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Baatasari
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Post Number: 2390 Registered: 10-2018
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 12:49 pm: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:
if it is to be,its upto us.. and i will start the concept atleast..  brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Jambalahaart_raja
Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 9422 Registered: 07-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 12:06 pm: |
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Baatasari:i cant do much to change your impression of my conviction..
No other questions, so I wasn't sure I was able to get through.
Baatasari:any info is still info..
The very first problem of a Tech Startup, is that every member of the Core Team / Organization will take it emotionally as their brain-child, and demand their due-share, voice-be-heard, the typical EQ challenges. If Exit Strategy is the only motive, Quality will compromise. In fact, nijangaa Exit Strategy ye motive ayithey, anything and everything can be sold, so long as we figure out how to sell things. The main challenge of any business is that there is an existing market, and you are going to be the next producer / supplier, and have to grab your fair-share of the existing evenly distributed market-share by the existing businesses. Or, you are creating an entirely new innovative market altogether, and must have the plan and resilience to sustain a strong competition from new businesses doing the same thing, trying to gain an even market-share in your business. You are the result of 3.5 million years of evolutionary improvement and advancement. Use some of it. Live up to it. |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 2383 Registered: 10-2018
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 11:05 am: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:It appears, you are unconvinced!!
i cant do much to change your impression of my conviction.. i do see.. you wrote a lot, but i got the gist of what you are saying - 90$/hr to 150$/hr .. so ballpark 50K investment ( Enigmatic ) gives me 500hrs / 13 weeks of time to market for an app.. if i do the dev myself.. save on the $, stretch on the time.. profitability cheppaledu.. final ga thanks cheppa.. any info is still info.. brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Jambalahaart_raja
Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 9421 Registered: 07-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 11:00 am: |
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Baatasari:Thanks man !
It appears, you are unconvinced!! You are the result of 3.5 million years of evolutionary improvement and advancement. Use some of it. Live up to it. |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 2376 Registered: 10-2018
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 07:34 am: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:
Thanks man ! brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Jambalahaart_raja
Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 9420 Registered: 07-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 06:56 pm: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:Cost is inversely proportional to the remaining three
Sorry, Cost goes up when any or all the other three go up... I had meant to delete the "inversely" word there... But you get the gist. You are the result of 3.5 million years of evolutionary improvement and advancement. Use some of it. Live up to it. |
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Jambalahaart_raja
Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 9419 Registered: 07-2008
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 06:49 pm: |
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Baatasari:Biz Model => Revenues
I was commuting, so took time to respond after reaching home. Concept -> To Start -> to Completion -> To going User facing -> Advertising and Marketing -> Revenues. That complete stream depends on 4 factors -> Quality, Cost, Time and Labor. Cost is inversely proportional to the remaining three, with Quality taking highest priority for best ROI. Although, the very first question to ask oneself is - who's the target market / audience? Weekly once a brand new app is advertised in NY Metro trains lights and interior hoardings. From Medical Insurance, to Prescription Medication to Queens and Bronx based merchandising and/or Services. People build a career on that very basic question - Biz Model to Revenues. Having said that, a Mobile App is nothing but a Micro-Service that is front-foremost User Facing, User-Interactive and defines the Brand and User Experience. The App is not the Biz Model. iOS and Android Apps should not be regarded as a Revenue Generation model. The Biz Model is on the Server, the Cloud, may be even TensorFlow like AI infra. The Apps are light-weight with data presentation, heavy-weight with Data Gathering, and thick-rich-end-client UI Presentation in terms of Animations, Graphics, and all of the Bells, Whistles and Jingles. Name any app that is used every day, every week, every month - The App is doing nothing literally. Everything's happening in the Cloud. As far as Labor goes, like in the show - Silicon Valley, either the Lead / Would-be CEO churns out the best quality output in 0 Time, or a group of Investors with a good Idea can hire a Third-Party Implementation Partner. But there are always other challenges - Product Managers who define each and every tiny little aspect of the entire System, and Project Managers / Scrum Masters that track the metrics and pace, and suggest alternatives for quick adaptability for Time-to-enter-Market deadlines etc etc. All in all, the Cost-to-enter-Market would end-up one-and-the-same either ways, do it yourself or hire and monitor. Do it yourself is cheaper, if your Labor is Highly Skilled above the Upper-end of the Tech Spectrum, from Product and UI/UX Decisions to what Tech/Language to use. The Revenues will come automatically, for the most part as an Exit Strategy. Let me give an example - Google Maps still doesn't have the Postman-Route solution algo in their Directions feature. A former Colleague of mine developed it himself, on top of Google Maps integration as a standalone App. feed in multiple addresses at once, and the App automatically optimizes the routes based on distance and average slow-down based on traffic such as signals etc, but his Revenues were nothing. Nobody needs that kind of an Optimization every time they are traveling from Point-A to Point-B. A German company offered some $200K finally, this was 5 years ago. TLDR; A nominal number to begin calculating overall cost would be $90 per person per hour in the Organization. If you want to go frugal and in-house completely, a $45 per person per hour should help kick-start estimates. A $150 per person per hour if you hire and want the Idea to go out quickly. Advertising and Marketing is additional. Including other ads using Google Ads services in your UI is cheap, and adds to Revenues in the long-run as the Product eventually gains wider acceptance. Overall Revenues, everybody just want a quarter of New York Population to spend just $2 just once in the next 3 months, and that's sufficient for an Exit Strategy literally. You are the result of 3.5 million years of evolutionary improvement and advancement. Use some of it. Live up to it. |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 2374 Registered: 10-2018
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 03:58 pm: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:
Biz Model => Revenues( say for a small Financial app, showing Exchange data ) , Time to market, Profitability - assuming we have an idea today.. please let me know your ballpark numbers for this.. brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Jambalahaart_raja
Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 9418 Registered: 07-2008
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 03:55 pm: |
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I am a Android Developer, 8 Years Industry, 15 years Overall Industry. Feel free to touch-base. You are the result of 3.5 million years of evolutionary improvement and advancement. Use some of it. Live up to it. |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 2373 Registered: 10-2018
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 03:47 pm: |
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Enigmatic:
thanks man brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Enigmatic
Side Hero Username: Enigmatic
Post Number: 2092 Registered: 11-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 03:44 pm: |
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Baatasari:
that was in $. no idea about in app purchases or ads. |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 2366 Registered: 10-2018
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 02:13 pm: |
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Enigmatic:first check out if some one already has an app with your idea
no.. not yet we are relatively safe on the ideas part.. do you mean 20k-50k INR ? i already developed a small App.. what does it take ani tested.. in app Ads, in app Purchases - ive 2 routes unai to pull up revenue.. any idea of the lifetime to deployment ? brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Enigmatic
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Post Number: 2091 Registered: 11-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 02:09 pm: |
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first check out if some one already has an app with your idea . usual gaa for an app on both apple/google atleast 20-50k avutundochhu based on the complexity/size. then if you need some sort of cloud infra as a backend that might add an additional cost.this is assuming you can't code it yourself. |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 2365 Registered: 10-2018
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 01:53 pm: |
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Enigmatic:
Thanks man.. i understand your friend is .. employing developers, still working for other App firms - so hes relatively off-loading the risk.. i am talking about, having an idea => deploying on AppStore making money of it, do you know typical lifecycle, enta time incubate cheyali, pitfalls, $ involved etc.. your friend's experience can still give us some insights.. ideas aite unai.. time undatledu, so i want to take time n incubate the ideas.. brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |
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Enigmatic
Side Hero Username: Enigmatic
Post Number: 2089 Registered: 11-2010
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 01:44 pm: |
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i have a friend who helps people build apps etc for small-mid business. he employs 40-50 guys in india. imo unless you have a great idea for an app it will be hard to make revenue. |
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Baatasari
Side Hero Username: Baatasari
Post Number: 2364 Registered: 10-2018
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 12:55 pm: |
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DB lo or telsina info lo.. App develop chesi AppStores lo .. firms float chesina vallu unara.. Just wanted to get info on the biz model - is this a route that is viable in long run.. TIA brahma satyam jagan-mithyä jivo brahmaiva näparah |