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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:47 am:       


Eluri_kurradu:

concept bagundi



competition gaa kotha theory start chestanaam ........nee aasesulu maaku kavali
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 11:41 pm:       

concept bagundi konchem deepga alochiste telug vaaarini north lo aryans south lo dravidians invasion chesi bhasha samskruti annintini nashanam chesi banisalni cheskunnaru ani inko theory cheppalani undi
Ee roju puttina roju jarupukuntunna vallaki janma dina subhakankshalu
Pelli roju variki pelliroju subha kankshalu ..

 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 11:20 pm:       

In reference to the Trinity test in New Mexico, where the first atomic bomb was detonated. Oppenheimer famously recalled the Bhagavad Gita: "If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the mighty one." and "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ncKNqfxk0
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 09:06 pm:       


Cocanada:

Gods are aliens. They are not human. They are of higher species.


 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 07:54 pm:       

aryan invasion ledu..thokka ledu.

vatti kattu katha..yevari ki thochinatlu vaallu "meme goppa race" ani cheppukovadaaniki yi theory thayaaru chesaaru ani naa abhipraayam.

naa dagagra documentary evidence yemi ledu. yekkada anna vunnaa kuda nenu nammanu. aa raasina theory udaa yevado raasinde kadaa?? adi maatarm nijam ani yela nammuthaamu??
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 06:02 pm:       

For me .. people with super natural powers is a very convincing concept .. alage .. Gods are different set of higher people with gr8est knowledge anedi inka convincing ga untundi .. spiritual ga growth unna vallani, vedic, yogic experts ni chooste manaki ee distinctions easy ga ardam avutayi ..

Ashton:

IMO, Oka vela Ramayana jarigina just bow & arrow war ayyi vundochu....magical powers ivi anni b.s...



dude .. ninnu counter chestunnanu .. haunt chestunnanu anukunte .. pardon me ..

but do you know .. after the manhattan project .. when the first H-bomb exploded .. journalists asked the scientists .. if this was the first such nuclear activity in the world .. do you know what his response was ???

he said .. yes .. in modern history that we know .. annadu .. he was hinting that Mahabharata, Bhagavatam had references to N-bombs .. check ur sources and come back to answer this .. it is allover internet .. nenemi kalpinchi cheppatledu .. I agree .. u have good knowledge .. but facts ni oppukokunda .. propagandas ki .. popular myths ki padipothe kastam .. nenu naa intelligence kante .. first N-bomb pelchina scientist intelligence ni base chesukuni argue chestunna !!
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:49 pm:       


Humpty_dumpty:

Coke,
good point.This is what I base on.
I don't want to open a can of worms - but I do believe that all actions of this mighty generous King were "reasoned" to be divine or some kind of karmic associated with them. This was all done so that a framework was set for the rest of us to lead a happy life.




Is it hard for you to believe the concept of yugas ?
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:31 pm:       


Ashton:

Do you mean there exists a different planetary kingdom other than earth?




Yes. I totally believe it. In such a vast universe, it is highly possible. They may be invisible to our eye ! why do you think it is not possible?
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:29 pm:       


Cocanada:

Rama was a king and he killed Ravana. And the he was treated like a divine human by the people around him.


I will try to answer this question later...


Cocanada:

That was dwapara yuga. So, the world was different. It was physically possible for demons to have powers




Do you mean there exists a different planetary kingdom other than earth?

Demons ki Powers anedi just b.s anukuntunna.....They could be normal human beings...but mana books,vedas anni clear ga represent cheyyaleka poyyayi...
IMO, Oka vela Ramayana jarigina just bow & arrow war ayyi vundochu....magical powers ivi anni b.s...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:21 pm:       

//Rama was a king and he killed Ravana. And the he was treated like a divine human by the people around him. //

Coke,
good point.This is what I base on.
I don't want to open a can of worms - but I do believe that all actions of this mighty generous King were "reasoned" to be divine or some kind of karmic associated with them. This was all done so that a framework was set for the rest of us to lead a happy life.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:16 pm:       


Ashton:

What is your opinion about Gods? Gods ante Magical powers vunna superhumans ante correct aa?


Gods are aliens. They are not human. They are of higher species.
Veeche gaali andari kosam. Vana megham dachukodhu tana kosam
Surya kanthi andari kosam. Chandra jyothi eragadu ye swaartham
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:15 pm:       


Ashton:

That is my answer to people who have doubts about "ramayana a fact or faction" in other thread "raavanudu"




Dont you think there is a 3rd option other than totally accepting and totally denying?

- Rama was a king and he killed Ravana. And the he was treated like a divine human by the people around him.

or

- That was dwapara yuga. So, the world was different. It was physically possible for demons to have powers
Veeche gaali andari kosam. Vana megham dachukodhu tana kosam
Surya kanthi andari kosam. Chandra jyothi eragadu ye swaartham
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:11 pm:       


Ruj:

ashton bro..
science vs religion
mythologies vs facts vanti terms anni europeans coin chesinavi..
till early 20th century we(indians) never differentiated education from religion...

alage ramayan and mahabharath are not mythologies..






Ok ee fact, fiction, mythology terminologies pakkana pedithe....What is your opinion about Gods? Gods ante Magical powers vunna superhumans ante correct aa?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:10 pm:       


Ashton:

That is my answer to people who have doubts about "ramayana a fact or faction" in other thread "raavanudu"



adi aa thread lo ne selavivvachu ga .. sare le .. intaki .. Nag enti .. aryan aa .. dravidian aa? mix aa?
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:08 pm:       


Cocanada:

Who is talking about gods

we are talking abt history


That is my answer to people who have doubts about "ramayana a fact or faction" in other thread "raavanudu"
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:07 pm:       


Ashton:

That doesn't mean all our mythologies are facts....




ashton bro..
science vs religion
mythologies vs facts vanti terms anni europeans coin chesinavi..
till early 20th century we(indians) never differentiated education from religion...

alage ramayan and mahabharath are not mythologies..:D

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:05 pm:       


Ashton:

That doesn't mean all our mythologies are facts....James Cameron Avatar movie ni "Lord Vishnu" Avatar ni choosi characters ni animate chesadu ani cheppadu...Similarly normal human beings ni manaki books,idols ga represent chesi choopiste valle devullu ani nammuthunnam...... Yes they are gods...that doesn't mean they have magical powers.....Gods are the one's who pave the way to spiritual karma..


Who is talking about gods

we are talking abt history
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:03 pm:       


Ashton:

Dude...neeku teliyakapothe telusuko...anthe gani pseudo-intellectual la behave cheyyaku...not good for you....Take care..



denemma jeevitam .. nenu intellectual kadu .. pseudo ki saripoye antha knowledge kooda ledu .. :D

mahabharata nunchi mars daka posts vestaav .. nannu intellectual ani insult cheyyaku babayya !

anna .. kopam jeyyaku .. nijam ga ne naaku teliyadu kabatti adugutunna .. Gods ni evaru srustincharu .. 99% of the world vaallani enduku nammutaru .. nee laa avvalante eti seyyali .. 2 mukkallo ettu .. if pasible
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 05:00 pm:       


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Dude...neeku teliyakapothe telusuko...anthe gani pseudo-intellectual la behave cheyyaku...not good for you....Take care..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:57 pm:       


Ashton:

That doesn't mean all our mythologies are facts....James Cameron Avatar movie ni "Lord Vishnu" Avatar ni choosi characters ni animate chesadu ani cheppadu...Similarly normal human beings ni manaki books,idols ga represent chesi choopiste valle devullu ani nammuthunnam...... Yes they are gods...that doesn't mean they have magical powers.....Gods are the one's who pave the way to spiritual karma..



tammud .. Ramayana, Mahabharata ni epics antamu manamu .. mythologies kaadu .. FYI ..

sare kaani .. paina post lo first line chadivithe .. konni mythologies fiction ane ardam vachettu ga cheppav .. last line ki vachetappatiki .. Gods exist but are normal being antunnav .. ante ippudu aa epics jariginatta leda? clear ga 2 mukkaallo seppu ! flzz
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:54 pm:       

coke,
if we are the aborigines and the original vedic society...then does that mean Indo_aryans are the first known race in desham.
From Ashton's post , it looks like Aryans were one of the last people to come to India.
My assumption is the wiki definition of Vedic Society - set during the time of Indo-Aryans
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:52 pm:       


Cocanada:

We are the original vedic society and we still are.


That doesn't mean all our mythologies are facts....James Cameron Avatar movie ni "Lord Vishnu" Avatar ni choosi characters ni animate chesadu ani cheppadu...Similarly normal human beings ni manaki books,idols ga represent chesi choopiste valle devullu ani nammuthunnam...... Yes they are gods...that doesn't mean they have magical powers.....Gods are the one's who pave the way to spiritual karma..
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:52 pm:       


Sachin:



Nijangaa teleedu basu. Sharp features ante enti? Edo word bagundani kalipesaara? Ledante daniki emayina ardham undaa?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:47 pm:       


Vijay77:

Sharp features ante enti???



u silipi
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:46 pm:       


Humpty_dumpty:

aborgines - being the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region


Yes. That is who we are. We have the best climate, resources in the world.

We can live in conjunction with nature unlike Europeans.

We are the original vedic society and we still are.
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:46 pm:       


Ashton:

sharp features



Sharp features ante enti???
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:45 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:


nenu adhe aduguthunna kamalai, what was the basis for migration ani, coke slaves ga thecharu antunaadu, slave anedhi mari negative connotation ee kadha, usually you win slaves, nobody will wantedly become a slave right?



too routine ga undi .. indaka post lo nenu Bushu ki explain cheyyadaniki try chesa .. today .. most people want to migrate to America/West .. due to its comforts ..

back in the day .. the whole world was almost on a level when it came to comforts .. but what changed from country to country .. land to land ? religion and culture, way of life are the only things that come to my mind .. so why can that not be a valid reason for people to migrate?

Mental_sachinodu:

im a proponent of migration theory, in case of the indo-asian context. but africans came to india, through sea route to south india anedhaniki actual proof ledhu, it is more of a speculation.



excellent .. nenu kooda migrations chala jarigayi ani nammutanu .. even from the times of panacea .. african migrations lived on a land adjoint to India and later moved into the present peninsula when their lands submerged anedi nijam ayyundachu emo???

Mental_sachinodu:

keralites have the oldest of ancient indian traditions, even in vedic traditions which can usually mean vedic indians came to south india, via the sea route first, much like the portugese and all, but sea travel was not so developed in the ages we are talking about. (if at all they came from outside).



naaku 2 distinct chances kanipistunnayi .. those people migrated from north india as claimed and were probably the first migrators to go inland from Indus ..

2) the first batch of Africans that arrived embraced vedic culture and today their contemporaries of the Indus valley cannot be traced could be due to possible extinction of the "originally migrated" Indus vedic group? picha confusing ga undi kada ..
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:43 pm:       

asalu ee racial differences anevi modern european creation...before religions of book came into existence vedic civilization was spread all over the world...people were worshiping sun, moon and other vedic gods and goddesses...you can find such civilizations in north& south americas, greeks,romans &other pagans in europe and middle east...people used to get vedic knowledge and technology from sun and other vedic gods
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:43 pm:       


Ashton:


Good post

So...who are the ACTUAL INHABITANTS. That is the main point of contention
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:43 pm:       

coke
aborgines - being the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:43 pm:       


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dravidians are rahul dravid muttatalu...aryans are arya-2 muttathalu




ayithe dravidians zindabadddddddddddddddd
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:42 pm:       


Cocanada:

very good. ayite inkenti. reservations, caste system ethedhaam




Ok permisssion granted..etheyyi
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:41 pm:       


Cocanada:

South is full of africans migrated from Africa





Dravidians
The Dravidians came from the Mediterranean side and are supposed to be one of the earliest visitors to India. They are credited with the establishment of the Indus Valley Civilization. They had a Wheatish complexion and were characterized by sharp facial features. With time, they went to the south of the country and settled there permanently.



Mongoloids
The Mongoloids settled in the north eastern parts of the country in high mountain ranges. They can be attributed to have paved the way for the present day population at places like Sikkim, Ladakh, Assam, Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, and Tripura. The Mongoloids were characterized by a yellowish complexion, pale skin, small oblique eyes, blunt facial features, high cheekbones, medium height and thin hair.




Negrito
Believed to have come from Africa, the Negritos were also one of the earliest settlers in India. They basically didnât barge into the deeper areas of the country but instead stayed at the islands of Andaman, Nicobar and some parts of southern India. They survived in that original habitat and can still be found living a rustic lifestyle.




Nordic Aryans
The Aryans were apparently the last ones to come to India. They acquired majority of the northern parts of the country after driving away the Dravidians to the south. They were characterized by their stout appearance and white skin. They can be attributed to the majority of the population of India, in the northern and central regions.



Proto - Australoids or Austrics
The Proto Australoids were credited to have laid the actual foundation for the civilization of India. They came to the country right after the Negritos. They were characterized by their brown skin, long heads, thick black hair, low foreheads, prominent eye ridges, flat noses, thick jaws, etc. They settled in some central and the entire eastern part of the country.




Western Brachycephals
The Western Brachycephals include ethnic groups like Alpinoids, Dinarics, Armenoids, Parsis and Kodavas. The people were characterized by features like broad foreheads, brown skin, sharp features, etc. They occupied the western side of the country and can be called the foundation for the present day people in the states of Gujarat, Maharashtra, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu.

source: http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/ethnic-origin-of-peop le-of-india-965.html
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:40 pm:       


Sachin:

ayithe endi antha manushule kada


very good. ayite inkenti. reservations, caste system ethedhaam
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:40 pm:       


Sachin:

asalu ee aryans dravidians evarehe..evaranna ardham ayettu seppandi....
ayinaa aaa bongu ayithe endi antha manushule kada


dravidians are rahul dravid muttatalu...aryans are arya-2 muttathalu
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:39 pm:       


Bunty717:

mana color chusi decide chesevaa


tamil actor pasupati telusaa. vaadiki africans ki teda enti. emi ledu looks wise.
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:39 pm:       

asalu ee aryans dravidians evarehe..evaranna ardham ayettu seppandi....
ayinaa aaa bongu ayithe endi antha manushule kada
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:39 pm:       


Humpty_dumpty:

vedic society was formed by aborgines of India anutnaava?


Vedas are indian and so is vedic society.

aborginies ante?
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:38 pm:       


Cocanada:

South is full of africans migrated from Africa




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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:37 pm:       

coke
nee point ento ardham clarity ravatledhu
dravidians are african settlers antunaava?
vedic society was formed by aborgines of India anutnaava?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:36 pm:       


Bushu:

very creative.



creative emundi annai .. world lo entho mandi .. memu Americans ga puttalede ani badhapadevaallani choosa ee era lo .. chance dorikithe immigrate aipotunna vaallani kotlalo choostunnaam .. alantappudu .. why could not it be applied to India? after all it was the cynosure of the world for atleast 3000 continous years till 1000 AD.

emantaru? :-)
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:36 pm:       

aa madhya.. okka article vacchindi where one person's DNA trace, from some rural tamilnadu, was traced back to africa. so maybe there was some migration. since all the continents etc., are believed to have formed due to glacier activity during ice age.. there is a good possibility that all land was one before such activity and the glaciers moved earth plates and different continents were formed.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:32 pm:       


Ashton:

Germany,Russia
,etc.




germans and russians / europeans are primariy north chinese.
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:32 pm:       


Ashton:

yeah south is full of dravidians....North is full of Aryans emigrated from Germany,Russia,etc.


South is full of africans migrated from Africa
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:31 pm:       


Kamal:

why do people always have to be fought, captured, enslaved? may be .. people thought it is a pleasure to serve the local Indians of that time .. what could be their motive? better cultural life??? may be .. not always was money and power the sole motives of humans .. i believe!




nenu adhe aduguthunna kamalai, what was the basis for migration ani, coke slaves ga thecharu antunaadu, slave anedhi mari negative connotation ee kadha, usually you win slaves, nobody will wantedly become a slave right?

im a proponent of migration theory, in case of the indo-asian context. but africans came to india, through sea route to south india anedhaniki actual proof ledhu, it is more of a speculation.

keralites have the oldest of ancient indian traditions, even in vedic traditions which can usually mean vedic indians came to south india, via the sea route first, much like the portugese and all, but sea travel was not so developed in the ages we are talking about. (if at all they came from outside).
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:31 pm:       


Cocanada:

INdia was a vedic society. We are not from Europe or China.




yeah south is full of dravidians....North is full of Aryans emigrated from Germany,Russia,etc.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:30 pm:       


Bushu:

:D very creative.


Not as creative as aryans who have no home invading african looking indians
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:29 pm:       


Kamal:

people thought it is a pleasure to serve the local Indians of that time




:D very creative.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:28 pm:       


Humpty_dumpty:

One might find foundations in some parts of Europe but high chance it all took place in India anukuntunna


adey mari nenu kuda cheppedhi. INdia was a vedic society. We are not from Europe or China.

People who look african may be from Africa
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:27 pm:       

MS bro,
yes, you are right, Every time I try to understand, I hit a dead end with the genetic differences you mentioned
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:26 pm:       


Cocanada:

Sachin maatram special gaa boast eskuni okkade Cambodia ninchi ochi Guntur lo settle ayaadu



nuvvu K muyyyy..by birth guntur ikkada
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:25 pm:       

coke


1. If Aryans are from Europe, why is there no trace of vedic society in any other country except india
---->From wiki
"The Vedic Period (or Vedic Age) is the period during which the Vedas, the oldest sacred texts of the Indo-Aryans, were being composed. Scholars place the Vedic period in the second and first millennia BCE continuing up to the 6th century BCE based on literary evidence."

Hypothetically, Indo-Aryans sounds like a flux of native Indians and Aryan settlers. If you view vedas as something like culture of of the land, isn't it possible it should be confined to this area only. One might find foundations in some parts of Europe but high chance it all took place in India anukuntunna

2. How feasible is it to invade India with large population of natives and impose vedic culture and dominate them
--->I dont think it was done over night or in 1000 nights. It could have been done on 1000s of years, the vedic society growing in numbers, converting others ( eliminating too)

3. Asalu invade chesaru ani namminaa, what is their home country? akkada emanna remains unnaya Vedic culture vi?

--Same opinion as answer one.

{Very Strong Bold Font} ---- Disclaimer : I do not have in depth knowledge about any of these. I am only trying to rationale with human behavior - which I don't think has really changed- same hunger, fight for survival, consolidation.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:24 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:


so if this is not a migration, then it is bringing slaves from outside, which means indians have had to fight for those slaves, like the european colonies waged wars and sent the slaves to america.



why do people always have to be fought, captured, enslaved? may be .. people thought it is a pleasure to serve the local Indians of that time .. what could be their motive? better cultural life??? may be .. not always was money and power the sole motives of humans .. i believe!
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:23 pm:       

Sachin maatram special gaa boast eskuni okkade Cambodia ninchi ochi Guntur lo settle ayaadu

for sure
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:18 pm:       

babu evarnna coke vaala manger tho sepppi aayanaki konchem aaapice lo pani iyyamanandi
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:18 pm:       


Humpty_dumpty:

MS bro,
AFAIR NGC series lo they mentioned it was drought and famine which triggered the movement




idhi nenu kooda vinnanu bro, but it was not convincing. souther africa rarely had problems with famine(may be there were). north african had these issues more, and we know that africans migrated over land to middle eastern and european continents.

if people are use genetic theories, they will fail to prove aryan invation theory, as the genetic differences between two people from two african tribes are more different, than the genetic makeup of european and korean.
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:14 pm:       


Cocanada:

may be they were brought in as slaves. Do u think african slaves in america sent back money to their homes ?




so if this is not a migration, then it is bringing slaves from outside, which means indians have had to fight for those slaves, like the european colonies waged wars and sent the slaves to america.
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:12 pm:       

anthaa OK kaani, asalu chinks ki aa mongoloid features etlaa ochinayo artham kaadhu. how could a chimpanzee or any of those family animals ever evolve into those features.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:11 pm:       


Humpty_dumpty:

yes, but what does that prove?


It is easier to believe because

1. If Aryans are from Europe, why is there no trace of vedic society in any other country except india

2. How feasible is it to invade India with large population of natives and impose vedic culture and dominate them

3. Asalu invade chesaru ani namminaa, what is their home country? akkada emanna remains unnaya Vedic culture vi?
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:08 pm:       


Cocanada:

may be they were brought in as slaves. Do u think african slaves in america sent back money to their homes ?




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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:08 pm:       

Natural weather calamities is the main reason for African migration...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:05 pm:       


Uppu:

Bottom line enti Sudurulu anta africans , migata vallu antha tellola. Confirm jeyyi, eesari nallodu kanapadite nee istory cheppi hey dog anu kontam


Tellollu kaadu. Actual indians. Vedic society is not indian. it is european anukokundaa ..reverse lo alochiste better
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:03 pm:       

coke
yes, but what does that prove?
India as we know today might have been an uninhabited stretch of land
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:02 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

unless india of that era had great jobs that Africans could work for some money and send back home :D


may be they were brought in as slaves. Do u think african slaves in america sent back money to their homes ?
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:02 pm:       


Cocanada:



kikk .. Britishodi cheta cheppisthe .. easy ga nammestaru janalu .. basic ga skin color important ammaaa .. baaga tella gaa undaali ..
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:01 pm:       

MS bro,
AFAIR NGC series lo they mentioned it was drought and famine which triggered the movement
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:00 pm:       


Cocanada:

India being a prosperous land, Africa ninchi chala mandi slaves ochevaaru. Mostly to the southern region.

(Same as Africans in US)

Being immigrants and slaves, they were made to do physical labour. Obviously they are foreigners and they did not have a say in administration.

This sounds more logical to me


Bottom line enti Sudurulu anta africans , migata vallu antha tellola. Confirm jeyyi, eesari nallodu kanapadite nee istory cheppi hey dog anu kontam
âGenerations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this walked the earth in flesh and blood.â
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:00 pm:       


Humpty_dumpty:

which is regarded as the cradle of mankind started emigrating long before southern tip of India
was shaped




it is possible that they migrated to india. right?
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:59 pm:       

well based on assumptions ayithe, why would africans migrate? they are probably the most naturally blessed lands(ofcourse deserts avi unna kaani). unless india of that era had great jobs that Africans could work for some money and send back home :D

migration has always been there, no one can deny that, we see migration even today, but what was the dynamic anedhi, ippudu unna knowledge tho hevvar seppaler, oorike guddal simpuko makandi..
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:58 pm:       


Ishan:

by whom?


inkevaru
locals
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:56 pm:       


Cocanada:

they were made to do physical labour.


by whom?
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:54 pm:       

What is the time period for your theory?
Have you seen NGC's journey of man series ? - As per their theory, which is more of DNA based, people from Africa which is regarded as the cradle of mankind started emigrating long before southern tip of India was shaped and went up north to South Eastern Europe, Russia, Polar region and finally to America.

Your theory is good, if you apply to last 1000 years or so anukuntunna.
Evidences of civilization in India dates way more than that AFAIK.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:50 pm:       

Max Muller gaadi raaste sadivaaru. Nenu raaste chadavaledu.....chasssssss
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:45 pm:       

Calling Kamal
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Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 - 03:43 pm:       

India being a prosperous land, Africa ninchi chala mandi slaves ochevaaru. Mostly to the southern region.

(Same as Africans in US)

Being immigrants and slaves, they were made to do physical labour. Obviously they are foreigners and they did not have a say in administration.

This sounds more logical to me
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