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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 02:19 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:




chandigarh tho vunna aa issues enti mama!!!
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:56 pm:       


Sanman:

what you are saying is right in theory but in India even that is not working. village panchayats, councellors, temple committeess are all local but there is equal corruption in those




Corruption is only one issue here, and it is upto ppl to elect honest ppl.

Panchayat presidents, Councillors, mayors etc all either play the slave role to the local MLA, if he is from their party, or are totally defiant, and indifferent to the local MLA, if he is from a different party.

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:54 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

we successfully killed the gram panchayat system and local governance long time ago. Local governance needs people who are educated and understand the issues that concern them. A district collector who comes from another state or area would not be able to do that unless they are really committed.




Local Govt. is not just the district collector. Yes, I am talking about gram panchayats, corporations, muncipalities. Unless they are given more powers, autonomy, and funds, regionalism will surface, it is only a matter of time.

EVen if T is formed, if the CM is interested only in Hyd, or his district, there will again be conflict between districts.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:53 pm:       

asalu river bed based ga division jarigithe chakaga,

North T, UA kalipi oka state.

South T, Rest coastal, seema kalipi inko state cheyyochu.

with HYd as capital for both

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:31 pm:       


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mama nuvvu db ki raagane oka beemi icon estavu.. why???


atla emi ledu bhayya...posts hilarious ga unte bemmi icon anthe...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:24 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

nalgonda kalputham andhra loki meeku yemina problem aa?



srikakulam, viz T ki ichesi, khammam, mhbngr teesukoni ummadi capital ok na?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:22 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

yenti aa issues?



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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:21 pm:       


Bhikhu:

bougolikam ga hyd as common capital set avvadu


nalgonda kalputham andhra loki meeku yemina problem aa? :D
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:20 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

asalu hyd ni share cheydaniki meeku vachina problem yenti?


bougolikam ga hyd as common capital set avvadu..it is best if hyd is UT..land rates r expected to go up atleast 200% if hyd becomes a UT..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:19 pm:       


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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:16 pm:       


Indiarocks:

If only local Govts had more powers, they would have had the visibility to identify what is needed, and what needs to be done in every nook and corner.


what you are saying is right in theory but in India even that is not working. village panchayats, councellors, temple committeess are all local but there is equal corruption in those
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:16 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

It will be like chandigarh and all the issues that go with it


yenti aa issues?

Okahyderabadi:

Separation is best when it is clean in my opinion




nen cheeppedhi kuda separate state, ikkada ummadi asthi kosam thagadha, okka company kuda pettaledhu kani Hyd dobbedam ante yela? asalu hyd ni share cheydaniki meeku vachina problem yenti?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:16 pm:       

it is not related to developement..kcr baga brainwash sesadu..kurrol oogipotunnaru..as of now T without hyd is very possibl..ninna rosi ni business kurrol nilatisaru..if hyd is not in T it will be failure of T movement..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:15 pm:       


Indiarocks:

f only local Govts had more powers, they would have had the visibility to identify what is needed, and what needs to be done in every nook and corner.


we successfully killed the gram panchayat system and local governance long time ago. Local governance needs people who are educated and understand the issues that concern them. A district collector who comes from another state or area would not be able to do that unless they are really committed.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:13 pm:       

 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:11 pm:       


Idle_yzag:


It will be like chandigarh and all the issues that go with it. Separation is best when it is clean in my opinion
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:08 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

numbers same unte development same kadu anedi na point tammi. I gave you examples of it. It does not work like that.

for example not literal figures
Telangana Andhra
English Schools(1956) 0 10
1966 10 20( added 10 in both cases)
1976 15 25 (added 5 in both cases)
1986 25 35 (added 10 in both cases)

now according to one way of seeing it
- you have added 25 schools in both areas, statistically same but not same right
- you can also take the actual numbers on both sides - ok there is a difference, so you know there is a shortfall there
- what about the actual cost that T incurred by not having those extra 10 schools and how many kids went uneducated etc?




It only means that the centralized Govt. did not do MORE to Telangana than Andhra, right.

If only local Govts had more powers, they would have had the visibility to identify what is needed, and what needs to be done in every nook and corner.

EVen with T, CM with all powers in Hyd, same thing will happen.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:08 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:



Okahyderabadi:




combined capital chesthe meeku yenti problem? Nalgonda, kmm (part) mem theskuntam, u take kurnool and anantapur, what do u say?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:07 pm:       

Krishna, Godavari lu MH lo start ayyavi kabatti saripoyindhi lekapothe

ma Nizam hyd state ni pakisthan lo kapalamannadu ma jeeva nadhulu dobbestunnaru indians maku seperate country kavali anevaru emo ee T nayakaulu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:04 pm:       


Katthi:




kathi mama kathi mama sep T voste.. nuvvu Ind vellipotaava..
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:03 pm:       

telangana doralu are very clever...villages towns lo annala bayam unnapudu welli hyd lo unnaru ...prathi year village ki wastaru polam ammukoni potaru hyd lo illu ..rents wastayi ... unna village polam meedh akodho goppo kavulu wastayi.... eppudu annala bayam ledhu so malli welli ma polalu ma ayya polalu ma tata polalu ani wagutunaru ....

kastapadewadiki doka ledhu ...division god manchidanukunte jarugutundhi kadanukunte jaragadhu ...annitiki answer is unknown utlimate ...God

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:02 pm:       


Vjavasi:

did fellow telanganites treated everybody in telangana with dignity?


precisely the point. they were totally suppressed by the jamindari, patel/patwari system and needed all the help - NTR was the only one who seemed to understand and abolished the system but left it midstream without sufficient support system
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:02 pm:       


Katthi:

Ippudu ikkada GC and H1 rule type.. more stright rules.. first american ledu annappude.. foreigner.. T lo kuda ala undali.. lekunte.. india lo college graduate usa lo next day untaru.. degeree kagane.. Americans chipp setha pattukuntaru..



dhenamma kniavandi inka sep country kavali ani, oka country lo vunnavalaki H1, GC lol
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:01 pm:       


Katthi:

andhra vallaki geographical ga advantage ayyindi.. enough water ..good land.. good crop..

T lo adi ledu.. of course ala lekane.. andhra vallu vassi business chesharu.. T vallu kulilu ayyiru..




nizam rule lo deshmukhs dora vudnevaru. they have exactly same advantages as a FC rich andhra guy has


Katthi:

kaaani govt should have drawn line and made T as seperate region where investment and job .. revenue should be shared and T should have primary preference.




independance time lo 90% posution same. ika line draw cheyytam eda vundhi


Katthi:

Ippudu ikkada GC and H1 rule type.. more stright rules.. first american ledu annappude.. foreigner.. T lo kuda ala undali.. lekunte.. india lo college graduate usa lo next day untaru.. degeree kagane.. Americans chipp setha pattukuntaru..

alantidi T lo jarigindi.. I am not blaming Andhra people.. but Govt should have controled it..




ippudu anthe ga all zonal postions belong to zones. state levelcadre okkadanike ee zone issue ledhu. actually this is determintel to merit and i dotn support it.


krishna zilla vadu AEE/JE oka panchayati raj lo join ayithe, it will take him 20+ years to be come DE. if he is ever lucky he can become EE by end of his retirement.

ade KMNGR wadu 5 years lo DE 12-15 years lo EE, 20 years lo SE avvuthadu because of these zonal regulations.

iddharu rasindhi same exam chesedhi same work. idi discrimination ante?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:01 pm:       


Idle_yzag:


suppose for suppose T vasthe, hyd T ki velthe... appudu kuda hyd revenue hyd ki karchupedathar? lol

capital city lo revenue high vuntundhi for obvious reasons, koncham yekkuv invest cheyali kani, motham yendhuku invest chestharu hyd lo


same logic. will you have a problem with separate state is invested in hyd only ? i think that would be UT
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:00 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

we still did not agree, the disparity issue still remains.




YES. The disparity will exist for ever, unless ppl see that the real guys to blame are politicians, not ppl from some other region.

Disparity will not disappear with new states, and new boundaries.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:00 pm:       


Vjavasi:

and policy costs kindha atleast next 10 years hyd revenue nbi share cheyyamantunnam....i think it is fair and very resonable.


I am ok with that
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:58 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

dhenamma jeevitham

asalu meeku 56 mundhu yenni schools vunnai, yentha mandhi teachers vunnaru, yenni acres land cultivate chesevaru, yentha pandinchevaru, ippudu yenni vunnai?

nilabatti konestav mamalani nuvvu sebuthunava papi ga nuvvu jink vi ani... nuvvu jinkavi kadi nakka vi, kikiki




ok so malla the ball rolls
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:58 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

kadu eni nenu analedu kada tammi. i gave you the social, educational background of the people in telangana and the reason why special privileges were sought for the people to come on par with others. You bring in the migration theory of where capital is people will go there etc and then claim the revenue figures and say everybody has a right. What about the right of the people who lived there before? are you equating them to animals or prescribe the darwin's principle for them?. I am sorry I disagree with you here.




asalu telangana vallaki hyd meedha rights levu ani annatleduga.....they have the first priority, but coastal andhra last 40 years loose aina time,capital and policy costs kindha atleast next 10 years hyd revenue nbi share cheyyamantunnam....i think it is fair and very resonable....also my point is coastal andhrite are not the reason for the so called backwardness of telangana region....the interaction with andhrites at the end benefited them though in some cases telananites at lower social ladder might have faced humiliation form andhrites at personal level in and around hyd......did fellow telanganites treated everybody in telangana with dignity?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:56 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

yee basis medha schools penchali oka pusthakam rayandi, lol.. egg medha ekkalu pekkuthunattu anipinchatam ledha?


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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:56 pm:       


Indiarocks:

Andhra ppl will blame their politicians, and T ppl should blame their politicians, instead of blaming Andhra ppl.

Hammayya.


we still did not agree, the disparity issue still remains.


Katthi:



Katthi:


katti lanti points, same points raised many times but as usual chata kani vallu, uzeless pelows etc arguments vachinavi.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:55 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:


now according to one way of seeing it
- you have added 25 schools in both areas, statistically same but not same right




yee basis medha schools penchali oka pusthakam rayandi, lol.. egg medha ekkalu pekkuthunattu anipinchatam ledha?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:53 pm:       


Katthi:

alane.. T vallu uneducated and not rich. From basic roots they should be developed adi jaragaledu..


dhenamma jeevitham

asalu meeku 56 mundhu yenni schools vunnai, yentha mandhi teachers vunnaru, yenni acres land cultivate chesevaru, yentha pandinchevaru, ippudu yenni vunnai?

nilabatti konestav mamalani nuvvu sebuthunava papi ga nuvvu jink vi ani... nuvvu jinkavi kadi nakka vi, kikiki
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:53 pm:       


Indiarocks:

saru comparison chestunnappudu the same numbers mean the same development in T and A, kaada? coz its the same Govt. they are under. So at least to say that one area is not discriminated from the other, at least to say that Govt.s did the same (••••••) work in both areas, statistics are good. And why are you assuming that they are not being presented properly




numbers same unte development same kadu anedi na point tammi. I gave you examples of it. It does not work like that.

for example not literal figures
Telangana Andhra
English Schools(1956) 0 10
1966 10 20( added 10 in both cases)
1976 15 25 (added 5 in both cases)
1986 25 35 (added 10 in both cases)

now according to one way of seeing it
- you have added 25 schools in both areas, statistically same but not same right
- you can also take the actual numbers on both sides - ok there is a difference, so you know there is a shortfall there
- what about the actual cost that T incurred by not having those extra 10 schools and how many kids went uneducated etc?

simple example here i know it does not represent the universe and we can bring 3M's here and try to explain the significance however on the ground people have been deprived. I am not saying it does not happen in other areas it could have but T it has happened more.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:53 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

what does that prove? A&R kalisi 184 MLA's ,ministers mp's unnaru why did the industries not come up in your areas? We have all collectively failed and have created disparities.




YESSSSSSSSSS............

That is why stop blaming the other guy.

Andhra ppl will blame their politicians, and T ppl should blame their politicians, instead of blaming Andhra ppl.

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andhra vallaki geographical ga advantage ayyindi.. enough water ..good land.. good crop..

T lo adi ledu.. of course ala lekane.. andhra vallu vassi business chesharu.. T vallu kulilu ayyiru..

ikkada andhra valla tappu kaadu.. idi investment strategy.. kaaani govt should have drawn line and made T as seperate region where investment and job .. revenue should be shared and T should have primary preference.

Ippudu ikkada GC and H1 rule type.. more stright rules.. first american ledu annappude.. foreigner.. T lo kuda ala undali.. lekunte.. india lo college graduate usa lo next day untaru.. degeree kagane.. Americans chipp setha pattukuntaru..

alantidi T lo jarigindi.. I am not blaming Andhra people.. but Govt should have controled it..
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:51 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

merge kaka mundu andhra revenue ekkada undi, hyderabad state revenue ekkada undi choodandi.




annai revenue ante janala naddi virichi taxes vesi collect chesinda?? Is that an indicator of the financial situation of the region? Why are you not comparing GDP, or Per-capita?

70% tax vesthe world lo highest revenue vastundi emo indian Govt. ki. Ala chesi India richest, super power ante pothundi emo.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:48 pm:       


Katthi:

alane.. T vallu uneducated and not rich. From basic roots they should be developed adi jaragaledu..





who is rich in andhra. very few people belonging to fc castes. same case with T also. where does all doras money gone into?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:46 pm:       

Idly lantodu okkadu salu.. Izag lo ippatike sontha andhra vallane nokkeshadu..

kotlu gadinchadu..
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:44 pm:       


Indiarocks:

110 Telangana MLAs, Ministers, MPs, CMs, PM.


what does that prove? A&R kalisi 184 MLA's ,ministers mp's unnaru why did the industries not come up in your areas? We have all collectively failed and have created disparities.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:42 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

They are numbers but should be presented in such a way that it reflects the actual development rather than just figures. Apparently we both do not agree on it so as I said in my other posts yesterday lets leave it at that




saru comparison chestunnappudu the same numbers mean the same development in T and A, kaada? coz its the same Govt. they are under. So at least to say that one area is not discriminated from the other, at least to say that Govt.s did the same () work in both areas, statistics are good. And why are you assuming that they are not being presented properly
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:42 pm:       

Simple logic ardam chesukondi bi

Adavilo pululani jinkalani oke region lo pedithe emaitundi.. oo 10 years taruvatha jikalu undavu only pululu balasi untai..

alane.. T vallu uneducated and not rich. From basic roots they should be developed adi jaragaledu..

as usually Andhra vallu konchem educated and they have money to do business. no motions and emotions in business. T valla ni kulilu sesharu.. akramincharu..

Okati seppandi.. NRi fund tho india lo agriculture land konoddu ani rule undi.. enduku.. puli jinka ni tinnattu.. illu elli dabbu veda jalli.. agri lands ni koni dobbutharu.. mottam akkada ammukunnodu kuli ayyi india lo agriculture lekunda potundi..

ilanti rules eee T region lo pettalsindi.. Gentlemen agreement ilanti vati mida ne prepare ayyindi kaani tungalo tokkaru..

Finally modern.. educated .. rich andhrites took over Telangana people.. bought their lands .. and made T people become more poor..

ikkada andhra vallani blame kaadu kaaani.. Being govt .. they should have drawn line to take over other region by one region. Ila jaraga kunda undalsindi..

Edi kuda vertical development chudaru govt.. Horizental development chustaru.. anni kulalu, mathalu, region should develop accordingly.. kaani ala jaragaledu T lo..
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:41 pm:       


Vjavasi:

bro....In telangana taxes might be there on agriculture and toddy before merger....in coastal andhra there was no tax on agri.....if coastal andhra was seperate they would have found sources to improve revenue


kadu eni nenu analedu kada tammi. i gave you the social, educational background of the people in telangana and the reason why special privileges were sought for the people to come on par with others. You bring in the migration theory of where capital is people will go there etc and then claim the revenue figures and say everybody has a right. What about the right of the people who lived there before? are you equating them to animals or prescribe the darwin's principle for them?. I am sorry I disagree with you here.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:40 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

when one area was deprived of basic needs and needed to be developed the other side looked away and only indulged in their self preservati




why did T movement is more agressive in KMNG, WGL than MBNR, ADLB, NGL, KMM before Dec 9.

T movement lo vunna variety emitante asalu oka vela nastamu antoo jarigithe ekkuva jargindhi south telanagana ki
be it mbnr, kmm,nlg.

demand chesedhi north telanagana vallu (kmngr,wgl,parts of medak)

ade majic mantra.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:38 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

when one area was deprived of basic needs and needed to be developed the other side looked away and only indulged in their self preservation(strong words these but it is my personal opinion)




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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:36 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

mari hyderabad ki enduku vachinatto state merge ayinappudu? 6 years kurnool lo tents kinda pani chesinaru.





kurnool was not fit to be capital....but for political reasons the6y made it capital....anthe kaani coastal andhra lo hyd lanti cities, buildings leka kadhu...vja lo independence ki munde airport vundhi....early 1900's lone andhra university mundhi vja lo petti taravatha vizag shift chesaru....too much railway connectivity vundhi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:36 pm:       


Indiarocks:

Annai I use numbers,statistics everyday in my job, and if you know what you are doing they do speak the truth. And it is the same numbers, and statistics that are used to design many of the systems that you use everyday. Many times even systems that mean life and death. Edo statistics boothu ani oka blanket statement icheste saripodu.


and same here. I explained my stand on statistics. They are numbers but should be presented in such a way that it reflects the actual development rather than just figures. Apparently we both do not agree on it so as I said in my other posts yesterday lets leave it at that
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:36 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

when one area was deprived of basic needs and needed to be developed the other side looked away and only indulged in their self preservation(strong words these but it is my personal opinion)


malli adhe gola, mana hyd lo 60% revenue, rest of the dists lo 15% revenue veskunna... 75% T lo vasthunna, ee deprived gola podhu... chasss
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:35 pm:       


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ee gola anthaa enduku annai inka..janaallo division vachesindhi..so state vidagotteyyatame correct.... kani Andhra/Seema vaallu Hyd matter ni matram vadhileyyaru sure ga...appudu matram vuntadhi godava




Ee gola em chusaru, repu nijamga vidagodithe appudu start autundi asalu godava. Trust me we have not seen anything.

Prathi daniki valla incompetence, corruption ni cover up kosam A politicians T ni antaru, T vallu A ni already antunnaru.

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:34 pm:       


Simpletruth:

actual telugu history teesukunte guntur amaravati,westgodavari veni are capitals for many centuries (till 14-15th). same case they did with hyderabad also. when they are arguing with center and madras presidency that states based on linguistics is good, how come they ignore hyderabad state(not telangana) which consists of more than 1/3 of telugu people.




inka koddiga venakki velte satavahana's had their capital in karimnagar district. kakatiya's had their capital in orugallu. we can go on and on and argue that since the entire andhra was under raja raja narendra or the chalukyas or some other kings we cannot even claim a linguistic state. I see your point of one language one state but with that came a responsibility when one area was deprived of basic needs and needed to be developed the other side looked away and only indulged in their self preservation(strong words these but it is my personal opinion)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:32 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

merge kaka mundu andhra revenue ekkada undi, hyderabad state revenue ekkada undi choodandi.




bro....In telangana taxes might be there on agriculture and toddy before merger....in coastal andhra there was no tax on agri.....if coastal andhra was seperate they would have found sources to improve revenue
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:32 pm:       


Coolmac:

Telugu jaathi rendu states ga vundakudadhaa annai? idhem rule?




vundadkudadu. we did not reach that proportion where we have to divide on a numerical basis. world lo bharateeyalaku okate country adi india. india lo telugu vallaki okate state adi andhra pradesh.

india lo oke lingustic group ki multiple state vundalante, lets us divide
tamilians(madhura state demand vundhi)
karantaka(mysore state demand vundhi)
marathis(vidharbha state demand vundhi)
Bengalis(darjeeling state demand vundhi)
oriyans, gujaratis ................

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:31 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

statistics anevi pedda boothu unless it brings real tangible benefits, you claim they did and I claim it did not. So we will leave it to the 'experts' to decide.






Real tangible benefits? Compare chesetappudu numbers mean the same to both sides kadaa? Inka real tangible benefits enti?

Annai I use numbers,statistics everyday in my job, and if you know what you are doing they do speak the truth. And it is the same numbers, and statistics that are used to design many of the systems that you use everyday. Many times even systems that mean life and death. Edo statistics boothu ani oka blanket statement icheste saripodu.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:28 pm:       


Simpletruth:

telugu jathi prasthanam teesukunte 1000 of years history vundhi. madhyalo oka 10 years godava vachindani vidigodithe ela.




Telugu jaathi rendu states ga vundakudadhaa annai? idhem rule?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:27 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

statistics anevi pedda boothu unless it brings real tangible benefits


avunu meeru sebithe nijam, vere vallu chebithe boothu, JP lekkalu nammaru, undavalli lekkalu nammaru, chudam SKC lekkalu ayna nammutharu emo lool
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:25 pm:       


Coolmac:

ee gola anthaa enduku annai inka..janaallo division vachesindhi..so state vidagotteyyatame correct




this is not correct. telugu jathi prasthanam teesukunte 1000 of years history vundhi. madhyalo oka 10 years godava vachindani vidigodithe ela.

take usa. north south war lo millinos chanipoyaru. division vunnadhi ani divide chethe ee roju ila super power ayyedha?

see harish rao interview. till dec 9th, they are not sure that they will get telangana.

ee sari vudyamamu baga chochukupoyindhi it will take more time to unravel it.

integration, development sarigga karagakapotamtho vachina problem idhi.


YSR plan chesinattu anni tier 2, tier 3 cities ni develop chethe ee godava ade poddhi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:25 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

merge kaka mundu andhra revenue ekkada undi, hyderabad state revenue ekkada undi choodandi.




yentha vundi saami, meermina sontha sampdinchara yenti? aa nizam vadu dhagredhee kada, vadni vellgottindhi kuda razakar movement v'wada nunchee to join in india... aa lekkalu theskoni vachi dheniki link pedatav yenti?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:25 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:




bedar!
state vididpothe vache labhalu oka padi cheppu be it irrigation or IT or some other sectors

alage nastalu kooda cheppu
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:24 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

madras nunchi vidipoyindi 53 lo T vallu kalisindhi 56 lo... 6 yrs yekkada nunchi vachindhi?


you are right , it was 3 years my mistake
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:22 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

first dev annaru, stats bayatiki vasthe, gup sup sodabuddi athamgouravam, lol


statistics anevi pedda boothu unless it brings real tangible benefits, you claim they did and I claim it did not. So we will leave it to the 'experts' to decide.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:21 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

6 years kurnool lo tents kinda pani chesinaru.




madras nunchi vidipoyindi 53 lo T vallu kalisindhi 56 lo... 6 yrs yekkada nunchi vachindhi?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:21 pm:       

HYD some parts of WGL, NLG, MEDAK kalipi seaparte hyd state,

migilina distsrics plus andar lo konni kalaipi kalipi separate T

rest of kosatandra , seema kalipi separte andra cheste doola teeripoddi!!!
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:20 pm:       

OkeHy,

its a misconception that andhra leaders wanted to merge just for hyd buildings. some andhra leaders made many sacrifices for gettinga state for telugus. they wanted to assure seema brothers about thier future hence wanted to start a capital in seema.

actual telugu history teesukunte guntur amaravati,westgodavari veni are capitals for many centuries (till 14-15th). same case they did with hyderabad also. when they are arguing with center and madras presidency that states based on linguistics is good, how come they ignore hyderabad state(not telangana) which consists of more than 1/3 of telugu people.

Actually there are still 15-20% of telugu population outside ap. due to some compromises, we lost parts of telugu lands to orissa, MK, KN.

"vishalandhra lo prajarayma" is a famous slogan at that time. leaders truly believed that as a linguistic state, we can be prosperous and it was proved true also.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:20 pm:       


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merge kaka mundu andhra revenue ekkada undi, hyderabad state revenue ekkada undi choodandi.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:18 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

how much of the land is available for factories and industry construction in coastal areas tammi? if it was available why did they not use it? that is my question?




bochadu vunnai, only one reason CAPITAL... adhi akkada lekapothe andhra vallu kuda pedha lekka chesevallu kadu, ofcourse capital T lo lekapoyi vunti ee atmagourvam v'kaya ani slogan kuda legichedhi kadu

first dev annaru, stats bayatiki vasthe, gup sup sodabuddi athamgouravam, lol
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:17 pm:       



Vjavasi:

6 months lo vatini minchoina buildings kattochu


mari hyderabad ki enduku vachinatto state merge ayinappudu? 6 years kurnool lo tents kinda pani chesinaru.

manam ikakda kottukunte emostadi tammi, state vastado rado telavadu, modalities emitivo telavadu lets wait and watch how it will happen
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eppudu kotha joke endante only settlers pillalu bagupaddaranta as settlers looted telangana asalu ardam pardam ledhu wagudiki ...andra nundi wachindhi ekkuvaga teachers and wallani techindhi Nizam ...ma degara ithe wallaki quarters kuda icharu ...eppudu koncham bagupaddaka antha madhi ante it looks like crying




ee gola anthaa enduku annai inka..janaallo division vachesindhi..so state vidagotteyyatame correct.... kani Andhra/Seema vaallu Hyd matter ni matram vadhileyyaru sure ga...appudu matram vuntadhi godava :-)
 

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Okahyderabadi:

private industries started in late 80's tammi, nuvvu appudu inka puttinavo ledo telavadu naku. All you know about hyderabad is what happened in the last 15-20 years. Ummadi asthi ani kalupukunte saripodu, if that is the case then all other areas should have been equally developed. Disparities in development is what caused all these issues.




okkapakka 60% revenue vasthundi hyd ani chebuthunaru, migilina revenue 25-15% share veskunna, maku ravalsina 25% in hyd icheyandi... mee mohalu kuda sudam...

80s lo vachevi yenti... meere kada lsist release chesaru hyd lo vunna companies anni Andhra vallave ani, mare 60% revenue ma nunchi generate ayinattu kada?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:14 pm:       


Vjavasi:

andhrites would have bargained their share of central industries and institutes apart from their own govt investments in coastal andhra.


how much of the land is available for factories and industry construction in coastal areas tammi? if it was available why did they not use it? that is my question?


Vjavasi:

.If hyderabad revenue is only for hyd


what is the revenue from the rest of the state and how much was spent there? figures mana indiarocks tammi deggara undali check cheyandi
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:13 pm:       

eppudu kotha joke endante only settlers pillalu bagupaddaranta as settlers looted telangana asalu ardam pardam ledhu wagudiki ...andra nundi wachindhi ekkuvaga teachers and wallani techindhi Nizam ...ma degara ithe wallaki quarters kuda icharu ...eppudu koncham bagupaddaka antha madhi ante it looks like crying
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:11 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

Harish rao emannadu? he said the hyderabad income will be used to develop T but at the same time he was willing to share the infrastructure for few years so that a new capital can be built. It is there easier to nudge them towards sharing some part of revenue also ultimately when it comes to settlement. Asalu mottanike oppukomu ante issues will be back to where it began.




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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:10 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

pakkintodu anta, malli yem pettaru meeru ante okka company vundadhu hyd lo... anni valle pettaru, jobs valle D ani edupu start


private industries started in late 80's tammi, nuvvu appudu inka puttinavo ledo telavadu naku. All you know about hyderabad is what happened in the last 15-20 years. Ummadi asthi ani kalupukunte saripodu, if that is the case then all other areas should have been equally developed. Disparities in development is what caused all these issues.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:08 pm:       


Indiarocks:

Andhra lo districts development ki use cheyakudadu, T lo districts ki use cheyacha?




appudu pakintodu pullakura gurthu vasthundi... appanam ga Dobbedam ani ready... Hyd ledhu ante back to square 1 ki vastharu malli...
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school busses ekakda range lo undevi ...

evening wrokers adukodaniki courts indorr and out door indorr shuttle courts 2 okati ladies okati gents ki....BAlbawan for kids...

Ladies ki handicrafts nerpewallu .... used to have 2 big guest houses Indria dist ki wasthe stay cheyadaniki ma village guest house ...80's daka world wide tourists wachewallu as teh factory was No1 in Asia and No2 in world Brazil lo oka factroyt no1 ani cheppewallu

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:07 pm:       


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bottom line is the delta region did not want their agricultural lands to be taken away for industrial and other purposes so the easier way was to rough shod the land around hyderabad which was readily available after the nizam fled to start up the industrial complexes. In that process the city of hyderabad did grow but the lives of people around the city who lived in villages got destroyed, the water resources became inadequate. I agree growth brings up all of these issues for any city but the issue is why is that only Hyderabad was developed when other cities were on par 'as you said'.




if land was the issue...there is plenty of waste land around a city like vizag
....Rayalseema has got huge tracts of berren land with huge mineral deposits...if merger didin't happen coastal andhrites would have bargained their share of central industries and institutes apart from their own govt investments in coastal andhra....If hyderabad revenue is only for hyd them mumbai revenue should be spent in mumbai city only....there should be no central and state govt taxes for business in mumbai
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:06 pm:       


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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:06 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

meeru sampadinchindi pakkintodi function ki karchu pettali annattu.




Annai Hyderabad vallaki Karimnagar, Adilabad, ivanni pakkillu kaada? Manaki nachite kalipeskuntara?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:06 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

meeru cheppedi etla undante meeru sampadinchindi pakkintodi function ki karchu pettali annattu.




navvutharu mastaru, ummadi asthi ni dobbedam ante.... eekgadu harishrao gadu cheppadu, mem sethulu kattukoni vinali... idhi thege yevaram kadu

pakkintodu anta, malli yem pettaru meeru ante okka company vundadhu hyd lo... anni valle pettaru, jobs valle D ani edupu start
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:05 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

Harish rao emannadu? he said the hyderabad income will be used to develop T




Hyd income T development ki mathram enduku use cheyali. Andhra lo districts development ki use cheyakudadu, T lo districts ki use cheyacha?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:04 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

ottom line is the delta region did not want their agricultural lands to be taken away for industrial and other purposes so the easier way was to rough shod the land around hyderabad which was readily available after the nizam fled to start up the industrial complexes. In that process the city of hyderabad did grow but the lives of people around the city who lived in villages got destroyed, the water resources became inadequate. I agree growth brings up all of these issues for any city but the issue is why is that only Hyderabad was developed when other cities were on par 'as you said'.




simply coz, everybody thought Hyd was their capital. Vizag, Vijayawada, Tirupathi guys never had an attitude of competing against Hyd. Coz they never foresee this situation in which they have to fight for the capital, they thought was theirs for decades.

Annai, repu T form aithe Hyd ki migrations aagipothaya? Thousands of north indians work in Hyd, like any other big city. How does separate T solve this?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:04 pm:       


Idle_yzag:

capital income capital meedhe pettala? lol


meeru cheppedi etla undante meeru sampadinchindi pakkintodi function ki karchu pettali annattu.

Harish rao emannadu? he said the hyderabad income will be used to develop T but at the same time he was willing to share the infrastructure for few years so that a new capital can be built. It is there easier to nudge them towards sharing some part of revenue also ultimately when it comes to settlement. Asalu mottanike oppukomu ante issues will be back to where it began.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:04 pm:       

asalu joke endante ma village lo ambulences undevi for farms ..pamu katesthe ledha coolilaki emmmna avuthe 15 min lo general hospitla ki techewallu ...too good hosital now is vacent and left abandoned...oka cricut club football volleyball 5 basket ball grounds ....

english medium lkg to degree oke campus ...first govt english medium in state madhe...

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:00 pm:       


Sanman:

why not. have you seen hyderabad's traffic ? drainages ? water ? any expenditure you make on infrastructure is an investment




suppose for suppose T vasthe, hyd T ki velthe... appudu kuda hyd revenue hyd ki karchupedathar? lol

capital city lo revenue high vuntundhi for obvious reasons, koncham yekkuv invest cheyali kani, motham yendhuku invest chestharu hyd lo
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:00 pm:       

I dont know where went wrong...Biggest factories were established in Telangana ... Except vishaka steeel oka 200+ employer's unna factories anni in and around Hyderabad .... and in telangana ...
IDPL, HMT, Allwyn, NSF, Mosamjahi mills....

ma telangana leaers daddamalu kavadam and Babu lantodu watini the biggest one NSF lanti danni ammepadeyadma evari tappu?? mana ministers emi chestunaru?? elanti question adige mogadu ledu ...KCR politically is perfect baga rechagottiwadiladu ...

When these industries in telangana were established unfortunately educated ni Andra nundi nizam ee tepinchukunadu ...infact NSF ki engineers were from germany, england initially they palnned perfectly underground drannage system tho patu water supply, colonies current unit for factory and village temple, mosque and church clubs for workers ladies and officers billairds tennis court ...16,000 acaralu 3 cheruvulu oka multifacilities hospital english medium school with school busses from farms where farmers and farm managers live and a narrow guage for sugar cane factory ni te daniki ....enth amanchi villag eni m kudiparu just because of our oun telangana biddalu who were just eating kaju kismiss in Nizam club and never goign to assembly...

teliviga KCR now blames andra palakulu and people and say our ministers were powerless andra ministers were more powerful ....

any way sanka naki pona culture ...

eppudu evaranna walla abiprayam chepthe settler antaru and androdu antaru ...

baguceyyataniki bagupadatani evaru adagatam ledhu telangana provoking ki rajakeeyanike adugutunaru adugutam ... JAi telangana

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:57 am:       


Vjavasi:

bro..we don't need hyd but we need our share in it's revenue for next 10 years until coastal andhra catches up in investments
and business....35% revenue for 60% people is not acceptable


bottom line is the delta region did not want their agricultural lands to be taken away for industrial and other purposes so the easier way was to rough shod the land around hyderabad which was readily available after the nizam fled to start up the industrial complexes. In that process the city of hyderabad did grow but the lives of people around the city who lived in villages got destroyed, the water resources became inadequate. I agree growth brings up all of these issues for any city but the issue is why is that only Hyderabad was developed when other cities were on par 'as you said'.

I think what is reasonable is some revenue sharing for few years and then infrastructure sharing for few yrs for building the new capital etc and that is agreeable to everybody i think
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:56 am:       


Idle_yzag:

capital income capital meedhe pettala? lol


why not. have you seen hyderabad's traffic ? drainages ? water ? any expenditure you make on infrastructure is an investment
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:56 am:       


Sanman:

by whom ? if you feel like an outsider, why are you interfering in the determination rights of locals. if you feel like an insider, why are you talking about taking back tax revenues to a different place ?




see ahrish rao sattement. they want hyd as it revenues can be used in telangana. dio you expect that hyd revenues will only be used in hyd after t is formed.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:54 am:       


Vjavasi:

35% revenue for 60% people is not acceptable


by whom ? if you feel like an outsider, why are you interfering in the determination rights of locals. if you feel like an insider, why are you talking about taking back tax revenues to a different place ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:53 am:       


Okahyderabadi:

if 60% of revenue came from hyderabad it has to be spent there right? I do not see what is the issue with that.




capital income capital meedhe pettala? lol
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:50 am:       


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by setting up large public sector units central & state govts created an industrial infrastructure conducive for setting up medium and small scale units...even vja has got airport at that time.....if availability of land was criteria land around vizag was also cheap


why were they set up in hyderabad and not in other cities then?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:49 am:       


Okahyderabadi:

tammi how is that going to change if new state is formed, instead of being capital of AP it will be capital of Telangana. If you were born and brought up in Hyderabad you should not be worried at all. There is an opportunity to develop one more capital city elsewhere for the state of Andhra or whatever it will be named after that.




bro..we don't need hyd but we need our share in it's revenue for next 10 years until coastal andhra catches up in investments and business....35% revenue for 60% people is not acceptable
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:49 am:       


Vjavasi:

it's not the personal contribution of andhra people that matters....it's the investment of state resources in and around hyderabad by AP govt that matters....that investment is from combined coastal andhra and telengana people's money....again your comparision with chennai and banglore is flawed.....they are not AP capitals and no state money from AP is involved


if 60% of revenue came from hyderabad it has to be spent there right? I do not see what is the issue with that. please check pre-merger and post-merger revennue from T area
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:46 am:       


Sanman:

so what did hyd offer that those cities didnt. why were they doing a favor to hyd by setting up a business there ?





by setting up large public sector units central & state govts created an industrial infrastructure conducive for setting up medium and small scale units...even vja has got airport at that time.....if availability of land was criteria land around vizag was also cheap
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:45 am:       


Vjavasi:

what about time and policy costs for coastal andhra people?.....we believed hyd is our capital city and never bother when investments & policies are hyd centric....now we have lost our edge with loss of time, money with hyd centric policies.....these intangible costs are much more compared to revenue and money losses


tammi how is that going to change if new state is formed, instead of being capital of AP it will be capital of Telangana. If you were born and brought up in Hyderabad you should not be worried at all. There is an opportunity to develop one more capital city elsewhere for the state of Andhra or whatever it will be named after that.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:41 am:       


Sanman:

this can go on and on. like i said in the beginning i dont think T has a reason to blame A people for its problems. At the same time A people have no right to stop T's right of self determination





we don't want to stop them....but we want share in hyd revenue for atleast next 10 years
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:41 am:       


Vjavasi:

why do you feel coastal andhra was only villages during merger?....there was not much difference between hyd and cities like vja,GNT, vizag at that time


so what did hyd offer that those cities didnt. why were they doing a favor to hyd by setting up a business there ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:38 am:       

this can go on and on. like i said in the beginning i dont think T has a reason to blame A people for its problems. At the same time A people have no right to stop T's right of self determination
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:36 am:       


Sanman:

lets say someone is going to start a business and he has a choice between starting it in his village or a city. is he going to go to city to develop the city and make sure that the taxes he pays there reach his village or is he just seeing a better opportunity ?





why do you feel coastal andhra was only villages during merger?....there was not much difference between hyd and cities like vja,GNT, vizag at that time
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:34 am:       


Sanman:

and no industries were setup in andhra region ? no benefits of being coastal districts ? what was the capital of andhra like before merger ? who initiated the merger and why ?





FYI kurnool was not the only city in coastal andhra before merger....it was made capital because of political reasons....Vijayawada,GNT, vizag were almost on par with hyd when the merger happened......what major industries coastal got after merger?...just vizag steel....Film industry which was major business in that era was moved to Hyd
 

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Vjavasi:

so what if it is the fifth largest city.....not everybody in india goes to topmost city Mumbai and invest there....if coastal andhra had seperate govt it would invest it's time, money and resources even in some obscure place in coastal andhra...it wouldn't have bothered about hyd...they would have bargained for their share of industries and institutes from central govt....who will account for this time,money and policy loss?


lets say someone is going to start a business and he has a choice between starting it in his village or a city. is he going to go to city to develop the city and make sure that the taxes he pays there reach his village or is he just seeing a better opportunity ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:27 am:       


Sanman:

comon you are better than that. there was no collective and conscious will of andhra people to develop hyderabad. they went there because of opportunities it offered, participated in its growth along with everyone else, benefited like everyone else, paid taxes for the facilities they use etc. also remember that it was the 5th largest city in india then and it is now. it grew along with rest of india




so what if it is the fifth largest city.....not everybody in india goes to topmost city Mumbai and invest there....if coastal andhra had seperate govt it would invest it's time, money and resources even in some obscure place in coastal andhra...it wouldn't have bothered about hyd...they would have bargained for their share of industries and institutes from central govt....who will account for this time,money and policy loss?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:22 am:       


Vjavasi:


what proof you want?...we would have bargained for atleast half the central and state industries and institutes that were set up in and around hyderabad during 60's and 70's if AP was not formed with telangana's merger....you can't evaluate these time and policy losses.....state invested considerable amount of resources in and around hyd


and no industries were setup in andhra region ? no benefits of being coastal districts ? what was the capital of andhra like before merger ? who initiated the merger and why ?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:20 am:       


Vjavasi:

what about time and policy costs for coastal andhra people?.....we believed hyd is our capital city and never bother when investments & policies are hyd centric....now we have lost our edge with loss of time, money with hyd centric policies.....these intangible costs are much more compared to revenue and money losses


comon you are better than that. there was no collective and conscious will of andhra people to develop hyderabad. they went there because of opportunities it offered, participated in its growth along with everyone else, benefited like everyone else, paid taxes for the facilities they use etc. also remember that it was the 5th largest city in india then and it is now. it grew along with rest of india
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:11 am:       


Sanman:

are you suggesting that more money was spent on hyderabad than revenue collected from it ? show me proof of this and i will join samaikhyandhra movement





what proof you want?...we would have bargained for atleast half the central and state industries and institutes that were set up in and around hyderabad during 60's and 70's if AP was not formed with telangana's merger....you can't evaluate these time and policy losses.....state invested considerable amount of resources in and around hyd
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:09 am:       

one thing for sure is,

T people never integrated properly. Hyd lo airport vasthe none of andhara people know thought akkada vachidentira vijayawada lono, vizag lone raledhe? but T people krishnza zilla lo 1 degress college ekkuva vundhani years tarabadi discuss chesi ragalutha vundetollu.

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:05 am:       

what about time and policy costs for coastal andhra people?.....we believed hyd is our capital city and never bother when investments & policies are hyd centric....now we have lost our edge with loss of time, money with hyd centric policies.....these intangible costs are much more compared to revenue and money losses
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:03 am:       


Vjavasi:

it's the investment of state resources in and around hyderabad by AP govt that matters....


are you suggesting that more money was spent on hyderabad than revenue collected from it ? show me proof of this and i will join samaikhyandhra movement
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:00 am:       

biggest trouble for andhra people is,

They dont want seperate state. but they are the one who has to create everything froms cratch. If T forms, all t has to do is change name plates (paint dabba kahrchu tappa emi ledhu). they get almost 65% of revenue with < 40% of the population.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:00 am:       


Sanman:

this is going to lead to the discussion of what % of hyd revenue is andhra people contribution . i think it is safe to agree that you pay taxes where you live and where you get the benefits





it's not the personal contribution of andhra people that matters....it's the investment of state resources in and around hyderabad by AP govt that matters....that investment is from combined coastal andhra and telengana people's money....again your comparision with chennai and banglore is flawed.....they are not AP capitals and no state money from AP is involved
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:21 am:       

i dont think it is right to blame others for your problems. some people are more enterprising than others. but i also dont think andhra people should not object to separate state. it is not their choice. argument that they will lose claim to hyd revenue is not justified. they cannot make the same claim towards bangalore or mumbai. just because you are relatively more in number in hyd doesnt change the moral authority
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:02 am:       


Sanman:

can you provide some numbers




55% of our revenue is coming from hyd!!
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:01 am:       

okahyderbadi bedar!!

Injustice might have been done to T area as far as sagar when it finally took the shape.

Here the culprits are not andra people or politicinas

It is T leaders and politicians
When both the people form T as well andra agrreed upon one agriment that the water has to shared proportionately among T and andra, why the heck this T politicinas didn't object when it is shaping up and the distribution inproportion.

so the T leaders who is representing 45% in assembly should be held ccountable for that!!

even if state is formed where is the guarntee that this crooekd up polictians will deveelop the T

with this being said, justice is made to T in the form of HYD..

can you tell me in what way T will be developed once the split is happened??

we are in developig phase this revolution (be it IT or phrma, indutriliaztion) is now in very peak momentum, if we miss this we will be left behinf even far bacjward state like bihar...
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Vjavasi:

income from agriculture is nothing compared to industry and service sectors


can you provide some numbers

Vjavasi:

Gross irrigated area


i like how everybody talks about irrigated area but not profit per acre

Vjavasi:

that is the present situation....what if state divides?.....40% population will have 65% revenue and 60% population will get 35% revenue


this is going to lead to the discussion of what % of hyd revenue is andhra people contribution . i think it is safe to agree that you pay taxes where you live and where you get the benefits
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:42 am:       


Sanman:

agricultural income does not have tax.




income from agriculture is nothing compared to industry and service sectors....that exemption is applicable to telangana also....also Gross irrigated area in telangana is on par with coastal andhra...i don't think there is significant difference in agriculture income between telangana and coastal andhra....karimnagar is top paddy producing district in andhra today


Sanman:

37% of state revenue generated in hyd is spent on state not just in telangana





that is the present situation....what if state divides?.....40% population will have 65% revenue and 60% population will get 35% revenue
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:31 am:       


Vjavasi:

now telanganites should not complain about andhrites exploiting telangana.......both sides are evenly balanced now


i dont support the whole issue of who got what but that logic that you posted is flawed. agricultural income does not have tax. 37% of state revenue generated in hyd is spent on state not just in telangana
 

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 07:27 am:       

Eluru mama

Burra vundi mattadithe yedaina discuss cheyataniki anukulam gaa untadi but T'Gana discussions ochhinappudu antha oogipovatame janalu and they never think!

Prathi vaadu maaku Irrigation lo anyayam jarigindi jarigindi jarigindi ani mottukovatame kaani okkaranna how viable is irrigation now a days ani chudatledu!! Yeppudo 1960-70s lo ante industrialization peddaga ledu and heavily dependent on Agriculture.....but last 30 years gaa economy open up ayyi janalu diversify avuthunnaru! State income lo near 40% HYD nundi osthondi now a days and adi ye prantham lo undi and HYD lo yemi irrigate chesthunnam?

Gujarat lo SAURASTRA, Maha lo Vidarbha, K'Nataka lo Northern parts anni kuda aa aa states lo koddi venaka padi unnay! Atla chusukunte T'GANA lo antha bad yemi kaadu! But ye luchha CHIDAMBARAM gaadi vedava statement tho too much instigate ayi unnar janalu and discuss chese paristhithi kanipinchatledu gatherings lo!

Poni seperate ayi yemi sadisthar ante adi kuda yemi undadu.....malli political brokers sampadinchukovatame! Idantha chusaka naa korika okate.....HYD ni samarasyam gaa telchi T'GANA form cheseyali and ANDHRA, T'GANA ki aa tarvatha yelanti sambandha bandhavyalu unda kudadu.....ide naa korika!
 

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Eluri_kurradu:

okkalo discolu combined AP ki plan chesinappudu ekkada ekkuvaga pantalu pandutayo pariganana loki teeskuni untaru, Asala andhra telngana rayala seema ani seperate perlu undadame tappu
Gujarath lo kuda konni areas ki anyayam jarigindi antaru ..
Political nirudyogulu evarnaina marcheyyagalaru sunnitamaina amshalu etti
Truth is T lo political leaders nikamma gallu prajala kosam pani chesetollu kaadu appatiki & ippatiki
ilanti stats oka dist ki inko dist ki compare cheste andhralo untayi seemalo untayi TN lo untayi karnataka lo untayi ..




Righto. Disparities annavi anni chotla unnayi.

Repu T CM kooda okkade untadu kada, appudu kooda district madhya discrimination undada ante no answer.

Prapancham lo ekkada aina kotha state boundaries geesthe unna problem anni solve authayi ani namme chaduvukunna janalu undaru.
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Okahyderabadi:

appatiki AP form kooda avaledu how do you hold the people of erstwhile Hyderabad state responsible for that?




Where did I say that the Hyderabad state is responsible for that?

Okahyderabadi:

The same kind of treatment was later extended to the T region and now the same situation has arisen and people are asking to separate. Do you see the parallel?




Ippudu T situation, appudu Madras state lo Andhra tho polustunnara, it is not fair.
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:37 pm:       

andhraki Tn kerala karnataka lato poliste govt institutes public ltd industries nelakolpadamlo anyayam jarigindi alanti vati gurinchi poradandi sampadinchukondi ..

Congress has cheated andhra for at least 40 yrs mana vallaki pantalu pandutayi ane dheema tappa inkemi ledu .. ippudu TN/Karnataka kuda AP ki satiga Rice produce chestunnayi ante tappu evaridi?
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Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu ..

 

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:33 pm:       

chadukunnallu kooda T mayalo padi mattadutunnaru ante chus inkemi analenu ..
Veellaki delhi doralu TN doralu telugu mattade andhra janalkanna ekkuva
Delhi Tn doralu rendu rashtralu ga vibhajinchi maree dochukuntaru kaneeyandi ..
Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu
Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu ..

 

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:31 pm:       

tokkalo discolu combined AP ki plan chesinappudu ekkada ekkuvaga pantalu pandutayo pariganana loki teeskuni untaru, Asala andhra telngana rayala seema ani seperate perlu undadame tappu
Gujarath lo kuda konni areas ki anyayam jarigindi antaru ..
Political nirudyogulu evarnaina marcheyyagalaru sunnitamaina amshalu etti
Truth is T lo political leaders nikamma gallu prajala kosam pani chesetollu kaadu appatiki & ippatiki
ilanti stats oka dist ki inko dist ki compare cheste andhralo untayi seemalo untayi TN lo untayi karnataka lo untayi ..
Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu
Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu ..

 

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Indiarocks:

Ante ippudu emantaru, Andhra vallu Krishna, Penna linking oppose cheyadam thappa?


appatiki AP form kooda avaledu how do you hold the people of erstwhile Hyderabad state responsible for that? It was a struggle of telugu people who lived under the madras presidency. The people did not like the proposal because they feared the water that was diverted to Madras presidency would render their fertile land without water and they chose to separate. The same kind of treatment was later extended to the T region and now the same situation has arisen and people are asking to separate. Do you see the parallel?
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:40 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

bold lo pedite nijam aipotada tammi?




Abaddam kooda aipodu ga?

Matter quote chesanu kabatti, bold lo pettanu.
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Okahyderabadi:

The Hyderabad State engineers started the investigation of a major project on the river Krishna and detailed project reports were prepared at two sites namely Yeleshwaram and Nandikonda after studying various alternatives. The project as finalised provided for utilisation of 132 tmc of Krishna waters for the benefit of 10 lakh acres in Nalgonda and Khammam districts. The Hyderabad Government approved the project with only left canal and the entire planning, investigation and designs were completed for the Nandikonda site since the Madras Government was not interested at this site as they had already proposed the Krishna-Pennar project from an upper location to take water to Madras State. In fact this was one of the main reasons for the Andhras to start a big agitation which finally resulted in formation of Andhra State. It is only when separate Andhra State was formed in October, 1953, that on their request, the Nandikonda (named as Nagarjuna Sagar) project was made a joint project between Hyderabad State and Andhra State and an agreement was signed in 1954 for sharing of water across left and right canal. The Nagarjuna Sagar project was inaugurated in 1955 by the Prime Minister of India Shri Jawaharlal Nehru and the execution was taken up. A joint Control Board was set up to implement the project proposals as agreed by both the states.


which version will you support, obviously the first version because it suits you and people who support the T will support the second version.




Ante ippudu emantaru, Andhra vallu Krishna, Penna linking oppose cheyadam thappa?

Joint control board was set up to implement project proposals annappudu case ledu.
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bold lo pedite nijam aipotada tammi?
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Indiarocks:

Dam construction location nandikonda, near macherla annadi first five year plan lone decide chesaru, mari akkade undi gaa dam?

Mari cheppakandi mastaru, Andhra vallu docheste mee T MLAs, MPs, ministers em chesaru?


malla ade argue chestaremi tammi. damn nalgonda la unnada guntur district la unnada?

Indiarocks:

Muktyal Raja - If not for him, Nagarjuna Sagar would not have come to AP itself, forget about Telangana.

The Raja of Muktyala strived hard for the construction of the Pulichintala Project across the river Krishna, a dream which has not taken shape till today[3]. He came to know that the Government of Madras Presidency has made plans to divert Krishna river water to Madras by linking Krishna and Pennar rivers. He embarked upon a tour of nine districts of Andhra Pradesh and visited each and every village to collect the signatures of people in favour of Nagarjuna Sagar Dam project. He travelled through the thick and inhospitable jungles near Macherla to visit the site of Nandikonda and formed a team of retired engineers at his own expense to make the project plans and designs. The government of Madras tried to scuttle his plans for which the Raja established the 'Krishna Farmers Welfare Society' and exerted pressure on the Government of India in favour of the Nagarjuna Sagar Dam. The Government of India instituted the Khosla Committee but the committee refused to visit the site on the excuse that there was no motorable road to Nandikonda. The Raja gathered villagers and volunteers from twenty five villages and made a road by labouring day and night for a week at his own expense. The Khosla committee visited the site and found it to be the most ideal location to build a gigantic dam across the river. There were attempts to suppress the report of the Khosla committee. The Raja went to New Delhi and with the support of N. G. Ranga, Moturi Hanumantha Rao and Kotha Raghuramaiah resurrected the report, distributed it to important people and urged the Planning Commission (Government of India) to take cognizance.
Chandulal Trivedi, the Governor of the state of Andhra Pradesh urged the Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru to accept the report of the Khosla Committee. An announcement was made in 1954 for the construction of the project. The foundation stone was laid on December 10, 1955. Raja spent fifty two lakhs of rupees as a matching grant for the project construction. The waters of Krishna river were released for the farmers on August 3, 1966.




inka raledenti idi ani waiting ikkada, idi pedda boku ani nenu antanu what is your stand on it?

The Hyderabad State engineers started the investigation of a major project on the river Krishna and detailed project reports were prepared at two sites namely Yeleshwaram and Nandikonda after studying various alternatives. The project as finalised provided for utilisation of 132 tmc of Krishna waters for the benefit of 10 lakh acres in Nalgonda and Khammam districts. The Hyderabad Government approved the project with only left canal and the entire planning, investigation and designs were completed for the Nandikonda site since the Madras Government was not interested at this site as they had already proposed the Krishna-Pennar project from an upper location to take water to Madras State. In fact this was one of the main reasons for the Andhras to start a big agitation which finally resulted in formation of Andhra State. It is only when separate Andhra State was formed in October, 1953, that on their request, the Nandikonda (named as Nagarjuna Sagar) project was made a joint project between Hyderabad State and Andhra State and an agreement was signed in 1954 for sharing of water across left and right canal. The Nagarjuna Sagar project was inaugurated in 1955 by the Prime Minister of India Shri Jawaharlal Nehru and the execution was taken up. A joint Control Board was set up to implement the project proposals as agreed by both the states.


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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:24 pm:       


Ishan:




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Muktyal Raja - If not for him, Nagarjuna Sagar would not have come to AP itself, forget about Telangana.

The Raja of Muktyala strived hard for the construction of the Pulichintala Project across the river Krishna, a dream which has not taken shape till today[3]. He came to know that the Government of Madras Presidency has made plans to divert Krishna river water to Madras by linking Krishna and Pennar rivers. He embarked upon a tour of nine districts of Andhra Pradesh and visited each and every village to collect the signatures of people in favour of Nagarjuna Sagar Dam project. He travelled through the thick and inhospitable jungles near Macherla to visit the site of Nandikonda and formed a team of retired engineers at his own expense to make the project plans and designs. The government of Madras tried to scuttle his plans for which the Raja established the 'Krishna Farmers Welfare Society' and exerted pressure on the Government of India in favour of the Nagarjuna Sagar Dam. The Government of India instituted the Khosla Committee but the committee refused to visit the site on the excuse that there was no motorable road to Nandikonda. The Raja gathered villagers and volunteers from twenty five villages and made a road by labouring day and night for a week at his own expense. The Khosla committee visited the site and found it to be the most ideal location to build a gigantic dam across the river. There were attempts to suppress the report of the Khosla committee. The Raja went to New Delhi and with the support of N. G. Ranga, Moturi Hanumantha Rao and Kotha Raghuramaiah resurrected the report, distributed it to important people and urged the Planning Commission (Government of India) to take cognizance.
Chandulal Trivedi, the Governor of the state of Andhra Pradesh urged the Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru to accept the report of the Khosla Committee. An announcement was made in 1954 for the construction of the project. The foundation stone was laid on December 10, 1955. Raja spent fifty two lakhs of rupees as a matching grant for the project construction. The waters of Krishna river were released for the farmers on August 3, 1966.

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Some more history --

Nagarjuna Sagarproject was originally conceived by the British, around 1903, with Siddeswaram and Pulichintala as possible balancing reservoir sites. Unfortunately, these proposals did not materialize. Floods in Krishna river used to devastate Krishna district, while Guntur and Nalgonda were drought prone. As part of the first five-year plan, Nehru Govt. appointed Khosla committee to examine and report on the optimum and most beneficial utilization of Krishna River waters. The recommendations of the Committee, which were later endorsed by the Planning Commission in December, 1952, are to construct Nandikonda Dam across Krishna River with full reservoir level at +590.00 feet with canals taking off on either side. Water allocated to the Project is 281 TMC. The foundation stone of the Dam was laid by the late Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India on 10.12.1955. (It is worth noting here that Andhra Pradesh state was formed in 1956, after the dam foundation was laid. It is outrageous to spread the idea that there’s a conspiracy by the Andhrites in shifting the location of the site, when the state itself was not in existence.)
Another piece of interesting information on the background of Nagarjuna Sagar –

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A decision to undertake the construction of the Nandikonda Dam across the Krishna river near Macherla during the First Five-Year Plan was taken at a conference held on February 24 in New Delhi in which the participants were the members of the Planning Commission and representatives of the Andhra and Hyderabad Governments. Mr. V.T. Krishnamachari, Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, presided. Those present included Mr. Gulzarilal Nanda, Planning Minister, Mr. C.M. Trivedi, Governor of Andhra, and Mr. B. Ramakrishna Rao, Chief Minister of Hyderabad. The entire project has now been split up into sections. The first phase of the project which has now been accepted consists of the Nandikonda Dam, a left bank canal up to 108 miles (leading up to the river Munneru) and a right bank canal up to 60 miles reaching the river Gundlakamma. The cost of construction of the dam and the two canals is estimated at Rs. 80 crores. The project when completed is expected to irrigate nearly 20 lakh acres. The cost of the left bank canal which serves exclusively Hyderabad territory has to be borne by the Hyderabad Government while that of the right bank canal which serves the Andhra State will be borne by the Andhra Government. The cost of the Nandikonda dam will be shared by the two Governments in proportion to the waters distributed in the two canals. What exactly will be the second phase of the project is not yet clear. The cost of the dam alone is expected to be Rs. 40 crores while that of the 60-mile canal along the right bank will be about Rs. 18 crores. This part of the project is expected to irrigate 12 lakh acres. The Hyderabad canal will provide irrigation facilities for about 7.9 lakh acres.




Dam construction location nandikonda, near macherla annadi first five year plan lone decide chesaru, mari akkade undi gaa dam?

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:49 pm:       


Getafix:

maa nalgonda di diff situation




read as same sitiuation
 

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:45 pm:       


Ishan:



I hear ya.. maa nalgonda di diff situation.. inti edurunga krishna nadi kaani intlo matram taaganeeke neelllu undav... 20 yrs back start chesinrru SLC project to provide drinking water to NLG town.. still pani nadusthune undhi..
 

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:42 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:


In reality, the Mahabubnagar district never realized more than 6-7 TMC against their share of 15.9 TMC


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Okahyderabadi:



In reality, the Mahabubnagar district never realized more than 6-7 TMC against their share of 15.9 TMC. A perusal of the record of the utilizations of the Project reveals the facts. The Government on several occasions admitted openly that the main reason for shortfall in supply to RDS Ayacut is that there are a few construction sluices that remained unplugged in the RDS anicut built across the Tungabhadra River. The waters that were due to the RDS Canal pass through these unplugged holes of anicut downstream to the Sunkesula anicut to serve the farmers of the KC Canal. The KC Canal farmers are reaping the benefits of these additional waters that legitimately belong to the RDS farmers and made available to them due to the inefficiency and inability of the Government of Andhra Pradesh in not plugging the illegal construction sluices. Some efforts, which were made in the past to plug these holes in the anicut were made futile by the brutal force used by the KC Canal farmers. The net result is that while the KC Canal farmers are enjoying the waters of Tungabhadra much more than their legal share, the poor farmers of the Mahabubnagar district stand to loose
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Rajoli Banda Diversion Scheme - An agreement was entered in to between the Governments of the Madras and Hyderabad in June, 1944 in regard to scheme for the partial utilization of the Tungabhadra waters. As per this, the Rajolibanda Canal proposed by Hyderabad will be treated on an equal status with that of an existing Kurnool-Cuddapha canal (KC Canal). Further, it stated in the agreement that at the point of diversion of the Rajolibanda Canal the natural flow will be divided half and half between Madras and Hyderabad.

Thus, it is evident that the allocation to the KC Canal and RDS Canal should have been equal. However, for the reasons best known to the Government of Andhra Pradesh they have not strongly put forward the claim that both these Projects should be treated on equal footing, with the result the Tribunal allocated 39.9 TMC to KC Canal and 17.1 TMC to RDS Canal. Out of the 17.1 TMC the Karnataka’s share is 1.2 TMC and the rest (15.9 TMC) is the entitlement of the AP. (Mahabubnagar District of Telangana)
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Vjavasi:

telangana share taravatha 6.5 lakhs andhra share 14 lakhs etla ayyindi?....original agreement kante 1.4 lakh taggindhi telanganaki..


it is not even 6.5 lakh acres it is 5.32+.78

this is just one, none of the projects that were originally planned in T area took off
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Indiarocks:

annai asalu ee point of view ne boothu. Nagarjuna Sagar appudu Hyderabad, and Andhra were separate states. Left canal motham almost T lone undi, Right canal in Andhra region. So Hyderabad state paid totally for the left canal, Andhra state paid for the right canal. Dam meeda committee lo Hyd CM kooda unnadu. Both states shared the cost of the Dam. Inka anyayam enti? Ee jayashankar okka roju class lo lesson cheppi undadu kani, sambandham leni irrigation gurinchi matladutadu.


babu the construction of the dam started only after 1956 when hyderabad state ceased to exist. koncham alochinchi veyandi posts
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:36 pm:       


Vjavasi:

bedar Nagarjuna sagar work early 80's ki complete ayyindi........original plan kante 1.5 lakh acres acreage tagindhi telangana ki.....mari taggatam technicalities vallano lekapothe coastal andhra lobbying vallano clarity ledhu....but aa 1.5 lakh acres ee so called backwardness in telangana ki karanam ante nammasakyam ga ledhu.....jayshankar article lone vundhi 65% revenue telanga nundi vastundhi.....so business antha akkade vundhi....inka backward ante emi cheptham




Annai Jayashankar ni, Kodandaram ni lite teeskondi. IMO paisa ki pniki rani vallu.

Andhra Vs Telangana anna point of view lo dams evaru kattaru. Pettina money ki maximum acreage ela vastundi choostaru. Ila prati daniki kottuku chastaru ani vallaki em telusu?

Both left and right canals inaugurated in 1967 antunnadu ikkada.
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:24 pm:       


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Who knows?. The plan was done when Hyderabad was a separate state, and it had its share of people in the panel. So where is the question of injustice?




bedar Nagarjuna sagar work early 80's ki complete ayyindi........original plan kante 1.5 lakh acres acreage tagindhi telangana ki.....mari taggatam technicalities vallano lekapothe coastal andhra lobbying vallano clarity ledhu....but aa 1.5 lakh acres ee so called backwardness in telangana ki karanam ante nammasakyam ga ledhu.....jayshankar article lone vundhi 65% revenue telanga nundi vastundhi.....so business antha akkade vundhi....inka backward ante emi cheptham
 

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:15 pm:       


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Who knows?. The plan was done when Hyderabad was a separate state, and it had its share of people in the panel. So where is the question of injustice?
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:10 pm:       


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This part of the project is expected to irrigate 12 lakh acres. The Hyderabad canal will provide irrigation facilities for about 7.9 lakh acres.





telangana share taravatha 6.5 lakhs andhra share 14 lakhs etla ayyindi?....original agreement kante 1.4 lakh taggindhi telanganaki..
 

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 05:48 pm:       


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share for andhra and telangana in nagarjuna sagar is 70:30 respectively....ikkada konchem telangana ki anyayam jarigindhi




annai asalu ee point of view ne boothu. Nagarjuna Sagar appudu Hyderabad, and Andhra were separate states. Left canal motham almost T lone undi, Right canal in Andhra region. So Hyderabad state paid totally for the left canal, Andhra state paid for the right canal. Dam meeda committee lo Hyd CM kooda unnadu. Both states shared the cost of the Dam. Inka anyayam enti? Ee jayashankar okka roju class lo lesson cheppi undadu kani, sambandham leni irrigation gurinchi matladutadu.

A decision to undertake the construction of the Nandikonda Dam across the Krishna river near Macherla during the First Five-Year Plan was taken at a conference held on February 24 in New Delhi in which the participants were the members of the Planning Commission and representatives of the Andhra and Hyderabad Governments. Mr. V.T. Krishnamachari, Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, presided. Those present included Mr. Gulzarilal Nanda, Planning Minister, Mr. C.M. Trivedi, Governor of Andhra, and Mr. B. Ramakrishna Rao, Chief Minister of Hyderabad. The entire project has now been split up into sections. The first phase of the project which has now been accepted consists of the Nandikonda Dam, a left bank canal up to 108 miles (leading up to the river Munneru) and a right bank canal up to 60 miles reaching the river Gundlakamma. The cost of construction of the dam and the two canals is estimated at Rs. 80 crores. The project when completed is expected to irrigate nearly 20 lakh acres. The cost of the left bank canal which serves exclusively Hyderabad territory has to be borne by the Hyderabad Government while that of the right bank canal which serves the Andhra State will be borne by the Andhra Government. The cost of the Nandikonda dam will be shared by the two Governments in proportion to the waters distributed in the two canals. What exactly will be the second phase of the project is not yet clear. The cost of the dam alone is expected to be Rs. 40 crores while that of the 60-mile canal along the right bank will be about Rs. 18 crores. This part of the project is expected to irrigate 12 lakh acres. The Hyderabad canal will provide irrigation facilities for about 7.9 lakh acres.
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 05:14 pm:       

These figures clearly show that nearly 75% of receipts under the head ‘sales tax’, the single
largest source of revenue, and more than 55% of excise collections are contributed by Telangana
to the state’s exchequer.
The other major head of revenue consists of state’s share in central taxes and grants-in-aid. In
determining this share, backward regions of the state facilitate higher allocation by the
successive Finance Commissions. Therefore, Telangana is entitled to a higher share in these
revenues as well. Even if population, and nothing else, is taken as the criterion Telangana’s
share would be more than 40%.
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It is evident that the overall contribution of Telangana to the state’s revenue will in any case be
more than 50%. But, the expenditure incurred on this region has never been more than 25% to
30%. For instance:

more than 65% revenue comes from telangana ani cheptunnadu jayashankar....in that case telangana is far more developed than andhra/rayalaseema.....60% revenue vastundhi ante maximum business telangana lo jarugutundhi.....inka issue enti....akkada 25% maatrame spend chestunnaru ante adhi 40% cheste saripotundhi ga.....daani kosam state ni seperate cheyyatam enduku....65% revenue to telangana seperate aithe 60% population 35% revenue to andhra/seema etla survive avutaayi?
 

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 04:47 pm:       

www.telangana.org/Papers/Article10.pdf

ee jayashankar masi poosi maredukaya chestunnadu ga telangana ki jarigina anyayam.....vaadi chart lone Telangana lo Gross irrigated area is 2,241,591 and in coastal andhra it is 2,896,203 and in seema it is 778,353....population proportion ki taggatu gane vunnayi figures....only difference is in coastal andhra canal irrigation is more....share for andhra and telangana in nagarjuna sagar is 70:30 respectively....ikkada konchem telangana ki anyayam jarigindhi
Now telangana has crown jewel of deccan Hyderabad which is contributing 37% of total revenue, everything is even now...telangana ki past lo irrigation vishayam lo anyayam jarigina, hyd development compensated more than that loss. now telanganites should not complain about andhrites exploiting telangana.......both sides are evenly balanced now

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