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Posted on Friday, July 26, 2013 - 02:06 am:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Ippudu mana hinduism lo, mulayam/dig vijay/communists type vaallanata bootstrap virus la cheripoyaru. Modi laanti anti-virus software ante chaala manadi ki kadupulo manta anduke.



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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 09:31 pm:       


Bushu:

mana Hindus key ekkada leni siggulu, bhayalu.




Answer to your question is in your answer itself. There is more. True Hinduism is secular. Kaani secular ga vunte vongo petti vaayinchi, brainwash chesi vodili dobaaru.

Ippudu mana hinduism lo, mulayam/dig vijay/communists type vaallanata bootstrap virus la cheripoyaru. Modi laanti anti-virus software ante chaala manadi ki kadupulo manta anduke.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 09:23 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Hinduism ante vongotam ani baaga alavaatu paddaru chaala mandi so called intellectual muslims like MJ Akbar.




endukala anpinchindi? more than them, hindus like diggy raja and many on this DB have that feeling. muslims baane untaru ee aspect lo. they are not ashamed of showing off their religion and dont expect others to be ashamed as well. mana Hindus key ekkada leni siggulu, bhayalu. :D
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 06:25 pm:       

Hinduism ante vongotam ani baaga alavaatu paddaru chaala mandi so called intellectual muslims like MJ Akbar.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 05:02 pm:       


Thikka_sankara:

and in a sense, pakistan's too




what do you think would have happened if Gandhi said no to pakistan firmly?
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 04:24 pm:       


Teluguhero:

Hindu-majority India is not secular because Gandhi was secular; Gandhi was secular because India is secular.




whistle..

this ,my right wing brothers never understood!
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 03:51 pm:       

he's our father of nation, and in a sense, pakistan's too :-)
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 03:05 pm:       


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Muslims ki tickets emanna Constitutional mandate aa? and BJP ki electoral ga viable anukunna chota icharu ani gurtu chestunna .. be it panchayat or parliament.
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:59 pm:       


Chakkera_keli:

countries must be driven by law


N.Korea lo untava CK vannai?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:59 pm:       


Tilak:

Shahnawaz Hussain, Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi evaru ani google cheyyandi. Kotta ga national politics follow avvadam kada .. appude teliyaali ani expect cheyyatledu ..


emiti modi assembly tickets itchada ellaki..comedy
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:55 pm:       

Shahnawaz Hussain, Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi evaru ani google cheyyandi. Kotta ga national politics follow avvadam kada .. appude teliyaali ani expect cheyyatledu ..
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:52 pm:       

Tickets iyyataniki paniki raaru kaani..ila pogidinappud ads esukotaniki paniki vastharu...

Muslims ante padani nicker batch MK akbar slogin ni highlight seyyatam ...credibility penchukotaniki evari seppina ad esukuntam annattu vundi

BTW...MJ uncle rox
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:45 pm:       


Chakkera_keli:

nationalism should/will/must be the same.... countries must be driven by law


...law is something that u use to govern the country..to maintain harmony....law country ni drive cheyyatam entii.......nations are always motivated and driven by nationalism and economics....
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:45 pm:       


Bushu:

he is the best muslim intellectual in the country.


Totally agreed. Pretty honestly analyzes when he has to put India first.

Cocanada:

when islam is not same as hinduism, how can both nationalisms be same?


Vaarni .. Gandhi ne confuse ayyadu ee particular line of thought lo .. u dont have to go after MKA just for this ..
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:41 pm:       

he is the best muslim intellectual in the country.
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:34 pm:       


Cocanada:



neeku aa black mailing knowall poser subbu saami thappa evadu nachadu...ellehe
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:28 pm:       

Gandhi oka waste gaadu, ala cheppukovalsina avasaram enti antaru, apudu oogina batch ee...routine you know...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:24 pm:       


Teluguhero:

Mahatma Gandhi was a Hindu nationalist


OT gonthu lo baaaaaaaaga digindi .. pachi velakkaya .. :D
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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:21 pm:       


Cocanada:

when islam is not same as hinduism, how can both nationalisms be same?




that is the key... nationalism should/will/must be the same.... countries must be driven by law
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:13 pm:       


Zulu:


thatha sweet talker.
but for convenience, he will equate muslim nationalism and hindu nationalism

when islam is not same as hinduism, how can both nationalisms be same?

it is just a trick. because he is a muslim, he doesnt understand hinduism
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:09 pm:       

I like M.J.Akbar ankul
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:06 pm:       


Teluguhero:

is he committed tosarva dharma sambhav or not?


good.
all hindus are committed to this idea

especially Modi
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 11:57 am:       

http://mjakbarblog.blogspot.in/

Mahatma Gandhi was a Hindu nationalist

When logic snaps, rational discourse stumbles. Why is it perfectly acceptable to applaud a Muslim nationalist, but denigrate a Hindu nationalist? Either both terms are right, or both wrong.

Mahatma Gandhi gave "Muslim nationalism" institutional credibility when, in the fractured decade after the Khilafat movement, Muslims who believed in him formed the All-India Nationalist Muslim Party on 27 and 28 July 1929, with Dr M.A. Ansari at the helm. Our present vice president, Hamid Ansari, belongs to this family.

Gandhi was father of an ideology that knit the groundwork of modern India. His moral compass was set on a firm axis: politics without religion was immoral. Among the first to be impressed by this proposition were the maulvis who later banded under Jamaat-e-Ulema-e-Hind; their alliance would flower during the non-cooperation struggle. Hindu and Muslim are birth identities; they do not change, unless one becomes an atheist. But nationalism, a political concept, can vary. Gandhi did not. From 1915, the year he entered Indian public life, to 1948, when he was assassinated, he believed that India must be a land where all faiths co-existed as equals, guided by sarva dharma sambhav.

Gandhi's nationalism was the antithesis of communalism. He was distressed to the point of agony by the slow drift within the Muslim elite towards separatism. This culminated in partition when Jinnah reduced "Muslim nationalism" to "Muslim nation". It was a visible reduction, philosophically, intellectually and finally geographically. Gandhi promised Muslims honour and equality in a nation from Khyber to Chittagong; Jinnah's prescription eventually reduced Pakistan to a sliver of land on either side of the Indus, wracked by fundamentalism and riven by insecurity.

The difference between "Hindu nationalism" and "Hindu nation" is equally uncomplicated. If anyone wants to be a Hindu nationalist, offer a warm welcome; if the call is for a Hindu nation, point out that religion is ineffective as a basis for nationhood. Pakistan is a good example. Indeed, if religion worked as a glue, why on earth would there be 22 Arab nations? Hindu extremism existed in Gandhi's time, but it never got much traction beyond the fringe; and it could not, ipso facto, seek secession.

Gandhi would have been puzzled by any suggestion that Hinduism was an obstacle to secularism; his Hinduism was an inexhaustible well of brotherhood, just as his colleague Maulana Azad offered Islam as a superb rationale for inter-faith harmony. Both used a faith-influenced dialectic almost unconsciously. Hindu-majority India is not secular because Gandhi was secular; Gandhi was secular because India is secular.

Gandhi was proud to be a Hindu. He promised Ram Rajya, not some variation of a fashionable western dictum, whether Marxist or Fabian. Ram Rajya was a metaphor for prosperity and equality, not subjugation. Gandhi did not shy away from caste. His tongue only partly in cheek, he told the Shafi faction of the Muslim League on 22 February 1931: "Brethren, I am abania, and there is no limit to my greed. It had always been my dream and my heart's desire to speak not only for 21 crores but for 30 crores of Indians." He was answering the charge that he spoke only for Hindus.

Nor did Gandhi's disciple and heir, Jawaharlal Nehru, think that the prefix 'Pandit' would stain his status as a secular icon. Privately, Nehru was more agnostic than believer, but learnt from Gandhi that he could not sneer at, let alone abandon, his Brahmin identity. India is a land of the faithful. Those who today feel 'Pandit' might be an embarrassment have not seen Durga Puja in secular Calcutta.

Strangely, those Muslim League stalwarts who were determined to parade every mark of their religious identity as a fundamental right, spread the canard that Gandhi's Ram Rajya would enslave Muslims. We see variations all the time, among far lesser beings, as vocal networks control debate, and stoke a fear psychosis that suits those who think the Muslim vote is better sought through fear than development.

The insidious power of hysteria sent Indian Muslims en masse towards the separatist Muslim League in the 1946 elections. Gandhi was reviled and taunted along the way. An important caveat is necessary, however. The 1946 franchise was restricted; only about 11% had the right to vote: landowners, rate-payers, graduates; the elite. How would elections have gone if Gandhi's masses, the poor, who often have better political judgement than those better off, had voted?

Faith does not make us communal, human nature does. A politician has as much right to be a Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or Christian as any other citizen. Any doubt about an aspirant to power can be cleared by a simple question: is he committed tosarva dharma sambhav or not? If the answer is unclear, vote for someone else.

Let those Indians who want to pray, do so; let those who want to watch television instead, switch on. Faith is a freedom. Let us celebrate this freedom with a smile, not a snarl.

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