only responsible for your module. But as a manager he is accountable for the whole project, management only needs one throat to choke. We may not like and agree with their reviews and sometime even shrug them off that they are insecure but believe me, take it all in positively. It will help you. Based on the feedback he gave you, looks like he would like you to prioritize and provide some quick wins when schedules are tight rather than striving for a immaculate solution. | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2113 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
now i get it, unfortunately aa gap untadi most managers tho, either they dont get it or they do and plain ignore it for various reasons | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 2506 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
On point. Companies work on making money. Managers work for this cause. Oka product konni sarlu entha perfect gaa undi anna danikante entha fast gaa market loki vachindi annadi important. Engineers/Tech guys ki anni sarlu ee equations artham kakapovachu. I see this many times in our meetings. Academic research lo aithe its a different case. You can afford to be a perfectionist. Ikkada kooda limitations unnayi anukondi. Cheppindi thappu anipiste lite theesukondi. leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57479 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: N/A |
product elaa vachinaa naaku acceptable ani aayana manager em cheppaledhe.....schedule kanna mundhe chettha ga complete chesi isthe ippudu ichina -ve stmt nE reframe jesi inko -ve stmt ichevaadu feedback lo Quality best practice is to balance everything... | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9320 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
tappu cheppaana? cheppe unta .. saduvu obba ledu .. kooli pani sestunna .. nannu oggeyyandi !  anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 2168 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.90.235.198 Rating: N/A |
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4 | ||
Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 10678 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.56.240 Rating: N/A |
Satti kaka.... independent consulting loo bonus concept yetluntadi? CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2112 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
you arent being unfair neither is your boss, you either need to compromise or just plain F it | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9319 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
research based exam ayyi .. most number of solutions kanukkovadam lanti criteria aithe pass cheyyandi .. criteria meet avvakapothe fail cheyyaali .. anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3884 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Le anna....I am good...infact I like criticism but backed by a rationale....the point is to chart priorities...and I think I am being given very hazy objectives to be met...there seems to be an expectation that we build sound models but at the same time he seems unaware of the effort that goes into building such robust models.... I work 16 hrs a day on an avg.....along with 2 people who work for/with me....and if he says that we are being hard pressed for time, I need more info anthe anukuntunna | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2111 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
aayana cheppindatlonu point undi le  thinnama thongunnama thellarindaa type lo pani aipothe chaalu adi ela vacchina dont care type attitude gurinchi chepthunadu | ||
Netsaint Junior Artist Username: Netsaint Post Number: 197 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 15.195.201.91 Rating: N/A |
venakatiki okadu, exam paper lo motham solve cheyyakunda 1 problem ki 10-15 ways methods lo solve cheji icchevadanta. Pass jeyyamantava, fail kotta mantaava jeppu | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3883 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Adhi ippudu teeraina maata annav...this might be true and am trying to figure a way around.....worst case....job vadhili paresthe...but I need to seek solution to problem first and see if one of us is being unfair | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 2110 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
if you are in it for the money you got to bear it no other option, or else get out and get into academia, that seems your thing anyway free advice nacchakapothe ignore  | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9318 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
cool .. big deal ! anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57478 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: |
ee thread lo DER cheppindhi anthaa sadivithe naaki itta ardham ayyindhi : DER's manager DER ki weekend lopu bomma giyyaraa ani design isthaadu monday poddhunne ! DER emo bomma masthu ga ravali ani friday afternoon daaka pencil ni baaga chekkutthu(sharpen jesthu ) untaadu.... obvious ga manager's comment :
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Netsaint Junior Artist Username: Netsaint Post Number: 196 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 15.195.201.91 Rating: |
LOLLL. neetho inka disco anavasaram. CIVIL services ki competetion takkuva anta. alage CA ki... kiiik | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9317 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: |
techesaava agenda !!! ippude post chesaa .. person-centric ga kakunda .. post centric ga cheyyamanu .. you never disappoint !  anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Venkateswarlu Junior Artist Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 638 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
2 times base aa.. ikkada bonus kaadu kadaa.. base oste saalu anukuntunnaa..  In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3882 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
nenu IT kaadhu | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3881 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
MBA chesi top positions velle valla OT...MBA lo enni streams unnayi chatukkuna seppu???? nee dhed dimaak.....MBA strategy chesthar kondhar...ala T_I annai...they pursue a career in pure management of firm wide view of markets etc....vallu asalu PhD meedha eppudu rely avvar aa field different... ne seppe MBA's.....are pure finance MBA's who are extremely shallow in their math skills and try to manage Math and physics PhD's.... OT maa companylo......desi MBA managers lo 85% IIT ne...inga kulluko | ||
Netsaint Junior Artist Username: Netsaint Post Number: 195 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 15.195.201.91 Rating: N/A |
IT field lo kavalsindhi mostly team work. nenu ittage sestha podisestha anthe kattam | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9316 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: |
I do not thnk so .. but then that my personal opinion .. need not be true .. naa drustilo .. IIT is the toughest nut to crack ! remember .. most people sit for an IIT at 15-16-17 unlike Civils or CA .. where the age goes up considerably .. so does the mental ability and then I "guess" the competition is not as much as IIT ! but that does not mean I do not respect people from services or CAs .. ! anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Ford Comedian Username: Ford Post Number: 1087 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 24.34.24.3 Rating: |
according to Der. IIT, IIM, MIT and yale ians only eligible to be managers or some leader. Migitha vallu bathakadaaniki kuda paniki raaru Papayya | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3880 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Football kadhu anna...I am very stghtfwd...in my resentment..when I feel that he is just throwing words around, I ask him to explain it clearly on the black board and write an analytic equation embodying his thought or atleast a flow chart... If I think it won't work I just say that this scheme does merit lot of digging around and show him apparent flaws....Being honest in our profession is very important anukuntunna nenu | ||
Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 10677 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.56.240 Rating: N/A |
 CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
Netsaint Junior Artist Username: Netsaint Post Number: 194 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 15.195.201.91 Rating: N/A |
babu iitians ni takkuva em chesadu. infact there r lot more too tough than iit. OKA IAS, OKA CA ivi inkaa chala tough iit kante. | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57477 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: |
Forbes 100 companies lo high ranks lo vunna MBAs ante low opinion mana manager incompetent non-sastreeya sangeetam lo cleebrities ep gallu Oscar jury EP gallu Oscar vachina vallu EP gallu Grammy vachina vallu EPs Reservations lo chaduvukune ep gallu Der_Schuler gaari drushtilo aayana chadivina IIT,aayana puttina vargam tappa andaru EP le nemo | ||
Arjun1234 Side Hero Username: Arjun1234 Post Number: 2277 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.6.29.85 Rating: N/A |
evaro MBA chesinathanu untadu... Winners never cheat... even in difficult times. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3878 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Nee kaada ki tuition ki vastharle.....nenu definite ga vasthanu...nee erri enkanna....Wall street gurinsi neeki eti telvad...septha inuko...WS lo Quants ki MBA's ki love hate relationship....infact konni banks lo Quants unte MBA's ni hire cheyyaru aa team lo....vice versa....they have completely different operating styles...... | ||
Trueleader Comedian Username: Trueleader Post Number: 1576 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 216.241.170.12 Rating: N/A |
fight with the problem rather than skipping Mallik......If you are really correct.......you can always prove him that he is wrong........remember manager also reports to his manager | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9314 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
congrats annai .. happy for you anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9313 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
babai .. ee thread ki person-centric ga kakunda .. post-centric ga answer ivvaleva? though I do not share the same idea of Der as MBAs not better and all .. nuvvu cheppina answer enti? IITians ni takkuva chesaavu .. how different is your opinion from his .. aalochinchaava? ledu .. just Der opinion ki diametrically opposite unte chaalu ani post chesesaav .. aayanevaro .. 5 stars vesesi chankalu guddesukunnadu ! LOL .. funny people .. anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3877 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: |
kiki...2 times base | ||
Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 10676 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.56.240 Rating: N/A |
Bhiku bhai...nuvvu yentha manager ayithee maatram...saati developers ni pellala maadirigaa soodatam anyaayam! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
Venkateswarlu Junior Artist Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 637 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
Most of them are IIT's anukuntunnaa.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3876 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
as an instance today he wanted me to build a naive VBA text read...for some legacy code.....The text file size was about 700MB and at a point where most of the traditional windows API ( non C# based) will tend to break down...The code mindlessly pre allocated space by reading in the whole text file in one go..... As opposed to that one can use VBA pointers to tie to file to memory and then work on it...Even if not efficient like perl in tieing files, it enables to scale upwards easily. He just commented well, you should have used excel 2007 which has larger memory and stored everything inside excel...and then shugged through grid shredder to do the stuff.. I would baulk at such an idea even I were an UG student | ||
Trueleader Comedian Username: Trueleader Post Number: 1575 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 216.241.170.12 Rating: N/A |
OT nee logic asala naku ami ardhamu kaledhu.....  | ||
Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 10675 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.56.240 Rating: N/A |
OT bhayya...iga nee pani out iyyala...Der annai moodoo kannu terusthaadu! CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57476 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: |
haha MBAs ni kuda decide jesesaava ?  MBAs from reputed institutes are lot better than IITians IITians ki creativity takkuva... | ||
Arjun1234 Side Hero Username: Arjun1234 Post Number: 2276 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 24.6.29.85 Rating: N/A |
eberybare same problem appa Winners never cheat... even in difficult times. | ||
Kamal Side Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 9311 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 130.36.62.141 Rating: N/A |
 anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo - aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo .. | ||
Trueleader Comedian Username: Trueleader Post Number: 1574 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 216.241.170.12 Rating: N/A |
Managers are very important for your professional life. If you got good manager for you.....you are very very lucky Especially when i joined as a fresher after completing my engineering......My Manager encouraged me a lot A great manager is a man who isn't worried about his own career but rather the careers of those who work for him. | ||
Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 10674 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.56.240 Rating: N/A |
/I know that he doesn't like me./ Der annai...so adhi anna maata assalu sangathi... kompadessi vaadini nuvvu football aadaavaa yeppudainaa? lekapoothe mee customers mundu baagaa maatlaadi vadini over shadow chesaavaa? yenduku nuvvantee antha kacchi vaadiki? BTW...vaadu desi baba naa? CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
Kingaa_bongaa Side Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa Post Number: 6854 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.174.58.20 Rating: N/A |
naaku emanipisthundante, he knows you are katthi, and one day will surpass him in position and talent. ninnu maanasikanga debba theeddaam anukuntunnaad. lite theesko. Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu. | ||
Telugu_tammudu Junior Artist Username: Telugu_tammudu Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 12.42.121.32 Rating: N/A |
Your manager may be feeling insecure. Confident people don't tend to put someone down. Good managers understand different work styles and delegate and involve right people at the right time to complete the project. | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 12940 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
It depends on how serious is the bug. if it can be easily fixed during testing phase, dev deadline meet avvadaniki parledu anacchu...explicitly when u have a dev cycle and a test cycle. final product out gurunchi kaadu nenu cheppedi | ||
Chiru_fan Hero Username: Chiru_fan Post Number: 10673 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 71.248.56.240 Rating: N/A |
/Year end review ichadu ivala and he cites: " His attention to fine detail and obsession to put forth the most elegant product out, often times, undermines our ability to be fast paced" / Der annai, why are you trying to build a Benz when your manger wants a KIA? CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER | ||
Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 10736 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
der tammi, nuvvu kooda developer ye naa | ||
Venkateswarlu Junior Artist Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 636 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
Bonus entha nokkaaventi..  In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3875 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Yeah that is what I am breaking my head upon. we dont have a proper 360 in our place....my collegues use my work day in and day out and always send me thank you notes on how efficient the process now is as opposed to previous models. He on the other hand pushes me to be naive and to run rough shod over the idioms of sound model building. I understand his handicap in understanding rigor as he is an MBA and I have very low opinions on most MBA's that I have seen. The oft repeating chest thumping is not a common place trait amongst academic circles | ||
Venkateswarlu Junior Artist Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 635 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
Evaru aa goppa manageru.. Code with bugs acceptability untadaa ekkannainaa.. vaammov.. news to me.. Managers nee to meet their deadlines doesnt mean they want the product defective.. speed with accuracy important.. atleast where I work.. patients lives dependent on the way we work.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 12939 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
there are certain issues that can be lived with and mgrs don't care if u r trying to fix those issues | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57474 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: N/A |
trainee ki programmer ep laga kanipistadu... programmer ki technical architect ep laga kanipisthadu.. architect ki PM ep laga kanipistaadu pm ki director... director ki cxx level vaallu ep llaga kanipistharu real ga ep panulu mana kanna paina vunde vallu cheyyaru ani kaadhu...manam jesinatte appudappudu mana paina vaadu jesthaadu geetaa saaramsam samaptham..... | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3874 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
Might be... I had that issue first up....After a few weeks, he called me in and said: " You are extremely pithe and terse to the extent that you end up packing so much information in 3 or 4 lines" sare kadha ani I started being very elaborate and now a days he exclaims that I am too florid with my expression these days.... I know that he doesn't like me..but he at times seems hell bent on picking trivial reasons to raise issues that are non existent | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 12938 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: N/A |
Managers often tend to be in this way. they don't mind code with bugs to be out, but want their deadlines to be met. thats the nature of their job.they don't want to goldplate either | ||
Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 5429 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.52 Rating: N/A |
manager ki developer majha relation bharya bharthala sambandham ..dont mistake me..anta understanding ga undali anamta | ||
Venkateswarlu Junior Artist Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 634 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
Ante neat gaa, neeki slow annadaaa? In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Onlytruth Legend Username: Onlytruth Post Number: 57472 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 173.62.3.86 Rating: N/A |
prati employee tana painaa vaadi gurinchi ilaage anukuntaadu.... kaani reality veru ! vaadu competent(atleast in one strongest area) kakapothe akkada undadu | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3873 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
My rprev manager and the current one are stark examples in this cadre. They have no idea of what it takes to write good code. they accept unreasonable deadlines and when the deadline is not met, they claim that the team is loosing focus by not prioritising. The point of contention is that one can build bad code that will address the status quo but one has to ask the question: "Is this process regenerative?? If so what is the optimal approach to solve this problem now than to blow ones head every time we encounter an issue" Its a matter of taste, I guess. Some one who is very academic and rigor oriented finds it extremely hard in corporate settings. I am having tough times to choose between elegance, rigor and utility. Year end review ichadu ivala and he cites: " His attention to fine detail and obsession to put forth the most elegant product out, often times, undermines our ability to be fast paced" I was extremely hurt today | ||
Maverick Hero Username: Maverick Post Number: 12937 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 192.146.101.24 Rating: |
May be you are talking to him in this same verbose way. nee question ki inta explanation akkarledu anukunta | ||
Bhikhu Side Hero Username: Bhikhu Post Number: 5428 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 148.129.71.52 Rating: N/A |
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111 Side Hero Username: 111 Post Number: 4459 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 198.185.18.207 Rating: N/A |
desi managers tho kastam elanti issues lo..chepthe vinaru , cheppakapothe productive kaadhu antaru..... even senior manager ki velli cheppinna manake bokka laaga untundhi.. thats why we have 360 degree feedback ..we have to take feedback from your manager , peers and team members..it will go into records..so you can give feed back there.. | ||
Venkateswarlu Junior Artist Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 633 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 162.116.29.69 Rating: N/A |
I will change my dept or job.. Edaval tho panjeyyalem.. shaanaa kashtam.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
Cocanada Moderator Username: Cocanada Post Number: 16877 Registered: 01-2008 Rating: N/A |
good question. naadi kuda same question. Naaku Namo Venkatesa 2nd half nachindi - Idly | ||
Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 3872 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 148.159.160.51 Rating: N/A |
When you have to deal with some one who just is not intellectually capable to guide you on problems that need analytic eye and proffers methods that are plain naive in their extant...how do you handle them and the situations that they often times spawn trying to thrust the censure on to the team for not been able to tackle a problem at hand....most of them tend to point out that so and so team member is not productive while the whole problem is that the approach was riven with ambiguity from the outset |
