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Musafir
Junior Artist Username: Musafir
Post Number: 215 Registered: 10-2018 Posted From: 73.136.80.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 10:17 am: |
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Nyk:
I didn't see it in India but MS time, same caste in some apartments along with TAs, GAs going to their clan. Discrimination per se, didn't see anything. Only favoritism. But I heard about Siddhartha college from a cousin. He was part of NC. |
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Telugu_times
Legend Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 55223 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 10:15 am: |
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Nice:Sollu sollu sollu
US lo rape chamakku kooda undhaa, aa article lo wow I missed it CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi |
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Telugu_times
Legend Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 55219 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:52 am: |
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Bunty717:nen US lo mana ccdb lo tappa casetee disco open ga ekkada chudaledu
ezzatly CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi |
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Nyk
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Post Number: 5468 Registered: 04-2018 Posted From: 223.182.17.201
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:50 am: |
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Musafir:
Actually this culture was not prevalent in Seema private colleges... But in govt colleges where people from coastal also represent, there exists this culture... I got to know that dot C, dot R, SC and ST get-togethers in JNTU Atp. |
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Nyk
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Post Number: 5467 Registered: 04-2018 Posted From: 223.182.14.42
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:48 am: |
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Musafir:
Actually this culture was not prevalent in Seema private colleges... But in govt colleges where people from coastal also represent, there exists this culture... I got to know that dot C, dot R, SC and ST get-togethers in JNTU Atp. |
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Nice
Megastar Username: Nice
Post Number: 24257 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 27.59.187.100
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:45 am: |
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Nyk:Meshram tells another story more traumatic than being shunned. Not long after she arrived at the college, she says she was raped by an upper caste Indian student. There is no doubt in her mind that caste motivated the assault. �From the very first day, how he behaved towards me was a kind of behavior that you observe landlords behaving towards the women who work in their fields, the Dalit women, especially, who work in their fields � which is an attitude of ownership and entitlement over their bodies and their time and their labor,� she says.
Sollu sollu sollu |
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Bunty717
Legend Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 58894 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 174.225.2.105
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:43 am: |
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nen US lo mana ccdb lo tappa casetee disco open ga ekkada chudaledu |
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Bunty717
Legend Username: Bunty717
Post Number: 58893 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 174.225.2.105
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:35 am: |
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Nyk:
first srticle.. buss nen vinale chufale US varuku |
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Telugu_times
Legend Username: Telugu_times
Post Number: 55217 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 99.0.30.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:30 am: |
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Nyk:That has not been the experience of Preeti Meshram, a Dalit woman who lives in the Northeast. She did not provide her real name because she is afraid of reprisals from upper caste Hindus. Some identifying details of her story have been omitted. Meshram came to the United States, against her family's wishes, to earn a doctorate at a New England college. She said she thought life would be better in this country, but she quickly encountered the same kind of discrimination she had experienced in India
Total B.S US lo Ph.D chesina candidate ni, migatha desi gaallu discriminating aa? bongem gaadhu? CCDB - Caste Chemchas Discussion Baavi |
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Musafir
Junior Artist Username: Musafir
Post Number: 214 Registered: 10-2018 Posted From: 73.136.80.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 09:08 am: |
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Coincidence. Just read this post. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1015679531023104 1&id=725991040 |
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Musafir
Junior Artist Username: Musafir
Post Number: 213 Registered: 10-2018 Posted From: 73.136.80.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 06:34 am: |
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Emc2:Very common
Vivarimpudi please. |
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Emc2
Legend Username: Emc2
Post Number: 73922 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 74.96.198.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 05:33 am: |
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Very common It's ok
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Nyk
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Post Number: 5448 Registered: 04-2018 Posted From: 27.59.204.244
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 04:55 am: |
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Did anyone face the moozik in the US |
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Nyk
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Post Number: 5447 Registered: 04-2018 Posted From: 27.59.204.244
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 04:54 am: |
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https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-03-08/us-isn-t-safe-trauma- caste-bias?amp This article is part three of the "Caste in America" series. Read parts one and two. This series was supported with funding from the Pulitzer Center and produced in partnership with WGBH. Dalits from India, formerly known as âUntouchables,â say the caste system and the perception of Dalits as the lowest of the low have followed them to America. The stigma attached to caste â the traditional religious and social hierarchy of Hinduism â is so deep that most Indians in the country, especially Dalits, refuse to talk about it. Dalits who do talk about it say the kind of caste-based discrimination and violence that erupts in India exists in the US, as well. A 2018 survey of 1,200 individuals of South Asian descent in the United States found that 26 percent said they had experienced a physical assault because of their caste, while 59 percent reported caste-based derogatory jokes or remarks directed at them. More than half said they were afraid of being outed as Dalit. The survey is the only one of its kind ever done. A 2018 survey found that 59 percent of surveyed individuals of South Asian descent reported caste-based derogatory jokes or remarks directed at them. In 2003, only 1.5 percent of Indian immigrants in the United States were Dalits or members of lower castes, according to the Center for the Advanced Study of India at the University of Pennsylvania. More than 90 percent were from high or dominant castes. About 2.5 million people of Indian descent live in the US, including those born here. Upper caste Hindu leaders suggest problems with caste bias are confined to recent immigrants, rather than US-born Indian Americans, or deny that any institutional discrimination against Dalits occurs in America. That has not been the experience of Preeti Meshram, a Dalit woman who lives in the Northeast. She did not provide her real name because she is afraid of reprisals from upper caste Hindus. Some identifying details of her story have been omitted. âEvery time I speak to someone, they have these deep, personal and traumatic stories and actually have no way of telling them because they are so scared,â Meshram says of many Dalits in America. âI understand that fear. Itâs a fear of like, âWeâre supposed to be good here and if we canât be good here, then where can we be at peace?â And so there are tendencies to hide it and not talk about it, just pretend that everything is going okay.â Related: Even with a Harvard pedigree, caste follows âlike a shadowâ Meshram came to the United States, against her familyâs wishes, to earn a doctorate at a New England college. She said she thought life would be better in this country, but she quickly encountered the same kind of discrimination she had experienced in India. âAnd they went around the room with each person saying what their caste was and they skipped over me because they felt so uncomfortable to ask me that question because they just knew I was from a lower caste.â Preeti Meshram, a Dalit woman who lives in the US âWe were at these parties with all the newly-admitted kids from India, and everybody just went around the room asking each other, like, 'Whatâs your caste?' And 90 percent of the people in that room were Brahmins, except for me and one other student, who was also upper caste,â Meshram recalls. âAnd they went around the room with each person saying what their caste was and they skipped over me because they felt so uncomfortable to ask me that question because they just knew I was from a lower caste.â Asking fellow students their caste, Dalits say, establishes status and hierarchy within the community. Doing so often means that a Dalit or lower caste person will be isolated from upper caste peers. Related: Does America have a caste system? Meshram tells another story more traumatic than being shunned. Not long after she arrived at the college, she says she was raped by an upper caste Indian student. There is no doubt in her mind that caste motivated the assault. âFrom the very first day, how he behaved towards me was a kind of behavior that you observe landlords behaving towards the women who work in their fields, the Dalit women, especially, who work in their fields â which is an attitude of ownership and entitlement over their bodies and their time and their labor,â she says. When Meshram told her upper caste roommate what had happened, the woman scoffed at her in disbelief. Traumatized and with no moral support, Meshram did not report the assault, which cannot be independently verified. The survey released in Cambridge, Massachusetts, last March also contains personal anecdotes about discrimination and isolation at schools, workplaces, temples and within communities. A US based Dalit-led research organization called Equality Labs conducted the online survey. "... when we finally got the numbers from our survey, we were just utterly shocked.â Thenmozhi Soundararajan, executive director of Equality Labs âIt establishes without any question that caste truly does operate in American institutions across the country,â says Thenmozhi Soundararajan, a Dalit activist who is executive director of Equality Labs. âWhile we'd always had anecdotal information ⦠when we finally got the numbers from our survey, we were just utterly shocked.â The survey was anonymous and not based on a random sample. Some Indian American leaders have criticized its methods and findings. For instance, Suhag Shukla, executive director of the Hindu American Foundation in Washington, DC, questions whether generational differences were taken into account. âWere these people who had been in the country for only five years, meaning they had just recently come from India, and may have carried over certain social stigma or baggage and were continuing to live their lives through that lens?â Shukla asks. âOr was it someone like me, who was born and raised here, for whom caste is not relevant?â A woman stands in front of shelves in an office Suhag Shukla, co-founder and executive director of the Hindu American Foundation, says the organization condemns discrimination across the board, but suggests that what some call casteism in the United States may be overblown. Credit: Phillip Martin/WGBH News As the number of Dalit and lower caste people grows in the United States, they are beginning to assert their rights and raise their voices. At the World Hindu Congress in Chicago last September, a group of Dalit activists disrupted a session to protest what they saw as the Brahmin superiority of the event and the presence of extremist Hindu leaders, including Mohan Bhagwat, leader of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, an extremist Hindu group in India. The women protesters were attacked and spat on by attendees. S.P. Kothari, chairman of the World Hindu Congress and a professor of accounting and finance at MITâs Sloan School of Management, denies that Hindus are socially or politically divided by caste in the United States. âIs there any institutional or is there an organizational or religious way to try and drive a wedge between the Dalits and the upper castes? And the answer is categorically no,â Kothari says. âWe certainly would not want anyone to be mistreated, and I also think that the social approach is important to complement the legislative approach that we observe.â Related: Indians in America adrift from caste Dalits interviewed by WGBH News or surveyed by Equality Labs indicated they do not inhabit such a comfortable, accepting space when among others of Indian descent. Kanishka Elupula, an Indian working on his doctorate at Harvard University, expressed a sense of Dalit pride. âWhen Iâm at Harvard I actually want to be recognized as an 'Untouchable,' because I want people to know.â Kanishka Elupula, doctoral student at Harvard University âWhen Iâm at Harvard I actually want to be recognized as an 'Untouchable,' because I want people to know,â Elupula says. But despite how proud he is of his success, Elupula is reluctant to openly talk about his caste on campus. âMy achievement is that I happen to be somebody who was beaten up and abused and made to feel like crap because I come from this caste. So the fact that Iâm an 'Untouchable' and Iâm here is what I want people to recognize,â he says. âBut then again, I donât want to go around telling people. So like I said, I have not been forthright about my caste. Itâs not that Iâve actively tried to hide it, which kind of shows that there is still that stigma, thereâs that worry that Iâll be found out and thought that Iâm somehow inferior," he says. âThatâs kind of seeped into an almost subconscious level now ... because Iâve seen so many times when you talk about it and thatâs it," Elupula says. "The conversation usually ends there, and then people start avoiding you or they see you as not reasonable when you support the causes you support,â like affirmative action for Dalits and lower caste people in India. Related: Love conquers caste for this couple, but Indian marriage traditions continue in US This kind of internal conflict is not uncommon among many Dalits living in America. They are proud that despite generational discrimination back in India, they have escaped to this country. But they worry that by exposing themselves as a lower caste person they will face derision or isolation from upper caste communities. Not talking about their caste is just one way to avoid facing discrimination in America, said Jaspreet Mahal, a researcher at Brandeis University who is married to a University of Massachusetts Boston doctoral student who belongs to the Dalit community. âItâs exclusion and itâs self-exclusion,â Mahal said. âWe wonât go to a place where we feel we wonât be comfortable, or [where] we cannot speak our minds. So in that sense, we stick to the community whom we are comfortable with. My husband likes to call it âpolitics of silence.ââ This article is part three of the âCaste in Americaâ series. Read parts one and two. |
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