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Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4288 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
politicians ante edo separate class, separate gaa pudatharu annatlu cheptunnaru. They come from US. They reflect ppl of the society, or their indifference to the political process. | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 3182 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
katthi laa cheppaav | ||
Elcaminocapastrino Megastar Username: Elcaminocapastrino Post Number: 21411 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 206.208.231.61 Rating: N/A |
India is not an easy country to govern... we have freaking so many languages..so many accents with in same languages..so many cultures...so many diff traditions..so many religions..so much crap n diversity to deal with...its a wonder the progress we made in 60 years...i sometimes feel if we r divided based on states then we would have several smaller n robust in advanced countries like europe n several others like pakistan...but when we r united we see whole country as one....there will be tradeoffs....but people should shed emotions for progress...they should get extremely selfish when it comes to their needs and they should treat politicians as whores...we give u vote u deliver us the job n ur nothing more than that....thats the only problem we have with our people...getting emotional n attached to politicians...just use them n throw em... | ||
Annavaram Side Hero Username: Annavaram Post Number: 3180 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 71.97.14.213 Rating: N/A |
totally agree thammi, manollu eppudu reactive gaane untaaru, edaina point out chesthe first thing maa thaatha first bomb chuttaadu ani start chesesthaam deenemma sensitive G ni D eppatiki maarathaaro ento sean kelley raasina article lo asalu thappu ledu, foreword kuda lengthy gaa mee sensitivity ki salaam pls dont take otherwise ani kuda raasaadu, he seem to be very familair with our anal retentiveness | ||
Guttonkay Side Hero Username: Guttonkay Post Number: 5970 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 148.87.67.135 Rating: |
This is so true. Leaders were less corrupt back then. 15 years kritam crores mingadu ante aura anukunevallam. ippudu vela kotlu anna kooda cheema kuttinatlu kooda ledu evariki. Unfortunately common man seems to be stuck in his rut of not knowing how to fix the situation and politicians of every party are stuck in their rut of wanting power somehow or other and posturing. India will always be developingggggggggggg country at this rate. My imaginary friend went away for an year in search of his brain! | ||
Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10252 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.30.2.223 Rating: N/A |
ante ee sadharana samasya badi daggara kani inti daggara kaani rendu chotla kani undochu ante badi daggara samasya unnappudu kevalam badi daggara mathra samasya untundi anukodam tappu adi badi daggare kaka inti daggara kooda undochu .. inti daggara unnanta mathrana badi daggara kuda undalsina avasaram ledu kani konni sarlu nadi daggara kooda undochu udaharanaki badi daggara unna samasya intidaggara undadam aschryam karadu alage inti daggara unna samasya rendu chotla undaka povochu ika pothe badi daggara intidaggara kooda unna samasyalu badiki intiki mathrame parimitam avaka povochu ...... Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
Oohlala Junior Artist Username: Oohlala Post Number: 249 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.102.254.33 Rating: N/A |
E_K, elaborate annanu, translate analedu kada  | ||
Eluri_kurradu Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu Post Number: 10249 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.30.2.223 Rating: N/A |
sadharana samasya chaduvu renduchotla anaga badi daggara mariyu intivadda undi  Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu .. | ||
Oohlala Junior Artist Username: Oohlala Post Number: 248 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 64.102.254.33 Rating: N/A |
Ishan, elaborate this please "basic problem is with the education both at school and home" | ||
Onlooker Comedian Username: Onlooker Post Number: 1009 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 12.184.71.130 Rating: N/A |
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Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 4880 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 68.89.186.85 Rating: N/A |
independence vachi just 60 years ee kada ayyindi...koddiga time kaavaalemo...basic problem is with the education both at school and home. Adi improve ayithe migathavanni automatic ga oka daariki vasthayani ee sandharbhamgaa ee db vaasulaki sahrudayamga vinamrathatho manavi cheskuntunna. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Weah5XlW8 | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 15699 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 24.0.123.37 Rating: N/A |
 "We have, I think, developed an inferiority complex. I think what is needed in India today is the destruction of that defeatist spirit. We need a spirit of victory, a spirit that will carry us to our rightful place under the sun". - C.V. Raman | ||
Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 5668 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.104.94 Rating: N/A |
http://www.seanpaulkelley.com/?p=964 Some Indian nutjob replied to Sean's post with all his BS....who cares if somebody invents PI or who cares if somebody invents pythogoras theorem when you have shit loads of problems in your own country...Don't u feel ashamed of supporting your own country with heck a lot of problems & own slimeball politicians.....Anyways, below is his reply: Dear Sean Paul Kelley, let me tell you, india is the only place with all its faults, the soul finds its freedom, its peace & joy. being home to a billion beats , this country has huge resources & beyond. can they be typified under a single banner? i agree when you say, this is a dirty place, electrical grid is surely a joke, there are many other concerns which india faces today. but that doesnât mean people out here arenât interested . we are. to every enemy there is a friend. to all corrupt people, there are good people. its all round the corner, just a glance away. i wudnt want to call you the spoilt kid of the west, but when you compare, why is there so many broken families? divorce rules the roost. depression takes its toll. at a young age , students are into bad company? i bet, this is far far better in India. night life is the only thing in most mindset in westerners. the govt here is lack lustre, more appropriate corrupted, but change wont happen in a day right? we can always look at the bright side of things, if we want too. its all in the state of mind. â Here are some amazing facts that will make you more proud to be an Indian. Read on ⦠India invented the Number System. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta. India never invaded any country in her last 10000 years of history. Sanskrit is the mother of all the European languages. Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software, according to a report in Forbes magazine, July 1987. The Worldâs first university was established in Takshila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects there. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans. Charaka, the father of medicine consolidated Ayurveda 2500 years ago. Today Ayurveda is fast regaining its rightful place in our civilization.India was the richest country on earth until the British invaded in the early 17th Century. Christopher Columbus was attracted by Indiaâs wealth. Bhaskaracharya calculated the time taken by the earth to orbit the sun hundreds of years before the astronomer Smart. Time taken by earth to orbit the sun in the 5th century - 365.258756484 days. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 6000 years ago. The very word Navigation is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH. The word navy is also derived from Sanskrit âNouâ. The value of âpiâ was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is known as the Pythagorean Theorem. He discovered this in the 6th century long before the European mathematicians. According to the Gemological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source for diamonds to the world. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th century. The largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Hindus used numbers as big as 10**53(10 to the power of 53) with specific names as early as 5000 BCE during the Vedic period. Even today, the largest used number is Tera 10**12(10 to the power of 12). Usage of anesthesia was well known in ancient India medicine. Detailed knowledge of anatomy, embryology, digestion, metabolism, physiology, etiology, genetics and immunity is also found in many ancient Indian texts. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century old suspicion in the world scientific community, that the pioneer of wireless communication was Prof. Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted complicated surgeries like cesareans, cataract , artificial limbs, fractures, urinary stones and even plastic surgery and brain surgery. Usage of anesthesia was well known in ancient India. Over 125 surgical equipment were used. Deep knowledge of anatomy, physiology, etiology, embryology, digestion, metabolism, genetics and immunity is also found in many texts. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra. Chess (Shataranja or AshtaPada) was invented in India. When many cultures were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindh Valley, known as the Indus Valley Civilization. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC. Spiritual science, Yoga and most of the religions were found in India and the teachings spread all over the world by Indian Mystics and the Saints. The Worldâs First Granite Temple is the Brihadeswara temple at Tanjavur in Tamil Nadu. The shikhara is made from a single â 80-tonne â piece of granite. Also, this magnificient temple was built in just five years, (between 1004 AD and 1009 AD) during the reign of Rajaraja Chola India isâ¦â¦.the Largest democracy in the world, the 6th largest country in the world AND one of the most ancient and living civilizations (at least 10, 000 years old). The game of snakes & ladders was created by the 13th century poet saint Gyandev. It was originally called âMokshapat.â The ladders in the game represented virtues and the snakes indicated vices. The game was played with cowrie shells and dices. Later through time, the game underwent several modifications but the meaning is the same i.e good deeds take us to heaven and evil to a cycle of re-births.â there is so much, & so much more. but is it the blind side?? why are the people there so racists? did the people there create human or God did? where do you compare culture? & traditions? moreover, how can you help to make this country what it can be? people like mother Theresa came here, did their best, many more are doing it. this can only change with time. the west only robbed india & went back. if not for the independence movement, we would still be slaves. i can go on and on, but intend to stop here. i would want to here from you. Dear sean, this is just my opinion, no offences, i just disagreed on some issues but respect your right to say. do you want to make a trip to this country again ? would be happy to meet you. await your reply yours in friendship, rgrds, Edmond First and foremost, thank you Edmond for writing in. Iâve received countless letters from Indian expats and residents. Most of them have been similar in temperament to yours in that they highlight the ancient glories of India as a way of pointing towards the future. That may be so, but in a former life I was an asset manager and one key principle we learned was âpast performance is no guarantee of future results.â Just look at America! What began as an auspicious experiment in Enlightenment Political Theory, progressed , after our Civil War and Progressive Era to the Vanguard of the West is now sinking under the combined weight of greed and anti-intellectualism run amok. We, like you, cannot rest on our laurels. When we do, we betray our fundamental principles. But, I should really, rather respond to your specific arguments, or historical anecdotes, such as they are: a.) Sanskrit, while an amazing language and one that has facilitated a great many intellectual awakenings in the East and West, is not the Indo-European mother tongue. As you and I both know, the Aryans who invaded Hindustan around 2,000BCE brought with them a proto-Sanskrit closely related to Avestan and the Anatolian ancestral tongues. b.) I was unaware of the university at Takshila, but this doesnât surprise me. India has a very long and distinguished history of learning. c.) Aryuveda: yes, indeed. India has given much to the world and the West ignores its gifts mostly due to ignorance and arrogance. d.) Columbus and the wealth of the Indies: this is indisputable, if largely forgotten in the West as well. Columbus believed the earth was a globeâanother idea I believe that has its genesis in a fusion of Greek and Indian knowledgeâand sailed West in the (false) belief that he would reach India. e.) Higher Math, Algebra and Zero: Zero, as a concept came from India and it was a concept the West resisted for centuries. The higher math examples you offer I canât speak to, as I am no mathematician or historian of math, except I can say, with certainty, that algebra did not come from India. Algebra was a Perso-Arab development that came from the region between the Syr Darya and Amu Darya rivers in what is present-day Uzbekistan: Kwarazm. But thatâs really not whatâs important. Whatâs key here is that India, as you document, has given the world many great things. This is not, nor was it ever, in dispute by me. My purpose, in arguing the way I did in âReflections on Indiaâ was not to take away form what India had given the world, but to ask: how does India plan to follow up on its previous accomplishments. Also, I wrote it as a tonic to much of the hype here in the West about how India is the next âbig thing.â And all the nonsense about âhow easy it is to do business in India.â While what I wrote was addressed to my India friends in particular, it was meant as a wake-up call to Western businessmen and women about the difficulties they will face doing business in India. There is a lot of myth-making about India here in the West, especially by people like Tom Friedman. It needs to be countered. If India and the United States are going to have a global partnership of sorts, as looks increasingly likely, well, then we need to understand each other better, not just our strengths, but our weaknesses, as well. Would you not agree? | ||
Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 3695 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.181.197 Rating: N/A |
The issue he raised about train tickets, SIM card and customer service is from an outsider perspective, I dont think people in India are really unhappy with those issues. Apart from that, I agree with everything he said. But again, we need to give India a chance, It needs time to grow. I have a right to be Happy! | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4285 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
 Education, Health, Corruption etc have never been the biggest issues, but a Mandir, and a new state are. Slogans, yathralake votes padathayi, vishayam matladite artham kadu antaru, adoka fashion. | ||
Onlooker Comedian Username: Onlooker Post Number: 1005 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 12.184.71.130 Rating: N/A |
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Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 5667 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.104.94 Rating: N/A |
Excellent post Jujung... BTW, I like all your posts.. Coming to the point, I think major problem in India is population...I don't think there is any permanent fix to this problem. | ||
Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 106 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 76.98.126.13 Rating: |
this discussion itself tells us why we are still so far from getting meaningful politics.. the major problems of India: pollution, infrastructure, bureaucratic corruption ante one dude comes up and talks about prohibition, marriage, good family values etc etc.. there is absolutely no sense of perspective or proportion on various issues among a majority of us.. that's the reason why we keep electing family scions, culture warriors, movie stars, freebie givers year after year.. oka desanni rule cheyyadaniki kavasindi slogans kaadu, samardhatha and naipunyam. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4284 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
I was talking the initial years post independence. We had a larger percentage of non-corrupt politicians. Now it is "impractical" to be non corrupt. We have the largest percentage of criminals in politics, when compared to any other legal profession, and worst of all, we have educated citizens asking -what is wrong in having criminals as MLAs and MPs. | ||
Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 668 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.64.53 Rating: N/A |
times and purpose are different, then it was about independence, now it is about the easy and immoral way to comfort. the people are still the same. | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4038 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
in the early days after independence the system penetration was not that deep and also the polity was new,fresh and untested...there were many stalwarts within the polity before nehru family hijacked the polity | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4283 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
We were doing better in the initial days than now. Leaders then were less corrupt, and more responsible, than leaders now. It is a pity that none of the major political parties work towards the assimilation you mentioned. | ||
Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 667 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.64.53 Rating: N/A |
http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/icons/quote3.gif i partially agree, but the culture itself became very weak due to which foreign invaders got so much success. | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 15666 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 155.94.110.223 Rating: N/A |
chepdaam anukunna .. he does not budge from his western educated books and we from our thoughts .. waste ani vadilesa .. emi cheyyalemu .. "We have, I think, developed an inferiority complex. I think what is needed in India today is the destruction of that defeatist spirit. We need a spirit of victory, a spirit that will carry us to our rightful place under the sun". - C.V. Raman | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4033 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
this modern civilization and the system of governanace are not organic to india...it's something thrust upon india from the top...this is the fundamental reason for chaos....once indian society assimilates and adjusts to the new environment...everything should be fine | ||
Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4032 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
it's as old as Ramayan, mahabharat, maurya, ashoka...even during mughal and maratha rule huge chunks of india were under them | ||
Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 666 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.64.53 Rating: N/A |
every civilization has its ups and downs. like described in the movie apocalypto, the indian civilization imploded long time back into decadence. there were great civilization many 100s of years back but now it is mostly decadence. it is take time to come out of this. indian subcontinent civilizations are very old but the concept call India as a unified country is only 60 years old. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4282 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
people cannot be controlled to follow a culture, but can be controlled to follow a law. That is why we need a new framework. You only mention that people can be swayed easily into bad ways. No culture says that it is ok for minors to consume alcohol. But we are probably one of the few countries that allow them to do so. | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 15652 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 155.94.110.223 Rating: N/A |
The thing is .. it is the culture that acts as a deterrent to this becoming a norm .. instead rely on the same to keep it intact .. why change to a new framework .. where tomorrow .. some idiot may conduct a false study on the behest of Kingfisher to come up with a study result that children above 13 will benefit in memory by consuming alcohol .. and the sheeples, that ashton proudly calls, will stand in queue to consume alcohol .. afterall people can be swayed so easily in bad ways!!! "We have, I think, developed an inferiority complex. I think what is needed in India today is the destruction of that defeatist spirit. We need a spirit of victory, a spirit that will carry us to our rightful place under the sun". - C.V. Raman | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4281 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
The point is that the system allows it to become a norm. kaada? Yes, that is the system WE voted for. Then how can we be better than other countries that do not allow all of this? Since independence the major issues that were brought up, and those that captured the thinking of the nation are not real issues like corruption, governance, or democracy. What else do you expect? | ||
Kimura Junior Artist Username: Kimura Post Number: 309 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 151.151.109.10 Rating: N/A |
babai.. marriage ane institution ki india lo pedda peru undi antav.. but what are the numbers that live in a marriage happily and how many are just living that way because they dont want the stigma of divorce attached to them.. i personally know 2 such cases.. if they had a choice they would kick their spouse out and live happily but cant do that because the society is going to look down upon them.. etc., I have seen from close quarters where one person forcefully tied a "taali" to a girl and made her his wife.. now they are husband and wife.. have 2 kids.. what is all that about.. so no point in justifying the sanctity of marriages in india.. I dont support the marriage system in the west either.. they have their share of issues too.. alcoholism: well.. villages loki velli choodu.. polallo pani chesukune vallu.. etc., andaru tagutaru.. one of the politicians announced free electricity and guess where they wanted to make money to afford free electricity.. they increased the liquor rates.. so we have a lot to work on even there.. spirituality antava.. this is one of the best things we have in our country.. people have this general kindness about them due to the fact that we all believe in all the things our literature has taught us.. but even here money trumps everything else.. like indiarocks said.. people like us who wants things to better are seen as "crazy" or "unrealistic" .. | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 15645 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 155.94.110.223 Rating: N/A |
thats the system malfunctioning .. and meeru cheptunna .. children having alcohol is an abberation and not a norm yet ! fortunately .. and yes .. the immoral govts feel there is revenue in toxicating the societies .. unfortunately .. such is the system we designed .. we should have gone for total prohibition of alcohol in the country as Gandhi wanted .. !!! "We have, I think, developed an inferiority complex. I think what is needed in India today is the destruction of that defeatist spirit. We need a spirit of victory, a spirit that will carry us to our rightful place under the sun". - C.V. Raman | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4280 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
consume less alcohol, value of marriage as an institution -- hmm In India liquor, smokes is sold to even minors, children. We have bars in every other street, and the saddest part is Govt. sees selling liquor as a revenue generating business. Ppl are killed for dowry. We rank very good in domestic violence. Kastamgane untundi, kani pachi nijalu. | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4278 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
A good chunk of us apply different rules to the West, and to India. They are convinced that India will never get better, can never become developed. The term to be used for this school of thinking is practicality. A good chunk don't care. They are the first to complain about everything. They don't understand that by going out and voting for the right person, a road accident could be averted, a bomb blast can be avoided. The saddest part is they are unaware of all of this, and attribute everything to fate. A very small chunk are the ones talking about change. And the attributes they earn are "impractical ppl" | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 15640 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 155.94.110.223 Rating: |
70% poor and 25% middle classes .. inko 3% upper middle classes lo classify aina kuda .. 2% rich people anthe .. majority-minority issues rakudadu intha lop sided figures unnappudu .. India, simply, is a poor country !!!
they have a reason why they think they are better .. they have less extra-marital relationships .. they consume less alcohol .. they know the value of marriages as an institution .. most people do not do drugs .. spiritual knowledge and faith dominate the way they live .. yes .. there are drawbacks as well .. no doubt .. but even like 200-300 years ago .. it was a much much better place on earth .. after constant loots and rapes .. did we turn this meek and ugly !!! hopefully .. we will be able to recover and live a life of dignity and honor ! "We have, I think, developed an inferiority complex. I think what is needed in India today is the destruction of that defeatist spirit. We need a spirit of victory, a spirit that will carry us to our rightful place under the sun". - C.V. Raman | ||
Kimura Junior Artist Username: Kimura Post Number: 307 Registered: 07-2010 Posted From: 151.151.109.10 Rating: N/A |
sad state.. but sean paul kelley is right.. for eg., nothing happens on time.. you have a million holidays.. and people have to take vacations and people dont make it to work before 10am..(atleast in the govt sectors) how can you expect anything to get done.. the whole thing is working because there is need.. a majority of population is poor or middle class.. so people need to work to afford to eat.. people need to work to afford to take care of their families(1 working while 10 are at home).. railway sector issue said above could be true in some states.. but recently they introduced an online system.. which is a little bit better than what is stated in his article.. i dont know how this will improve.. To teach people how to live is a big issue.. but who are we to teach.. then again.. everybody wants to go to the western world but no body wants to adopt anything good.. everyone thinks they are an older civilization and know better than the westerners.. more confusion than one can imagine.. population is a major issue.. i dont think that is going to get better any time soon.. | ||
Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 5658 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.104.94 Rating: |
I wonder if sheeples in India ever think about why are they paying water taxes,building taxes,infrastructure taxes.....Some idiot promised that by 2020, we would have a chance to see "Golden" AP (may be he is referring to Golden Age)....I betcha, it is now worse than what it used to be 10 years ago.....Look at the sheeples in db, they crave about Jagan (bunch of axxkissers)... | ||
Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 15639 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 155.94.110.223 Rating: N/A |
read it before .. sadly .. harsh reality !!! "We have, I think, developed an inferiority complex. I think what is needed in India today is the destruction of that defeatist spirit. We need a spirit of victory, a spirit that will carry us to our rightful place under the sun". - C.V. Raman | ||
Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 5657 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.104.94 Rating: N/A |
& sheeples here rather wanna support these whackjobs rather than focussing on the issues back home... | ||
Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4276 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
sad but true, but need not be surprised. In a democracy, yadha praja, tadha media, tadha raja. Personal mudslinging is being given more importance than real issues. | ||
Ashton Side Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 5654 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 66.90.104.94 Rating: |
http://www.seanpaulkelley.com/?p=620 If you are Indian, or of Indian descent, I must preface this post with a clear warning: you are not going to like what I have to say. My criticisms may be very hard to stomach. But consider them as the hard words and loving advice of a good friend. Someone whoâs being honest with you and wants nothing from you. These criticisms apply to all of India except Kerala and the places I didnât visit, except that I have a feeling it applies to all of India, except as I mentioned before, Kerala. Lastly, before anyone accuses me of Western Cultural Imperialism, let me say this: if this is what India and Indians want, then hey, who am I to tell them differently. Take what you like and leave the rest. In the end it doesnât really matter, as I get the sense that Indians, at least many upper class Indians, donât seem to care and the lower classes just donât know any better, what with Indian culture being so intense and pervasive on the sub-continent. But here goes, nonetheless. India is a mess. Itâs that simple, but itâs also quite complicated. Iâll start with what I think are Indiaâs four major problemsâthe four most preventing India from becoming a developing nationâand then move to some of the ancillary ones. First, pollution. In my opinion the filth, squalor and all around pollution indicates a marked lack of respect for India by Indians. I donât know how cultural the filth is, but itâs really beyond anything I have ever encountered. At times the smells, trash, refuse and excrement are like a garbage dump. Right next door to the Taj Mahal was a pile of trash that smelled so bad, was so foul as to almost ruin the entire Taj experience. Delhi, Bangalore and Chennai to a lesser degree were so very polluted as to make me physically ill. Sinus infections, ear infection, bowels churning was an all to common experience in India. Dung, be it goat, cow or human fecal matter was common on the streets. In major tourist areas filth was everywhere, littering the sidewalks, the roadways, you name it. Toilets in the middle of the road, men urinating and defecating anywhere, in broad daylight. Whole villages are plastic bag wastelands. Roadsides are choked by it. Air quality that can hardly be called quality. Far too much coal and far to few unleaded vehicles on the road. The measure should be how dangerous the air is for oneâs health, not how good it is. People casually throw trash in the streets, on the roads. The only two cities that could be considered sanitary in my journey were Trivandrumâthe capital of Keralaâand Calicut. I donât know why this is. But I can assure you that at some point this pollution will cut into Indiaâs productivity, if it already hasnât. The pollution will hobble Indiaâs growth path, if that indeed is what the country wants. (Which I personally doubt, as India is far too conservative a country, in the small âcâ sense.) The second issue, infrastructure, can be divided into four subcategories: roads, rails and ports and the electrical grid. The electrical grid is a joke. Load shedding is all too common, everywhere in India. Wide swaths of the country spend much of the day without the electricity they actually pay for. With out regular electricity, productivity, again, falls. The ports are a joke. Antiquated, out of date, hardly even appropriate for the mechanized world of container ports, more in line with the days of longshoremen and the like. Roads are an equal disaster. I only saw one elevated highway that would be considered decent in Thailand, much less Western Europe or America. And I covered fully two thirds of the country during my visit. There are so few dual carriage way roads as to be laughable. There are no traffic laws to speak of, and if there are, they are rarely obeyed, much less enforced. A drive that should take an hour takes three. A drive that should take three takes nine. The buses are at least thirty years old, if not older. Everyone in India, or who travels in India raves about the railway system. Rubbish. Itâs awful. Now, when I was there in 2003 and then late 2004 it was decent. But in the last five years the traffic on the rails has grown so quickly that once again, it is threatening productivity. Waiting in line just to ask a question now takes thirty minutes. Routes are routinely sold out three and four days in advance now, leaving travelers stranded with little option except to take the decrepit and dangerous buses. At least fifty million people use the trains a day in India. 50 million people! Not surprising that waitlists of 500 or more people are common now. The rails are affordable and comprehensive but they are overcrowded and what with budget airlines popping up in India like Sadhus in an ashram the middle and lowers classes are left to deal with the overutilized rails and quality suffers. No one seems to give a shit. Seriously, I just never have the impression that the Indian government really cares. Too interested in buying weapons from Russia, Israel and the US I guess. The last major problem in India is an old problem and can be divided into two parts thatâve been two sides of the same coin since government was invented: bureaucracy and corruption. It take triplicates to register into a hotel. To get a SIM card for oneâs phone is like wading into a jungle of red-tape and photocopies one is not likely to emerge from in a good mood, much less satisfied with customer service. Getting train tickets is a terrible ordeal, first you have to find the train number, which takes 30 minutes, then you have to fill in the form, which is far from easy, then you have to wait in line to try and make a reservation, which takes 30 minutes at least and if you made a single mistake on the form back you go to the end of the queue, or what passes for a queue in India. The government is notoriously uninterested in the problems of the commoners, too busy fleecing the rich, or trying to get rich themselves in some way shape or form. Take the trash for example, civil rubbish collection authorities are too busy taking kickbacks from the wealthy to keep their areas clean that they donât have the time, manpower, money or interest in doing their job. Rural hospitals are perennially understaffed as doctors pocket the fees the government pays them, never show up at the rural hospitals and practice in the cities instead. I could go on for quite some time about my perception of India and its problems, but in all seriousness, I donât think anyone in India really cares. And that, to me, is the biggest problem. India is too conservative a society to want to change in any way. Mumbai, Indiaâs financial capital is about as filthy, polluted and poor as the worst city imaginable in Vietnam, or Indonesiaâand being more polluted than Medan, in Sumatra is no easy task. The biggest rats I have ever seen were in Medan! One would expect a certain amount of, yes, I am going to use this word, backwardness, in a country that hasnât produced so many Nobel Laureates, nuclear physicists, imminent economists and entrepreneurs. But India has all these things and what have they brought back to India with them? Nothing. The rich still have their servants, the lower castes are still there to do the dirty work and so the country remains in stasis. Itâs a shame. Indians and India have many wonderful things to offer the world, but Iâm far from sanguine that India will amount to much in my lifetime. Now, have at it, call me a cultural imperialist, a spoiled child of the West and all that. But remember, Iâve been there. Iâve done it. And Iâve seen 50 other countries on this planet and none, not even Ethiopia, have as long and gargantuan a laundry list of problems as India does. And the bottom line is, I donât think India really cares. Too complacent and too conservative. |
