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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1753 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 198.175.68.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 29, 2013 - 02:52 am: |
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Filmbuff:
thanks bhayya.. pls keep posting me any articles targeted at novice, when u come across them.... Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Filmbuff
Comedian Username: Filmbuff
Post Number: 1695 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 202.4.164.17
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:57 am: |
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Boston_baba:what was ur objective for doing phd?
I was interested in basic finance. There was no specific objective as such. I was not looking at post PhD life at all.
Boston_baba:r u referring to some exec program?
There was an ad that i saw in the Economist which was for the NUS; one year course in public policy.
Boston_baba:how good are opportunities, if u want to work in india after ur phd?
You can join a bank or Fixed income desk as an economist or researcher but that is a waste of a PhD. You will hate those jobs. Best is to join some of the premium institutes like IIM as a teacher or researcher. India lo opportunities koncham limited, atleast in US or other places there are more options. |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1730 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 198.175.68.36
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:51 am: |
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Saarang:and if they are nice people to work with.
i completely agree annai. i saw ppl whose life miserable and dropped out of phds bcos of guides. Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1729 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 198.175.68.36
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:50 am: |
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Filmbuff:I wanted to do Phd after my MBA but shelved those thoughts as my maths is not that strong,
what was ur objective for doing phd? Filmbuff:I did see that ad of Public Policy in NUS, was tempted but could not imagine giving up an year of pay for that. That is a big opp cost for me.
r u referring to some exec program?
Filmbuff:But for Phd in Economics, there are few opportunities in private sector; more importantly after undergoing the rigour of a Phd in Economics, you will find working in a private sector a bit boring.
thats the point annai.. after phd, u dont want to do daily execution kind of job.. Filmbuff: you can join as Chief Economist at any of these big banks, but it is a limited field. And you can earn as well if you get tenure in a big univ.
how good are opportunities, if u want to work in india after ur phd? Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Saarang
Junior Artist Username: Saarang
Post Number: 795 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 50.132.77.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:07 am: |
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Boston_baba: how do we landup in those top league fin insts? i'm referring to placements into top bureaucratic posts be it UN/IMF/WB or in india.
Ante i am not saying go to a lower rung university. Phd from any of the top 20 schools should get you there. But how to decide among the top 20 lo we need to look at quality of active researchers and if they are nice people to work with. |
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Saarang
Junior Artist Username: Saarang
Post Number: 794 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 50.132.77.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:03 am: |
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Boston_baba: Saarang: PhD lo graduation is not at all guaranteed. Advisor manchi vaadu ayithe he will pull you along how difficult/easy compared to tech PhD. I have fair idea abt wt it takes to do phd in emerging areas from top schools. that gives me idea. Saarang: 2 years course work complete 2yrs for course work alone .... no wonder 5-6yrs is norm for phd completion.
I would say more difficult than Tech. Tech is more applied so Masters versus PhD is not too different. Tech lo ayina if you haven't done relevant MS courses than it would it take 2 years to complete courses and qualifying exams. But MS chesina univ lone PhD cheste, most of the coursework is covered in MS. So inko 4-5 courses tho PhD qualifying complete chestaaru. |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1728 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 198.175.68.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 03:00 am: |
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Boston_baba:how do we landup in those top league fin insts?
i'm referring to placements into top bureaucratic posts be it UN/IMF/WB or in india. Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1727 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 198.175.68.38
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 02:58 am: |
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Saarang:Phd ki Bachelors/Masters laaga rankings chooda kodadu annai.
i agree annai.. but, how do we landup in those top league fin insts? Saarang:PhD lo graduation is not at all guaranteed. Advisor manchi vaadu ayithe he will pull you along
how difficult/easy compared to tech PhD. I have fair idea abt wt it takes to do phd in emerging areas from top schools. that gives me idea.
Saarang:2 years course work
complete 2yrs for course work alone .... no wonder 5-6yrs is norm for phd completion. Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Filmbuff
Comedian Username: Filmbuff
Post Number: 1694 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 202.4.164.17
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 02:46 am: |
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PhD in Economics is always better than public policy. That depends though on what track you want to take - do you want to learn hard core economics or governance. The current WB chief is not even an economist. I wanted to do Phd after my MBA but shelved those thoughts as my maths is not that strong, and at higher levels economics has unfortunately become all about math. Phd Eco you can do at any good Ivy league School. Chicago of course is a legendary place for Econ/ Finance. Stern is another good place for Fin/ Eco. Regarding WB or IMF, mind you they are very stifling bureaucratic places to work in unless you are hard core eco work there. I did see that ad of Public Policy in NUS, was tempted but could not imagine giving up an year of pay for that. That is a big opp cost for me. But for Public Policy, top of the pops is Kennedy School of Government in Harvard. I have a couple of friends who went there after MBA. You can join the private sector easily in big consultancies, think tanks etc. But for Phd in Economics, there are few opportunities in private sector; more importantly after undergoing the rigour of a Phd in Economics, you will find working in a private sector a bit boring. Of course, you can join as Chief Economist at any of these big banks, but it is a limited field. And you can earn as well if you get tenure in a big univ. |
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Saarang
Junior Artist Username: Saarang
Post Number: 793 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 50.132.77.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 02:42 am: |
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Boston_baba:pls post me school rankings for phd in social sciences during ur free time.
Phd ki Bachelors/Masters laaga rankings chooda kodadu annai. You need to take a careful look at top schools, do research on the profs in the school and get inside info on them from current students. Your advisor will decide 90% of your life after you get in. Main gaa kottha mandhi manchi active researchers vunna school ni choosu kovaali. PhD lo graduation is not at all guaranteed. Advisor manchi vaadu ayithe he will pull you along. 2 years course work tarvaata...next 3-4 years researchee mottham. Initial gaa hand holding avasaram avutundhi. So, advisor becomes everything. Research chestu manatho chepinche vaadu kavvaali. Rankings lo ivi emi factor cheyyaryu. |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1724 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 198.175.68.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 01:34 am: |
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Saarang:
thanks a lot annai.. ur help is highly valuable... pls post me school rankings for phd in social sciences during ur free time. thx in advance. Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Saarang
Junior Artist Username: Saarang
Post Number: 792 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 50.132.77.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 01:24 am: |
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Boston_baba: but PhDs ki US schools are better. what are the ones u suggest annai? Saarang: Chaala mandhi Maths tho frustrate ayyipotaaru...Linear Algebra, Calculus and Stats pindestaaru. yeah.. meerannattu, modern & linear algebra theory chala dry ga untadi.. practical relevance telikapote, jeevitam meeda virakti vastadi. btw.. publicpolicy gurinchi mee comment enti.. complexity wise and opportunity wise???
PhD ki best ante...lot of good schools like MIT, Yale, Univ of Chicago, Cal Berkeley, Michigan...depends on your academic profile. Strong young faculty vunna any school will be good. Most of the research will be done by young faculty. Harvard lo there wont be any good young faculty because they wont get tenure at Harvard. Clinton, Obama advisors laanti vaalu vuntaaru...but they wont do any research. Public policy PhD gurinchi idea ledhu. Mana India IAS lu madhyalo study break teesukunhi Masters in Public Policy at Harvard's Kennedy School chestaaru ani telusu.PhDs in all social sciences have become heavily mathematical. New research ilaanti disciplines lo choopininchaali ante it has to involve Maths anattu ayyipoyindhi. Doing a qualitative study on any social topics these days wont give you a PhD. This may be true for public policy also. |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1722 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 192.55.79.164
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 01:11 am: |
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Saarang:but PhDs ki US schools are better.
what are the ones u suggest annai?
Saarang:Chaala mandhi Maths tho frustrate ayyipotaaru...Linear Algebra, Calculus and Stats pindestaaru.
yeah.. meerannattu, modern & linear algebra theory chala dry ga untadi.. practical relevance telikapote, jeevitam meeda virakti vastadi. btw.. publicpolicy gurinchi mee comment enti.. complexity wise and opportunity wise??? Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Saarang
Junior Artist Username: Saarang
Post Number: 790 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 50.132.77.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 12:57 am: |
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Boston_baba: for 5-6 years. r u referring to worst case? wt abt NUS kind of schools? will it give opportunity to work for WB/IMF etc?
NUS teliyadhu..but PhDs ki US schools are better. NUS lo it might be easy but later prospects bagundaka povacchu. 5-6 years is very normal...worst case asalu kaadhu. Best case is 4 but very very unlikely to complete in 4. Read this... http://economics.about.com/od/applyingtograduateschool/a/why _economics.htm |
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Saarang
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Post Number: 789 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 50.132.77.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 12:54 am: |
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Boston_baba: Saarang: PhD in economics ki GRE is good enough...they might not even accept GMAT. Harvard is not at all a good school for doing a PhD. Tarvaata opportunities will be Assitant Prof, World Bank & IMF ect, Financial firms. You will get some sort of funding in a good school. Only financial cost will be no salary for 5-6 years. Doing an Economics PhD will feel like doing a Math PhD. You might be surprised by the amount of math involved. thx bro.. will masters in tech side suffice for phd in this domain. if the target is to get into WB/IMF etc.... wts good choice??
WB/IMF ki Economics PhD is a very good route. Tech Masters tho you can get in but they generally prefer an Econ background. Chaala mandhi Maths tho frustrate ayyipotaaru...Linear Algebra, Calculus and Stats pindestaaru. It can get too theoretical. Sample ki oka important paper links istaan choodu if you will like it. Original paper: http://people.stern.nyu.edu/acollard/BLP.pdf People explaning the paper: http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mshum/gradio/china1.pdf http://www.nber.org/WNE/Slides8-1-07/slides_11_dc.pdf |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1721 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 198.175.68.37
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 12:46 am: |
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Saarang:for 5-6 years.
r u referring to worst case? wt abt NUS kind of schools? will it give opportunity to work for WB/IMF etc? Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1720 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 192.55.79.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 12:43 am: |
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Saarang:PhD in economics ki GRE is good enough...they might not even accept GMAT. Harvard is not at all a good school for doing a PhD. Tarvaata opportunities will be Assitant Prof, World Bank & IMF ect, Financial firms. You will get some sort of funding in a good school. Only financial cost will be no salary for 5-6 years. Doing an Economics PhD will feel like doing a Math PhD. You might be surprised by the amount of math involved.
thx bro.. will masters in tech side suffice for phd in this domain. if the target is to get into WB/IMF etc.... wts good choice?? Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |
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Saarang
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Post Number: 788 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 50.132.77.148
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 12:26 am: |
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Boston_baba:bhayya.. Phd in economic or public policy cheste, opportunities ela untayi both in public and private domain? harvard,wharton lo cheyalante acad bg ela undali? GMAT score entha undali? cost entha avutundi? entha time lo finish cheyochu? comprimise ga NUS lo cheste, opportunities ela untayi??
PhD in economics ki GRE is good enough...they might not even accept GMAT. Harvard is not at all a good school for doing a PhD. Tarvaata opportunities will be Assitant Prof, World Bank & IMF ect, Financial firms. You will get some sort of funding in a good school. Only financial cost will be no salary for 5-6 years. Doing an Economics PhD will feel like doing a Math PhD. You might be surprised by the amount of math involved. |
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Boston_baba
Comedian Username: Boston_baba
Post Number: 1719 Registered: 07-2012 Posted From: 134.134.139.76
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 11:12 pm: |
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bhayya.. Phd in economic or public policy cheste, opportunities ela untayi both in public and private domain? harvard,wharton lo cheyalante acad bg ela undali? GMAT score entha undali? cost entha avutundi? entha time lo finish cheyochu? comprimise ga NUS lo cheste, opportunities ela untayi?? Future is not to be predicted.. It is to be created... |