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Baatasari
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Post Number: 3228 Registered: 10-2018 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 01:04 pm: |
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ultimately, ilanti reasons valle.. states must take this commercial aviation for themselves.. but that poses challenges by itself - where States can use airtravel to their advantage ( they are currently using AIR-Space for such ).. so manaku capitalism, nature of biz verasi.. never will hav solution to this.. Boeing is aggressive in their pursuits... world will move on from this as well.. brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 3227 Registered: 10-2018 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 01:01 pm: |
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Commercial travel is always.. a loss making biz.. competition lo padi, Boeing had to do some poor changes to make $ on their new design.. kakkurti paddaru, and to cover up their mistakes they committed more of them.. ultimately paying the price.. brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Mahiz
Side Hero Username: Mahiz
Post Number: 3299 Registered: 10-2012 Posted From: 165.225.35.1
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:46 pm: |
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Airliner:
thanks bro for the summary .. helped me understand this issue better. IQ : 25 |
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Musafir
Junior Artist Username: Musafir
Post Number: 425 Registered: 10-2018 Posted From: 165.225.34.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 10:17 am: |
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Ballasticmissile:Agenda is one needs greater regulation for the safety of passengers....Regulation of safety, regulation in what can be done and what not.
US is one of the most regulated countries. May be next to some European regulations. Take Volkswagen emission scandal. Companies sometimes make greedy decisions. And they pay for those instances, when caught, because of regulations. |
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Ballasticmissile
Hero Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 11645 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 145.116.178.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:49 am: |
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Musafir:
no...Agenda is one needs greater regulation for the safety of passengers....Regulation of safety, regulation in what can be done and what not.... free market ani no regulation ante...cola lo uccha, burger lo penta kuda ravocchu....as no one detects till its a disaster... Capacity vundi, laziness, and uninspired life is a waste of time. YOLO kada.... But experiences is how you bring meaning to life. Worthiness should be earned with adequate efforts. |
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Airliner
Side Hero Username: Airliner
Post Number: 5801 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 173.209.48.131
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:35 am: |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/business/boeing-simulatio n-error.html During flight simulations recreating the problems with the doomed Lion Air plane, pilots discovered that they had less than 40 seconds to override an automated system on Boeing’s new jets and avert disaster. The pilots tested a crisis situation similar to what investigators suspect went wrong in the Lion Air crash in Indonesia last fall. In the tests, a single sensor failed, triggering software designed to help prevent a stall. Once that happened, the pilots had just moments to disengage the system and avoid an unrecoverable nose dive of the Boeing 737 Max, according to two people involved in the testing in recent days. they created a single point of failure.. worked around it using another single point of failure.. yet another single point of failure by not offering safety features as standard.. FAIL If you love it, you'll teach yourself. If you don't, others teach you. |
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Bhishma
Junior Artist Username: Bhishma
Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2019 Posted From: 69.248.209.232
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:29 am: |
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Donlad, FAA, and Boeing all 3 are traitor's in this issue. |
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Airliner
Side Hero Username: Airliner
Post Number: 5800 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 173.209.48.131
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:24 am: |
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Musafir:Agenda ida...
Agenda is greed and $$$$ at the expense of people safety.. If you love it, you'll teach yourself. If you don't, others teach you. |
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Airliner
Side Hero Username: Airliner
Post Number: 5799 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 173.209.48.131
Rating:  Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:23 am: |
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planes certify cheyyandra ani FAA ani pedithe allu meere chesesukondi maaku chala time padutundi ani Boeing ne certify chesukomannaru .. what a disgrace.. Ee topic meeda idea lenivallaki in nutshell this is what happened: Airbus neo mundu market loki vachindi ..started getting lots orders.. idi chusi Boeing rushed to bring new product into market cutting R&D costs/corners... 737 NG ni atu chesi itu chesi 737 MAX create chesaru .. aa body dynamics maresariki engines ni munduku protrude chesaru wing kinda.. inflight after takeoff.. aa weight imbalance valla appudappudu flight nose up ayyedi .. danni correct cheyataniki mundu oka sensor petti software code deplot chesaru.. flight paiki veltundi anipisthe nose ni kindaki automatic ga dive cheyyamani 0.6 degrees per min.. later changed it to 2.4 degrees per min.. FAA certification tho product market loki tondaraga ratalledu ani FAA vollu nuvve certify chesesko flights ani donga chethiki talam ichesaru .. comedy entante 737NG is same as 737 MAX ani certify chesesukunnaru and pitched that as savings to airlines in pilot training etc.. first incident lo faulty sensor bad valla plane nosedive and untrained pilots caught off-guard.. inflight documentation kooda ledu vallaki.. aa tarvatha dharma prabhuvulu inko sensor ichi console lo ila jaruguthundi ani chupiche system ichi aa safety features ni optional feature kinda pettaru for extra $$ .. rendo airline danni teesukoledu .. ila mistakes meeda mistakes all for $$$$$.. If you love it, you'll teach yourself. If you don't, others teach you. |
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Bhishma
Junior Artist Username: Bhishma
Post Number: 27 Registered: 03-2019 Posted From: 69.248.209.232
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:22 am: |
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It's a flaw of FAA, pilots warned about 737 max 8 & 9 ass well. But they didn't care. It's too late to talk about it. |
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Musafir
Junior Artist Username: Musafir
Post Number: 420 Registered: 10-2018 Posted From: 73.136.80.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:15 am: |
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Ballasticmissile:make in America is a disaster it seems.
Agenda ida...
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Ballasticmissile
Hero Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 11644 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 145.116.178.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:06 am: |
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/capt-sully-sullenberger-wh ere-boeing-and-the-faa-went-wrong-in-this-ugly-saga-2019-03- 19 WTF is Boeing doing?? make in America is a disaster it seems...before trump...all Boeing work is outsourced to some other country...like Japan, the country where most Boeing design work is done till 2016 Capacity vundi, laziness, and uninspired life is a waste of time. YOLO kada.... But experiences is how you bring meaning to life. Worthiness should be earned with adequate efforts. |
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Ballasticmissile
Hero Username: Ballasticmissile
Post Number: 11643 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 145.116.178.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:02 am: |
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without effective leadership and support from political leaders in the administration, the FAA does not have sufficient independence to be able to do its job, which is to keep air travelers and crews safe. Oversight must mean accountability, or it means nothing. ‘Boeing, in developing the 737 Max 8, obviously felt intense competitive pressure to get the new aircraft to market as quickly as possible.’ Boeing, in developing the 737 Max 8, obviously felt intense competitive pressure to get the new aircraft to market as quickly as possible. When flight testing revealed an issue with meeting the certification standards, they developed a fix, Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS), but did not tell airline pilots about it. In mitigating one risk, they seem to have created another, greater risk. After the crash of Lion Air 610 last October, it was apparent that this new risk needed to be effectively addressed. It has been reported that Boeing pushed back in discussions with the FAA about the extent of changes that would be required, and after the second crash, of Ethiopian 302, the Boeing CEO reached out to the U.S. President to try to keep the 737 Max 8 from being grounded in the U.S. The new fix still has not been fielded, nearly five months after Lion Air. It almost certainly could have been done sooner, and should have been. Boeing has focused on trying to protect its product and defend its stance, but the best way, indeed the only way, to really protect one’s brand or product is to protect the people who use it. We must not forget that the basis of business, what makes business possible, is trust.}} Capacity vundi, laziness, and uninspired life is a waste of time. YOLO kada.... But experiences is how you bring meaning to life. Worthiness should be earned with adequate efforts. |