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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 09:20 am:       

2-3 years back DB lo mantal repina rivalry hehe

kondaru kotthollu interested along with Chikitha :-)
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 09:20 am:       

Buggaler Banned.

PoliticalObserver and Co ki last warning.
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 09:17 am:       


Politicalobserver:


Hidhly constructive thread.


 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:09 am:       


Ballasticmissile:

tcs kolkata na




bgl anukunta
I don't like to waste time making a point on someone that isn't going to understand the point in the first place.

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:07 am:       

Nationally Brahmins are a force, but that is not the case in AP, AP Brahmins are the most docile, but this is the very reason why resentment on AP Brahmins is low and they are rarely in any controversies. Regarding Brahmin-Kammas, my perception is that the relations are mostly cordial with no hidden agenda of mistrust.
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:06 am:       


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neede ooru...tcs kolkata na
i am leading a pious life so far so good
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:04 am:       


Politicalobserver:



Ballasticmissile:




youth 24, 22 1/2....
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:03 am:       


Ballasticmissile:


birds of same eekalu flock togethor :D
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:02 am:       


Politicalobserver:




manam oo sari kaluddam....vizag ye ga meeru kuda February lo mee darsanam chesukunta yemantaru...
i am leading a pious life so far so good
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:29 am:       


Rowdy:



Hidhly constructive thread.Why there is mistrust anedhi manaki telusthundhi
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:24 am:       


Tdp2093:

Nenu brahmins ni thappu pattatam ledhu...valla party valla ishtam..they will decide who to be friends with anutunnanu...


malli same problem ..

nenu okati cheppana .. naaku anipinchedi .. BJP ki caste affiliation antagattadam antha comedy inkoti ledu .. tappo/righto .. Hindutva movement lo caste ki pedda importance ledu .. ivaaltiki kuda 95% ade paddati lo potunnaru .. eppudanna tappulu jarigi undachu .. avi aberrations rather than the rule ..

Tdp2093:

Kammas cannot stop Brahmins influence at national level, they will benifit if they join hands.. 3rd front antu pothe place e vundadu game adathaniki


frankly .. Brahmins ki antha scene ledu .. they are a fringe force as far as politics in concerned .. specially post-mandal ..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:23 am:       

Rhis thread looks like a self goal ... Der answer ivvakundane boledu answers
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:19 am:       


Tdp2093:



Vizag lo DV ki influence nil Undavalli latodu DV.Vizag lo movers and shakers ante Kammas and BCs.
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:15 am:       

DV Subbarao ani Vizag mayor vunde..PV time lo Congress ki next Vajpayee time to BJP ki jump, he is still in BJP.

During PV time he was Cricket manager for Indian team 1997 lo ayyaru

TDP lo vundi vunte oka velugu velege chance vunde. But he aspired for murthy's MP seat and moved to congress. He would have had vizag-1 for life or Mayor of Vizag. After leaving TDP he did not win anything
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:15 am:       


Tdp2093:



Lobby varaku correct ee made.Kammas ki Reddies ki lobby lekapovatam anedhi picchi pushpam dialogue.K-R lobby vundbatte T ravatledu.K-R lobby anedhi Dravidian lobby lo oka part.Business lobby SCs ki oka lobby vundhi.Communists ki vundhi.BCs ki vundhi.Delhi lo emadhyana Brahmin lobby ni SC lobby iragateesthundhi
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:10 am:       


Tdp2093:

SC's ki Party president icharu kadha reserved constituency lo oka chotina gelichevaru kadha valla abhimanam churugonnadhuku ani..


winning in election depends on overall party's health.

Giving party post is recognition for the service done to the party. Indulo anyayam cheste tappu pattachu..

kani specific ga only SC MLAs ni, MPs ni gelipistene party vallaku value ichinatlu ante ela? is TDP taking any specific extra measures to ensure their BC/SC,STs to win irrespective of all odds? or is any other party?
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:10 am:       

Kammas ayina, Reddy ayina national level lo influence kavali ante mundhu brahmin lobby tho sakyatha gaa vundali..ledhante poola chokka vesik moolana kurchu pedatharu...

CBN 9 years nunchi opposition lo vunna with little no of MP's national media endhuku right off cheyadhu,,,because of his relations with that powerful lobby.

E patiki vere state regional party leader aythe school moosesi dikki lo thosesevaru..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:10 am:       

Kammas ayina, Reddy ayina national level lo influence kavali ante mundhu brahmin lobby tho sakyatha gaa vundali..ledhante poola chokka vesik moolana kurchu pedatharu...

CBN 9 years nunchi opposition lo vunna with little no of MP's national media endhuku right off cheyadhu,,,because of his relations with that powerfull lobby.

E patiki vere state regional party leader aythe school moosesi dikki lo thosesevaru..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:09 am:       


Politicalobserver:

Naku TDP lo pedda Brahmin MLAs kooda kanapadaledu




ok.. atleast tickets ichina dhakalalu?.. i mean ichi vodipoina vallu unnara..
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:07 am:       


Chikitha:



Naku TDP lo pedda Brahmin MLAs kooda kanapadaledu
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:06 am:       

for inpormation..TDP lo promn't brahmin leaders who..
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:05 am:       

SC's ki Party president icharu kadha reserved constituency lo oka chotina gelichevaru kadha valla abhimanam churugonnadhuku ani..

Nenu brahmins ni thappu pattatam ledhu...valla party valla ishtam..they will decide who to be friends with anutunnanu...
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:04 am:       


Tdp2093:




Kammas ki Reddies ki national level lo influence ledu ani evaru annaru?
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:00 am:       

SC's ki Party president icharu kadha reserved constituency lo oka chotina gelichevaru kadha valla abhimanam churugonnadhuku ani
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:59 am:       

Problem in my opinion is mis-understandings and not living in reality by both Kammas and brahmins...That is putting some of them at logger heads with each other.

Kammas cannot stop Brahmins influence at national level, they will benifit if they join hands.. 3rd front antu pothe place e vundadu game adathaniki

Brahmins cannot stop kammas influence at state level, they will benifit if they join hands.. anyparty other than TDP ante place vundadu adataniki because others will take you for granted.

IDHI reality...
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:58 am:       


Tdp2093:

Eppudina gelipinchukunara evarinaina....YYY


SCs gelavakapothe only Brahmins de blame. Party lo unna migata castes andariki em responsibility undadu. :D
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:57 am:       


Tdp2093:

TILAK garu honest alochinchandi entha arachakam kaka pothe samajaniki emi chestharu ani entha mandhi swamiji lanu 1991 lo MP's gaa gelipinchindhi BJP ..


AFAIK akkada gelichindi only 6 members. andulo uma bharathi lanti vaallu politics lo involve ayi unnaru already. like Swami Agnivesh..

ee matram daaniki university lecturers ki ivvaali, vaallakivvali, veellakivvaali ani..

mana party ninchi entha mandiki ila istunnam.. eppudu choosina evadi daggara enni kotlu ekkuva unnai.. evadu entha pedda contractor, or industrialist.. idi mana criteria.. Sadhuvulu better emo deeni kanna
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:51 am:       

Nuvvu kamma, nenu bhrahmin, pakkintodu muslim antu
Vanga bettandi ila desanni panda betti pandula cheta naakinchandi.

Yendukayya batukutaaru
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:47 am:       

President post SC's ki ichamu ani BJP chepukuntunaru kadha nearly 50 MLA seats vunnayi, 10 MP seats vunnayi...Eppudina gelipinchukunara evarinaina....YYY

Because a padavi UTSAVA VIGRAHAM ani thelusu kabati...

Peruke party president kani e state ki evarini marchaledu, state president cheyaledu..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:46 am:       


Tdp2093:



Yadavs and Gouds lekapothey hyd esp old city lo Hindus batakatam kashtam
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:45 am:       


Rowdy:

Lol ... Der ki neelantollani chuse aa statement ivvalanipinchi untundi le!




kiki..
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:43 am:       

Ramchandra reddy ki president ivvatam minchi arachakam ledhu a rojullalo...

Worst thing that happened to BJP than tie up with TDP. E roju elaga vundedho hyderabad lo BJP if Yadavas have owned it.

Ala Narendra dance chesthunadu roju open gaa maku(BC) ki endhuku ivvaru ani ekkado MADRAS lo vunna rmachandra reddy ni thesuku vachi president chesaru...party lo OC leaders andharidhi thappu..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:39 am:       

Not party president Governor post...at that point of time. I could not accept as he was not a player on the state stage .
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:36 am:       


Tdp2093:

It is not a regional party national party ki state presidents are like zilla presidents for REgional party...


poni national party national president ni state party state president ni compare cheddama? BJP vs TDP..
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:34 am:       


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My personal request. meeru vere vaallaki answering cheste parledu.. kani maa taatha la kaalam ninchi edupu ani swayam ga declare chesukunna kurrodni ignore cheyyatame btr.. adi hate agenda..


answering em ledu tammi .. I know they wont be convinced with such open declarations of hate .. kaani naaku telisina truth nenu cheptunna .. i dont care if they still go on ..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:32 am:       


Tdp2093:

Religion kudu pettadhu ani vallaki thelusu anukuntunnanu...


Caste pedutunda? Region pedutunda? Language pedutunda? Gender pedutunda?
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:30 am:       


Tilak:


My personal request. meeru vere vaallaki answering cheste parledu.. kani maa taatha la kaalam ninchi edupu ani swayam ga declare chesukunna kurrodni ignore cheyyatame btr.. adi hate agenda..
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:28 am:       


Gamingfan:

cheyyakapote enduku use chesaru,vere example teesukovalsindi


to bring relevance.
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:27 am:       


Tdp2093:

TILAK garu honest alochinchandi entha arachakam kaka pothe samajaniki emi chestharu ani entha mandhi swamiji lanu 1991 lo MP's gaa gelipinchindhi BJP ..


gelipinchindi BJP naa? ante votes vaalle vesesukunnara? leka janam vesara? 1991 ante peaks of Ram Janam Bhoomi movement .. aa rojullo unna atmosphere and issues ki .. vaallakunna best candidates ki ichukunnaru .. maybe konni mistakes emanna jarigayemo .. ticket allocation lo .. but gelichina MP ni pattukuni .. enduku gelipinchaaru anatam lo ardam emundi?

Tdp2093:

Why ramarao who was state president of BJP when Vajpayee was PM given governor post ahead of the below folks. Ala Narendra ki party president ivakunda endhuku aparu...


meere cheptunnaru 40 years nunchi Jan Sangh ki serve chesaru Rama Rao ani .. and he was president between 1993-97 (BJP's best time in AP coincidentally is the same) .. alage while Vajpayee was president Dattatreya (BC), Vidyasagar Rao (Velama), Ramachandra Reddy ki icharu .. http://ap.bjp.org/bjp-leadership/ex-state-presidents


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V Rama Rao (born 11 December 1935) was the Governor of the Indian state of Sikkim from October 25, 2002 to October 25, 2007. He was born near Machilipatnam in Krishna District in Andhra Pradesh. He was a member of the Bharatiya Janta Party. His academic qualifications include the B.A and LLB. He practiced as an Advocate in the High Court of A.P
Elected to the Andhra Pradesh State Legislative Council from Hyderabad Graduates' Constituency in 1966, 1972, 1978 and 1984 four times consecutively. M.L.C. for about, 19 years, till it was abolished. Leader of the party in council. Served on several Legislative Committees
His political career started when he joined Jana Sangh in 1956. Held several positions in the party.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._Rama_Rao

alanti senior person ki president isthe tappa? and he gave good results to BJP as well ..

asalu anni decisions perfect ani evadu vaadinchadu konni tappulu jaragochu .. kaani anni decisions tappu ga teesukunnaru ante .. silly adi .. manaki oka lens lo nunchi choodatam alaavatu ayyaka .. vere laa choodamanna choodalem .. its that simple .. (idi naaku kuda vartistundi)
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:23 am:       

Reddys/Kammas/Kapus akkadaka sync ayyaru with BJP is not purely love of religion...

Religion kudu pettadhu ani vallaki thelusu anukuntunnanu...

In the past Student leaders gaa vunna vallu avathali vargam SFI lo AISF lo RSU lo vunte vidyardhi vibhagam lo strong vaa vunna ABVP ki attract ayyaru

So it is because of the situation where you have to be in ABVP if your campus rival is in SFI/AISF/RSU and some attraction to radical nationalism.

Oka group nationalism musugulo dankunte inko group victim card musugu lo SFI/AISF/RSU lanti vatilo dominate cheyataniki try chesayi ani nammuthunnanu..

Andhuke SFI strong gaa vunna chota mathrame ABVP flourish avuthadhi.

Godavari kapu's oka sari vesaru due to the tensions with SC's who are with Congress at that time and Kapus complete gaa TDP ki leru,but after 1996-1997 varadhalu they tilted to TDP away from BJP due to the moral support extended by CBN t
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:15 am:       

Lol ... Der ki neelantollani chuse aa statement ivvalanipinchi untundi le!
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:15 am:       

TILAK garu honest alochinchandi entha arachakam kaka pothe samajaniki emi chestharu ani entha mandhi swamiji lanu 1991 lo MP's gaa gelipinchindhi BJP ..

YYY, University professors entho mandhi vunnaru,cadre lo sympathisers lo...But why swamijis.

Why ramarao who was state president of BJP when Vajpayee was PM given governor post ahead of the below folks. Ala Narendra ki party president ivakunda endhuku aparu...

Venkaya Naidu
Vidya Sagar Rao
Indra Sena Reddy
Ala Narendra
PV Chalapathi Rao
Badam Bal Reddy

Vellu andhar 40+ years vunnaru party lo..Janasangh batch..

But I will still say core supporters who work for free are from brahmins so it is right to run according to their thoughts.
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:14 am:       


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rethri NTR_rocks vochchi andarini musesthadu...monna warning ichchadu...ee caste gola ekkuvayyindi ani...





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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:12 am:       


Tdp2093:

BJP brahmin party ante anni states lo valle presidents gaa vundaru..vallaki influence vunna chota vuntaru,,valla thoughts tho sync ayyevade president avuthadu ani...anti brahmin avadu state president BJP lo.even zilla president kuda..



Tdp2093:

BJP eppatiki andhra lo major role play cheyataniki scope lekapovataniki...main reason...

Andhra has 4 major players...in politics veelu chee ante e-party kuda ruling lo ki raledhu at least for the next 20 + yrs.

Vella lo evaru BJP ni own/tie-up/friendship chesukuntaro ...chesukune likely chance vundho alochinchali other neutral BJP supporters...

You like it or not BJP is brahmins party and who is most likely chance of going along with them alochinchi postandi..

Grade A- players
Reddy- they bring money,muscle and influence to the table
Kamma - they bring money and influence to the table
Kapu - they bring muscle and money to the table
Mala - they bring influence and muscle to the table


Grade B-players politically in state
Madiga - bring muscle..
Yadav - bring muscle
Gowda - bring muscle
Koppulu Velama - bring influence
Brahmins - bring influence



ippudu AP lo BJP ki Brahmins votes vestara kanisam? vaalla tho "sync" ayye castes evi?

Politicalobserver:

Naku Hindutva meeda sympathy vunna .Brahmins ante aversion


ok .. fine ..
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Ilage kaniyyandi...rethri NTR_rocks vochchi andarini musesthadu...monna warning ichchadu...ee caste gola ekkuvayyindi ani...
 

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BJP is a brahmin party any doubt about that.BJPs Parent org RSS is brahmin infested.Naku Hindutva meeda sympathy vunna .Brahmins ante aversion

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Sanghâs Narendra Modi Problem
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Given the intentional inscrutability and deliberate obfuscation that the Sangh tends to practice in its communication, it will never go on record admitting that it has a Narendra Modi problem. And this problem is quite serious given that it is bound to have an impact on its ideological trajectory and on the socio-structural fault lines within the larger Sangh.

Sangh vanguard, to put it charitably, practices a bit of sophistry when they claim that they do not meddle in the political affairs of BJP. I have observed Sangh for long, often with huge admiration at their exemplary record of social service and purposeful patriotism but also with consternation at their prejudiced pronouncements and regression in to some kind of a secretive, Marathi Brahmin brotherhood.

Denials notwithstanding, Sangh is facing a huge talent problem. Combined with intellectual atrophy it makes things worse. No transformational ideas seem to be emerging from their cloistered world. Of course, as one of my perceptive colleagues at CRI put it, Work-a-day Hindutva is as imperative and not necessarily inferior but striking the right balance holds the key. Victimhood narrative will yield diminishing returns with aspirational middle India.

Itâs now clear that Sanghâ s best laid political plans, for its handpicked Nagpur boy Nitin Gadkari, is in complete shambles. If not for its Sanghâs petty provincial and parochial preferences, Gadkari would have not been persisted at cost of such huge perception loss to the party. Of course politics is not about combating perception fostered by Delhi establishment elite and media talking heads but let us be clear that Gadkari is no mass leader. For a brief while, while basking in glory of Delhi studio hopping, Gadkari might have been tempted to think he was one (Delhi does that to you). Neither is Gadkari a powerful regional satrap like Kalyan Singh or even a Yedyurappa. To the contrary he has been a source of endless embarrassment and so completely inconsequential in the BJPâs electoral scheme of things that he is not worth defending at cost of expending such enormous political energy. Instead of letting him go, what we witnessed was rather a sad spectacle of an erudite, highly respected, high-minded ideologue giving âclean chitâ to Gadkari, that too in a most unseemly manner. Innovative window dressing (social entrepreneur etc) cannot obscure the fact that Gadkari, is in mould of a typically brazen, resourceful Maharashtra politician- the types who leverage cross political connection to build a business empire and in the process indulge in wheeling dealing that is not entirely above board .

With Gadkari project imploding in ignominy, one would think that Sangh has no political options and will reconcile to the real-world realities. But it would be imprudent to underestimate the extent to which Sangh will go in not losing its control of BJP that it wrested after a hard fought, internal battle. Personally I think BJP is in for a tough challenge in Gujarat(but will manage) and if Modi flounders, even marginally, I expect Sangh vanguard to persevere with their charmed Nagpur boy. Sangh has invested huge in Gadkari project and will sustain it even if it means the electoral eclipse of BJP. After all in itâs typically fork tongued manner, Sangh can always claim that itâs not in the business of electoral politics.

But that does leave us with the larger question. Itâs clear that Sangh bosses fear the rise of Narendra Modi. Apparently an unnamed Sangh insider was quoted as saying this on Modi âShivling mein bichhu baitha hai. Na usko haath se utaar sakte ho, na usko joota maar sakte hoâ. (I reconfirmed import of this from a Hindi knowing friend given my less than decent proficiency of this language). But why does Sangh fear the rise of Modi? After all isnât Modi a model pracharak schooled in Sangh tradition? He stands as a testimony to what Sangh claims epitomize the qualities of a quintessential cadre in its rank (but they rarely tend to be)- sterling personal character, profound bottom up understanding of society, empathy with impoverished and marginalized, indefatigable energy, tremendous organizational ability, moral certitude and not amenable to lure of lucre.

Undeniable Brahminical fetish of the Sangh vanguard has been forwarded as an explanation for tension filled dynamics between Sangh and Modi , by both critics and as well as its well-wishers. But that I think is only a partial, inadequate explanation. Tension between Modi and Sangh is essentially rooted in Sanghâs inability to come in terms with meteoric rise of Modi and his remarkable transformation in to a mass leader based on a brand of unique leadership model so evocatively captured here by that fine political pundit Albatrossinfo.

Journey of Narendrabhai Modi, from an energetic, simple-minded, itinerant prachark (they who come their own set of prejudices and positives) in to a leader, who has managed to fashion a complete new grammar of governance, is simply the most inspiring political story of last decade. A lowly son of a tea vendor, from a poor backward caste household today remarkably stands tall as the man who many think and justifiably so, as the only one in the ruling class, with demonstrated ability to ideate and execute solutions on complex governance challenges.

Personally I am completely flummoxed on how Modi seems to be superbly in sync with modernist impulses but still can retain that native ruggedness. Modi has shown how one can embrace modern ideas, tools and idioms brilliantly without adopting its shallow external trappings which the parasitic, dynastic Delhi ruling elite mistakenly assume modernity to be.

Writing long back, I spoke about an ideological strand that I wished BJP should move towards.

âMetaphorically this strand is more comfortable with âlaptopâ rather than âlathiâ. This strand as we see it is perfectly at ease with modernist impulses, maintaining a studied indifference on civilization/cultural issues though waiting to articulate it in an almost adversarial manner when they see a particular political context arising. Common characteristic among those who belong in this strand includes anti-caste orientation, near irreligiosity, liberal disposition and effusive sense of idealism

Once they assume political power what can be expected from those who subscribe to this strand is a benign authoritarianism style leadership with emphasis on qualities like impeccable personal integrity quotient and result oriented âde-ideologiesedâ governance with help of handpicked set of efficient upright bureaucrats. âManagerial stateâ would be an ideal word to describe it

Among the important personalities one can be locate in this strand in BJP is Modiâ

We predicted that yearning for such a leader will gain ground when a suitable political climate or inflexion point is reached. Instinctively we did sense a tacit longing for a strong leadership but country was conflicted on arriving at a shared understanding of who that leader is. Increasingly urbanizing India with a high aspiration quotient is now poised to embrace this stream as they see a clearly identified leader fitting in this mould.

Sangh unfortunately has not been clear on which ideological strand it wishes to promote within BJP. Currently it seems to be leaning towards the mercenary mercantilism variety. Some of Sangh functionaries see Narendrabhai as an ambitious upstart who needs to be reined it. Does it not occur to Sangh worthies that after Balasaheb Deoras and Govindacharya, Modi is one of those rare transformational thinker and a doer, who has emerged indigenously from Sangh ranks.

By unequivocally endorsing Modi and his brand of politics, Sangh has a unique opportunity to embrace modernity that it always feared and resented. Through Modi, Sangh has a historic chance to leave behind embarrassing aspects of its legacy which included advocating isolationism of mind, fostering fear of modernity and contempt for politics as an instrument of socio-political change.

Is Sangh up for this challenge? If you go by history, answer unfortunately is no.

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:07 am:       

BJP brahmin party ante anni states lo valle presidents gaa vundaru..vallaki influence vunna chota vuntaru,,valla thoughts tho sync ayyevade president avuthadu ani...anti brahmin avadu state president BJP lo.even zilla president kuda..

TDP kamma party ante anni zilla presidents kammas vundaru valla tho sync ayye vade avuthadhu anti kamma avvadu president gaa TDP lo.
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:07 am:       


The_illusionist:

ippudu karamchedu massacre cheppi nenu Kams andarini generalize cheyyatleduga. Brahmins lo progressive ga thinkina vaallu chaala mandi unnaru..




cheyyakapote enduku use chesaru,vere example teesukovalsindi


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Especially Krishna





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Boston_baba:

anni parties okela untayanukuntunnaru annai.. vadileyandi....


politicalobserver laanti pistha political pundits ni cheppamanu aa maata .. prati roju .. prati thread lo .. BJP is a brahmin party ane moot point naaku chiraaku ga undi .. as a BJP supporter ..
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Buggaler:




Bollu mandi vuntaru wisdom vunna vallu.Chaduvukunna prathi vedava ki wisdom vundadhu.Brahmanatvam and Brahmagyanam badulu wisdom ani anandi
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:03 am:       


Tilak:

Organisation of BJP in AP .. lekkaleyyandi castes .. telcheddam vishayam ..




anni parties okela untayanukuntunnaru annai.. vadileyandi....
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Tdp2093:


Brahmins are very powerful...they play a mojor role in electioneering when it comes to urban areas and also some rural areas.

Public servants gaa ,Election officers gaa, teachers gaa, priests gaa they interact and have influence over large portions of people....

Kathi,bombu,money patinavadidhe balam influence ankunte thappu..Dhemudu peru cheppi influence cheyagaligina vadidhi inka balam...TATA lanti vade vangi vangi dandam pedathadu..OKA Ex cm ni LK ani thitina Gali ..dhemudu peru chepthe pujariki vangi vangi kalaku dandam pedathadu..that is influence and power ante..


are you talking about India of today?
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Tdp2093:




Dabbu guddalo demudu vunnadu.Vaalu Brahmalu chesey ee tappu cheyatledu they are correcting the mistakes of 3 millenia.Kammas kani Reddies kani BCs Kani they are trying to propogate education,Healthcare everything accesibile in the best manner possible.

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Politicalobserver:

Brahmanatvham emiti andi babu chandalanga


Brahma Gnaanam Pondina Vaade nijamayina Brahmanudu as per Vedas, entha mandi suit avuttaru aa kova kinda ivvaala?
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:59 am:       


Politicalobserver:

AP RSS di organization teei appudu matlaadu


AP RSS di naa daggara ledu .. nuvvu teesi appudu matlaadu ..

Politicalobserver:

Kamma jenaba pujari ki vangaru teda vasthey iragateestharu.Especially Krishna-Guntur-Godavari belt lo


thats the spirit .. I want every other person/caste to be like that ..
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Buggaler:




Brahmanatvham emiti andi babu chandalanga.Daani substitute chesi Manavatvam ani anacchu lekapothey unkothi edo annachu.Brahmanatva emiti andi babu.Veelu chesina chastalu vedava panulu choosaka aa padam addam pettukuni aa padaniki ardam ledu
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:56 am:       

Brahmins chesina thappu nee Reddys,Kammas, Kapus chesthunaru..

Kulam peru tho vidya,vidyam andhariki andhakunda chesthe..
Dhani sadinchukunaa REddys,Kammas,Kapus memu alaga kadhu evarikina sare BUT money vundali antunaru..

Okadu kulam musugulo chesthe vere vallu money musugulo chesthunaru...
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Tdp2093:

The decision making body for BJP will always remain the same as that core workers who work for free will come from that community who are the soul for any party


Is that closed to other communities?

Or work cheyyani vallani techi decision making body lo include cheyyali antunnara? what made BJP earn the brand of a Brahmin party?

Tdp2093:

It is not a regional party national party ki state presidents are like zilla presidents for REgional party...


Zilla presidents for a regional party - lite aa?
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Kamma jenaba pujari ki vangaru teda vasthey iragateestharu.Especially Krishna-Guntur-Godavari belt lo
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:53 am:       

//You like it or not BJP is brahmins party and who is most likely chance of going along with them alochinchi postandi..
//

bullshit. aa party kooda oka caste tho nadavadhu.

der vishayaniki vasthe DB madhyalo vachhi edo interrupt chesukunnadu.

ekkada gilludekkuva anthe. here lot of kams are supporting bjp and modi. alage edho gillitham konni vishayallo. andharu gillutharu.

NTR to tarak prethi kam ki anti ga matlade vallaki caste hatred vundhi anukovachhuga memu kooda. edhe db lo chala sarlu ayyayi ee arguments. how come some dont like any kam anedhi chepthara der garu. memu counter ki gillithe hatred antunnaru. asalu ekkada daily bases lo jarige arguments lo bhramin celebrities evarunnarani vimarsinstham. inka ee gola aapi thread lepandi. waste of time.
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Gudi loki raniyaledhu..ilanti sodhi emitehe...


OKA adadani rape chesina tharvatha evaru help ki vellakapovatam entha thapo...

Gudi loki raniyaledhu Alantivi chusi emi cheyani vadi dhi kuda anthe thappu...

Chesina vadikanna ..chusthu vurukunna vadidhe inka pedda thappu..because you are selfish and you have your own motives...
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:53 am:       


Politicalobserver:

I do not agree with this


Brahmanism ekkadiki podu vayya

saduvukunnavaaru, Gnaanam unnavaru unnantha varaku Brahmanatvam brathike untundi, anduke i agree
 

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Tdp2093:




Brahmins aney vally inthaku mundu la Bureacracy lo leru.They are on their way out.Prasthutam ippudu 55-60 age lo vunna Babus lo kontha mandhi vunnaru.Tarvata batches lo pedda leru
 

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http://ap.bjp.org/bjp-leadership/ex-state-presidents

list of Ex AP BJP presidents ..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:50 am:       


Tilak:




AP RSS di organization teei appudu matlaadu
 

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It is not a regional party national party ki state presidents are like zilla presidents for REgional party...

The decision making body for BJP will always remain the same as that core workers who work for free will come from that community who are the soul for any party.(workers who work for free.

Brahmins are very powerful...they play a mojor role in electioneering when it comes to urban areas and also some rural areas.

Public servants gaa ,Election officers gaa, teachers gaa, priests gaa they interact and have influence over large portions of people....

Kathi,bombu,money patinavadidhe balam influence ankunte thappu..Dhemudu peru cheppi influence cheyagaligina vadidhi inka balam...TATA lanti vade vangi vangi dandam pedathadu..OKA Ex cm ni LK ani thitina Gali ..dhemudu peru chepthe pujariki vangi vangi kalaku dandam pedathadu..that is influence and power ante..
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:48 am:       

http://ap.bjp.org/organisation/office-bearers

Organisation of BJP in AP .. lekkaleyyandi castes .. telcheddam vishayam ..
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I do not agree with this
 

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Brahmins hinduism ki emi chesindhi ledu.100 years back Rajulu ki tappa migatha communities ki veelu evariki veelu purohitam chesevaru kadu.Each community lo Dasaris aney vally cheseyvaru.

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The_illusionist:

oka fact chepta.. ikkada ee mataalu maare sections valla hinduism nashta poyindi ledu. because they never served for the religion. just number sake unnaru. eppudaithe brahmins vaalla religious customs ,daivika sambhandha vishayala ninchi dooram jarugutu vacharo (because of various reasons) appudu hinduism ki effect aindi. because other castes cannot replace the vacuum. Kabatti hinduism batakali ante brahmanism (not the dalit definition) batakali..


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Tdp2093:

You like it or not BJP is brahmins party and who is most likely chance of going along with them alochinchi postandi..


3 MLAs in assembly - 2 reddies, 1 BC
last 4 AP BJP presidents - 1 Kamma, 2 Reddies, 1 BC ..

but you are true - it is a party of brahmins ..
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Buggaler:

why should he abuse her in such a filthy language?


tappani prati post lonu ekkada cheppedi vayya.. I can't judge whether it can be related to caste. but it is certainly personal arrogance.


Buggaler:

indukenandi matalu marchukunedi ani


gadida guddu.. mari kammas, reddies enduku marutunnaaru? matam marchukunna xstians mallee akkada caste feelings. akkadedo mallee itara mataallo tega equality choopistunnatlu.. mana muslims ni arabs ela treat chestaro telusa.. alane xstians tellollu vallaki equal ga treat chestara?

oka fact chepta.. ikkada ee mataalu maare sections valla hinduism nashta poyindi ledu. because they never served for the religion. just number sake unnaru. eppudaithe brahmins vaalla religious customs ,daivika sambhandha vishayala ninchi dooram jarugutu vacharo (because of various reasons) appudu hinduism ki effect aindi. because other castes cannot replace the vacuum. Kabatti hinduism batakali ante brahmanism (not the dalit definition) batakali.. }
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:38 am:       


Tdp2093:




Small error ikkada Brahmins emi taaru they are plain non-entity.BC are the biggest movers and Shakers in AP politics
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:32 am:       

BJP eppatiki andhra lo major role play cheyataniki scope lekapovataniki...main reason...

Andhra has 4 major players...in politics veelu chee ante e-party kuda ruling lo ki raledhu at least for the next 20 + yrs.

Vella lo evaru BJP ni own/tie-up/friendship chesukuntaro ...chesukune likely chance vundho alochinchali other neutral BJP supporters...

You like it or not BJP is brahmins party and who is most likely chance of going along with them alochinchi postandi..

Grade A- players
Reddy- they bring money,muscle and influence to the table
Kamma - they bring money and influence to the table
Kapu - they bring muscle and money to the table
Mala - they bring influence and muscle to the table


Grade B-players politically in state
Madiga - bring muscle..
Yadav - bring muscle
Gowda - bring muscle
Koppulu Velama - bring influence
Brahmins - bring influence
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:31 am:       

Buggaler Garu.Kamma jenaba e vishayam lo tappu chesina veela vishayam varaku 1000% correct chesaru.Veelani venekesu ravalsina antha avasarM ledu
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:19 am:       


The_illusionist:

evaraina chanipote 13th day sivalayam lo nidra cheyyatam


ilantido edo correct ga gurthu ledu, ma Peddamma cheppindi, could be related to this

even if it is related, why should he abuse her in such a filthy language?

konchem opigga seppochu ga, memu edo Puja Madya lo unnamu, maa Pujari tidatha unnadu, aa pedda pujarini, indukenandi matalu marchukunedi ani
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:19 am:       


Buggaler:

Kamalai, idi nenu choosina Nijam, Vja Visweswaraya Aalayam ani undi Durga Gudi kinda

rest nee ishtam, i'm not averse to Brahmins, but just letting you know the facts



nenu kuda nee facts ee correct antunna annai .. there is no reason why we should tolerate these bunch of orthodox idiots who hurt other hindus .. if all brahmins are such, we should consciously avoid dealing with such people and put them in place ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:17 am:       


Buggaler:


naa raagam enti.. nee taalam enti.. akkada aa incident chesina vaadu oka brahmin (caste brahmin).. vaadu chesindi 200% mistake. (nuvvu cheppina danni as it is ga teesukuntunna.. without asking for context).. u should have questioned it. next time ala cheyyakunda unde vaadu. anyways, it is an isolated incident. daaniki nuvvu generalization cheste ela? ippudu karamchedu massacre cheppi nenu Kams andarini generalize cheyyatleduga. Brahmins lo progressive ga thinkina vaallu chaala mandi unnaru..

maree villages lo tappite, evadu ye caste o evadiki teleedu. u might be unaware, kani manaku oka sampradayam undi. evaraina chanipote 13th day sivalayam lo nidra cheyyatam. palletoollalo even lot of christians still follow this.
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:16 am:       


Tilak:

andaru brahmins inthe na?


Kamalai, idi nenu choosina Nijam, Vja Visweswaraya Aalayam ani undi Durga Gudi kinda

rest nee ishtam, i'm not averse to Brahmins, but just letting you know the facts
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:09 am:       


Buggaler:

oka venukabadina varganiki chendina kottha vithanthuvu tella cheera kattukuni Sivuni gudiloki raakapothe, akkada pujari ammalakkalu thitti pampesaadu loni raaneekunda


andaru brahmins inthe na?

Buggaler:

even this day they are doing it in broad day light, anduke vere matalaki pothunnaranipinchindi anagarina vargalu


oka pani cheddaam .. brahmins ni hindus kaadu ani teermaninchi veli vesthe saripoye .. manaki vallatho sambandaalu akkarledu .. vaalla nirankusatvam asale akkarledu ..
India must conquer the World and nothing less than that is my ideal - Swami Vivekananda
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:03 am:       


The_illusionist:

Brahmins eppudu dappu kottukoledu ga..


what a joke???

oka venukabadina varganiki chendina kottha vithanthuvu tella cheera kattukuni Sivuni gudiloki raakapothe, akkada pujari ammalakkalu thitti pampesaadu loni raaneekunda

paapam, aa abhaagyuralu, entho aavedana lo akkada ninchi nishkraminchindi

elli godavesukundamanukunna, pakkana unna peddamma manakenduku lera ani oddani aapindi nannu

even this day they are doing it in broad day light, anduke vere matalaki pothunnaranipinchindi anagarina vargalu


The_illusionist:

ikkada memu evaru... meeru evaru..asalu adi attain chesina vaadiki aa differences ye undavu


, yea right, ade nenu sebutunnadi

memu ante ikkada Kamma ani seppukuntunnanu
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:55 am:       


Buggaler:

nenu idaakatninchi motthukunnade, nuvvu vere examples seppi emi saadinchaaro vivarimpudu


ante Brahmins eppudu dappu kottukoledu ga.. meme brahmatvaniki patent ani.. ala vere vallu chesina vaallani goppaga respect chesaru ane context lo chepanu..

Buggaler:

memu meeku Potee ga Brahmanatvaanni chedinchamanena nee gola antha?


ikkada memu evaru... meeru evaru..asalu adi attain chesina vaadiki aa differences ye undavu
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:31 am:       


The_illusionist:

so don't confuse brahmatvam with brahmin caste.


nenu idaakatninchi motthukunnade, nuvvu vere examples seppi emi saadinchaaro vivarimpudu
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:30 am:       


Buggaler:

Brahmanatvam ante puttuka tho brahmadu kaadu, gnaanam tho brahmanatvanni pondevaade Brahmanadu ani artham


annai.. there are 2 things.. Varna system as prescribed in purusha sooktam.. any one can attain brahmatvam irrespective of one's birth. lot of examples are there in books. vyasudu, valmiki veellantha puttuka tho brahmanulu kaaru. kaani they attained it. Ravanasurudu brahmanudiga puttaadu. kaani he couldn't.

so don't confuse brahmatvam with brahmin caste.
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:23 am:       


Buggaler:

memu brahmanulu ni chedinchaam, kaapulu vysyulani chedincharante ok e na??




nee flow lo nuvellu
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:22 am:       

Ich weiss es nicht.
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:08 am:       


Chikitha:

idhi mathram.. naa yokka valla kavatledhu


pone le eha

memu brahmanulu ni chedinchaam, kaapulu vysyulani chedincharante ok e na??
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:03 am:       


Buggaler:

Brahmanatvam ante puttuka tho brahmadu kaadu, gnaanam tho brahmanatvanni pondevaade Brahmanadu ani artham




idhi ok.. andhulo argue seyadaniki em le..

Buggaler:

chedinchamanena




idhi mathram.. naa yokka valla kavatledhu..
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 03:51 am:       


Buggaler:

MaalaPilla choosaava??? Chowdary character gurinchena nee baaadha antha???



i am leading a pious life so far so good
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 03:49 am:       


Chikitha:


Brahmanatvam ante puttuka tho brahmadu kaadu, gnaanam tho brahmanatvanni pondevaade Brahmanadu ani artham

I highly regard this principle of Brahmanatvam than, getting it directly through birth, endukante anni castes lo good & bad untaru
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 03:46 am:       


Buggaler:

memu meeku Potee ga Brahmanatvaanni chedinchamanena nee gola antha? inketanna unda???




nenu sassipotha.. kathekkada.. seruvekkada..
 

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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 03:43 am:       

Why do you think n post that all Kamma's are against you Brahmins? answer with all relevant quotes where necessary

NTR had a strong support group of Brahmin's under his wings who were bureaucrats & who actually suggested to remove karanam's are all Brahmins

Brahmins, Kamma Brahmins anthe, no other caste has this distinction? indukena nee edupu?

memu meeku Potee ga Brahmanatvaanni chedinchamanena nee gola antha? inketanna unda???

MaalaPilla choosaava??? Chowdary character gurinchena nee baaadha antha???

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