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Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7770 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: N/A |
I said the root of conflict is people with self-esteem issues  And I believe being dissonant with your own conscience is one of the main causes of self-esteem issues If you think that is judging - so be it aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16340 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: |
as expected .. but instead .. you chose to lay the responsibility of conflict on people who have self-esteem or people who do not subscribe to "live for yourself" .. did you not judge? "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7769 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: N/A |
Beautiful and very inspiring
I have no business rating other people, period...It took me 40+ years to reach this stage of equanimity and I think given time most people will aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16338 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
so .. by ur own statement .. there are many people who do not their lives according to the "live for yourself" principle and that causes conflict? well .. if at all you are asked an opinion, how do you rate the people who do not believe in "live for yourself" principle as they are the reason for conflicts? better/worse? "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 6024 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.104.94 Rating: N/A |
If Everyone Cared...no body died http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOwJSpt2m_w | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7768 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: N/A |
If everyone felt that , I think there would be no self-esteem issues , that cause people to put each other down...or prove themselves "better" by trashing others- the root of conflict Unfortunately that is not the case aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16336 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
frank ga cheppana .. ee statement ni as it is ga teesukunte .. everybody is living a righteous life .. so there should be no chance for conflict, differences and the world should have been a paradise by now ! because .. by everybody's measure .. all are doing an outstanding job in living for our own conscience/consciousness/self. kaadantara? "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7767 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: N/A |
No - it only means one thing - live to your own conscience/consciousness/self aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16334 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
no wonder it caused an uproar .. because it can mean different things for different people andi .. even in this post u did not mention/clarify whether the "live for urself" means .. exhibit selfishness or righteously live independently without being unfair to others (unfair on your own and others scale) aa second point ni elaborate ga precise ga cheptundi ee statement ..
indulo kuda society is very very crucial part .. so adi clarify cheyyandi .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5109 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
Never mind, he was a popular dber of ibdb. Yes, lots of diversity in this db. You can see black, white and all shades of gray. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7766 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: N/A |
Just read the whole thread and you made my day - It is rare to see that clarity in people as young as you - May the mother bless you Long ago in IBDB I had said the path to happiness is to "Live for yourself" and it caused an uproar aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 118 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: N/A |
i hv no idea who vivekadhara is.. nenu ee year beginning nunche follow avutunna ee dbni.. it's good to see so many different kinds of people interacting here on a regular basis.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5107 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
I know, I was just joking. Its a very individual-oriented experience. Its relieving to know that I am not alone about beliefs and our paths/pursuits intersecting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Oohlala Junior Artist Username: Oohlala Post Number: 266 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.102.254.33 Rating: N/A |
Jujung, good one. Ishan, my primary belief system is intact most of the times. However, some times there is a clash between goals and beliefs and I have noticed that some of my beliefs might change based on new experiences. But most of the time I do come back to my original system, after going through an arduous journey, probably because I need to learn things in my own time. I cannot learn from other's experiences. So, I am not sure if you can follow Jujung's path, it might provide you some insight and you probably have to explore, experience and discover on your own. | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5104 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
And when you do, Please let me know - I need to know the path you followed.  . Great post 5 stars. Naakenduko meeru vivekadhara ani doubt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 310 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 115.242.136.204 Rating: N/A |
belief....what else is there apart form it!? may be there is knowing. knowing Vs belief. JK says something like ..you do not have to believe the truth. truth is known( may be we assimilate it so deeply !?). belief would be a conjecture. actually, until we can directly observe or experience every thing is a belief. there would be strong beliefs or weak beliefs. we believe that: there are atoms and subatomic particles..because since says so. most of us do not have a chance to see them or experience them there are genes which determine our traits and all there existed dinosaurs and many more facts we just take them for granted. but yes we would be convinced logically/rationally but they would remain beliefs until we experience directly ...they may get stronger as we get more evidences. Belief could be a feeling rather than a logically/rationally ascertained fact. The neuroscientist Robert A. Burton say in " On being certain" that Certainty is a feeling | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7763 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.174.176.93 Rating: N/A |
Love it 5 *****
Wordplay is so much fun- belief , thought, perception, relity 
I am reading more disbelief/skepticism in your question than a desire to understand ..but that may just be my perception\clipart{10} Examples na varaku naku chalane unnayi, and I never thought or felt them as "feats" and I can share but if I do , will you believe it can be done or will you dismiss them as "her goal was not important enough " or "she had more options and less to lose than we do " The value we put on our goals and our beliefs is very personal and rarely transferable ... the cost benefit analysis we do internally of each path/pursuit depends on these very subjective evaluations My bottomline is, if we do not do what we believe/think is the right thing to do at the moment, we load up the baggage of guilt that we carry thru life, and I am a huge proponent of travelling light - even if it means changing my direction frequently aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 108 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: |
The three laws of beliefs: 1. A belief that is held will continue to be held until a contradictory experience. 2. The rate of change in beliefs is directly proportional to the rate of new factual observations/experiences. 3. For every belief that can be held, there exists an equal and opposite belief that can be held. Special theory of relativity of belief and reality: Some beliefs will continue to be held even after contradictory experiences. This is due to the existence of hope in all life forms. The general theory of relativity of belief and reality: On a grander scale, there is no fundamental difference between belief and reality. Reality is also a belief based on a smaller set of prior beliefs (aka assumptions) and shared by a wider set of life forms. The grand quest for true reality: Some people long suspected the existence of true reality, independent of any prior beliefs/assumptions. A few claimed they have experienced it and can be known only by direct experience. Ironically, I believe in the existence of this one true reality. And my goal is to experience it. ;) The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2210 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 99.229.92.178 Rating: N/A |
>>>> though I "believe" I have that figured out >>>>>>>>> I always thought so..... >>>>> and I have done that many times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not too personal example okatisthey, a few fortunately/unfortunately not so clear individuals like me will get a glimpse of such a feat...... | ||
Fakeeru Comedian Username: Fakeeru Post Number: 1131 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 98.180.208.67 Rating: N/A |
No belief...convinence..ela vunte..belief ala maaripoddi.. | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5098 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
great, thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7758 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Change my path at the earliest opportunity - and I have done that many times aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5097 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
what if your updated belief system is in direct conflict of your pursuit of that goal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7757 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Agree totally - though I "believe" I have that figured out
To each their own - everyone has the option of paying attention or ignoring
I don't think so Any decision is made based on what we know and believe at that point...there is no point in applying and updated belief system to past decision as it is only one of the many variables affecting the decisionaa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16284 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
beliefs take precedence no doubt in the long run .. short term lo career goals .. complex mixture of both infact .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 13845 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
r u back from india? ------------\ yes life ni enjoy chestunnaru desam lo | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5096 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
so for you, belief comes first, then career goals? r u back from india?
great. has that change in belief system ever affected your career or personal goal pursuits? Do you use/consider your belief system while setting up goals? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2209 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 136.1.1.104 Rating: N/A |
trying to understand "What is belief" and the "need to believe" is probably even more interesting and enlightening process..... I wish I can feel enlightenend by hanging diwali lights around me all the time........may be some bells and whistles to attract even more attention.... | ||
Pathfinder Side Hero Username: Pathfinder Post Number: 2609 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 216.191.245.130 Rating: N/A |
i believe in hardwork, a bit of destiny topped by a bit of luck nonetheless, Hardwork itself is the secret, motivation - satisfaction & Money Roju vondala sankyalo gaajula pettelu bahumatulu ga ostunnayi, emito ee abhimanaam - Sukkalake sukka Meka Sukka | ||
Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 7756 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Thread anta chadavaledu - title chusi responding What are my beliefs ante - depends on the date and time They change whenever I learn new stuff Reflecting on why I believe what I believe is a very interesting, entertaining and enlightening process  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
Stig Side Hero Username: Stig Post Number: 6248 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.195.237.210 Rating: N/A |
No, Naku telisna valla antha nenu pakkavalla gurinche alochistanu ... chala manchodu anukuntaru ... but the truth is I want people around me and my loved ones to be happy because 'that's what makes me happy'. -------- Only seven people have looked The Stig straight in the eyes. They are all dead now !! | ||
Jalsa Moderator Username: Jalsa Post Number: 13843 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
andarini aduguthunnaru, mee beliefs vaati impacts ento cheppandi Ishan gaaru. | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16279 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
nenu ulta aalochistunna .. I am basically and inherently a very bad human .. but by beliefs help me take the right path .. most of the times .. if not always .. btw .. indaka koncham over dramatize chesa .. next square meals ani .. kaani fear of future, peer pressure anevi negative belief systems for me .. they hold me back in the pursuit of my goal ..
tamud .. not to question you .. where does this ME end? your physical boundaries or family or friends + family or society or nation ? what you is .. "ME" .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5095 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
So basically your beliefs are hindering your progress? or atleast you are not able to achieve 100% because of them? did that belief ever caused you any problems? Like may be someone thought you always think about yourself...etc? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Ntr_rocks Hero Username: Ntr_rocks Post Number: 12771 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 170.141.177.94 Rating: N/A |
I believe in only one thing.....  If you don't like Something, Change it. If you can't Change it, Change the way you think about it. | ||
Stig Side Hero Username: Stig Post Number: 6244 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 117.195.237.210 Rating: N/A |
I believe in I ME MYSELF .... this is what motivates me .... !! -------- Only seven people have looked The Stig straight in the eyes. They are all dead now !! | ||
Side Hero Username: Twitter Post Number: 3548 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.205 Rating: N/A |
nuv collecter authav babu authav  | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16277 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 148.168.127.10 Rating: N/A |
A lot .. I "believe" I want to be something different than what I am today .. but I my beliefs make me shift my attention towards what I want to be periodically .. and lastly .. my beliefs are not constant over a large period of time .. they are over a short period of time ..
oh yes .. every day .. its a conflict .. bloody conflict .. I want to be upright, moral, ethical and honest .. but many times I get lost and those beliefs dont earn me the next square meal .. beliefs get diluted .. goals however misconstrued they are achieved sometimes .. then the beliefs get re-assured and pursued .. again diluted .. viscious circle ..
faith, honesty, morality, truthfulness, belief in family, happiness, society .. ivi type chestonte .. inni belief systems unnaya naaku ane disbelief vastondi .. Philosophical theddu laa undi .. naaku unna koddipaati knaaledge tho answering seyyadaniki trying sestunna .. mannincha galaru .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4348 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
a lot...it helps me to understand not everything follows my plans,whims and fancies...it's like realising you can only do . accomplish or understand certain things upto certain extent....i feel that feeling of helplessness makes people more wise and humble | ||
Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2208 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 136.1.1.104 Rating: N/A |
>>>> Do you mean to say you dont believe in anything? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dunno brother what or why I should "Believe" in something......"Belief" kantey "think" aney word use chesthey comfortable gaa maatlaadochchu.... I think "ppl suck".......but do I believe antey, I dunno how to answer that......hope I am making some sense.... | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5094 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
Hmm...does that help you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5093 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
Do you mean to say you dont believe in anything? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2207 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 136.1.1.104 Rating: N/A |
>>>> i mean i believed in caste, and there was no reason behind the belief, and then there was conflict with the world i was seeing. and my belief's changed to an extent where i thought caste was just another division. going further, i learnt more,and i see caste from a different view now. >>>>>>>>>>>>> ee belief belief enti brother?.......I don't "believe" in "believe believe" and "faith"............anyways, thats just my observation....... I thought you had a question about whether caste is good or whether it is natural or something like that.....I don't remember exactly.......so just saying, it looks like it is real and natural.......but I have no clue how to classify it as good bad or ugly ani......but if someone can like/understand the nature as it is, better to accept nature as it is..... if this helped, well and good......or else, don't give two shxits about my crazy crap on a friday afternoon.... | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4346 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
by feeling helpless....i try to set things in persepective upto a point beyond that i give up....i feel i am trapped and there is no way out....i console myself that i have to have patience and wait till the way opens up | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4313 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.129.98 Rating: N/A |
well thats the conflict kadha bro. i mean i believed in caste, and there was no reason behind the belief, and then there was conflict with the world i was seeing. and my belief's changed to an extent where i thought caste was just another division. going further, i learnt more,and i see caste from a different view now. i guess its just a personality trait, whether you take the conflict or leave it aside, just like faith in god. if there is no conflict for me, it just means me that it is not a matter of interest to me any more. hmm liberals and utopians ni annav, nenu liberal oo kaadha naake thelidhu. its a conflict again to me. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2206 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 136.1.1.104 Rating: N/A |
M_S, you had a conflict about caste previously, if I remember.....Just observe all around you........it is real and it always exists..... Religion may be just a concept.....might come and go away....and might be applicable to only few people or some geographies........but caste applies to everyone and omnipresent....... whether it is good, bad or ugly anedi.........I dunno how to decide.....but then it is Nature's reality and it exists........ofcourse liberals and utopians can always strive for something else, which I dunno what it really is.....and I doubt even they know what they want to achieve....... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4311 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.129.98 Rating: N/A |
more positive than negative anipisthadhi, ofcourse thats my view. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5088 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
Has this conflict or constant change of beliefs ever affected positively or negatively the pursuit of your career or personal goals? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5087 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.106.234 Rating: N/A |
How do you handle them? What motivates you to achieve your goals? Lets say you wanted to become a manager. Have you ever thought why you want that? Is it a simple factor of higher the position, more money more comforts respect in life or is there anything beyond that? Is there any philosophical and/or spiritual factor that affected your pursuit of goal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 4308 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.129.98 Rating: N/A |
there is conflict, and these leads to a change in me. my beliefs change as i learn new things, and there is conflict with my current thoughts and new things i learn. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 6284 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.132 Rating: N/A |
I don't feel conflicted much about myself in general. That's b'coz my life is way too simple. I have only two things going for me in life - honesty and lazyness. I didn't try to change either of these ever. The only conflict that I am struggling with these days do I want my body donated for research when I die or do I want to be cremated etc etc. My imaginary friend went away for an year in search of his brain! | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4342 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
the conflict is always there for me.....it's the conflict between extremes...freedom VS bondage....discipline VS indiscipline....hardwork VS laziness | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 5086 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 128.249.107.38 Rating: N/A |
How did your beliefs affected or are affecting your life? Every man has to have certain set of beliefs that propels him to achieve what they want in life. Have you ever had conflicts between your instinct, belief and goal achievement? What are your beliefs that motivate you to achieve your goals? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 |
