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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:54 am:       


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frankly .. for ppl who want to unite India on more than caste lines .. this issue is a tough choice .. kani .. India MUST no doubt look beyond anything these "rules"
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:43 am:       


Kamal:

no .. my meaning is .. if u choose ur partner and ur parents/family do not like it .. they have every right to ask u to get out of sight and not talk .. dont they? afterall .. its everybody's freedom ..




Agree but that's an individual's right...making a law out of such sentiment is no answer for this BS....naveen jindal congress MP wants a law to make same ghotra marriages unlawful
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:41 am:       


Kamal:

agree .. social engineering isnt that easy !




the basic structure of marriage is to prevent inbreeding to avoid pooling of recessive genes...all this fuss about going back seven-generations was to avoid prevalence of diseases at least ones that are visible...that's the reason we have moral boundaries(incest) to prevent such things....
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:37 am:       


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enduku veli veyyali cheppu...we are living in a civilized society..manam taliban kaadhu...mostly these honor killings are caste politics and dominance tactics....youth are being brain washed and made to commit such crimes...those khap leaders pass orders and family members kill their sons and daughters and end up in jail for the rest of their life



no .. my meaning is .. if u choose ur partner and ur parents/family do not like it .. they have every right to ask u to get out of sight and not talk .. dont they? afterall .. its everybody's freedom .. daniki taliban tho sambandam ledu .. its a non-violent choice .. kaani killings, lashes etc are barbarous ..
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:35 am:       


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the rule of not marrying within a gothra was correct in olden times but not these days when people are having marriage relationships from far off places.... and who are these KHAP panchayat people to decide on such maaters...they have no law degree, medical degree and most of these are caste panchayats whose sole purpose is tomaintain caste dominance



agree .. social engineering isnt that easy !
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:34 am:       


Kamal:

veli vesukovachu (ostracizing)




enduku veli veyyali cheppu...we are living in a civilized society..manam taliban kaadhu...mostly these honor killings are caste politics and dominance tactics....youth are being brain washed and made to commit such crimes...those khap leaders pass orders and family members kill their sons and daughters and end up in jail for the rest of their life
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:31 am:       


Ipc302:

why is marrying first/second cousins banned in the west and how are people who violate this handled? not justifying khaps or honor killings by any standards ..




you are totally getting this wrong....this practice is considered wrong bcoz of the genetic anomalies which will be more prevalent...in AP sister's brother can marry sister's daughter but it's considered wrong in many northern states and also this practice if continued for a long time will result in genetic disorders in babies....the rule of not marrying within a gothra was correct in olden times but not these days when people are having marriage relationships from far off places.... and who are these KHAP panchayat people to decide on such maaters...they have no law degree, medical degree and most of these are caste panchayats whose sole purpose is tomaintain caste dominance
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:30 am:       


Ipc302:

especially North India lo chaala ekkuva...last month delhi lo 4-5 murders jarigayi honor killings peru tho....inka haryana lo KHAP panchayats ayithe law change cheyyamantunnaru regarding who should marry who



Law maarchali .. pro-honor killings ga kaadu .. anti-khaps gaa .. panchayat pettukovachu .. veli vesukovachu (ostracizing) .. anthe kaani .. murder or other physical violence has no place .. those people should get it fast !
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:26 am:       

especially North India lo chaala ekkuva...last month delhi lo 4-5 murders jarigayi honor killings peru tho....inka haryana lo KHAP panchayats ayithe law change cheyyamantunnaru regarding who should marry who
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:25 am:       

why is marrying first/second cousins banned in the west and how are people who violate this handled? not justifying khaps or honor killings by any standards ..

also how are "class" differences prevalent and their role on the society .. dont tell me this is a class-less society !

innocent kochening flzz !
In India, it is said, in sports there is too much politics, whereas unfortunately in politics there is very little sportsmanship. - LK Advani
 

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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 11:20 am:       

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/world/asia/10honor.html?sr c=me&ref=general
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