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Kamal
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 10:19 am:       


Bushu:

all US gets is some access there.



I am not willing to underplay that .. US now has a crucial presence in Central Asia .. thanks to Af-Pak .. antha kante strategic advantage ledu US ki .. Paki gallaki emundi .. howla gaallu .. they get to do all the dirty work .. like drone attacks .. hunting down dogs in the himalayas .. kaani in return .. they get their army HQ bombed .. right in their capital ..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 10:13 am:       


Kamal:

I donno why we call ourselves a soverign nation any more !




because we are still not as strong as them and there's no balancing power to the US. US pakis ni entha vadukuntaro dhaniki 5 times pakis use them for their own advantage. right from money to weapons to controlling India, it's pakistan that has the advantage. all US gets is some access there.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 10:09 am:       


Bushu:

US needs to lick paki asses



frankly .. IMHO .. US does not lick faki guys at all .. they arm twist and ask their work to be done .. where as .. New Delhi promptly obeys its orders from Washington, even on matters like Indo-pak talks .. what needs to be talked .. kashmir, tellalism, water issues, troop deployment, siachen .. all bull $hit .. I donno why we call ourselves a soverign nation any more !
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 10:06 am:       

forget about ISI's supprot to taleban; they directed the entire indian embassy attack that happened in kabul. and some polish intelligence agency warned both the US and India well ahead. all this is clearly laid out in the documents. still US needs to lick paki asses and India is just sitting tight; such a sorry state for a super power. these are the times you miss a second super power to challenge these guys - would have seen some balance.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 10:02 am:       


Guttonkay:

Quite the contrary. Karzai and his government are saying that this reinforces their longstanding position, first that the Pakistani intelligence service has been behind car bombing and assassination plots in Afghanistan, and second, that the U.S. - especially in the years up until 2009 - was reckless with air strikes and killed many, many civilians, although they have said that in recent months and the last year and a half, that has improved.



Innocents ni, Civilians ni "fake encounters" lo champinanduku .. siggunna justice and peace mongerers evaraina sare .. ee desam vadilesi .. mee paapalu kadukkondi .. conscience clear chesukondi .. LOL

intaki .. Onama gadini eppudu try chestunnaru yuddha khaidi kinda? CBI enquiry ok na? :D
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 09:59 am:       


Guttonkay:

Welcome to India's nightmare.




Glad you realized .. I hope someone sitting in the North Block does too !
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 10:55 pm:       


Cyberabadsinnodu:




vallaku telusu but keep war alive and benefit of their own interest osamani koncham lite teesukunnaru .

if they really wanted to kill him they can.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 10:45 pm:       


Cyberabadsinnodu:




And some more ..

The WikiLeaks documents, splashed in the Guardian and several other papers, provide useful confirmation of what is readily discerned from public sources: the Afghanistan war is going badly, the Taliban are exceptionally brutal, US forces have not always attacked the right targets and elements in Pakistan continue to support the Taliban.

Of all this information, the most troubling concerns the duplicitous double dealing by Pakistan's powerful spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI. While some of the intelligence seems wildly implausible (surely the ISI did not plot to poison Kabul-bound beer, an enormously complex operation with limited pay off since US troops are not allowed to drink alcohol in Afghanistan), the WikiLeaks documents show a continued relationship between the ISI and the Taliban. This is not surprising. In the 1990s, the ISI helped create the Taliban and Pakistani support was decisive to the Taliban's capture of Kabul in 1996. The US has known since 2001 that Pakistan did not break its ties with the Taliban as President Pervez Musharraf had promised President Bush. After all, Mullah Omar and his close associates have been in Pakistan since 2001 and it is not plausible that Pakistan did not know where any of them were.

President Bush could have forced Pakistan to break the ISI-Taliban nexus but did not. He was dealing with Musharraf who, as the country's military dictator, presumably did control the ISI. Bush, who liked to talk tough but rarely was, preferred to accept Musharraf's false assurance that Pakistan was not supporting the Taliban connection to the unpleasant task of having to put pressure on an ally.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/26/wikileak s-isi-taliban-nexus
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 10:39 pm:       


Cyberabadsinnodu:




Mostly it was about civilian deaths that US covered up - quite a few of them.

There were some about Osama could be here, could be there, but no real info I don't think. anta teliste pattukokunda vuntara?

Read this about a poison called "osama kapa"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7 913050/Wikileaks-Afghanistan-Osama-bin-Laden-alive.html


And Here's a couple of QA from NPR regarding reaction in Afghanistan

Rene MONTAGNE: President Hamid Karzai doesn't seem at all upset that this information is coming to light. Why is that?

QUIL LAWRENCE: Quite the contrary. Karzai and his government are saying that this reinforces their longstanding position, first that the Pakistani intelligence service has been behind car bombing and assassination plots in Afghanistan, and second, that the U.S. - especially in the years up until 2009 - was reckless with air strikes and killed many, many civilians, although they have said that in recent months and the last year and a half, that has improved.

MONTAGNE: And has there been an American reaction to Mr. Karzai's endorsement, if you could call it that, of these documents?

LAWRENCE: It kind of shows the tangled set of cross purposes that are going on here. Karzai needs the U.S., but he also knows that the American occupation of Afghanistan is very unpopular with his people.

A clear example would be this incident in Helmand in the south last week, where President Karzai himself now claims that over 50 civilians - including women and children - died in a U.S. missile strike. Karzai released this information yesterday, and the American military response was - if a bland military press release can be angry - this one was livid. It said American officials said that they're conducting an investigation into that incident in Helmand, and that the Afghan government is investigating it with them, and that the joint investigation hasn't found any evidence of a civilian casualty. But if Mr. Karzai has the evidence, he should let them know, essentially.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:49 pm:       


Guttonkay:


aa report la emundi konchem lite veyandi.....vadu ekkada tirigedhi vellaki telsu anaaa?
ఎంత చికాగో యునివర్సిటీ లో చదువుకున్నా చిలక్కొట్టుడికి సరైన ఇంగ్లీషు పదం దొరుకుతుందా..!!
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:40 pm:       

"nagaya"
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:40 pm:       

snake ante naa?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:35 pm:       

dead snake ni malli malli champadam ante idenemo..

They're just continuing war assuming this dead man is alive...

another 60 billion$ funding for afghan war anta..

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-27/congress-appoves-60 -billion-u-s-war-funds-amid-afghan-policy-complaints.html
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:32 pm:       

The leaks were offered to NY times and other European publications. There was a huge article in NYTimes couple of days back.

The administration was out in full force all over the TV about how bad these leaks are for the security of our forces in Afghanistan yada yada. Today they were saying oh, these are not super secret docs? What the ...?

What was lost in this whole noise was that in many of the docs it was shows that Peekestan's ISI is supporting Taliban in Afghanistan. No one talked about that. It doesn't matter if it's a repub or dem in the WH, no one cares about ISI supporting a tellalist organization blatantly, as long as ISI also supports US forces in Afghanistan.

Welcome to India's nightmare.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:12 pm:       

http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/27/leaked-documents -offer-few-glimpses-of-bin-laden/?hpt=T1
Splitting a State is not a solution.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 07:34 pm:       

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7 911870/Wikileaks-Afghanistan-sightings-of-Osama-bin-Laden.ht ml


Classified US documents leaked by the wikileaks.
all the info is in wikileaks.com
US janalani pichollani chesthundi.what a funny.
Splitting a State is not a solution.

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