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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 09:56 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

vunkl ittaanti topic friday evening discussion ante kattam.


ittanti topic naaku saturday night..adi kooda midnight daataaka, full scotch esaaka padindi, Der thammudi chethilo. Scorpio uncle emo inkaa inkaa adigi inkaa inkaa extending the topic
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 05:13 pm:       


Commonman:

By definition, reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined

So how can it be a perception?




vunkl ittaanti topic friday evening discussion ante kattam.

presthuthaniki, there cannot be a reality which you cannot fathom. we can measure all we want, with all kinds of devices. but thats still human perception. is there a way around it?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:48 pm:       


Commonman:


So how can it be a perception?


observer batti reality maarutundi kada

Example, Electron is a particle when there is an observer. Otherwise, its a wave
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:44 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

reality is perception.


By definition, reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined

So how can it be a perception?
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:41 pm:       


Kuppuswaminaidu:

For all of the people answering questions, what makes you an authority ? Just curious to know....




questions were posted on a public forum, which implicitly means anyone who can type make a contribution. its upto the people who read to make their minds up.

Now, why does it have to be an authority ? who qualifies as an authority for these questions?
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:37 pm:       

For all of the people answering questions, what makes you an authority ? Just curious to know....
Mohan Babu nijaalu matladithe "controversy" antaru....... How is speaking the truth a controversy? I guess the truth hurts!
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:32 pm:       


Commonman:

Is GOD theory or reality?




reality is perception.

God is a theory, but for few it can be a reality based of their perceptions.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:30 pm:       


Ishan:




Howdy? long time no see. :-)
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:29 pm:       


Commonman:

ok, no more questions

Have a good weekend !!


Thanks, you too
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:26 pm:       


Ishan:

Many did


ok, no more questions

Have a good weekend !!
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:18 pm:       


Commonman:

No one in the history of time has seen the reality, right?


Wrong. Many did.
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:14 pm:       


Ishan:

Reality.


How? As per your original post, it should be theory as it was created by human mind. No one in the history of time has seen the reality, right?
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:08 pm:       


Commonman:


mee view / assumptions base chesukoni cheppandi.

So my question is, Is GOD theory or reality?


Reality.
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:07 pm:       


Commonman:

So my question is, Is GOD theory or reality?
mee view / assumptions base chesukoni cheppandi


my definition of god is reality. your definition is theory.
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:04 pm:       


Ishan:

Nee assumptions telisthe questionni answer cheyochu.


Naa assumptions/views tho sambandham ledu

U said, theory is made up by human mind and reality is diff.

So my question is, Is GOD theory or reality?

mee view / assumptions base chesukoni cheppandi
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:00 pm:       


Commonman:

Question ki response gaa another question vesthe elaa?


Nee assumptions telisthe questionni answer cheyochu. Definition of god varies.
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:56 pm:       


Ishan:

What is your idea of god?


Question ki response gaa another question vesthe elaa?
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:54 pm:       


Stig:

Is offence ever moral ?


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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:54 pm:       


Commonman:


ayina friday afternoon inta philosophy manaku enduku le



naaku lite ga ardham avutaayi ilaativi
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:52 pm:       


Commonman:

GOD - theory or reality?


What is your idea of god?
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:45 pm:       

Is offence ever moral ??
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:33 pm:       

I have a similar question.... How is it that CPI is allowed to exist in a democracy?
Mohan Babu nijaalu matladithe "controversy" antaru....... How is speaking the truth a controversy? I guess the truth hurts!
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:32 pm:       


Nisarga:

why is there difference between statutory law and natural law or morals?






statutory law tries to imitate natural law.........Life has certain emotions human mind has classified some of these as virtues and others are vices.....natural law comes out of this classification and the necessity of humans to group & socialize for survival......
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:31 pm:       


Ishan:

Because theory is limited. It is limited because its made by human mind which doesnt and cant take all factors in to consideration. Reality is much broader


Annai, Howdy ?

So question to you: GOD - theory or reality?
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:25 pm:       


Cocanada:

naaku Q ardham avvaledemo ani doubt ga undi


neeku idi okkate.. naaku ye Q kuda ardham kaaledu

Thread lo Nisarga, Anand, Ishan, M_S vunnaru ante nenu light teesukuntaa... okko post okko bouncer

ayina friday afternoon inta philosophy manaku enduku le
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 03:00 pm:       


Nisarga:

why is there difference between theory and reality?



if reality is different....then how can it be a theory. Theory tappu annatte kada.
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:57 pm:       


Nisarga:


why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?



naaku Q ardham avvaledemo ani doubt ga undi. Competition implies scarcity of the resource in context. Thats why no co-operation. Resource unlimited ayite competition undadu kada. People compete for a job or a rank. But they wont compete for air.
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:51 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:




Vunkl AP lo puttadu kabatti thokkesaru. Adey bengal lo ayyi untey naa..
I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza

 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:49 pm:       


Ishan:



vunkll.. single line simple ga seppav..

aap mahaan ho
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:47 pm:       


Nisarga:

why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?




more often than not, competition for resources is to have a claim on the resources, to satiate personal, group, sect, race or species. Allegiance lies towards the self, not towards the resources or towards the others who are trying for a similar claim.

For a competition to lead to sharing and cooperation, each group needs loose such allegiance.



Nisarga:

why is there difference between theory and reality?



assuming "Reality" is applicable to anyone with perceptive capabilities in nature.

Theory is a piece of imaginary information, with instructions, projections often giving a perspective on the mechanics of a system or something "real", as identified by thought's in one's mind. Theory can be shared with in the same species of similar perceptions, for others(species) its simply non existent entity/thought or unfathomable.

Reality is an individual's perception, as they seem to appear through various senses. even though the true nature of reality is different to each, individual of different species can perceive it.

example, water is real(as perceived by humans or other species that recognize it ), how water is formed is a theory - its a thought.

ofcourse, it can be argued,everything is a thought in which case, the differences cease, everything is a theory.
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:44 pm:       

non-stick pan meeda esinsa dosa kante cast iron meeda esina dosa enduku tashty gaa untaadi?
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:44 pm:       


Ishan:

obvious questions





I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza

 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:40 pm:       

why is there difference between statutory law and natural law or morals?

Because morality is subjective. What is moral to me might not be moral to you. Statutory laws are objectively designed so that they are applicable to the society in general. But I think there is more overlap between these two than differences. Btw, natural law is different than morality.

why is there difference between theory and reality?

Because theory is limited. It is limited because its made by human mind which doesnt and cant take all factors in to consideration. Reality is much broader.


why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?

Its oxymoronic sentence. Competition itself is self-centric, so there is no time for others.

@Nisarga - Pardon me, but obvious questions adigaaru why?
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:20 pm:       

@Nisarga : why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?

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It can, but intavaraku Humanity ni as a single group ga challenge chese conflict ede inta varaku face cheyaledu. evolution was/is the biggest challenge ... may be future lo aliens attack cheste we can see NASA/ISRO/RFSA/ESA kalisi panichestayemo ... :D !!
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:13 pm:       


Nisarga:




My two cents :-)

why is there difference between statutory law and natural law or morals?

maybe because statutory law is black and white and natural law/morals are almost always grey

why is there difference between theory and reality?

Because reality is constrained by our perception,limitations and other variables unlike the perfect controlled conditions of theory

why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?

because survival is not at stake due to the internal competition - when groups see a threat to their individual survival due to their competition a system to maximise likelihood of survival thru cooperation and sharing has happened in the past and will happen again :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:01 pm:       


Nisarga:

why is there difference between theory and reality?




inside the head and outside the head..
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 02:01 pm:       


Nisarga:

why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?




It does happen in lower forms of life. Bacteria are known to kick start some pathways when under stress and communicate with each other using cellular signaling to go dormant or stasis. Few pathways also recycle nutrients by using up degraded nucleotides and amino acid metabolism.

Higher forms are equally capable of doing that, just that they probably do not think that the stress is real or can be overcome by personal gains.
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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 01:59 pm:       


Nisarga:

why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?




that's called socialism..
 

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Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 01:57 pm:       

some philosophical questions. I do not have any definitive answers.
why is there difference between statutory law and natural law or morals?
why is there difference between theory and reality?
why cannot competition for resources lead to more cooperation and sharing?

the assumption here is the questions are valid, if you feel otherwise pls dont try to answer/question. you can add your own questions though :-).

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