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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 11:42 pm:       

Driver you perfect example of maha brahma
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 11:37 pm:       


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bob you are pefrect synonum of
how many times beat never die snake type

already ppl giving many chances or opportunities to you so you are able to prost all paragraphs

if you are really objectionable then they would have banned you.

So use all the internet GBs and keep typingggggg without any interruption


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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 11:24 pm:       

Emc you continue in your path, I will continue in mine. Friends all I want to say is give me a chance to share my exp
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 11:20 pm:       


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orey koncham ayina siggu vunda, already vedas and Upanishads lo unnadi geeta lo chepparu, again budha thought the same with extra variants of info, budha ki vedas teaching lekapothe he should never attain the enlightenment, foundation for budhas meditation is hindi

you are just manipulating people to belive budha is the altimate, budhisma is a failure model and destroyed the india
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 11:11 pm:       

Sirivennala garu said ramuni krishnuni keeristu koorchuntama, valla laage manam kooda edo saadhidham ani, In similar thought process I wanted to share something I learnt from my experience, I am serious because the same mistake I did caused loss of life and you are still unaware of how it happens, so you keep fighting each other
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 11:08 pm:       

Friends I have deeply and truly great respect for Brahmins, their contribution to this land, whether narayana murty or tcs ceo, or isro, army etc, they never took property by force, all they said was don't kill, the Buddha also said the same, he only told if someone harms we have no control over the other person mind so be not guilty of anger and hatred. One step higher, that's all. This is similar to what sirivennela gaaru said. But buddha is more worthy of a teacher having attained nirvana.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:59 pm:       

In misunderstanding that because of Buddhism india destroyed, these are all faulty because no-one can say why what happened when it is related to outsiders doing something, but for ourselves we can know if we do some thing right or wrong. So our ignorance is what differentiates between first rabker and second, To that extent we can know where we did good and where we did bad. While all this analysis is just for discussion, I want to share my experience, whether I do it out of pain or pleasure or without any feelings, I am also not clear, I only see a urgency to share it.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:53 pm:       

Friends none of this I share to manipulate, my intention is to get a chance to discuss with you and share my experience. That experience says all sporitsul walks lead to same truth, but here we are fighting buddha destroyed etc , to this, I wat to bring a conclusion. My exp gave me something,I wish to share with you so you won't keep fighting ycp tdp etc. but by request for even an year you are not giving a chance, then I am hurt and finding no other way, I am talking about other things hoping you would find motivation in this comparative studies, that could reveal you some new insights
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:47 pm:       

Friends if you still feel buddha is against Hindus I tell you buddha knows the deepest levels of friendship. Through that buddha always is a bestower of blessings even to hindus. All hindus knowledge is eternally scripted in history by the effort of buddha, he ensured all the knowledge the sages wanted to give to the world, by teaching the dhamma far and wide, and the Vedic era is marked by ramayana as a pillar. That is why the Vedic sages like vasista and viswamitra appear in ramayana. The Buddha is a fulfillment of valmiki
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:35 pm:       

My 254 post says that chariots were a highly recognised references in Buddhism just like arjuna and charioteer, this imagination is well captured in various places in Buddhism. This is what it is since I have been talking about this cross references for so long. What have you interpreted in the stack exchange links I share, please tell me what you understood.
Gita talks about brahma nirvana, buddha talks about vedic sages so when do you think gita happened, gita quotes the same the Buddha quotes, about fire, gayatri mantra and similar to sakka seeing buddha got his doubts cleared so does arjuna. Gita tries to compile all schools of thought into same platform whether it is sankya, veda, Upanishads, buddha, jaina sakta, yoga etc
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:30 pm:       

Because of Buddhism india destroyed is another misunderstanding, after hindu revival by sankara all invasions happens so should we say because of sankara it got destroyed or what, things happened but thworing accusations and isults is not at all meaningful
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:29 pm:       

Read your post number 254

Again your are manipulating
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:28 pm:       


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What the F is debate, you are a manipulator

You just push your ego and all lies

There is no point of talking

What is the point of spamming with junk, any body can copy anything from any books and say in great

You don’t know the fundamentals of spirituality
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:27 pm:       

That is the same story I said the picture is about on the day buddha left home for monkhood upon seeing those sangatana. I dulo neeku Jain's ani, sages ani nuvvu cheppinatlu ekkada ledu
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:26 pm:       

Pls tell me what is the story that you understood and where I mislead you in writing
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:26 pm:       

This bronze relief panel depicts the four sights of Prince Siddhartha, including him in a chariot with his charioteer Channa.The artwork illustrates scenes from the life of Buddha Siddhartha Gautama, featuring a depiction of a sick person, an old person, a dead person, and a meditating ascetic.This specific mural is located at the Tịnh Xá Ngọc Châu Buddhist temple in Chau Doc, Vietnam.

Siggu ledu paniki malina pindacor

Janalani mosam cheyaku , it will come at you
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:25 pm:       

Emc bro let's talk like we are debating a topic rather than throwing insults at each other. Nenu just oka avakasam adiganu, meeranta mee manobhavalau debbatintunnai annatlu evevo cheptunnaru, aa avakasam kosam nenu evanni istam unna lekapoina cheppukuntunanu, adedo kalisi matladitey evanni undevi kaadu, aa vishyam cheppataniki inni raatalu naku kooda tappevi. Veetannitinkaana adi mukyam, so adi meeto share chesyali.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:24 pm:       

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/1ue31xg/prince_si ddhartha_asked_a_charioteer_to_take_him/?solution=f9a976717d 130281f9a976717d130281&js_challenge=1&token=7afd7253fec22262 ff1c52b1703fe9ec19f1ce2c80ec0081856eb425c34f6345&jsc_orig_r=


Here is the real story of that picture

Siggu padara , janalani mosam cheyadaniki Siggu ledu
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:20 pm:       

Orey neeku ye Vidham ga Buddha is before Maha Bharath ani cheppali anipinchindi ra

That picture is no way related to Buddha

Anni vadilesi Matha pracharam chesthunnavu

Buddhism is a failure model and because of budhisma India got destroyed
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:12 pm:       

Pasuvulaki lenidi manishiki undedi chadavagaligey vignanam, Meeku maanam abhibanam rendu levu, aa picture buddhudu sanyasam teesukonadaniki karanamina sangatanalu.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 10:01 pm:       


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Orey neeku koncham ayina Siggu unda

Intha cheater vi entra, nuvvu esina picture lo vallu Jain’s ani ela anipinchindi ra

They are just sages, if you really believe in Buddha he is watching your scams

You are a big fraud..
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:46 pm:       

Friends eppudaitey gayatri mantra gurunchi buddhudu palikaado appude naaku buddhuni manobhavam to nenu kooda choochinappudu anni vivaram ga ardhamainayi friends, ee tapana anta Enduku antey naku parichayam aina exp to kaligina vignyanam cheptundi Andaram ela kalisi undacho ani, adi meeto panchukovali friends, ila okarniokaru tuttukuntey em phalitam
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:40 pm:       

Kinda pinna aney monk chaatina vidhanam, srivennela gaari manobhavam okkatey friends, evidanga antey manandariki telisindey, kaani punna okka tejasu marinta ekkuva
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:33 pm:       

Kevalam bhajanalakey parimitam ai manalo understanding curiosity, early mans search for settlement and coexistence anni devudu ani mixi lo vesi manaki emotional intellectual limited space unna puratana kaalam lo chesina prayatam ee geyalu padyalu, endukantey buddhuni philosophy ardham chesukuney staying prajalaki ledu ani sadara abhiprayam Andukey masses ki ardhamayyela pataaluga cheppocharu

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Kaani ippudu meeru naaku acajasam istey naa 21 va satabdam spiritual experience meetoncheppukuntaanu, ii kaalam lo ramana maharishi, ramakrishna leda nisargadatta lanti vaalu evaranna naaku kaani Meeku kaani telistey cheppandi valla daggarakey poyi cheppukuntanu , atuvanti vaaru telika, chinnapatnundi pichodi laga ee poja cheyu aa ungaram dharinchu antey vine vaadini, vaatilo enta vignanam unna avi buddhini vignanam kanna takkuvey, Andukey budhhuni mata kooda vinandi, idi Meeku itara matalanu kooda choosi cheptunnanu, manam converts avatam kanna mana daggarey vunna boudham choodandi
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:23 pm:       

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Friends gita lo jains taaluku avaseshalu kooda bouddham laane kanipustai, veeti patti ardham chesukovachu samajam lo unity kosam cheppina padyam gitam
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:18 pm:       

Inka cheppamantey vedas gotras nundi anni cheptanu friends, viney uddesam parisodinchey abhiprayam Meeku kalagalani manavi. Idanta ipudu avasarama antey nenu Thanos ni choosanu aa spiritual exp meeto cheppali
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:16 pm:       

Friends we should know our history thoroughly and not simply believe. Monna bitter ni a manishi account choodandi ani adiganu endukante pustakaalu rayakaminde nagarikata mariu manava manuga vantivi parisodanalu munupu tella doralu ippudu atuvanti kovaku chendina marikondaru chestunnaru. Manam ikkada ycp vaddu tdp vaddu jsp vaddu Muslims xtisns leda congress bjp antu tannukuntunnam, vache vadu vachi denkipothunnadu
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:12 pm:       

I am telling you friends it is buddhas teachings that inspired vyasa to harmonised all the various dharmic paths into one and unite the society. He very well in concurrence with secularism and never secterian or racist beliefs. Gita has been praised for so long but it's inspiration is not open.

After the monks started to cut hills and mountains to build viharas that skill translated to others and temples were also doing the same.
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:07 pm:       

Friends if we read my previous posts sakka praising buddha it is same as arjuna praising buddha after seeing his viswarup and says all his doubts have be cleared
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:03 pm:       

https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/53762/did-buddh a-praise-gayatri-mantra
 

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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2026 - 09:00 pm:       

The question is stated quite simply, but since I have heard this often, and very little of discussion on it. I chose to do some proper research. The answer I would be writing would be discussing more than just the question, it would be discussing the stated verse in the question as well.

Sāvitrī mantra, also known as Gāyatrī mantra because of it being composed in Gāyatrī chanda (poetic meter). It appears first in the R̥g Veda (3.62. 4-18), composed by Viśvāmitra Gāthina in the Gayatrī chanda, dedicated to a solar deity Sāvitṛ, one of the Ādityas.

Br̥hadāraṇyakopaniṣad (5.14) has a full chapter dedicated to GāyatrĪ or Sāvitrī mantra (both being used interchangeably). Its glorious mention and praise is present in Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa (e.g. 14.8.15.7), Maitrī Upaniṣad (6.2), Manusmr̥ti (2.77 ; 2.81 ; 2.83) and so on likewise in other dharmasūtras, dharmaśāstras, Purāṇas and later texts. This clearly shows the importance of Sāvitrī mantra in Vedic tradition.

In MN 92 (Sela Sutta), which is raised in the question, Buddha says:

“Aggihuttamukhā yaññā,
sāvittī chandaso mukhaṁ;
Rājā mukhaṁ manussānaṁ,
nadīnaṁ sāgaro mukhaṁ.

The fire-oblation (agnihotra) is the foremost of sacrifices;
The Sāvitrī is the foremost of poetic meters (chandas);
A king is the foremost of humans;
The ocean is the foremost of rivers.

Nakkhattānaṁ mukhaṁ cando,
ādicco tapataṁ mukhaṁ;
Puññaṁ ākaṅkhamānānaṁ,
saṅgho ve yajataṁ mukhan”ti."

The moon is the foremost of stars (naká¹£atras);
The sun the foremost of fires;
But for those who sacrifice seeking merit,
An offering to the Saṅgha is foremost.

The verses quoted above are given by the Buddha in appreciation of Keṇiya's humble offering. The poem thus serves as a form of blessing after the Buddha and the bhikkhus have been fed. Keṇiya was his host and although he respected Buddha, he still held faith in Brāhmaṇas, seeing no contradiction in maintaining his traditional Brahmanical practices. In this aspect, he was different to brāhmaṇa Sela, who is although a revered one in tradition and in whom Keṇiya held faith, he still came to believe Buddha's practice to be superior to Brahmanical. Keṇiya remains a householder, offering alms and not joining the saṅgha, while Sela goes forth to become an arahant, this shows the contrast b/w the two of them. It's important to note that although in these verses Buddha praises Sāvitrī mantra, agnihotra, sun and moon but at the end, he clearly stated that offerings to the Saṅgha are better than any of the merit-seeking sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, which is not the Vedic view but his own.

It is interesting to note the comparitive analysis of this verse from MN 92 with Taittirīya Saṁhitā which claim that a certain meter (5.2.1.5) or sacrifice (7.1.1.3) is best/highest. The Pāl̥i verse seems to provide an alternative to the view expressed in (5.4.12.1), which holds that trirātra (three-nighter) to be the best of sacrifices (paramas triātro yajñānām) and anuṣṭubh to be the best of meters (paramā vā eṣā chandasāṁ). Note, that a few versions of Sāvitrī mantra such as that in Chāndogyopaniṣad (5.2.7) are in anuṣṭubh chanda rather than the Gāyatrī chanda used in R̥g Veda (3.62. 4-18), this issue was raised even in Br̥hadāraṇyakopaniṣad (5.14.5) which says that although some recite Sāvitrī as an anuṣṭubh but it's wrong, and one should recite it instead as a gāyatrī. But there are many passages which glorify the usage of anuṣṭubh chanda such as Aitareya Brāhmaṇa (3.15.1), Jaiminīya Brāhmaṇa (1.272.13) and Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa (3.1.4.16). So, it's quite a controversy.

Sela Sutta (MN 92) has some parallels such as Bhesajjakkhandhaka (Kd 6) and a few others which can be found in the suttacentral link of MN92 in the references at the end of answer. A similar verse occurs in Sanskrit in Mahāvastu 108 (Mv 108):

“agnihotramukhā yajñā Sāvitrī chandasāṃ mukhaṃ ǀ
rājā mukhaṃ manuṣyāṇāṃ nadīnāṃ sāgaro mukho ǀǀ
nakṣatrāṇāṃ candro mukhaṃ ādityo tapasāṃ ǀ
ūrddhaṃ tiryag adhastâpi yāvatā jagatāṃ gati ǀ
sadevakasya lokasya sambuddho vadatām varo" ||

Translation: “The fire-sacrifice (agnihotra) is the foremost sacrifice; the Sāvitrī is the foremost among chandas; a king is the foremost among men; the ocean is the foremost of rivers. The moon is the foremost of stars (nakṣatras); the sun is the foremost of fires; above, across and below, as far as the sphere of living beings. The perfectly enlightened Buddha is the foremost among speakers in the world of men and (in the world) of devas.”

In Mv 108, the story is different to MN 92. In Mv 108, Buddha meets three Kāśyapas, who were Jaṭilas (matted hair ascetics), who eventually followed him and instead of Keṇiya, Uruvilvā-Kāśyapa serves his a meal, for which Buddha said the verses before in appreciation. In Mv 108, Buddha doesn't state the last two lines of aforementioned verse in MN 92 (puññam ākaṅkhamānānaṁ, saṅgho ve yajataṁ mukhan"ti.) which shows offering to saṅgha superior to all sacrifices in Vedic tradition, and instead has different line praising Buddha as the foremost among men and devas.

The verses of Buddha in MN 92 and Mv 108 are pretty similar to a poem which appears in some versions of Mahābhārata. There the poem begins with the words agnihotramukhā vedā gāyatrī chandasāṁ mukham. However, according to Bodewitz (2003, p. 5), the latter might possibly be a 'wrong version' of the Pāl̥i verse. The translation of this full poem is presented by Ganguli:

As the agnihotra is the foremost among all Vedic sacrifices,
as the Gāyatrī is the foremost among chandas,
as the king is the foremost among men,
as the ocean is the foremost among all rivers,
as the moon is the foremost among all constellations,
as the sun is the foremost among all luminous bodies,
as the Meru is the foremost among all mountains,
as Garuḍa is the foremost among all birds,
so as long as the upward, downward, and sideway course of the universe lasts,
Keśava is the foremost in all the worlds including the regions of the celestials.
(Section XXXVII, Rājasūyika Parva, Book 2: Sabhā Parva)

Smith (2001) explains the lines of the poem to be 'short fragments of text attested in one or more manuscripts but not accepted into the constituted text of the Critical edition'. Basically, this poem is not present in the Critical edition of Mahābhārata by BORI.

The first six lines of the verse are closely similar to that present in Mv 108 and MN 92, the later lines of the three verses however differs. While Buddha's poem in MN 92 ends as a sort of paean to saṅgha, the Mahābharata version ends as a paean to Keśava (another name of Kr̥ṣṇa). Both versions are speculated to have derived from forms of praise occuring in earlier Brahmanical oral texts. It's possible that Mv 108 was derived from MN 92. And it is possibly that either Mahābhārata version was derived from Mv 108, because the Mahābhārata version is closer in structure to Mv 108, or the other way round, where Mv 108 might have been derived from Mahābhārata verse
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 09:13 pm:       

Our society tv politics etc is being consumed by useless dissension. Deeni valla manam kottukovadam, dchedham vantivi maatrame erpadutunnai. Ok sari nencheppedi gamaninchandi, mana db lone andaru chaduvukunna vallu, aina ycp tdp avvadu, tdp ycp avvadu, ila sangharshana valla evariki laabam
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 09:08 pm:       

It is a critical juncture we are at crossroads and I wish to share with you about our own history so that you can benefit from it. Without even hearing it don't judge a person. I repeat don't be like Upaka
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 09:04 pm:       

People like driver bro have since centuries kept saying what they say, I now tell you to learn from others also. I said god didn't come to save, you say buddha didn't save anyone so did shankaracharya save anyone. This is all meaningless. I also enjoy the peace and feeling of protection of a small temple in the middle of the forest where will animals and others roam. But those days have gone past and future is with different sets of hopes and aspirations. I therefore encourage you to accept evolution and pursue teachings.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 08:54 pm:       

Friends, in ancient days neighbour tribes contacted each other and learnt from them. Don't stay stubborn, hear others words and feelings. Try to see how buddha or another is teaching about friendliness. Whatever remains, if we all want to preserve then stay away from dissension. Buddha is like a helmet for our mind. Follow noble silence and 5 percepts. These are guiding teachings to keep people from suffering. If possible be humble students towards the world. Without even hearing me you are avoiding. I could not listen to my father, teacher or even the Buddha. For this lack of skill to listen, I brought so much suffering. I want you also to not make the same mistake. I will share a piece of information that will be a help for you all. Have the curiosity to hear me. More than all of you I liked valmiki and Shiva and Vishnu etc. but simply being a fan is the same as fan of movie stars, you try to be as good as they are but only in few things. Remaining things we continue doing our mistakes. In same way we follow god. This gives us a feeling we are sincere bhaktas. But our sincerity is tested when we havebto forgo family and friends to the exclusive relationship with God. This bring a moral and difficult question. Whether we give up family or god. Lack of understanding we give up god because we don't know what is god and we feel for our family members. But don't be like that, don't be Upaka. I don't have a magic by which I share something and you fall into my hold. It's not like that. I just want to share something with you as a member of this land who saw something and wish to share with you. You having an opinion and determined thought to reject or oppose me is not what is kindness or cooperation. You should hear the message, analyse it and then scrutinize and if it helps you then you have to take it or else you can forget it. There is no red pill or blue pill here. It is just a view I saw and wish to share with my country men
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 06:01 pm:       

Driver science proving god is also funny, there are many atheists and Buddhism has world wide following, because some have driven away buddhism and try to keep telling people follow blind faith is something happening from millennia. The sapta rishis didn't go to any god or hanuman didn't go to God. Budhha scanned the entire universe when he got enlightenmented and didn't find god although he saw longer duration of life span beings. Even the 14 lokas as per hinduism has gods who will also expired after some time, Jainism also is atheistic. Astrology is but unnecessary is already mentioned by buddha. If majority in this db don't have interest fine, still some minority are interested. Same also outside. The teachings go to those interested.

Beating people is same as those invaders who destroyed temples and monasteries and libraries. That shows weakness of themselves.

Then Ven. Punna went to the Blessed One and on arrival, having bowed down to the Blessed One, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One, "It would be good if the Blessed One would teach me the Dhamma in brief so that, having heard the Dhamma from the Blessed One, I might dwell alone in seclusion: heedful, ardent, & resolute."

"There are, Punna, forms cognizable via the eye — agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing, fostering desire, enticing. If a monk relishes them, welcomes them, and remains fastened to them, then in him — relishing them, welcoming them, and remaining fastened to them — there arises delight. From the origination of delight, I tell you, comes the origination of suffering and stress.

"There are sounds cognizable via the ear... aromas cognizable by the nose... flavors cognizable via the tongue... tactile sensations cognizable via the body...

"There are ideas cognizable via the intellect — agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing, fostering desire, enticing. If a monk relishes them, welcomes them, and remains fastened to them, then in him — relishing them, welcoming them, and remaining fastened to them — there arises delight. From the origination of delight, I tell you, comes the origination of suffering and stress.

"There are forms cognizable via the eye — agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing, fostering desire, enticing. If a monk does not relish them, welcome them, or remain fastened to them, then in him — not relishing them, not welcoming them, not remaining fastened to them — there arises no delight. From the cessation of delight, I tell you, comes the cessation of suffering and stress.

"There are sounds cognizable via the ear... aromas cognizable by the nose... flavors cognizable via the tongue... tactile sensations cognizable via the body...

"There are ideas cognizable via the intellect — agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing, fostering desire, enticing. If a monk does not relish them, welcome them, or remain fastened to them, then in him — not relishing them, not welcoming them, not remaining fastened to them — there arises no delight. From the cessation of delight, I tell you, comes the cessation of suffering and stress. {By this means, Punna, you are not far from this doctrine and discipline."

When this was said, a certain monk said to the Blessed One, "Here is where I am ill at ease, lord, for I don't discern, as they actually are present, the origination, the passing away, the allure, the drawback, and the escape from the six spheres of contact."

"Then what do you think, monk. Do you regard that 'The eye is not mine. It is not my self. It is not what I am'?"

"Yes, lord."

"Very good, monk. When it is well-seen by you with right discernment that 'The eye is not mine. It is not my self. It is not what I am,' then the first sphere of contact will be abandoned by you, for the sake of no further becoming in the future.

"Do you regard that 'The ear is not mine... The nose is not mine... The tongue is not mine... The body is not mine...

"Do you regard that 'The intellect is not mine. It is not my self. It is not what I am'?"

"Yes, lord."

"Very good, monk. When it is well-seen by you with right discernment that 'The intellect is not mine. It is not my self. It is not what I am,' then the sixth sphere of contact will be abandoned by you, for the sake of no further becoming in the future.}

"Well then, Punna. Now that I have instructed you with a brief instruction, in which country are you going to live?"

"Lord, there is a country called Sunaparanta. I am going to live there."

"Punna, the Sunaparanta people are fierce. They are rough. If they insult and ridicule you, what will you think?"

"If they insult and ridicule me, I will think, 'These Sunaparanta people are civilized, very civilized, in that they don't hit me with their hands.' That is what I will think, O Blessed One. That is what I will think, O One Well-gone."

"But if they hit you with their hands, what will you think?"

"...I will think, 'These Sunaparanta people are civilized, very civilized, in that they don't hit me with a clod.'..."

"But if they hit you with a clod...?"

"...I will think, 'These Sunaparanta people are civilized, very civilized, in that they don't hit me with a stick.'..."

"But if they hit you with a stick...?"

"...I will think, 'These Sunaparanta people are civilized, very civilized, in that they don't hit me with a knife.'..."

"But if they hit you with a knife...?"

"...I will think, 'These Sunaparanta people are civilized, very civilized, in that they don't take my life with a sharp knife.'..."

"But if they take your life with a sharp knife...?"

"If they take my life with a sharp knife, I will think, 'There are disciples of the Blessed One who — horrified, humiliated, and disgusted by the body and by life — have sought for an assassin, but here I have met my assassin without searching for him.' [1] That is what I will think, O Blessed One. That is what I will think, O One Well-gone."

"Good, Punna, very good. Possessing such calm and self-control you are fit to dwell among the Sunaparantans. Now it is time to do as you see fit."

Then Ven. Punna, delighting and rejoicing in the Blessed One's words, rising from his seat, bowed down to the Blessed One and left, keeping him on his right side. Setting his dwelling in order and taking his robe and bowl, he set out for the Sunaparanta country and, after wandering stage by stage, he arrived there. There he lived. During that Rains retreat he established 500 male and 500 female lay followers in the practice, while he realized the three knowledges and then attained total (final) Unbinding.

Then a large number of monks went to the Blessed One and on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As they were sitting there, they said to him, "Lord, the clansman named Punna, whom the Blessed One instructed with a brief instruction, has died. What is his destination? What is his future state?"

"Monks, the clansman Punna was wise. He practiced the Dhamma in accordance with the Dhamma and did not pester me with issues related to the Dhamma. The clansman Punna is totally unbound."
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 04:13 pm:       


Spacemac:

Vishvak, meeranta usa lona undedi, ikkada evaru lera. Brahmam bro mention about db people in india in Ongole, nellore, hyd etc, I've seen the  Buddha, and my doubts Are all dispelled, my fears are allayed, Idi vintey gita annatle anipistund




dont expect even the guys in India to meet you, they may beat you up if get irritated...
by the way, I am in India, bangalore...dont expect me
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:56 pm:       


Driverramudu:

Thats what I am about to tell Spacemac




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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:55 pm:       


Emc2:




based on science too we can prove god parcticle exists

most of non-believers are half knowledge or limited knowledgable ppl
Driving is my PASSION.
Ball or Bimmer does not matter.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:49 pm:       


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Thats what I am about to tell Spacemac

Just because you dont see physically a god
you dont hear from a god

that does not mean a god particle does not exists

God particle exists for sure. Non-believers living in illusion
Driving is my PASSION.
Ball or Bimmer does not matter.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:45 pm:       


Driverramudu:




Your understanding about senses is wrong

There are lot of creatures live successfully with our ears and eyes

Same with humans, there is budhi , with out any of these you can achive higher energies
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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:27 pm:       


Spacemac:

You believe in a god nobody saw, no god saved us from any of us




If I close my eyes I dont see any thing
If I damage my ears I dont hear any thing

so can I assume in this visible universe me only existing?
as I dont see any one
and I dont hear any one.

Based on the science it is proved I did not see any one and I dont hear either.
Driving is my PASSION.
Ball or Bimmer does not matter.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 12:38 pm:       


Spacemac:

no god saved us from any of us




you are too funny, whom did buddha saved us from, what did he do, he actually destroyed dharma with his teachings , did you saw buddha? you are a manipulators,

you don't have any answers and you bringing movie characters and trying to compare and manipulate people, i will not let this happen.
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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 12:26 pm:       

You believe in a god nobody saw, no god saved us from any of us. Buddha atleast is a man from history. You keep lying straight without shame and still seek an answer. Friends I have no heart to say bad about any sect. However I am concerned about Thanos, and wanted to share with you all about it. Whether buddhism or another, the message is for sale of peace
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 12:21 pm:       

Ippativaru lenivi unattu chupinchadani try cheyadam thappa nuvvu emincheppavu

Geetha come from Buddha antavu, Intha kante fraud emundi , you are fraudster

C antav java antav, now AI and quantum computing coming , how you compare ante no answer

Useless manipulations,
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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 12:13 pm:       

I just read jesus was a Muslim, nuvvu ippatidaaka nannu aa maata ee maata anatam tappa inkemi cheppav. Friends mana samskruti Thanos chetilloki vellpoindi ani meekedo chepdam Anukunta nu. Andukey ila roju sandharshanalu, dooshanalu. Andaram kalisunteney purogati. Thanos debbaki mullokalu kadultunnai
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 11:25 am:       


Spacemac:




Neeku nuvvu ekkuva oohinchukuntunnavu

You are going by assumptions, you don’t know the true spirituality, come
Meet me I will teach you real essence of spirituality regardless of religion ,

You are confused and have metal issues, I will help you to over come those
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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 11:05 am:       

You dont bother interruption me. You carry on with your stuff, I with mine. Buddhism is not directed to you, there are others who are interested.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 10:37 am:       


Spacemac:




Don’t feel bad, you have serious mental
Issues, trust me
You need treatment
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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:39 am:       

Vishvak, meeranta usa lona undedi, ikkada evaru lera. Brahmam bro mention about db people in india in Ongole, nellore, hyd etc, I've seen the Buddha, and my doubts Are all dispelled, my fears are allayed, Idi vintey gita annatle anipistund
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:28 am:       

Nenedo dr strange laaga buddhism dvara oke oka avakasam telsukunna bratakadaniki, adi meeto panchukundam anukuntunna, idi tappinchi naaku vere uddesame ledu, iron man Thanos gurunchi telusukuni Jarvis avi ivi evevo cheyagaligadu, but naa daggara anta saruku ledu, Andukey meto share cheskuntunna. Antaku minchi naa burra ku vere margam tattatamledu, aa solutions telistey ikkada endugu tirugitanu friends, a solutions chuttune tirigevaaduni, buddhas teachings are guide in this journey. Naakanna meelo migatavallu Inka balavantulai untaru ane abhiprayam nannu ikkada reach out avadaniki motivate chestundai
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:22 am:       


Spacemac:

Buddha has higher wisdom than god


Which god? Allah or Jesus or Krishna?

Vi veri universum vivus vici
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 01:13 am:       

Emcbro don't take my harsh words. I have brotherly feelings with all of you.
But as is nature we keep contradicting, I don't seek this at all. Nenedo ikkada batimalukuni naluguruki naa godu edo chepdam anukunna, merochi nuvvu conversion ani fraud ani, idani adiani cheptunnav. We are travelling in two different places, friends mee andariki ippatiki ardhamai untadi, nenu cheppe dantlo anta anandapade vishayam em undani. Meto naa badha cheppukuni meeku antinchinavadinavtunnanu, aina edo ekkado asa, repu malli baaguntadi ani, appudu ee kastam marchipotam ani. Aithey adi asa maatrame a leeka, meeru emanna cheyagalara anedi future e cheppali. Meeru share cheyamani chepte I will, of course in person maatrame.
 

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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2026 - 12:09 am:       

Friends I have some deep experience I want to share, whatever the Buddha says about friendship, I am always trying to be like that and I have no agenda towards Hindus or Buddhists or another. My only agenda is that you hear my experience and see if it benefits us because I came to hear of a way to be friendly towards each other and also everyone outside. Once in youth when I used to see the faction murders I too felt hurt someone from my clan were taken away. Today I see immaturity in consolidating the negetive aspects we came across with others instead of focusing on the positives. And unable to look into positives we justify ourselves with caste pride etc
 

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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 11:50 pm:       

You have no respect to the Buddha, his words or teachings, you neither have an interest to comprehend what the passages say. When the Buddha says he has no teacher, you say he has a teacher. When the Buddha says he is above gods, you say I am fraud. You have no interest nor capacity to analyse the words of the Buddha but feel very good to say all of these passages coming from buddha as junk. You are very illiterate. Not making the effort to understand others is a big let down. Because you are illiterate you can't see the answer from buddhas very own words. Worse than Upaka going his way, you block and keep saying answer me after it has already been answered. Upaka was the first to meet buddha after enlightenment but his journey in history ended there.
 

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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 11:40 pm:       


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What answers you gave. You are just copying and pasting some junk and spamming

You always have false and twisting logics, you should be ashamed by doing this in the name of Buddhism
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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 11:22 pm:       

You are the only illiterate person, for every accusations of yours I gave an answer. You neither have shame or respect. So you go about making more accusations and hope you get a response to feel alive. You have nothing to add to this world.
 

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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 11:16 pm:       

To cover your fraud you are spamming your threads so that people won’t see the logical discussion
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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 10:39 pm:       

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at Baraṇasi in the Deer Park at Isipatana. There the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus of the group of five thus:

“Bhikkhus, these two extremes should not be followed by one who has gone forth into homelessness. What two? The pursuit of sensual happiness in sensual pleasures, which is low, vulgar, the way of worldlings, ignoble, unbeneficial; and the pursuit of self-mortification, which is painful, ignoble, unbeneficial. Without veering towards either of these extremes, the Tathagata has awakened to the middle way, which gives rise to vision, which gives rise to knowledge, which leads to peace, to direct knowledge, to enlightenment, to Nibbāna.

“And what, bhikkhus, is that middle way awakened to by the Tathagata, which gives rise to vision … which leads to Nibbāna? It is this Noble Eightfold Path; that is, right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. This, bhikkhus, is that middle way awakened to by the Tathagata, which gives rise to vision, which gives rise to knowledge, which leads to peace, to direct knowledge, to enlightenment, to Nibbāna.

“Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of suffering: birth is suffering, aging is suffering, illness is suffering, death is suffering; union with what is displeasing is suffering; separation from what is pleasing is suffering; not to get what one wants is suffering; in brief, the five aggregates subject to clinging are suffering.

“Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of the origin of suffering: it is this craving which leads to renewed existence, accompanied by delight and lust, seeking delight here and there; that is, craving for sensual pleasures, craving for existence, craving for extermination.

“Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of the cessation of suffering: it is the remainderless fading away and cessation of that same craving, the giving up and relinquishing of it, freedom from it, nonreliance on it.

“Now this, bhikkhus, is the noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering: it is this Noble Eightfold Path; that is, right view … right concentration.

“‘This is the noble truth of suffering’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of suffering is to be fully understood’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of suffering has been fully understood’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This is the noble truth of the origin of suffering’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of the origin of suffering is to be abandoned’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of the origin of suffering has been abandoned’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This is the noble truth of the cessation of suffering’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of the cessation of suffering is to be realized’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of the cessation of suffering has been realized’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This is the noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering is to be developed’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“‘This noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering has been developed’: thus, bhikkhus, in regard to things unheard before, there arose in me vision, knowledge, wisdom, true knowledge, and light.

“So long, bhikkhus, as my knowledge and vision of these Four Noble Truths as they really are in their three phases and twelve aspects was not thoroughly purified in this way, I did not claim to have awakened to the unsurpassed perfect enlightenment in this world with its devas, Mara, and Brahma, in this generation with its ascetics and brahmins, its devas and humans. But when my knowledge and vision of these Four Noble Truths as they really are in their three phases and twelve aspects was thoroughly purified in this way, then I claimed to have awakened to the unsurpassed perfect enlightenment in this world with its devas, Mara, and Brahma, in this generation with its ascetics and brahmins, its devas and humans. The knowledge and vision arose in me: ‘Unshakable is the liberation of my mind. This is my last birth. Now there is no more renewed existence.’”

This is what the Blessed One said. Elated, the bhikkhus of the group of five delighted in the Blessed One’s statement. And while this discourse was being spoken, there arose in the Venerable Kondañña the dust-free, stainless vision of the Dhamma: “Whatever is subject to origination is all subject to cessation.”

And when the Wheel of the Dhamma had been set in motion by the Blessed One, the earth-dwelling devas raised a cry: “At Baraṇasi, in the Deer Park at Isipatana, this unsurpassed Wheel of the Dhamma has been set in motion by the Blessed One, which cannot be stopped by any ascetic or brahmin or deva or Mara or Brahma or by anyone in the world.” Having heard the cry of the earth-dwelling devas, the devas of the realm of the Four Great Kings raised a cry: “At Baraṇasi … this unsurpassed Wheel of the Dhamma has been set in motion by the Blessed One, which cannot be stopped … by anyone in the world.” Having heard the cry of the devas of the realm of the Four Great Kings, the Tavatiṁsa devas … the Yama devas … the Tusita devas … the Nimmanarati devas … the Paranimmitavasavatti devas … the devas of Brahma’s company raised a cry: “At Baraṇasi, in the Deer Park at Isipatana, this unsurpassed Wheel of the Dhamma has been set in motion by the Blessed One, which cannot be stopped by any ascetic or brahmin or deva or Mara or Brahma or by anyone in the world.”

Thus at that moment, at that instant, at that second, the cry spread as far as the brahma world, and this ten thousandfold world system shook, quaked, and trembled, and an immeasurable glorious radiance appeared in the world surpassing the divine majesty of the devas.

Then the Blessed One uttered this inspired utterance: “Koṇḍañña has indeed understood! Koṇḍañña has indeed understood!” In this way the Venerable Koṇḍañña acquired the name “Añña Koṇḍañña—Koṇḍañña Who Has Understood.”
 

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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 10:38 pm:       

Four Great Kings raised a cry: “At Baraṇasi … this unsurpassed Wheel of the Dhamma has been set in motion by the Blessed One, which cannot be stopped … by anyone in the world.” Having heard the cry of the devas of the realm of the Four Great Kings, the Tavatiṁsa devas … the Yama devas … the Tusita devas … the Nimmanarati devas … the Paranimmitavasavatti devas … the devas of Brahma’s company raised a cry: “At Baraṇasi, in the Deer Park at Isipatana, this unsurpassed Wheel of the Dhamma has been set in motion by the Blessed One, which cannot be stopped by any ascetic or brahmin or deva or Mara or Brahma or by anyone in the world.”

Thus at that moment, at that instant, at that second, the cry spread as far as the brahma world, and this ten thousandfold world system shook, quaked, and trembled, and an immeasurable glorious radiance appeared in the world surpassing the divine majesty of the devas.

Then the Blessed One uttered this inspired utterance: “Koṇḍañña has indeed understood! Koṇḍañña has indeed understood!” In this way the Venerable Koṇḍañña acquired the name “Añña Koṇḍañña—Koṇḍañña Who Has Understood.”
 

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Then, having stayed at Uruvela as long as I liked, I set out to wander by stages to Varanasi. Upaka the Ajivaka saw me on the road between Gaya and the (place of) Awakening, and on seeing me said to me, 'Clear, my friend, are your faculties. Pure your complexion, and bright. On whose account have you gone forth? Who is your teacher? In whose Dhamma do you delight?'

"When this was said, I replied to Upaka the Ajivaka in verses:


'All-vanquishing,
all-knowing am I,
with regard to all things,
unadhering.
All-abandoning,
released in the ending of craving:
having fully known on my own,
to whom should I point as my teacher? [4]

I have no teacher,
and one like me can't be found.
In the world with its devas,
I have no counterpart.

For I am an arahant in the world;
I, the unexcelled teacher.
I, alone, am rightly self-awakened.
Cooled am I, unbound.

To set rolling the wheel of Dhamma
I go to the city of Kasi.
In a world become blind,
I beat the drum of the Deathless.'
"'From your claims, my friend, you must be an infinite conqueror.'


'Conquerors are those like me
who have reached fermentations' end.
I've conquered evil qualities,
and so, Upaka, I'm a conqueror.'
"When this was said, Upaka said, 'May it be so, my friend,' and — shaking his head, taking a side-road — he left.
 

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Digitalspy:




Buddha’s teachers are Hindu

His practices are Hindu, his meditation method is Hindu

His enlightenment is Hindu, this spaceman guy is narcissistic, he is portraying him self as spiritual guru , fraud
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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 09:55 pm:       


Emc2:


Answer undadu, sollu esthadu chudu, he is a fraud



leni demand create cheyyadaaniki try chestunnaadu. Budhism was never relevant.
Budhist countries ye budhism ni follow avvatledu
 

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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2026 - 09:53 pm:       

you did not disclose the amount a person gets, for converting people.
Expenses will be reimbursed or not ?
 

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higher wisdom than God !!

where does this come from ?




Answer undadu, sollu esthadu chudu, he is a fraud
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if budha was so powerful, why dalai lama is hiding ?
 

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higher wisdom than God !!

where does this come from ?
 

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Sakka's praises reported by Pañcasikha
Once Pañcasikha, a celestial musician, messenger, and attendant on the deva planes, appeared before the Buddha. He reported that Sakka, king of the gods of the Thirty-three, especially honored the following qualities of the Buddha and his teaching:

1. The Lord has striven out of compassion for beings, like no other teacher they can find.
2. The doctrine he teaches is "well proclaimed by the Blessed One, visible here and now, immediately effective, inviting inspection, onward leading, to be experienced by the wise for themselves."

3. He distinguishes and proclaims what is good and what is bad.

4. He explains the path to Nibbana.

5. He has taught beings to become learners (i.e., stream-enterers, once-returners, and non-returners) and arahants.

6. Gifts to the Buddha are well-given (because they bear great fruit) and are accepted by him without any conceit.

7. He practices what he teaches and teaches what he practices. There are absolutely no contradictions between his verbal and physical actions.

8. The Lord has gone beyond all doubt and accomplished his aim in regard to the goal and the supreme holy life.
 

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Sakka's questions
Sakka, king of the devas in the heaven of the Thirty-three, played many roles in the Buddha's mission. He attended on the Bodhisatta at his final birth and at the Great Renunciation, visited the Buddha under the Bodhi Tree, and several times proclaimed his confidence in his unique qualities. A discourse called Sakka's Questions (DN 21) took place after he had been a serious disciple of the Buddha for some time. The sutta records a long audience he had with the Blessed One which culminated in his attainment of stream-entry. Their conversation is an excellent example of the Buddha as "teacher of devas," and shows all beings how to work for Nibbana. For these reasons we will study Sakka's Questions in depth to see what message it has for us today.[7]

From his vantage point in the Tavatimsa plane, Sakka was a keen observer of the behavior of humans and other beings. He saw that while beings would like to live with each other peacefully, they rarely succeed. Thus his opening question to the Buddha attempted to unravel this contradiction:

"By what fetters, sir, are beings bound — gods, humans, asuras, nagas, gandhabbas, and whatever other kinds there may be — whereby, although they wish to live without hate, harming, hostility or malignity, and in peace, they yet live in hate, harming one another, hostile and malign?"
The Buddha explained that two mental factors — jealousy and avarice — cause all this trouble; from these two qualities almost all the aggression in the world arises. In this way the Buddha began a step-by-step lesson in Buddhist psychology: causes and conditions govern everything that happens in the universe. Sakka next asked about the origin of jealousy and avarice. Behind jealousy and avarice, the Buddha said, lie liking and disliking, and the source of both liking and disliking is desire.

As this is such a basic problem, Sakka wanted to understand even more deeply the causes of desire. The Buddha told him that desire is triggered by thinking. Although he did not specify what sort of thinking, he must have been referring to unsystematic mental activity, the random thoughts in which the untrained mind indulges. When Sakka asked about the cause of thinking, the Buddha said it is the "tendency to mental proliferation." This is what brings about random thinking, which leads to desire, which in turn culminates in like and dislike. These in turn condition jealousy and avarice, from which arise the conflicts in our daily lives.

Sakka next shifted to a more directly practical issue: "How does one destroy this sequence that leads to so much misery?" He requested the Buddha to explain what should be done to eliminate this tendency to endless proliferation of mental activity. The Buddha replied that one should not blindly follow after every feeling that arises in the mind. Rather, meditators should pursue a feeling — whether it be a pleasant, painful, or neutral one — only if doing so contributes to the growth of wholesome qualities. If we are alert to our reactions and see that pursuing a feeling strengthens unwholesome tendencies, then we should relinquish that feeling. We will not get carried away by desire for more enjoyable feelings or by aversion towards pain and unhappiness.

Sakka once again was very appreciative of the Buddha's words and he next asked more specifically about the practice of bhikkhus. The deva knew that monks practice the Dhamma to the highest degree, in the purest form. As a god he could not become a monk, but he wanted to discover how monks acquire the restraint required by the monastic disciplinary code. The Buddha replied that the good bhikkhu pursues only bodily conduct, conversation, and goals which are conducive to the growth of wholesome qualities, to the attainment of Nibbana. He rigorously restrains himself from everything detrimental to these aims.

Sakka had one more question about mind training: "How do bhikkhus control their senses?" Again the Buddha spoke of avoiding whatever leads to evil while cultivating the positive, this time referring to all kinds of objects — forms, sounds, odors, tastes, tactile objects, and ideas. This is a basic Dhamma theme: always avoid unwholesome actions while one works to create wholesome kamma.

Sakka wanted to take full advantage of his lengthy audience with the Blessed One, so he embarked on another series of queries. These deal with the variety of religious teachers he had seen in the world. Even a deva can be confused by the range of doctrines taught by "holy" people. He genuinely sought to learn: (1) if these teachers all taught the same thing, and (2) if they are all liberated. How often do we hear today, "All paths lead to the same goal," or "All spiritual teachings are the same beneath their superficial differences." But the Buddha, the Fully Self-Awakened One, replied negatively to both of Sakka's questions. He explained that spiritual teachers do not all teach the same thing because they have different perceptions of the truth. From this it logically follows that they cannot all be fully liberated.

Proclaiming where true liberation lies, the Buddha instructed Sakka that only those "who are liberated by the destruction of craving are fully proficient, freed from the bonds, perfect in the holy life." When evaluating spiritual teachers, bear in mind that liberation means destroying desire. Sakka approved of the Buddha's statement and remarked that passion pulls beings to repeated rebirth in happy or unhappy circumstances.

Sakka was so at ease with his Teacher that he then related a story which shows an unexpected aspect of deity-human relationships. Long ago he had gone to various human ascetics for advice on these matters with utterly unilluminating results. None of the yogis that Sakka had hoped to learn from had told him anything. In fact, as soon as they realized he was the king of the devas, one and all decided to become his disciples. Ironically, Sakka found himself in the awkward position of having to tell them what little Dhamma he understood at the time. They had no teachings to give him.

Sakka had been delighted with this whole conversation. He declared that it had given him a unique happiness and satisfaction "conducive to dispassion, detachment, cessation, peace, higher knowledge, enlightenment, Nibbana." This was the direction he had longed to travel, literally for ages. He had at last made substantial progress with the guidance of the Blessed One.

Inviting Sakka to delve further into his mental processes, the Buddha then asked him what thoughts contribute to this great satisfaction. In his final reply, Sakka declared he was joyful because he foresaw six facts about his future: (1) As king of the devas he had gained "fresh potency of life." (2) At the end of this life, he would mindfully choose where to be reborn, in a human or higher realm. (3) In that future life too, he would follow the Buddha-Dhamma with wisdom, clear comprehension, and mindfulness. (4) He might attain arahantship in that existence. (5) But if not, he would become a non-returner (anagami) and, after dying there, be reborn in the highest Pure Abode. (6) Finally Sakka knew that that existence would be his last; before it ended he would become an arahant.[8]

The king of the devas then spoke a verse in gratitude to the Buddha:

"I've seen the Buddha, and my doubts
Are all dispelled, my fears are allayed,
And now to the Enlightened One I pay
Homage due, to him who's drawn the dart
Of craving, to the Buddha, peerless Lord,
Mighty hero, kinsman of the Sun!"
The sutta then indicates that Sakka gained the stainless "vision of the Dhamma" by which he became a stream-enterer. All his uncertainties about the path to final awakening had been dispelled by the Buddha's masterly replies to his questions, and his own past merits bore their proper fruit.

There is another discourse with Sakka as questioner (MN 37). It is set later on, at the monastery built by the woman lay devotee Visakha for the Buddha in Savatthi. This time Sakka asked the Buddha: "How in brief is a bhikkhu liberated by the destruction of craving... one who is foremost among gods and humans?"

In reply, the Buddha summarized the sequence that leads a bhikkhu to liberation:

"A bhikkhu has heard that nothing is worth adhering to. When a bhikkhu has heard that nothing is worth adhering to, he directly knows everything... he fully understands everything... whatever feeling he feels, whether pleasant or painful or neither-painful-nor-pleasant, he abides contemplating impermanence in those feelings, contemplating fading away, contemplating cessation, contemplating relinquishment. Contemplating thus, he does not cling to anything in the world. When he does not cling he is not agitated... he personally attains Nibbana. He understands 'Birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, what had to be done has been done, there is no more coming to any state of being.'"
The cycle of dependent origination (paticca-samuppada) explains that contact leads to feeling which in turn conditions craving, and craving causes clinging, which leads to rebirth and suffering. So by contemplating feeling and by seeing it as impermanent, unsatisfactory, and non-self, the bhikkhu gives up all craving and clinging. That is Nibbana here and now. Delighted, Sakka paid respects to the Buddha and returned to the Tavatimsa deva plane

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