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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 09:22 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
Also, nannu enti liberals lo kalipesavu, i am no liberal by any means.

sorry .. mimmalni kalapaledu .. bcos .. as u urself said .. we are all a mixture of liberals and conservatives .. I agree .. no questions on that ..

kakapothe meeru raise chesina questions .. naa branding of liberals batch ki saripoyindi .. so .. ee post lo liberals ani vaallani address chesaane kaani mimmalni kaadu ..

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 08:29 pm:

Cocanada:
Ofcourse it matters. unless you think it was important for Gandhi to remain Mahatma to save his image at the cost of the nation

brother,
i still wonder how it matters whether i feel he succeeded or not. whether he succeeded or not, i will leave it to your descretion.

Whether Gandhi failed or succeeded, and whatever that definition of success is, it only matters what he stood for. he became leader based on his beliefs, he got killed based on the same belief.

"Father of the nation" is a political title to Gandhi, we are at liberty to either agree with it or not.

the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 08:23 pm:

Kamal:
I think .. we are on the same page .. but gandhi vishayam lo maarchali ani evaru annaru? all we are asking is .. Muslims have hurt Hindus and this land very badly .. over centuries .. do not give them that extra space again .. we are fighting for independence .. not for mughal rule .. hope you got it now !!! secularism ante gandhi cheyincha appeasement aa? ante Gandhi ni kanisam "Sigguledu" ani kooda anakoodada? naaku aayanemi god kaadu .. he is a good man with his own faults .. aa vishayam lo tidithe kooda tappena? I do not know why .. liberals imposing constraints ento ! chitram !

Kamal bro,
my response was for baba gari statement that kamal did not judge Gandhi ani anna dhaniki. nuvu siggu ledhu ani anna, inka pedha bhoothulu vadina i dont mind, and i dont think it is wrong.

Also, nannu enti liberals lo kalipesavu, i am no liberal by any means.

moghulu rule, independence, partition aa topics malli matladudhaamu.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 08:19 pm:

emi jaruguthundhi ikkadaa? maa godse ni evaru emannaaru?

Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 08:16 pm:

Gandhi should have lead the nation after the independence by assuming either prime minister role or even powerful role than that.. but instead he choose to stay away from politics but his day to day activities were hurting the Indian rulers more than Pakistan..

several of his actions were irresponsible. When he had no role to play he tried to meddle..

Unfortunately because of Godse's foolish thing he became a martyr and his action can not be debated for ever ..

arundhathi heroine centric movie....story is based on her...treatment elevated her........
Mayabazar is a tatha centric movie story is based on tatha

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:53 pm:

endivayya inka ragultoone undi gaa kiki

arundhathi heroine centric movie....story is based on her...treatment elevated her........
Mayabazar is a tatha centric movie story is based on tatha

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:42 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
but amazing point enti ante, conservatives general ga existing belief ni endhuku marchatam antaaru, kaani gandhi vishayam vachesariki marchaali antaaru.. endukani antaaru..

I think .. we are on the same page .. but gandhi vishayam lo maarchali ani evaru annaru? all we are asking is .. Muslims have hurt Hindus and this land very badly .. over centuries .. do not give them that extra space again .. we are fighting for independence .. not for mughal rule .. hope you got it now !!! secularism ante gandhi cheyincha appeasement aa? ante Gandhi ni kanisam "Sigguledu" ani kooda anakoodada? naaku aayanemi god kaadu .. he is a good man with his own faults .. aa vishayam lo tidithe kooda tappena? I do not know why .. liberals imposing constraints ento ! chitram !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:42 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
endukani antaaru..

May be because they put the country ahead of individuals emo?
may be they think minority are not more equal than majority ani emo?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:39 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
Did he succeed?
Does it matter?

Ofcourse it matters. unless you think it was important for Gandhi to remain Mahatma to save his image at the cost of the nation

DB lo Pavala Role == TDP lo NKR role

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:37 pm:

Telugu_times:
I did not justify sumping Gandhi
. Infact, Gandhi's actions in his last years, naaku naccha ledhu anthey

And because godse committed murder, you can not say his ideology or vision was wrong

if godse fought with gandhi in a peaceful manner, definitely he would have had more credibility

i dont know his life journey completely to comment

DB lo Pavala Role == TDP lo NKR role

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:36 pm:

Telugu_times:
I did not justify sumping Gandhi. Infact, Gandhi's actions in his last years, naaku naccha ledhu anthey. Just my opinon. I may be totally wrong. Anthegaani, either i should like him or dislike him antay, disco waste.
DB annaaka, we have different views. Infact, ikkada kondharu pakistan fans kooda untaaru, nothing wrong in it.
Partha saradhi did not justified. I think kamal did not justified it either. Migathaa vaalla gurinchi thelvadh, as I did not read all posts.

baba garu,
meeru annadhi correct, but kamal bro konchem excite ayyi, siggu ledhu manishiki ani annadu gandhi ni.. ok heat of the argument anukundhaamu... but amazing point enti ante, conservatives general ga existing belief ni endhuku marchatam antaaru, kaani gandhi vishayam vachesariki marchaali antaaru.. endukani antaaru..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:35 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
and eventually it is tiring to argue the same things again and again, from scratch

That explains the satires :-)

But I agree - anduke detailed responses ivvatam manesa to a large extent :-)

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:34 pm:

Cocanada:
Did he succeed?

Does it matter?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:33 pm:

Indiarocks:

I did not justify sumping Gandhi. Infact, Gandhi's actions in his last years, naaku naccha ledhu anthey. Just my opinon. I may be totally wrong. Anthegaani, either i should like him or dislike him antay, disco waste.
DB annaaka, we have different views. Infact, ikkada kondharu pakistan fans kooda untaaru, nothing wrong in it.
Partha saradhi did not justified. I think kamal did not justified it either. Migathaa vaalla gurinchi thelvadh, as I did not read all posts.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:32 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
He was a man who believed that he can change his enemy with peace

Did he succeed?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:27 pm:

Cocanada:

its not about 'can'?
its about 'should'

Why should you donate someone to build weapons against you?

That is the difference between how we think and how Gandhi envisioned. He was a man who believed that he can change his enemy with peace, with proactive steps towards good will,even if it means sacrificing our assets. it might appear stupid to most of us, but that is something he believed in.

He believed that if his enemy wants to kill him, he will make it easier for them to kill him, but he would not budge from the path he has taken. what a stupid he must be.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:20 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
why cant you? if there is can you, there is always a chance for cant you.

its not about 'can'?
its about 'should'

Why should you donate someone to build weapons against you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:19 pm:

Anand_n:
Yep - Money lo dialog gurtu vastadi - same card, names different - Same arguments , dbers different

yes, and eventually it is tiring to argue the same things again and again, from scratch.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:18 pm:

Cocanada:
Once it is decided that an antagonistic state is being formed, how can you still treat them as equals?

why cant you? if there is can you, there is always a chance for cant you.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:15 pm:

why do we leash our pets and not our kids?

you can not apply the same principles of sacrifice and unselfishness to outsiders.

Once it is decided that an antagonistic state is being formed, how can you still treat them as equals?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:14 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
Sometimes i feel these threads are a dejavu,

Yep - Money lo dialog gurtu vastadi - same card, names different - Same arguments , dbers different

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:02 pm:

Indiarocks:
If one person imposes his ideology on others, it is the mistake of others too, who let it happen. What do you say?

Totally agree :-)

You cannot have it both ways - either he was an extraordinary leader and politician who could make even strong leaders like Patel do what he proposed or the rest of the leaders were people who had no conviction,strength or following of their own to stand up to him even if they thought his actions were wrong for the country...

Either way its a collective accountability :-)

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 07:01 pm:

Anand_n:
LOL :-) Ide DB lo/maybe IBDB - I have debated from the other side - on the negatives of Gandhi's actions...

There are many factors that cause a big change to happen ... and Gandhi was not a Superman who made it happen single handedly...but he was pivotal.

What I objected to in this thread is the vilification of an extraordinary leader and the deification of an assassin...

He some decisions that I do not like - but then I do not like Rama's decisions either:-) You despise one set and like another - different perspectives :-)

Like someone said , if Bose had succeeded , we may have been in a worse shape today...so many ifs and buts

Sometimes i feel these threads are a dejavu, there have been umpteen number of discussions on the same matter.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:49 pm:

Anand_n:
What I objected to in this thread is the vilification of an extraordinary leader and the deification of an assassin...

I do not think .. anybody did that .. all along I said .. Gandhi was a good guy with some issues towards Hindus .. more so in his last years .. same way .. no body condoned Godse .. all we said is .. he had to act against Gandhi .. but how .. he chose .. physical elimination to immediately put a check on his discrimination .. his aim was to stop the appeasement .. he was partially successful ! I rest my case !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:45 pm:

Anand_n:
Gandhi was not a Superman who made it happen single handedly...but he was pivotal

Everybody on the panel is equally responsible for the outcome of a meeting, whether if it is Nehru being chosen as the PM, or partition, or what ever. If one person imposes his ideology on others, it is the mistake of others too, who let it happen. What do you say?

leader [lee-der] -noun : A person who can publicize himself in the media, and is very successful at it.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:39 pm:

Kamal:
you put yourself in the shoes of an English head of 1946-47 and tell me how do you handle such a unique situation? (like managing a huge India with injured resources in UK)

LOL

Ide DB lo/maybe IBDB - I have debated from the other side - on the negatives of Gandhi's actions...

There are many factors that cause a big change to happen ... and Gandhi was not a Superman who made it happen single handedly...but he was pivotal.

What I objected to in this thread is the vilification of an extraordinary leader and the deification of an assassin...

He some decisions that I do not like - but then I do not like Rama's decisions either :-)

You despise one set and like another - different perspectives :-)

Like someone said , if Bose had succeeded , we may have been in a worse shape today...so many ifs and buts :-)

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:36 pm:

Kamal:
he had to take up the gun when the whole nation was looking for a way to shut up Gandhi

No comments. Em icon vesina saripodu.

Telugu_times:
Gatla kudharav
either you should like him
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nuv first vote congress/tdp/bjp ki vesthey.... life long congress/tdp/bjp kay veyyaali

Idi kooda add cheyandi. You can like him, or not. If you don't like him it is justified that he is killed. Physically ending somebody is the only way to win over somebody's ideology.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:30 pm:

Cocanada:
nenu kummio lunch

nenu poddunna work chesi 2 hours .. madhya lo 1 hour lunch faluda chesi .. ikkada posts vesi .. malli 2 hours taravata posting sesaa ! cut sesthe .. work ayyindi .. lunch cut ayyindi ! :-(

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:28 pm:

Kamal:
lunch tyaagam chesi .. Gandhi
Godse disco llo irukkokoodadu !!!

nenu kummio lunch

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:07 pm:

Rasputin:
Inthakee emi decide chesaaru, almost 350 posts paddaayi

lunch tyaagam chesi .. Gandhi Godse disco llo irukkokoodadu !!!

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:55 pm:

Ishan:
Gandhi was not as great as rightists think, and was not as bad as leftists think...adannamaata.

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:49 pm:

Rasputin:
Inthakee emi decide chesaaru

Gandhi was not as great as rightists think, and was not as bad as leftists think...adannamaata.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:34 pm:

Kamal:

Light theesko brother.
Parthasaradhi thammudannaya baaga posts vesaadu eee roju. My position is same as his position.
rest heads or tails

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:30 pm:

Gandhiguevara:

Nation was looking for a way naa??? vammooo...nuvvu samanyudivi kaadu

there are no two ways about it annai .. last stages of life .. he simply left Nationalism to the wind and started supporting Muslims like there is no tomorrow .. nuvvu kaadu anna .. avunu anna .. adi fact .. and avi small mistakes kaadu .. aa konni mistakes jaraganichinanduke .. inka anubhavistunnamu daridram ni ..

Telugu_times:
either you should like him
or
not
nuv first vote congress/tdp/bjp ki vesthey.... life long congress/tdp/bjp kay veyyaali

ade kada baba .. ee balavantam abhipraayala ruddadam ento naaku ardam kaadu .. Gandhi aa muslim licking tappu antaru .. kaani daaniki kopam vachina vadu react avvakoodadu antaru .. malli emanna ante Advani ni teesukocharu disco lo ki .. Advani .. Gandhi oke league ani annama .. edo brownie points kosam taapatrayam !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:28 pm:

Onlytruth:
coconada :

http://eenadu.net/breakhtml.asp?qry=break50

GFCL aaa?

NFCL aaa?

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:28 pm:

TT,

Ikkada Dems and Reps laaga antaara? Rest mana Red states politics....

Getafix: I bet Arjun kuda edo krishnudu tho unna dosti valla mohamatam tho kudina bhayam valla ochina gouravam tho Gita saaram artham ayyndi ani thala oopi untad kani nijanga artham ayyi unadadhu.. hehe

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:26 pm:

Kamal:
he had to take up the gun when the whole nation was looking for a way to shut up Gandhi

Nation was looking for a way naa??? vammooo...nuvvu samanyudivi kaadu

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:25 pm:

Kamal:

Gatla kudharav
either you should like him
or
not
nuv first vote congress/tdp/bjp ki vesthey.... life long congress/tdp/bjp kay veyyaali

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:23 pm:

Gandhiguevara:
Gadsey ni gelipinchadu

enduku leni maatalu cheptaav .. Godse ni nenu potugaadu .. Mahatmudu analedu .. he simply knew what he was doing .. he had to take up the gun when the whole nation was looking for a way to shut up Gandhi .. he took it upon himself ..

ofcourse .. Gandhi ni poojinche vaallaki ee maatalu kastam ga undachu .. but naa varaku naaku avi truth .. I am pretty clear about these ..

that does not diminish my respect for Gandhi in other aspects .. I look upto Gandhi for some qualities in him .. He knew what it takes to reach out to every other Indian when there was no media penetration like today .. he was great orator (not withstanding what he communicated) .. he could was effective in making people believe in his words till a point .. I look upto him on those issues .. and some issues on theology .. but ala ani tappulani matram oppulu ga oppukolenu !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:18 pm:

Kamal:
ippudu meeru cheppandi .. are you not "assuming" complicity of the right wing unduly and untruthfully .. just because Godse believed in policies of the right wingers???? who is true and who is not???

nope, i am not assuming anything here. i dont need to assume, what Godse's or Gandhi's acts were based on. If Godse embraced right wing ideologies,and his ideologies dictated him to perform the act, good for him and his ideology, he achieved what he wanted. It does not bother me if someone calls him a hero or zero. It does not bother me if someone calls Gandhi a self indulged, selfish snob or a person who fought for peace.

I am for all kinds of arguments against every held belief(which i am sure you are against), it is just that i am against vitriolic arguments based on perceptions that are incomplete.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:18 pm:

//Inthakee emi decide chesaaru, almost 350 posts paddaayi//

Rasp, pakka thread lo ISKON vs Mother Teresa ippuday antukuntundhee...adi follow ayipoo...ikkada matter stand still, 2 months lo same topic same posts malla vastaai....

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:17 pm:

Rasputin:
Inthakee emi decide chesaaru

Kamal tammudu Gandhism ni kirathamgaa hathamaarchi, Gadsey ni gelipinchadu

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:16 pm:

Inthakee emi decide chesaaru, almost 350 posts paddaayi

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:15 pm:

Ishan:
nee spirit ki naa abhinandanalu ani daanartham...no satires...

thank you .. :-)

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:14 pm:

Kamal:

annai .. tappu matladutunnana? direct ga cheppeyandi .. no need for sattires .. disco .. disco ne .. relation relation ee .. nenu edi manasulo ettukonu !

nee spirit ki naa abhinandanalu ani daanartham...no satires...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:11 pm:

Ishan:
Nuvvu thaggaku...cheelchi chendaadu...ummmmm...come on I say.

annai .. tappu matladutunnana? direct ga cheppeyandi .. no need for sattires .. disco .. disco ne .. relation relation ee .. nenu edi manasulo ettukonu !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:10 pm:

Gandhiguevara:
tammud, Gandhi naaku istam kabatti nuvvu follow avvali ani nenu cheppatledu...nee opinions neeku vuntay...
Kaani Gandhi ni sampudu correct...Gadsey is a patriot antene koncham ibbandigaa vundi...
Inka nee argument kosam churchill lanti lafangi gallu vagina vagudu use chestunnav ani...anthe...gandhi policies meeda nee opinion nuvvu cheppukovachu tappu ledu

annai .. simple ga cheppana? these things are so mixed that you cannot look them in isolation .. Nehru kurrod .. naa desaniki army akkarledu anna adi Gandhi-ism follow ayinandi valla puttina idea ne .. kurrod thought peace can conquer anything and everything .. no .. world does not work that way .. we have great misconceptions about how our independence simultaneously happened with the world war .. there was no Gandhi in Sri Lanka and even Sri Lanka was a cash cow .. still Britain could not hold onto it later than 1948 .. thats because .. Brit lost huge strengths in a two sided war .. and they did what os logical .. got rid of a trouble some India (politically) .. because anything other than that was effecting their WW-2 negotiations in UN .. everything is connected .. ledu .. maa Gandhi thatha kasta padithene freedom vachindi .. innallu memu chesukunna publicity continue chestaamu ante fine .. cheyyandi .. Einstein had a point while saying that future generations will not believe that a man like Gandhi walked on earth .. that is because he saw what was coming !!! that statement had both positve and negative connotations

Anand_n:

LOL - manavallu kuda chala enquiry commission reports publish chestu untaru kada - meeru avi anni nammutara ?

how about USA, France etc .. whose state depts release their opinions on why such incidents took place? I mean .. come on .. if you are ridiculing UK .. fine .. atleast what are the reports from neutral parties saying .. is it simply Gandhi melting the hearts of the Brits or . .is it because Hitler damaged UK so brutally in the war? meeru Proj manager kada .. you put yourself in the shoes of an English head of 1946-47 and tell me how do you handle such a unique situation? (like managing a huge India with injured resources in UK)

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aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:07 pm:

Kamal:

Nuvvu thaggaku...cheelchi chendaadu...ummmmm...come on I say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeGK88_5T4

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:05 pm:

Anand_n:
meeru avi anni nammutara

if those reports are against secularists...yes

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:04 pm:

coconada :

http://eenadu.net/breakhtml.asp?qry=break50

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:59 pm:

Kamal:
Britian lo commission esaaru .. enduku poyindi ani .. kanisam aa report ni aina nammutaava ..

LOL - manavallu kuda chala enquiry commission reports publish chestu untaru kada - meeru avi anni nammutara ? :-)

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:58 pm:

Kamal:
leda as usual gandhi devudi naamam japam chestoo .. maa lantolla kullabodustava?

tammud, Gandhi naaku istam kabatti nuvvu follow avvali ani nenu cheppatledu...nee opinions neeku vuntay...
Kaani Gandhi ni sampudu correct...Gadsey is a patriot antene koncham ibbandigaa vundi...
Inka nee argument kosam churchill lanti lafangi gallu vagina vagudu use chestunnav ani...anthe...gandhi policies meeda nee opinion nuvvu cheppukovachu tappu ledu

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:54 pm:

Gandhiguevara:

avanni maak telvad...gandhi ki against gaa emi cheppadu annade maa gaavale

annai .. naakemi telvadu correcte .. antha gandhi goriki .. aayana pollowers meeke telusu .. meeru saana great anna !!!

surchill gaadu enta lucha lafangi aina .. India ane country ni loose ainanduku .. Britian lo commission esaaru .. enduku poyindi ani .. kanisam aa report ni aina nammutaava .. leda as usual gandhi devudi naamam japam chestoo .. maa lantolla kullabodustava?

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:47 pm:

all Gandhi haters/Hinduism lovers here - one request to you folks. please read his 'my exp with truth' end to end and tell me if there ever was a greater practitioner of the Hindu faith in modern history. all of your mascots in Lk Advani, ABV, RSS demagogues will fall flat when compared to Gandhi's Hindu practice.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:39 pm:

and one more thing.. if Gandhi was PC then he wouldnt have said palestine belongs to arabs and jews should make the country they are born as their homeland in harijan in 30s.. thats the time he was getting lot of recognition internationally..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:37 pm:

Bushu:
if he was that PC, he would have never said in his book how he was trying to check his abstinence with a bunch of young girls. or how he treated his wife. and mind you, he wrote all those shattering statements during the peak of the struggle - around 1933 when he was being revered as a God.

oh man, you dint get it. its all PC, he was just covering up his ulterior deeds in the name of abstinence.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:34 pm:

Cocanada:
Gandhi's techniques are based on political correctness in front of crowds

yep, Gandhi gave in to political correctness, otherwise he would have got rid of fanatics on both sides much more easily.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:31 pm:

Cocanada:
Gandhi's techniques are based on political correctness in front of crowds

bud, if he was that PC, he would have never said in his book how he was trying to check his abstinence with a bunch of young girls. or how he treated his wife. and mind you, he wrote all those shattering statements during the peak of the struggle - around 1933 when he was being revered as a God.

Gandhi was anythign but PC - he pursued what he thought was truth in all its vigor. nee South africa incident gurthuku ledhu, if you can provide some ref, will help.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:26 pm:

Bushu:
now Gandhi
is a media creation antaavaa?

very creative.

nope

What I mean is...Gandhi's techniques are based on political correctness in front of crowds

south africa lo finger printing ki against ga satyagraham start chesina gandhi after a few days , mid night secret deal set chesi....andaru indians tho finger prints submit cheyadaaniki no problem ani decide chesadu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:14 pm:

Cocanada:
Can you imagine Gandhi

in days when there is no media ?

Will any of his techniques work?

now Gandhi is a media creation antaavaa?

very creative.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:00 pm:

Anand_n:
Do you know that the Churchill whose statement against Gandhi's role you are taking as proof, was instrumental in putting up Jinnah against Gandhi - he wrote in a letter to Jinnah he does not want India handed into "Hindu Caste-rule" .. and you expect Churchill to eulogise Gandhi ?

avanni maak telvad...gandhi ki against gaa emi cheppadu annade maa gaavale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:54 pm:

Kamal:
Winston Churchil who was the PM of that day .. told in parliament that .. it was not because of Gandhi or violent or non-violent movement that they gave independence .. but Britain was badly bruised in WW-2 and they could not longer handle such bigger and heavy territories like India and pakistan !

LOL. ipudu churchill ni nammaalaa? aadu anna maatalu annitnii support jesthava mari or just nee view point support jesevi mathramenaa? Brits ye country ni vadilnaa India ni vadiley chance lekundey because India was the cash cow - the diamond of the british empire. evvadu kodithe dimma thirigi mind block oo annatluy kottadu Gandhi aallani. churchill hated Gandhi to the core.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:51 pm:

Kamal:
how about truth in INC and Gandhi putting up a brave front that .. "they did not give it, we won it" type???

They know they won it - they may not have seen the need for putting on a front...

Do you know that the Churchill whose statement against Gandhi's role you are taking as proof, was instrumental in putting up Jinnah against Gandhi - he wrote in a letter to Jinnah he does not want India handed into "Hindu Caste-rule" .. and you expect Churchill to eulogise Gandhi ?

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:48 pm:

Kamal:
aina antha baadha enduko .. Gandhi di tappu ante ..

Gandhi di thappu ante naku badha enduku. Gandhi thappulu chesadu ani eppudo post vesanu. Kinda aayanaki publicity pichi ani kooda annaru. Kani thanu nammina principle ni preach chesina manishini kadani oka murderer ni support cheyanu.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:46 pm:

Kamal:
ardam kaaledu .. anyways .. naaku pani undi ! will disco later !

adhi arddam kaadhu..

YSR AMAR RAHE

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:46 pm:

Kamal:
thx anni .. saalu idi

inkemi thammi.. nee vithandavaadham aapi mammalni vimukthudini cheyyi.. poyyi gadse manthraalu sadhuvukoni vastta online lo ethiki..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:45 pm:

Netra:
neenu naaku kanipinchindhi choosi oho ani anukuntu pothaa... evadanna adigithe idhi kanipinchindhi ani atleast oppukuntaa.. guddiga chuss nenu choodaledhu.. choosinodi kallu dobbuntaai adhi ala kaadhu ila ani kotta vaadhana thenu..

ardam kaaledu .. anyways .. naaku pani undi ! will disco later !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:44 pm:

Indiarocks:
How do you know if Gandhi would approve all of this?

because people said .. yes, you people are following gandhism .. and his ideals?
collective intelligence of the people of that time approved it .. today it that opinion has waned .. tomorrow we do not know !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:44 pm:

Kamal:
meeku evarilo choosukovali ani unte .. edi accept cheyyali ani unte adi chesukondi annai .. meeku kavalsina answer ni nannu immanadam enti comedy kakapothe .. more so when I do not believe in such stuff

ninnu evvadu iyyamanledhu.. sampaku nee arddam leni arguments tho ani chebuthunna.. edhutodini thakkuva seyyadaaniki edhavalani ekkuva seyyaku antunna..

neenu naaku kanipinchindhi choosi oho ani anukuntu pothaa... evadanna adigithe idhi kanipinchindhi ani atleast oppukuntaa.. guddiga chuss nenu choodaledhu.. choosinodi kallu dobbuntaai adhi ala kaadhu ila ani kotta vaadhana thenu..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:42 pm:

Kamal:
foriegn policy .. non-alignment movement kaani .. panch sheel lanti proposals ki kaani .. Nehru cheppina basis .. we are following Gandhi and his policies oo kado cheppandi ..

Correction - Nehru followed his interpretation of Gandhi's policies. Manishi ledu aayana principle base chesukuni chesaru ani aayanaki results antagatteyadam anyayam. How do you know if Gandhi would approve all of this?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:42 pm:

Netra:

gadse bhagamanthudi avathaaram.. bhoomi meedha puttina seeda purugu laanti gandhi ni sampaneeki vassina 11 va avathaaram.. dharmanni pari raksinchi geethopadesam chesi poyyadu manaku.. saala thammudu idhi

thx anni .. saalu idi ! :-)

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:41 pm:

Anand_n:

LOL - have you thought it could be a case of face saving "They did not win it , we gave it away " type

how about truth in INC and Gandhi putting up a brave front that .. "they did not give it, we won it" type???

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:41 pm:

Are we discussing Gandhi in general or

his actions during partition time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:40 pm:

Netra:
gandhi principles ante i see from potti sreeramulu and oka vaavilaala goapala krishnaih ilaantivi anna maata.. some extent maa chinna musalodu..

meeku evarilo choosukovali ani unte .. edi accept cheyyali ani unte adi chesukondi annai .. meeku kavalsina answer ni nannu immanadam enti comedy kakapothe .. more so when I do not believe in such stuff !

Gandhiguevara:

Thammud 'gangadin' ani B&w bomma okatundi soosava?

ledu

Indiarocks:
Life lo major part motham okate ani struggle aina manishi mathram 1yr lo maripovali. Manam mathram centuries mundu rule gurinchi kadhalu cheppukuni, present generations nundi daniki justice adugudamu.

ledu annai .. meeku kavalsinattu matrame time periods consider cheyyandi .. aina antha baadha enduko .. Gandhi di tappu ante .. ponle .. repati varaku wait cheste .. nijam telustundi Gandhi gurinchi janaalaki ani oorukovachu ga .. intalone endukanta kangaru? (wrt time teesukondi argument)

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:39 pm:

Kamal:
Gandhi lo kooda anthe .. Godse lo kooda anthe

gadse bhagamanthudi avathaaram.. bhoomi meedha puttina seeda purugu laanti gandhi ni sampaneeki vassina 11 va avathaaram.. dharmanni pari raksinchi geethopadesam chesi poyyadu manaku.. saala thammudu idhi

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:39 pm:

Indiarocks:
I provided a historical fact on why Gandhi was better to follow that Bose.

I provided a historical fact on why Gandhi was better to follow *than Bose

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:38 pm:

Kamal:
so was Winston Churchill ! and the entire British admin after Indian independence !

LOL - have you thought it could be a case of face saving "They did not win it , we gave it away " type :-)

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:37 pm:

Kamal:
no

good.. inka dheniki argue chestunnavu nuvvu.. gandhi ki independence ki sambandham ledhu anukonetodivi alaane undu.. aa thinking tho sampaku janalani adda dhiddamaiana arguments sesi.. iraktti dobbuthundhi..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:35 pm:

Kamal:

Thammud 'gangadin' ani B&w bomma okatundi soosava?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:35 pm:

Kamal:
bossu .. millenia ninchi jarigina anyaayalani .. oka secular constitution raasesi .. 'poyi pooche' andaamu amrutanjan ad lo laaga .. kaani .. secular constitution perutho .. humanism peru tho .. 70% population (hindu population in 1947 with pakistan still in India) ni disdvantage ki guri chesi .. 30% ni .. adi meche .. society lo 10-15% cheta jejelu kottinchukovadam correct kada ..

nijam rendu vaipula ledooo bossu?

10-15% jejela? Mari migatha 55% ni evaru attract cheyaddu annaru Sangh ni? Constitution ki mana argument ki sambandham enti?

Life lo major part motham okate ani struggle aina manishi mathram 1yr lo maripovali. Manam mathram centuries mundu rule gurinchi kadhalu cheppukuni, present generations nundi daniki justice adugudamu.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:35 pm:

Kamal:
ani meeru ante saripodu .. raasina aayana .. evari beliefs ki anukoolam ga raasanu ani cheppado vinandi .. foriegn policy .. non-alignment movement kaani .. panch sheel lanti proposals ki kaani .. Nehru cheppina basis .. we are following Gandhi and his policies oo kado cheppandi ..

adigina question ni answer cheyyava nuvvu.. evado cheppindhi naakendhuku.. gandhi idhi mana foreign policy ani kaani lekunte inkedhanna unte cheppu.. nehru or congress dheniki picture loki.. prathodu modern gandheyavaadhe including BJP lo vallu..

gandhi emi cheppado adhi cheppu.. nehru idhi gandhi principle ante patel vachi idhi gandhi principle ante saripodhu kadhaa.. gandhi principles ante i see from potti sreeramulu and oka vaavilaala goapala krishnaih ilaantivi anna maata.. some extent maa chinna musalodu..

YSR AMAR RAHE

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:34 pm:

Elcaminocapastrino:
thammudu ...winston churchill hindus ni ammana bhuths dhobbey vadu....nee hatred joying lo aa kurrod ni embrace seskoku....nee dharmaniki anyayam sesinavadivi avuthav

lol .. khangaru padaku .. churchill lo 100% nijam undi ani evadu anatledu .. Gandhi lo kooda anthe .. Godse lo kooda anthe ..

nenu dharmanni baane follow avutunna .. feel avvaku .. !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:33 pm:

Jalsa:
eti jaruguthundhi thaadu lo kluptham ga seppu if possibl

Kamal and cokes argument...

Gandhini Gadsey sampudu karrest
Gadsey patriot
Gandhi adi...gandhi idi...

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:33 pm:

Kamal:
Winston Churchill ni khandichalekapoyaare mee netalu ..

thammudu ...winston churchill hindus ni ammana bhuths dhobbey vadu....nee hatred joying lo aa kurrod ni embrace seskoku....nee dharmaniki anyayam sesinavadivi avuthav

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:33 pm:

Netra:
independence ki gandhi kaaranam kaadhu antaavy.. yes or no ani cheppu..

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:32 pm:

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gandhi cheppindhi peace, humanity laanti manchi maatalu.. kasttam gaa unte cheppu ivi.. lite teesukuntaa

surely .. naaku first India and nationalism .. taravate vere vishayaalu .. aa maatalu Gandhi cheppina .. swayam ga Ramude cheppina !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:32 pm:

Kamal:
Winston Churchill

neeku bale dorukutaaru eelu...W Churchill...Rudyard Kipling...

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:32 pm:

kamal bro, h r u?

eti jaruguthundhi thaadu lo kluptham ga seppu if possibl

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:31 pm:

Netra:
foreign policy gandhi decide cheyyaledhu.. bhaaratha rajyangam ki gandhi raayaledhu.. vaatini dheniki gandhiki aapadisttunnava..

ani meeru ante saripodu .. raasina aayana .. evari beliefs ki anukoolam ga raasanu ani cheppado vinandi .. foriegn policy .. non-alignment movement kaani .. panch sheel lanti proposals ki kaani .. Nehru cheppina basis .. we are following Gandhi and his policies oo kado cheppandi ..

Anand_n:
Einstein did not have to run for an election in India

so was Winston Churchill ! and the entire British admin after Indian independence !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:30 pm:

Kamal:
mari .. Winston Churchill ni khandichalekapoyaare mee netalu .. Gandhi dwaara matrame swaatantram vachindi ani namme vaallu .. ledu bey .. meerichedi enti .. memu maa Gandhi margam lo poradi saadhinchukunnamu ani .. jaati pita ni .. aayana role ni takkuva chesi matladina britishodini .. debate chesi oppinchalsindi ga .. mee Gandhi vallane vachindi ani .. appudu calm ga undipoyaare ?

arddam ayyettu post cheyyi.. independence ki gandhi kaaranam kaadhu antaavy.. yes or no ani cheppu.. melikalu thippudu dheniki disco ni..

YSR AMAR RAHE

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:29 pm:

Kamal:
whats wrong with buying truth .. that waiting for eternity ..

Even Gandhi forced the truth on British .. that they are not fair to India .. albeit in a different way .. Gandhi did not wait for eternity to bring the truth .. Godse played his role !

yes, Godse killed gandhi on behalf of the protests of millions of indians. he played his part.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:29 pm:

Kamal:
70% population (hindu population in 1947 with pakistan still in India) ni disdvantage ki guri chesi .. 30% ni .. adi meche .. society lo 10-15% cheta jejelu kottinchukovadam correct kada ..

oorike nasa pettaku boss ee agenda tho.. sasttunnamu inaleka.. 70% population mooskoni koochundhaa disadvantage ki guri chestte.. dheniki ee single line agenda tho saava goduthunnavu.. i never felt nenu disadvantage ki guri ayyanu ani because of gandhi policies.. gandhi cheppindhi peace, humanity laanti manchi maatalu.. kasttam gaa unte cheppu ivi.. lite teesukuntaa

YSR AMAR RAHE

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:28 pm:

Anand_n:
..Einstein did not have to run for an election in India

madya lo mee comedy enti sister

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:28 pm:

Kamal:
nimitta maatrulam kada .. judgement pass cheyyadam gurinchi GOdse ki vyatirekam ga .. aa ideology ni jingoism ani "judgements" pass chesesinappudu emaindo aalochinchaledu anukunta kada ..

I can never support a murderer who chooses to "eliminate" somebody for not agreeing with him. If I do that, I have to support many tell..lists in today's world. I cannot do that.

I provided a historical fact on why Gandhi was better to follow that Bose. Unfortunately only hypotheses from you.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:27 pm:

Netra:
cheppi choodu oka 100 years janalaki pai nijanni.. alaage nammithe oppesukuntaa atleast 100 lo 10 mandhi..

mari .. Winston Churchill ni khandichalekapoyaare mee netalu .. Gandhi dwaara matrame swaatantram vachindi ani namme vaallu .. ledu bey .. meerichedi enti .. memu maa Gandhi margam lo poradi saadhinchukunnamu ani .. jaati pita ni .. aayana role ni takkuva chesi matladina britishodini .. debate chesi oppinchalsindi ga .. mee Gandhi vallane vachindi ani .. appudu calm ga undipoyaare ?

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:27 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
..

Have not seen this satirical side of you before :-)

Gandhiguevara:
Gandhi is a world leader ane fact matram ye wind ki maaradu

But you forget , the world has no motive in discrediting him..Einstein did not have to run for an election in India

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:26 pm:

Kamal:
vaammo ..vaammo ... poddunna lesthe .. Gandhi bomma pettukuni votes adugutaaru .. memu thu-cha tappakunda paatistunnadi Gandhism ani constitution meeda promise chesi adugutaaru .. chivariki Nehru ni white lo portray cheyyadaaniki Gandhi ni black chestunnara??? Nehru .. Gandhi policies ni tanaki ardam ainattu ga implement chesaadu .. ane meeru kooda elections lo votes adigaaru time and again .. ane people kooda votes vesaaru time and again .. and aa policies tappu ane history prove chestondi .. time and again

arddam parddam leni argument cheyyaku.. congress and BJP tarvaatha disco cheddamu.. main focus gandhi principles ani unnai.. vaati gurinchi anukuntaa..

peace, antaraani thanam, graama swarajyam ilaantivi thappu ani prove ayyi unte koncham cheppu..

foreign policy gandhi decide cheyyaledhu.. bhaaratha rajyangam ki gandhi raayaledhu.. vaatini dheniki gandhiki aapadisttunnava..

YSR AMAR RAHE

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:26 pm:

Kamal:
whats wrong with buying truth .. that waiting for eternity ..

Even Gandhi forced the truth on British .. that they are not fair to India .. albeit in a different way .. Gandhi did not wait for eternity to bring the truth .. Godse played his role !

yes, definetly there is nothing wrong in it. dhaniki Truth only prevails ani statements avasaram aa. what ever prevails is truth anukunte saripothundhi kadha..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:25 pm:

Indiarocks:

aunu bossu, decades gaa nammi poradina vallu 1 or 2 yrs lo change aipovali, manam mathram mughal rule lo jarigina vatini inka talchukundamu, danni correct cheyali ani try cheddamu, present generations ni daniki badhyulu cheddamu

bossu .. millenia ninchi jarigina anyaayalani .. oka secular constitution raasesi .. 'poyi pooche' andaamu amrutanjan ad lo laaga .. kaani .. secular constitution perutho .. humanism peru tho .. 70% population (hindu population in 1947 with pakistan still in India) ni disdvantage ki guri chesi .. 30% ni .. adi meche .. society lo 10-15% cheta jejelu kottinchukovadam correct kada ..

nijam rendu vaipula ledooo bossu?

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:25 pm:

correction.. takattu pettinche poyaadu peddayana with victorian policies..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:23 pm:

Cocanada:
freedom pedhayana valla ne ochindi antara

WW-2 valla ochindi.. probably british conspired to give Gandhi mileage right from his days in SA till independence.. Gandhi ni gidse champakapoyunte gandhi india ni brits edo vidhanga takattu ettevaadu malli..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:23 pm:

Kamal:
khangaru padaddu .. adi nijam (truth) aithe vintaaru .. lekapothe ledu ..

btw .. discussion lo nannu kindal cheste .. mee vaadana nijam aipotunda?

Kamal:
it was not because of Gandhi or violent or non-violent movement that they gave independence ..

nee vaadhana ki naa daggara answer unte inkemi..

cheppi choodu oka 100 years janalaki pai nijanni.. alaage nammithe oppesukuntaa atleast 100 lo 10 mandhi..

YSR AMAR RAHE

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:23 pm:

Cocanada:
But are we not suffering now?

partition valla manamem suffer avuthunnam?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:21 pm:

Kamal:
Gandhi did not adapt well in his last years ..

aunu bossu, decades gaa nammi poradina vallu 1 or 2 yrs lo change aipovali, manam mathram mughal rule lo jarigina vatini inka talchukundamu, danni correct cheyali ani try cheddamu, present generations ni daniki badhyulu cheddamu

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:21 pm:

Indiarocks:

Gandhi righto wrongo judgements taruvatha pass cheddamu, oka person ideology correct kakapothe elimination okkate solution aa? hope you do not go by this

I follow the world .. world implements the same day-in and day-out !

nimitta maatrulam kada .. judgement pass cheyyadam gurinchi GOdse ki vyatirekam ga .. aa ideology ni jingoism ani "judgements" pass chesesinappudu emaindo aalochinchaledu anukunta kada ..

chaala chitram manushula pokada !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:20 pm:

Indiarocks:
okkati cheppandi mastaru. Gandhi South Africa lo, Pre independence lo, post independence lo okkate cheppadu. change chesada? Where is the question of being right, and not?

it was wrong by gandhi, he did not change with society. he tried to be with philosophy, and society could not handle it. its his wrong doing, and he paid for it. ofcourse, he was lucky that he lasted so long.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:20 pm:

freedom pedhayana valla ne ochindi antara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:19 pm:

Indiarocks:
ideology correct kakapothe

chinna correction...correct kakapothe kaadu...manaki nachakapothe

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:19 pm:

Gandhiguevara:
Gandhi is a world leader ane fact matram ye wind ki maaradu

Gandhi is great

but during partition, he has done only damage to India. Adhi cheppedhi.

May be Pakistan was same as India to him at that time. That is understandable.

But are we not suffering now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:19 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:

why did Godse have to kill Gandhi,if he was confident that Truth prevails. he did not have the patience isn't it, he could not wait to see truth prevailing, so he had to force the truth to prevail.

whats wrong with buying truth .. that waiting for eternity ..

Even Gandhi forced the truth on British .. that they are not fair to India .. albeit in a different way .. Gandhi did not wait for eternity to bring the truth .. Godse played his role !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:19 pm:

Gandhiguevara:
freedom vachesindi...inka peddayantho pani ledu...esesaru anthenaa?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:19 pm:

Kamal:
Pre-independence lo nadichina Gandhi policies .. post independence lo nadavaledu .. just because the reason is ..

freedom vachesindi...inka peddayantho pani ledu...esesaru anthenaa?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:18 pm:

Kamal:
when Gandhi was right .. he was emulated .. when Gandhi was wrong he was eliminated .. as simple as that !

Gandhi righto wrongo judgements taruvatha pass cheddamu, oka person ideology correct kakapothe elimination okkate solution aa? hope you do not go by this

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:17 pm:

Indiarocks:
Gandhi South Africa lo, Pre independence lo, post independence lo okkate cheppadu. change chesada?

oka opinion ni strong gaa defend chesevallani enni cheppina danlo bokkal etukutharu...

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:17 pm:

Indiarocks:

okkati cheppandi mastaru. Gandhi South Africa lo, Pre independence lo, post independence lo okkate cheppadu. change chesada? Where is the question of being right, and not?

Pre-independence lo nadichina Gandhi policies .. post independence lo nadavaledu .. just because the reason is ..

Indiarocks:
Ofcourse nationalism ki kotha boundaries vachayi, after independence.

Gandhi did not adapt well in his last years ..

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:17 pm:

Kamal:
assumption .. Ramudini .. konni vela samvastaraalu ga poojistoo ... larger context lo follow avutunnamu kaabatte .. we even kept the motto as "Satyameva Jayate" for the govt and its people ..

why did Godse have to kill Gandhi,if he was confident that Truth prevails. he did not have the patience isn't it, he could not wait to see truth prevailing, so he had to force the truth to prevail.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:15 pm:

Kamal:
when Gandhi was right .. he was emulated .. when Gandhi was wrong he was eliminated .. as simple as that !

Sad but true. Wrong by the definitions of some people who can kill in the guise of patriotism, especially a person who is against violence. Man, that is a Right thing to do.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:14 pm:

Netra:
modi, vajapayee and advani is greater than gandhi ani tarvaatha statement ki ready avuthunnamu anthe

khangaru padaddu .. adi nijam (truth) aithe vintaaru .. lekapothe ledu ..

btw .. discussion lo nannu kindal cheste .. mee vaadana nijam aipotunda?

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:14 pm:

Kamal:
when Gandhi was right .. he was emulated .. when Gandhi was wrong he was eliminated .. as simple as that !

okkati cheppandi mastaru. Gandhi South Africa lo, Pre independence lo, post independence lo okkate cheppadu. change chesada? Where is the question of being right, and not?

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:13 pm:

Kamal:
when Gandhi was right .. he was emulated .. when Gandhi was wrong he was eliminated .. as simple as that !

chalo half way ochavu.. inko half twaralone osthavu anukuntunna. As I said before.. it takes times and exposure.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:13 pm:

Netra:
china ki peace mantra ni gandhi nerpinchaledhu kadha thammudu.. nerpinchindhi indians ki.. nehru intentions ni arddam seskovadam lo porabaddau.. moolyam chellinchukunnamu.. gandhi principles ki dhaaniki sambandham endhi.. gandhi principles individual ki aapadinchandi not to country foreign policies..

vaammo ..vaammo ... poddunna lesthe .. Gandhi bomma pettukuni votes adugutaaru .. memu thu-cha tappakunda paatistunnadi Gandhism ani constitution meeda promise chesi adugutaaru .. chivariki Nehru ni white lo portray cheyyadaaniki Gandhi ni black chestunnara??? Nehru .. Gandhi policies ni tanaki ardam ainattu ga implement chesaadu .. ane meeru kooda elections lo votes adigaaru time and again .. ane people kooda votes vesaaru time and again .. and aa policies tappu ane history prove chestondi .. time and again

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:13 pm:

Kamal:
when Gandhi was right .. he was emulated .. when Gandhi was wrong he was eliminated .. as simple as that !

antha braanthiyenaa

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:11 pm:

Kamal:
Winston Churchil who was the PM of that day .. told in parliament that .. it was not because of Gandhi or violent or non-violent movement that they gave independence .. but Britain was badly bruised in WW-2 and they could not longer handle such bigger and heavy territories like India and pakistan !

nuvvu aa pillodu vaadisttunnadhi soottuntene maa kallu bairlu kammuthunnai thammudu.. inkemi chebuthaamu and inkemi argue settamu.. modi, vajapayee and advani is greater than gandhi ani tarvaatha statement ki ready avuthunnamu anthe

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:10 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
inko pakka, 5 to 6 members ki cheppindhi nijam anukuntunnamu... parledhu antaava..

that is not an assumption .. govt of India enquiry ne telchindi .. the commission had the likes of Patel, Nehru as signing authorities !!! so nenu parledu anatledu ..

ippudu meeru cheppandi .. are you not "assuming" complicity of the right wing unduly and untruthfully .. just because Godse believed in policies of the right wingers???? who is true and who is not???

Mental_sachinodu:
Ramudu, oka maata, oka banam, purushothamudu ani anukuntaamu, kaani, nijanga Ramudu lanti character mana madhya lo thrigithe, we will be the first to go against him. a path of truth, and peace is not easy to follow, not because we cannot hold on to it, but its because society cannot handle it.

assumption .. Ramudini .. konni vela samvastaraalu ga poojistoo ... larger context lo follow avutunnamu kaabatte .. we even kept the motto as "Satyameva Jayate" for the govt and its people ..

Mental_sachinodu:
same happend with Gandhi, as long as he was against Outsiders he was followed, once the same person appeared as obstacle to what we feel, he was eliminated. it is as simple as that.

when Gandhi was right .. he was emulated .. when Gandhi was wrong he was eliminated .. as simple as that !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:07 pm:

cheppinde malli cheppina janalu memu pattukunna rabbit 3 legs antaru.

The outcome of a meeting is the collective responsibility of everybody in it. Not just ONE. period. Everbody wants to impose/propagate his ideas. Ppl agreeing to follow those at will, are equally at fault.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:07 pm:

Parthasaradhi:
Denikaina time untadi annai. prateedaaniki peace action ante violance reaction avuddi. Situation ni batti opponent ni batti mana strategy maaraali. Peace mantra is also a strategy. It is not universal conquering principle.

china ki peace mantra ni gandhi nerpinchaledhu kadha thammudu.. nerpinchindhi indians ki.. nehru intentions ni arddam seskovadam lo porabaddau.. moolyam chellinchukunnamu.. gandhi principles ki dhaaniki sambandham endhi.. gandhi principles individual ki aapadinchandi not to country foreign policies..

YSR AMAR RAHE

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:07 pm:

Anand_n:
Today there is political gain in discrediting Gandhi so partition was solely Gandhi's fault, Jinnah great, Godse great ... tomorrow if the political winds change it will be a different tune

Gandhi is a world leader ane fact matram ye wind ki maaradu

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:06 pm:

Kamal:
but in true sense .. Godse was nobody's agent .. because he did not discuss the plan for assasination with not more than only 5-6 people .. even INC of the day knew .. Gandhi will be killed .. they just let that happen because somebody has to be a scape goat and Gandhi who leaded them as was pushed by them was sacrificed for long term gains of ruling the country .. even Gandhi was aware of this all .. just like a Bhagat Singh knew he will be dead in his path .. Gandhi went ahead with his agenda .. I guess thats the larger picture !!!

we are gladly believing that it is true. who knows what has happend. oka pakka 100's raasina stories ni propaganda antunnamu. inko pakka, 5 to 6 members ki cheppindhi nijam anukuntunnamu... parledhu antaava..

Ramudu, oka maata, oka banam, purushothamudu ani anukuntaamu, kaani, nijanga Ramudu lanti character mana madhya lo thrigithe, we will be the first to go against him. a path of truth, and peace is not easy to follow, not because we cannot hold on to it, but its because society cannot handle it. same happend with Gandhi, as long as he was against Outsiders he was followed, once the same person appeared as obstacle to what we feel, he was eliminated. it is as simple as that.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:04 pm:

Cocanada:
there is nothing unique about india getting independence

Indepence ani wikipedia lo kottu...manadi entha unique movement in the history no telusthundi...
Causes for a country or province wishing to seek independence are many. Disillusionment rising from the establishment is a cause widely used in separatist movements, but it is usually severe economic difficulties that trigger these groups into action. The means can extend from peaceful demonstrations, like in the case of the Indian independence movement, to a violent civil war.

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:04 pm:

Netra:
don't blame gandhi cheppina peace mantranni .. dhaaniki value chaalane undhi.. paatinchaka poyyi undochhu kaani it makes sense for sukhi and mandela.. andhuke vallu heros aa country lo.. martin luther king laantoollu kooda aacharinchina oka revolution adhi.. anni kaala garbham lo kalusttai.. kaani idhi maatram alaane untadhi..

peace is the most powerful weapon.. evarini destroy cheyyadhu

I brought China topic to show the result of an untimely peace mantra. Denikaina time untadi annai. prateedaaniki peace action ante violance reaction avuddi. Situation ni batti opponent ni batti mana strategy maaraali. Peace mantra is also a strategy. It is not universal conquering principle.

Naham janami keyure naham janami kankane |
Nupuretveva janami nityam padabhivandanat ||

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:03 pm:

Have you noticed this letter makes the email chain rounds every year on Gandhi Jayanti and on his death anniversary ... :-)

Today there is political gain in discrediting Gandhi so partition was solely Gandhi's fault, Jinnah great, Godse great ... tomorrow if the political winds change it will be a different tune :-)

aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale
jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:03 pm:

Cocanada:

after WW-2, all the asian countries got independence because Britain could not hold everything together
there is nothing unique about india getting independence

ippudu choodu .. Winston Churchil parliament lo cheppinadi tappu ani vaadistaru ..

Winston Churchil who was the PM of that day .. told in parliament that .. it was not because of Gandhi or violent or non-violent movement that they gave independence .. but Britain was badly bruised in WW-2 and they could not longer handle such bigger and heavy territories like India and pakistan !

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:01 pm:

Cocanada:
Will any of his techniques work?

potti sreeramulu ani okaayana undetodu.. aayana gurinchi emanna telusaa.. ledhu ante aayana kooda pichhode ani decide chesaara..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:01 pm:

Gandhiguevara:
vunna conspiracy lu saalu yee matter lo kothavi ettaku

nenu emi analedu mama.. aa statmement"Mental Sachinodu" mama di..

peru lagane ne post kuda vesedu..chuss..j/k

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 03:00 pm:

Kamal:
his use was until we had to face British

after WW-2, all the asian countries got independence because Britain could not hold everything together
there is nothing unique about india getting independence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:59 pm:

Bunty717:
i will not be surprised if there was INC's hand behind Godse. May be Godse was a double agent.

vunna conspiracy lu saalu yee matter lo kothavi ettaku

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:59 pm:

Can you imagine Gandhi

in days when there is no media ?

Will any of his techniques work?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX-360Pzbg[7:45-7:50]

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:58 pm:

Mental_sachinodu:
I think it was a very political move by Godse, he is no kid. there was no use of gandhi anymore, his use was until we had to face British. once they are out of the country, our politicians saw gandhi as an obstacle for their profits, so they got him killed. i feel its all power play. i will not be surprised if there was INC's hand behind Godse. May be Godse was a double agent.

you have a point here that is correct ..

but in true sense .. Godse was nobody's agent .. because he did not discuss the plan for assasination with not more than only 5-6 people .. even INC of the day knew .. Gandhi will be killed .. they just let that happen because somebody has to be a scape goat and Gandhi who leaded them as was pushed by them was sacrificed for long term gains of ruling the country .. even Gandhi was aware of this all .. just like a Bhagat Singh knew he will be dead in his path .. Gandhi went ahead with his agenda .. I guess thats the larger picture !!!

anuraagam konagalige dhanamunda ee lokam lo - mamakaaram viluventho marichava siri maikam lo -
aanandam konaleni dhanaraasi tho - anaadha ga migilave amavaasa lo ..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:58 pm:

i will not be surprised if there was INC's hand behind Godse. May be Godse was a double agent.
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lucky.. inka appatiki inka Ambani ledu .. else malli blame chesevaru
janam..

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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:56 pm:

Kamal:
more justice to minorities

justice lo more justice, less justice undavu. Gandhi lo nationalism leda? navvuthadu boss evaranna. Ofcourse nationalism ki kotha boundaries vachayi, after independence. And Gandhi is in no way at fault, when he could not agree with those boundaries. Avathala side vallu adi entha gurthincharu anedi different point.

Ippudu vallu manalni champutunnaru ani meeru kooda champandi ani Gandhi sides theeskoledu aney gaa mee badha.

Thanks for agreeing that he had humanism at his focus. No wonder he is revered so much across the world.

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