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Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 3806 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
EVMs tho donga votes, booth capture , rigging apocha? elago cheppandi. BJP gelichinda KA Paul gelichada annadi kadu issue..dont look at the people who are complaining, there is obviously going to be a sour grapes syndrome..let congress loose 2 elections back to back and i am sure they will start complaining about EVMs. Look at the issue, There is no verifying mechanism if any fraud happens with EVMs, ballet paper tho ala kadu kada. Mr KCR tear down this wall!  | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4589 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
aa countries lo donga votes, booth capture, rigging etc unnaya? EC proved to be a reasonably independent org, esply after sheshan. Oka pakkana BJP states lo elections gelustondi, aina guddiga prati okkadu Cong support anatam.
alanti posts ki icons ye vestaru.kiki | ||
Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 3805 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: |
There is reason why many countries which are more technologically advanced than India prefer ballet over EVMs. EC meeda aina Supreme court meeda aina guddi nammakam ettukokodadu. JP kurrod and ayana sishyud gola endo artham kavatamledu. Mr KCR tear down this wall! | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16342 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
idi matram too much asalu .. everytime I see an icon and if I dont I am surprised .. donno whats the fetish with icons in a disco dance .. LOL
simple .. nenu indaka cheppina point ardam kaleda? manipulation anedi chinna stayi lo use chestaru .. to bail them out in case of neck to neck contests .. bongulodi .. NTR 1994 lo gelichinattu clean sweep/landslide unte .. oka 2% votes manipulate chesina use undadu .. because popular verdict is too heavy for this manipulation to resist .. kaadantava? intha chinna point ela miss ayyaru rao garu ..? annai .. nuvvu keka .. sare kaani .. can EVMs be programmed? yes/no lo answer ivvu chaalu .. ali icons tho kaadu ! "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Simpletruth Junior Artist Username: Simpletruth Post Number: 796 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 71.255.234.26 Rating: N/A |
evm are dangerous. where result can be changed much easily if they get access to it. rigging cheyyalante oka booth ko roju pattudhi. where as in belos scenarios, electronics ni trust cheyyalemu | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4398 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
frustrate ayyi icons vesukoni satisfy avutunnav....points maatladu | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4588 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
super cover up. EC meeda nammakam ante, Election commision as an institution gurinchi matladaru. JP kooda matladindi Election commision gutincih | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4397 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
o.k naaku teledhu....neeku telisina kotha vishyalu cheppu....
so what?...nee point ento cheppu....nuvvu 6 years work cheste nakenduku lekapothe 30 years vunte naakenduku | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4396 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
appudu gopala swamy chief election commisioner.....inka MP,chattisgarh daggaraki vaste avi appatike bjp ruled states....it's difficult if the opposition is ruling.....aina prathi chinna chitaka election lo use enduku chestaru...general election under navin chawla was their target and they succeded | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4587 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
 . annai meeku electronics industry gurinchi ABCD lu teliyavu ani artham ayyindi.
kevv....  FYI, I am an electronics engineer. I have published papers in this field. I have studied electronics and signal processing for 10yrs, have been working in the field for 6+ yrs. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4586 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
EC meeda nammakam ledu, antha Cong tothulu aithe Gujarat lo Modi rendu sarlu ela gelichadu? Karnataka, Himachal, Uttarakhand, MP, Chattisgarh lo BJP Govts ela unnayi? Akkada kooda EC yega elections conduct chesedi. Konchem anna sense unda? | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4395 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
o.k ...you continue with your EC nammakamu and SC nammakamu....when you have a process which is less trasperant....what is the difficulty in changing it to more transperant process.....oka university loni phd's ee tayaru chesarante real time manufacturers and researchers ki pedda kshtam kaadhu
memu kooda adhe cheppedhi india lo corruption issue solve ayyevaraku paper ballots use cheyyali........EVM's to andharini konakrledhu few individuals at high level konte chalu...that's why it's more feasible and practical compared to manipulating Ballot boxes in strong room in large number of constituencies
booth lo test cheste lopala emi vundho evadiki telustundhi.....they can manipulate afterwards using a wireless device like cell phone without any physical contact | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4585 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Election mundu aithe police laki, officials ki teliyada, Elections ayyaka telustunda? Paiga we do not have a capability to "produce" any bluetooth devices in India. The one you are talking about has been researched by PhDs in the University of Michigan, electronic securiy experts. Given the time they can tamper "any" device. EC official bribe cheyadam etc, is a physical security, corruption issue. EC higher official enduku, counting jarige place lo andarini konesthe inka easy gaa manipulate cheyachu. EVM ni kooda test chesi reset chestaru, election mundu booth lo. I had enough of this. bye. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4394 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
election ki mundhu duplicate ballot boxes original ballot boxes to kalipithe andulo votes original vega padedhi......manipulate ekkada chestaro cheppamantunna.....ballot box lo votes ese mundhu andaru agents ki choopistaru adhi kalidho kaadho check cheyyochu | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4393 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
yes...you can start and complete this process much before elections with the help of an high ranking official in EC....adhe election time ledha strong room lo pettina taruvatha cheyyali ante you have to involve a number of low and high ranking officials in the conspiracy.....so adhi opponents ki easy ga telustundhi....where as you can manipulate EVM's much before the election process begins | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4583 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
EVM ni ela kalputaro, alage. Paiga duplicate ballot box, paper ni local ga produce cheyachu. Kani meeru cheppina duplicate EVM ni produce cheyadam antha easy kaadu. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4392 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
o.k duplicate ballot box, papers tayaru chesi votes ni etla manipulate chestaru konchem cheppandi.....aa duplicate boxes with duplicate ballots ni etla original vaatitho kaluputaaru? | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4582 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Indulo EC thappenti? EC sarigga lekapothe EVM aina, ballot paper aina okkate gaa. antha kastama ee vishayam artham chesukovadam. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4581 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
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ballot box, a normal iron box, ballot paper, ivi duplicate cheyadam easy aa, at the high level. All you need is to make a similar box, and a good xerox machine to duplicate the ballot paper. oka electronics, embedded systems expert ni pattukuni, oka bluetooth enabled device ni chesi, danni mass produce chesi, EVMs ni teesukochi vatillo ivi replace chesi, cell phone pettukuni vatini manipulate cheyadam easy naa. Ika collector, officers collusion etc, etc anni common factors for both cases. | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16337 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
who cares if BJP wins or not .. EC sarigga unda leda cheppandi chaalu .. may be LS geliche chance kuda EC sarigga untene vastundemo aalochinchukondi .. LOL "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4391 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
aa bluetooth enabled display EVM's election ki mundhe migatha EVM's tho kalapatam pedda kshtam kaadhu...one's that is done migatha process lo interfere avvalsina pani ledhu.......sandu chivara vundevadu manipulate chestarani evadu annadu....it could be done at a high level before elections.....atlanti devices tayaru cheyyatam pedda kashtam kooda kadhu.....radio device anedhi prapanchaniki emanna sari kotha invention aa....it can be easily manufatured or imported anywhere in the world | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4580 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
endi saami, ballot paper ni EVM kante ekkuva ways lo manipulate cheyachu. Aunu mundu arichi, taruvatha geliche sariki moosukunnaru. Repu CBN kooda anthe.
Akkada cheppindi EC functioning lopala gurichi kaadu. Physical security ni consider cheyakunda, oka electronic device ni ela tamper cheyacho choopincharu. Any device can be tampered. period. Aunu EC sarigga unte 50yrs nundi BJP ye gelichedi. kiki | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4579 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
bluetooth device tho manipulate cheyali ante, EVM ki bluetooth capability undali. Aa video lo choopinchindi an EVM that has been tampered, and modified by PhD researchers to have that capability. | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16335 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
so ballot paper ni manipulate cheyyochu kabatti .. EVM preferred aa ..??? nenu vaadalo .. nuvvu/JP vaadalo alochinchuko .. malli emanna ante .. Jayalalitha, Amarinder Singh, TRS examples ichadu .. kikk baavi gurinchi .. evado EC funtioning lo lopalani point cheste .. panche eggattukuni vachi press meet petti cheppina JP fan vi nuvve cheppali .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4578 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
cell phone to manipulate cheyali ante EVM display ni theesesi, bluetooth enabled display pettali. And this display is an invention by these researchers. mana sandu chivara radio shop lo dorakadu. And do do any of the manipulations, one needs to have physical access to the EVM. EVMs ni after election pettedi kooda strong room lone. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4390 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
enduku difficult duplicate EVM create cheyyatam.....mafia taluchukunte same ECIL lo pani chesina vallatone tayaru cheyistadi......ballot box manipulate cheyyali ante strong room loki vellali which is risky for the officials involved though it's possible but very unlikely....EVM ki strong room daka vellakreledu ee officials tonu pani ledhu cell phone lanti device to manipulate cheyyochu ani marokkasari nokki vakkanistunna | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4577 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: |
Kevv, official machinery ne manipulate cheyagaligithe ballot aina, EVM aina okate. kaada? Actually the EVM only makes the manipulation process difficult. JP di cover drive aa. Officers andaru cong agents, collectors andaru cong agents, govt machinery andaru cong agents, manakante different opinion unde andaru cong agents. Evaranna Modi tho photo digithe Cong targets them. Idekkadi baavi baboi. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4575 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
annai konchem vaadu, officer corrupt aithe, wrong EVM button nokkinatlu, ballot lo wrong place lo stamp esi lopala vestadu, lekapothe ballot ni lopala vesinatlu vesi chinchestadu. Guddiga oppose cheyatam ante idey. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4574 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Evarayya JP namasmarana chesindi. Physical security issues, corruption examples ichi, danni EVM issue antarenti? oka constituency ani decide ayyaka ballot box ni manipulate cheyalera in the same way? Aa manipulation cheyali ante physical access to the EVM/Ballot box undali. And this is a physical security issue, not an EVM issue.
Physical security lekapothe EVM aina, ballot box aina okkate gaa? EVM ni replace cheste ballot box ni cheyachu. But it is much more difficult to create a duplicate EVM, than a duplicate ballot box. | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16333 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
exactly .. aa JP .. aa videos lo .. 3rd minute lo ne clean chit ichi dobbadu .. kikk .. mana daivam septhe .. paatinchalsinde .. nee amma .. naaku aa videos chooste kaalindi literally .. shame on JP .. district collectors, bank officers, dist magistrates, EC officials kadigina muthyalu ainattu .. manam lothu ga pariseelisthe ata .. lol .. nee abba rey .. ade officials musalollaki help perutho .. vallaki kavalsina button nokkadam manam choodaleda? adi fair process ee naa? asalu issue ikkada EVM can be tampered or not anedi kaadu .. its about manipulating people's mandate with the help of official machinery .. cover drive baga aadadu JP ! "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4389 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
adhi mana desham(ee desham lo aina) lo sarigga vundadhu kabatte EVM's vaddu anedhi.....meeru cheppe rule of law kontha varaku aina patinche deshalone EVM's ni ban chesaru....rest mee EC meedha SC meedha nammakamu, viswasaneeyatha | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16332 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: |
aapu nee JP namasmarana .. EVMs ni .. oka constituency ani decide aipoyaaka .. easy ga manipulate cheyyochu .. wrt a booth .. avuna kaada .. daaniki officials corrupt aithe nakenduku .. machine ne gudisthe naakenduku .. process ni EC syamam ga pakkana pettachu .. no doubt .. idi neeku ardam avutonda .. common sense unda anedi .. u decide ur self .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5108 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4388 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: |
em argue chestav sami nuvvu.....EVM ni strong rooms loki vellakunda manipulate cheyyochu ani video lo choppinchadu...last 3-4 posts nunchi explain chestunna EVM's ni election ki mundhe manipulate cheyyochu ani....nee argument needhe annatu argue chestunnav.....oka indian election ni gelavataniki aa maatram cheyyalera...the cost is nothing compared to winning an election | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4573 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
EC shared all its security studies of the EVM with Hariprasad. Ikkada choosi appudu navvu. kiki. http://www.scribd.com/doc/6794194/Expert-Committee-Report-on -EVM | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4572 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
idi EVM issue kadu, physical security issue. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4571 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Donga EVM create cheyadam easy naa, donga ballot box, an iron box, create cheyadam easy naa. Ballot box ethuku pothe re-election pedatharu, EVM ethukupothe pettara? strong room loki vellaka ballot box teesukelladam kashtam, kani EVM ni teesukelladam easy naa? Malli matladithe Univ of Michigan lo PhD's design chesina bluetooth display ni edo mana sandu chivara radio shop lo dorukutundi annatlu cheptunnaru. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4386 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
akkada security vunte...aa taravtha distribution process lo donga EVM's add cheyyalera......duplicate ballots vunte 10,20, lekha 100 votes teda vastaayi...andariki open ga telustundhi especially opponents ki....ballot boxes ettuku pothe re election pedataaru....strong room loki ballot boxes ni teesukoni vellaka manipulate cheyyali ante many officials at every constituency should be involved which may happen in one or two constituencies but unlikely at a large scale in number of constituencies.....but EVM's can be manipulated seamlessly at different levels | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4570 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
ante deeeep gaa alochincharu. kiki | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4569 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
manufacture chesetappudu security undada? Ila aithe ballot paper manufacture chesetappudu kooda manipulate cheyachu gaa, duplicates create cheyachu etc. etc. Ivanni physical security issues. I repeat, physical access to the EVM is the key. | ||
Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: N/A |
result rigging cheyyadaniki adantha enduku swami.. vote count report chesevadu, opposite party agents, polling booth head, CEC, EC lani konesthe result manade kadaa.. we know from experience all these are corruptible.. vela kotlu projects lo mingesaaka konni kotlu veella mohana padesthe inko 5 yrs inkonni vela kotlu mingeyacchu kadaa  The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4383 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
video sarigga choodu avi election ki chala mundhu pettochu....ballot box ni manipulate cheyyataniki collector, officials involve kaavali....adhi risky and cumbersome....EVM ni manufacture chesepude manipulate cheyyochu....hope you understand the difference | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4568 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
The guy has good intentions. But he did something stupid. He put the election process, and thousands of indian taxpayer dollars at risk. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4567 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Abboo EVM lo chip pettadam, bluetooth display pettadam easy, it does not need any conspiracies to do that. Ballot box ni mayam cheyadam, andulo paper votes ni duplicate cheyadam kashtam kadu. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4566 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: |
 Ivanni EVM problems aa, problems with corruption, and officers aa? Em matladutunnavo artham unda? Officers corrupt aithe EVM, ballot box, inka edi pettina manipulate cheyachu. And it is common sense whether it is easy manipulate an EVM, or a ballot. It takes an embedded systems/eletronics engg to manipulate the EVM, and a common man to manipulate the ballot. | ||
Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: N/A |
tamper-proof machine thayaru cheyyatam theoretically impossible.. so the question to be asked is not whether EVM is tamper proof.. but, whether the taken security measures are enough to prevent tampering EVMs on a significant scale? And no one has shown such tampering under these conditions can be done yet.. alaa prove cheyyagaligithe then additional security measures can be considered.. on top of this, any significant level of fraud jaragaalanna they should get access to a lot of EVMs in each constituency to tamper with which looks highly unlikely.. and at any rate way better than paper ballots.. having said all that, this guy shouldn't be punished for he seems to have only good intentions.. anyone has any idea abt what the recent whistle-blower bill says abt such issues? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4382 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
How can you be so sure that it's not possible in an important general election?...experts kaavali, blutooth capability undali ivvani losy arguments....india lanti country mana chetilo vuntundhi ante...ivvani cheyyatam pedda kashtam kaadhu...this effort is negligible compared to winning a general election....ballot boxes votes vesetappudu manipulate cheyyochu.....aa taravtha manipulate cheyyali ante collectors and number of other officials should be part of conspiracy....EVM's ni choopinchadu ga oka special cell phone to manipulate cheyyochu...... | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16331 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
yes .. it is very much possible at a level of constituency .. surely possible .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16330 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: |
"lothu ga pariseelisthe .. ee bhayalaki .. ee sankalaki ye vidhamaina adharalu levu .." -LS JP JP cheppina points .. Cycling - ballot papers ni bayataki techi voting cheyinchadam .. yes .. Ballot papers process lo lopaalu unnayi .. but how does that correct EVMs of its negatives???? 1) EVMs ni pilot phases lo test chesi .. taravata country mottam introduce chesaru .. -> Pilot phase lo pass ayyindi kabatti EVM process fail avvakudada? Pilot phase lo akramalu jaragakapovachu .. general elections lo jaragavani gaurantee enti? avasaralani batti adda daarlu tokke avakasam leda? 2) Jayalalita gelichindi ani example ichadu .. fine .. gud .. manam ee logic ni koncham deep ga chooddam .. Jayalalitha ki against ga 2% votes EVMs lo manipulate chesi undachu .. kaani popular mandate landslide ga Jayalalitha favor ga undi undavachu .. like .. some 5-6% to offset those 2% manipulated votes .. possible ee kada???? antha matraniki EVMs ni manipulate cheyyaledu ani ela telusu manaki??? EVMs ni prati booth lo tamper chesaru/chestaru ani evaru vadinchatledu .. aa avasaram kuda radu political parties ki .. vaadana antha .. some gelupu kosam oka 5% booths/EVMs lo tamper chesina .. election results marcheyyochu country wide .. more importantly .. democracy ni khooni cheyyochu .. prati sari people landslide ga oka party ki vote chestaru ani emanna rule unda? neck to neck fights lo oka Lok Sabha Constituency/MLA constituency lo 5000-10000 votes manipulation chaalu, which is 2-3 booths or at the max 5-6 booths .. depending on how dense the population is .. not tough to manipulate to get a favorable result .. give it some thought .. BTW .. current Punjab CM Amarinder Singh kadu .. Parkash Singh Badal .. TRS example ki kuda .. paina Jayalalitha ki ichina example ee .. manipulation ni .. people mandate offset cheyyochu .. kaani tight fights lo adi jaragakapovachu .. 2) Randomization - Jilla ennikala adhikarlu, ennikala sangham paryavekshana lo jarugutundi ani cheptunnaru JP saaru .. 2 components here .. Election Commission officers and district collector collude avuthe .. aa district district mottam lo elections ni decide cheyyalera? Election Commission adhikarlu .. antha honest aa? mari alantappudu Navin Chawla .. CEC ela ayyadu??? District IAS lu .. corruption cheyyagala samardhulu ainappudu .. ethical ga election process choostaru ani guarantee emiti .. ippudu deep ga chooddam .. 2 levels of randomization gurinchi matladutunnaru JP saaru .. under the district collectors .. ye EVM ye constituency ki veltundo decide chestaru .. (may be infront of party reps) .. second .. at a constituency level .. ye booth ki ye EVM velthundo decide chestaru .. idi most crucial .. ee level lo randomization ki use emi undi? oka constituency lo okate order lo untaru contestants .. ee level lo 5% EVMs tamper cheste .. who will know??? is there a scope to do this or not .. chesara leda anedi taravata decide cheddaam .. chesenduku chance aithe undi kada .. migilina clean chits ki aatram ekkuva ayyindi JP goriki .. ! 1 "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4565 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Mafia antha planning unte, cool gaa ballot box ni marustaru gaa, daniki EVM, chip etc etc enduku? Mee mania meedi. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4564 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
It needs a display with bluetooth capability. Which needs to be installed onto the EVM. And mind you, it takes electronics/embedded systems experts to create all of these. But to manipulate a ballot paper a common man is enough. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4381 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
bedar nuvvu mafia ni takkuva ga anchana vestunnavu.....india lo dorakkapothe bayata nundi teesuku raalera?.....ECIL nundi EVM design telusukovatam antha kashtam kaadhu....physical access akkarledhu cell phone type instrument to manipulate cheyyochu....malla video last part choodu | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4563 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: |
annai is it easier in India to duplicate a ballot paper, or a display? Ballot paper ni ela mosam chestaro JP video lo cheppadu. How many in India can create and manipulate displays etc. I have read the original paper by these guys. I agree with all the technical details, but the key is getting physical access to the EVM. And some individual getting physical access to the EVM is a security lapse issue, not an issue with the EVM. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4380 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCOj1dElDY&feature=player_em bedded idhigo itla marustaaru | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4562 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Democratic ante dongalinchina EVM meeda pani cheyadama? EC public gaa announcement kooda icharu gaa papers lo EVM meeda questions unte raise your hand ani. Asalu oka individual daggaraki ekkada nundi vachindi EVM? Defense dept lo computers etc untayi. Vatini genius hackers hack cheya galaru, "if they get access to one of them". The key point is access to them. I read the paper written by Hari, and his colleagues. Physical access to the EVM is key here. And given the access, the EVM is difficult to tamper with than the Ballot box. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4379 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTSW-CA_x0&feature=player_em bedded | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16329 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
navin chawla ni .. shah commission vallu .. unfit for public service stamp vesaru .. aina sare .. EC bhesh ani certificate ichesaadu JP .. bullshit .. EC Hariprasad ki EVM offer chesindi scrutiny ki anedi official ga ekkada ledu .. adi mee JP okkade cheptunnadu .. LOL .. "maakochina viswasaneeya samacharam prakaram" ata .. Democratic ga prove cheyyadam ani enduku annanu ante .. he chose debate and demonstrate to prove the falliability of EVMs .. ika JP cheppina points gurinchi .. next post lo matladukundaam .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4378 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
navin chawla gaadi meedha gopalaswamy president ki report cheyyatam abbadama.......Daani gurinchi matladamanu JP ni...EC ni, SC ni nammali ani kaburlu cheppakunda | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4561 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
chip ela marustaru, ekkada program chestaru. Paper ni duplicate cheyadam kante chip duplicate cheyadam easy naa? Ye ballot box motham marcheste vela votes manipulate avvava? | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4377 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
EVM antha easy aithe kaadhu.....oka chip tho vela votes manipulate cheyyochu EVM's tho....ballot to antha easy kaadhu | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4560 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: |
odipoyadu kabatti CBN egurutunnadu. Gelisthe matladevada? Prathi daniki cong ni thittadame na, issue enti ani artham chesukovadam emanna unda? | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4559 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
ballot box lo guarantee unda? Paper ni manipulate cheyadam easy naa, chip marchadam easy aa? | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4376 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
evi examples...jayalalitha gelichindi kabatti EVM's tamper proof avutaaya......okka chip to vela votes ni manipulate chese scope vundhi...mee JP election ki mundhu process cheptunnadu....election tarvatha antha sarigga jarugutundhi ani guarantee emanna vundha?.....EVM's to minimum effort tho maximum manipulate cheyyochu election ni | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4558 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
vallani nammanappudu political party gaa undadam enduku? Political party ga unnappudu democratic institutions ni nammali, vatilo lopalu unte democratic ga protest cheyali, prove cheyali. Jayalalitha, sharad yadav, TRS inni examples unnayi gaa? | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4375 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
Supreme cort ni election comission ni nammali anta.....anumanincha koodadu anta....em vallemanna aaksham nunchi voodi paddara.....monne choosam judges mass copying.....nee rajyangam, viswasaneeyata kaburlu mundhu mafia ki cheppu | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4557 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: N/A |
Though the intentions are good, Hariprasad got hold of an EVM by "illegitimate" means. Democratic gaa prove cheyadam enti, mee dreams aa. But I support that he should be released without prolonging the issue. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4556 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 96.18.85.62 Rating: |
ooge mundu ee video choodandi mastaru. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzby5XRQsmw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNgSgfI_XUc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_5_39fv5I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_lzxRdCV5o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEtU_-L1nBI | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16320 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
Shame on Election Commission, Supreme Court, PM and Congress party .. Democratic ga .. EVMs lo lopalu unnayi ani prove cheste .. jail lo pedatara? malli pedda left-centre liberals meeru .. democracy aayuvupattu ani erri dash kadhalu cheptara? oka scientist ni .. democracy lo .. election process gurinchi matladinanduku .. behind the bars aa? shame on you parasites .. emi chesukuntaru .. ila immoral ga gelichi .. aa power tho .. thu mee bathukulu cheda .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4370 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 75.131.192.17 Rating: N/A |
http://www.dailypioneer.com/278669/Democracy-imperilled.html Democracy imperilled Sandeep B The arrest of Hari Prasad, a technologist whose research helped prove beyond doubt that Indian EVMs are vulnerable to fraud, sends out a dangerous signal: That anybody who challenges the Central Election Commission runs the danger of persecution and prosecution in our democracy Voting and freedom in a democracy are inseparable. Voting stands right at the top as one of the important ways people exercise their freedom to choose who they want to entrust with running their lives. Voting is what gives a Government the authority to govern and this authority must ideally be based on virtuous principles. Those who vote perform their duty in the fullest sense when they thoroughly understand exactly what the person they’re voting for truly represents. While this is not true of an average voter anywhere in the world today, there are thousands of such well-aware voters. Which is why the election process is sacrosanct in strong democracies. Which is also why the Election Commission of India is a quasi-judicial constitutional body with sweeping powers that are binding even on the President. Which is also why it is insulated from the executive. But in practice, it has been infected with the same decay of political meddling that plagues most institutions in this country. A recent instance of this malaise is the arrest of Mr Hari Prasad, technical coordinator and a key resource person of an independent citizens’ forum, VeTA. The organisation describes its purpose as “promoting Verifiability, Transparency and Accountability in Indian elections”. Mr Prasad is a technologist with expertise in electronic voting machines, now the de facto method of voting in Indian elections. He collaborated with a team headed by Mr Alex Halderman, a Computer Science professor at Michigan University and Mr Rop Gonggrijp, a security researcher from the Netherlands, on a project that involved detailed technical analysis of Indian EVMs. Their studies yielded conclusive, scientific proof that EVMs could easily be tampered with. They conducted several demonstrations across major Indian cities showing how EVMs could be rigged. On August 17, 2009, the EC invited them for a similar demonstration and laid illogical conditions under which the demonstration was to be done. What followed is detailed in the lucid Democracy at Risk (GVL Narasimha Rao, VeTa), also available as a downloadable book in pdf format (www.indianevm.com). Mr Halderman captures the sequence of events that followed after February 2010 “when an anonymous source approached Hari and offered a (EVM) machine for him to study. This source requested anonymity and we have honoured this request. We have every reason to believe that the source had lawful access to the machine and made it available for scientific study as a matter of conscience, out of concern over potential security problems.” The team used this EVM to demonstrate on a TV channel how it could easily be tampered with. In the first week of August, the police visited Mr Prasad and recorded a statement about this EVM he had used. And then, suddenly on August 21, he was arrested on a bizarre charge — that of stealing an EVM from Maharashtra. In his text message, Mr Prasad says, “I am not worried or scared at all by these tricks from the EC. I came to know that because of tremendous pressure, police had no other option than to arrest me. Our new CEC is positive in resolving EVM vulnerabilities but it seems even he came under pressure to change his stance from what he promised us on August 10.” The episode clearly reeks of intimidation by the EC or whoever directed the arrest. As Mr Rao’s book shows, the EC has been obstinate in its stand that EVMs are “foolproof”, “perfect” and “tamper-free” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary across the world. Mr Halderman, Mr Prasad, et al have shown that by embedding a Bluetooth (wireless technology) device, it’s possible to manipulate the EVM using remote devices like a mobile phone. The book painstakingly explains this and other methods of manipulation. Ideally, India should’ve followed suit — or ordered deeper inquiry — when the Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Ireland banned EVMs because they were “easy to falsify,” risked eavesdropping” and “lacked transparency”. What’s worse is that Indian EVMs leave no trail — there is no mechanism to track suspected election fraud. The EC’s obstinacy thus defies reason. On one hand, the EC insists that EVMs are impregnable. So there should really be no reason to not let the researchers examine the machine. What or who is it scared of? Indeed, if it were transparent, it should’ve actually facilitated Mr Prasad and team to expose any vulnerability in the EVMs. That would’ve restored our faith in the health of our democratic institutions. Instead, Mr PV Indiresan issued an outlandish analogy equating a call for a scientific inquiry into EVMs with testing the chastity of Sita. This only helps deepen suspicions about foul play in the issue. The UPA reached a new low in 2009 when it bulldozed the appointment of Mr Navin Chawla as Chief Election Commissioner who the Shah Commission report “declared as unfit to hold any public office which demands an attitude of fair play and consideration for others.” And now the arrest of Mr Prasad has again sent an ugly signal. Is it safe to conclude that ordinary citizens will be persecuted for seeking the truth? Ironically, on August 9, the Cabinet passed the Whistleblower Bill, but who should people turn to when the state’s institutions themselves begin to look like agents of intimidation? The current CEC, Mr SY Quraishi, must come clean immediately on this shameful affair. The country has a right to know whether the EC is a body of the Constitution or just an arm of a political party. Tampering of EVMs is a serious issue with potential to shatter the foundations of democracy. The logical end of this will mean that only one party gets to wield power forever. If the voting process is subverted, it won’t be long before national interest will be equated with a particular political party’s interest — it harks back to a black era when “India was Indira”. Mr Prasad’s arrest also shows how many of our fundamental freedoms are slowly being taken away without our knowledge. Equally, it’s ironical that the state is virtually powerless against a dangerous man like Abdul Nasser Madani but swoops down on an individual who asked uncomfortable questions concerning national interest. However, it’s heartening to see the groundswell of support that has emerged across the country for Mr Prasad. Petitions, Internet groups, blogs and articles have strongly condemned the strong-arm tactics of the EC. VeTA has also indicated approaching the Supreme Court for a “renewed legal battle”. This news has already attracted international attention with people comparing this with the Florida EVM fiasco. It’s a huge blot on India’s image in the world, which regards our elections as reasonably “fair and free”. The EC needs to urgently show complete transparency with regard to this episode — admitting that the EVMs are flawed is not a personal insult to the EC. This issue is in many ways a good test of the saying about eternal vigilance and is an opportunity to prove Ambrose Pierce wrong when he said that voting is “the instrument and symbol of a free man’s power to make a fool of himself and a wreck of his country.” |
